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Why is it that only the villainous factions ever use mobile armors?

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Why is it that only the villainous factions ever use mobile armors? Zeon, The Titans, Crossbone Vanguard and Zanscare deploy MA all the time to support ships and MS but we never see the Federation, AEUG, or League Militaire do this. Yes, I'm aware of transforming MS, but at the end of the day they're MS first and MA second.
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>>15154024
Because they're almost always big and menacing-looking, like videogame bosses.
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Because the bad guys NEED mobile armors to stay relevant in the fight where the Feddies can just deploy a second battalion to the same operation if need be

Also, and this is a BIG thing, they have the Gundam. Bad guys dont have and cant have the Gundam, so they need something just as killy, which means mobile armors. Which unfortunately dont beat the Gundam.

Except when we're talking about captured Gundam vs Gundam, which you'll notice results in a lot less mobile armors running around.
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>>15154056
In Gundam X the New United Nations Earth deployed used mobile armors which were more like fighters to great effect.
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>>15154024
Dendrobium, Deep Striker, arguably also GN Arms and METEoR.
Oh, and Mwu's fighter from SEED.
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>>15154024
>dendrobium

Also, only the bad guys care about new technology, the good guys stifle progress because MUH PACIFISM
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>>15154072
>>15154081
Dendrobium is debatable, some would say its an oversized booster pack for a Gundam, some could argue its an MA with a Gundam for an escape pod. Call it an exception to the rule.

Deep Striker is an oversized Gundam with way too many boosters and guns glued to it rather than an actual Mobile Armor.

Cant really say anything about the others, I only really know UC
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>>15154056
>Bad guys dont have and cant have the Gundam,
GP02, Epyon, Psyco, Psyco Mk II, Duel, Buster, Blitz, Ashtaron, Virsago, Devil, Master, Throne Ein, Zwei, Drei, and Arche, Reborns, Legillis, Gusion (Brewer), Vidar, and I'm probably forgetting several like John Bull and Kimaris.
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>>15154101
Deep Striker is also fucking hideous.
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>>15154024
>The Titans, Crossbone Vanguard and Zanscare deploy MA all the time to support ships and MS
No they don't. The Titans only ever deployed transforming models that you say don't count. Crossbone Vanguard's only MA was the Rafflesia, which was a secret weapon that most of the CV didn't even know about. Zanscare deployed just a handful of mobile armors, far fewer than you claim. A Doggorla in space and on Earth, a Recarl on earth that was more like a high speed strike ship than a mobile armor, and a Birknau that blew up just as it left its hangar.

The only one that might fit that claim is the Earth Alliance from CE.
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>>15154024
Does Moebius Zero count? The Meteor Packs and GN Arms can count too, but then they're in the same situation as the Dendrobium in arguing if they really are more than just Gundam booster packs.
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>>15154130
The Agrissa and Alvatore were both oversized add-ons and they're both canonically considered MA's.
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>>15154113

You shut your whore mouth.
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>>15154130
For the "Mobile Armor Thing That Boosts Gundams" thing you got the Dendrobium, the G-Falcon, the METEOR, and the GN Arms.
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>>15154140
>DUDE PARTS STICKING OUT EVERYWHERE LMAO
Are you by chance a fan of the transformers film series?
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>>15154024
Because they're giant money sinks that usually have a niche role or unique weapon system that hampers mass production or wide deployment.

The protagonist factions typically prefer machines that are more variable in role.
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>>15154165
The protagonists factions field one-man army type weapons that are only feasible because of plot power and never use combined arms tactics.
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>>15154108
>except when we're talking about captured Gundam vs Gundam

Also Psycho Gundam is basically a Gundam shaped MA anyway

Again, mostly familiar with UC
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>>15154041
I suspect it is more a knight/samurai vs dragon/demon/oni thing. Hard to look heroic if you are bigger than your opponent.
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>>15154199
Itd be hard from a PR standpoint to justify them if you think about it

>and why is our government pouring billions into a giant death robot piloted by a tortured psychic teenager?
>uuuuh

meanwhile in Zeon
>Its gonna kill ALL the feddies!
>Take my money! Sheeg Sheon!
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>>15154024
Mwu used one throughout almost the entirety of SEED.
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>>15154070
I always forget those exist, possibly because the Balients were great.
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>>15154222
No, it was only the first quarter of the show. They descended to earth and he switched over to a fighter for the second quarter of the show, then to the Strike for the last half.
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>>15154199
Providence went against 2 meteor units though
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>>15154304
I don't remember Athrun's METEOR fighting against Rau's Providence.
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Because it's a big scary thing for the hero to struggle and triumph over.

Hero units are usually your basic saber and rifle and maybe another tiny gimmick or two while the enemies have the flashy scary gimmicks for the hero to have to figure out to defeat.

Or at least it used to be. Lately everyone has gimmicks because they need to impress the model kit fans with newer and flashier doodads.
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>>15154304

Providence uses god/divinity iconigraphy, a grayish-purple color scheme and is piloted by a villain. This pushes the conflict towards knight/samurai vs false god.

>>15154358
The gimmicks are also there to have the new hero unit standout from the rest.
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>>15154070
The Balient was just a flying MS.
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>>15154372
>Balient
Dumbass.
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/NRMA-006_Gadeel
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>>15154379
>http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/NRMA-006_Gadeel
hang on since when are atmospheric fighters mobile armors
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>>15154400
Since it was called a Mobile Armor.
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>>15154404
>hang on since when are atmospheric fighters mobile armors
they just call anything they want anything they want now dont they
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>>15154372
He meant the Gadeel, not the Balient. Witz had a lot of trouble fighting them off in the Airmaster, and he got his Gundam beat up pretty badly.
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Why would the Feds or AEUG need a Mobile Armor, they're not even good.
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>>15154413
Where have you been for the last thirty years.
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>>15154175
>captured Gundam vs Gundam
Not only were both Psyco Gundams built by the bad guys, the hero actually started out with a stolen Gundam MkII built by the bad guys so you're doubly wrong here.
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The good guys get add-on MA rather than standalone piloted ones. The G-Fighter, G-Defenser, Mega Rider, G-Falcon, GN Arms, IBO's Booster, plus unpiloted ones like Dendrobium, Meteors, the Assault Pack.

There's also a few self-transporting add-ons like the Mega Launcher or Dynames' sniper thing.

I can't think of any examples of good-guys MA, so I'm guessing that Bandai's rule is that MA must still show the good-guy MS for Gunpla sales purposes?
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I remember this thing from G Reco, but I forgot if they used it much.
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>>15157025
It was used during the first half of the show but they didn't bring it up into space, I guess it wasn't meant for space use.
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>>15154140
>>15154144
I like its escorts much more.
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