https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-01-02/shuuichi-ikeda-yelled-at-kouichi-yamadera-while-recording-mobile-suit-gundam-char-counterattack/.110507
> When he joined the cast of the 1988 film, Yamadera was a newcomer who had little experience with or understanding of the Gundam franchise. He had the black-and-white moral view that "For robot anime, there are bad guys, and good guys fight them." Between recording sessions, Yamadera said to Ikeda, "Char is a bad guy, and Amuro is a good person, isn't he?"
> That assertion did not go over well with the voice of Char. Ikeda replied, "You idiot! Gundam isn't like that!!" He added, "So you came here not understanding anything. Idiot." At that time, the naive Yamadera apparently had no appreciation for the nuances of Gundam's characterization and moral messages. Ikeda tried to give him a wake-up call.
BASED IKEDA!
>>15077668
This probably would have meant a lot more if Char wasn't trying to drop a meteor on earth and kill everybody
Who was in the wrong here?
>>15077736
Ikeda. Putting aside that there's not really much nuance to Char in Char's Counterattack, and that he's trying to kill billions of people to enact a master plan, yelling at someone simply isn't a good way to inform them of anything, since yelling at them will almost certainly put them in a defensive mood and actively hinder the process of teaching them. He'd have done better to explain it calmly since Yamadera would be more likely to take his words on board if he had.
And to do it with a different film, but that part can't really be helped.
>Ikeda is secretly planning a colony drop on earth.
Yamadera did the stupid thing of assuming standard black and white robot anime, despite Gundam(79) and Zeta(85) and ZZ(86) all airing before said casting and all painting a much more complex picture.
>>15077791
Gihren and Scirocco were pretty starkly black characters. I haven't seen ZZ to comment t on it's villains. Regardless, Tomino tends to make his villain faction complex by filling them with more morally grey characters like Dozle and Reccoa, but then cap those factions with a starkly evil character so that the viewer feels less conflict about them being the designated villain or coming to the climax when they must lose or something.
>>15077811
>it's villains
it is villains
You mean "its"
>>15077813
Autocorrect, but yes.
>>15077811
Pretty much. The thing about Gundam, at least initially was that the soliders of the enemy side were sympathetic and had their own reasons for fighting beyond being faceless monsters who wanted to kill humanity because reasons like most old SR shows.
Ghiren however, was an evil bastard directly compared to Hitler in show and it never ever tried to paint him as sympathetic or right in any way.
>>15077820
That seems to be the formula for gundam.
>Show both sides of the conflict on a particular front
>brief showings of what the higher ups are doing
>higher ups begin power play
>main cast ponders what they can do in accordance to new development or feasability of going against it.