Well, this show wasn't exactly hot trash, but I couldn't

Yeah, it does have it problems but it wasn't as bad as people led me to believe.
I also liked the music

>>14922045

The problem with Delta is that, despite everything starting strong, the plot slowly turns into poorly written fanfiction tier trash.

I don't use that word lightly, by the way. The Windemeren race seriously feels likr someones OC donutsteel insert race.

They are super badass at everything but have tragic 'flaws' that never impact them except for forced drama where everyone else has to immediately drop what they are doing and fawn over how tragic this is (lets all get super sad about how Herman, a guy I have met all of twice and how is constantly trying to kill me and my friends, is dying of old age after nearly killing me less than a minute before. How TRAGIC.).

Lets not forget, after all, that the Windemerens are the official "chosen by the Protoculture to inherit the galaxy" species. Which we originally thought was just nationalist propaganda, but NOPE! Its legit. The massive galactic mind control array, built by the protoculture, requires Runes to operate. And they found it that way, no modification needed. Unless we are lead to believe that the Protoculture had runes too (which seems unlikely, since absolutely none of their other creations have an equivalent organ) literally no one who is not a male windemeren could operation the mind control weapon. It was expressly built for them and them alone.

But hey, thats all ancient history, right? Only the macguffain is windemere focused, right?

Nope! Literally the entire plot can be summed up by only describing the actions of windemeren characters. Windemere launches a war of expansion using an ancient mind control weapons, succeeds greatly, suffers an internal division about how to use that mind control weapon, breaks free of its effects temporarily due to the actions of a windemeren girl, and then the windemeren military kills the traitor and they all go home for the day.

>>14922617

This means that, in 26 episodes, the protagonists never did jack fucking shit. They never successfully slow the windemeren advance, force Roid to change his plans, launch successful counter offensives... nada. Hayate's only contribution tot he plot that mattered was giving Freya FEELS, so that SHE (a windemeren character) could enable the rest of the windemeren characters to go off and solve the plot by killing Roid while the rest of delta sat around and watched them do it.

No one has any agency in this. Every moment that Walkure and Delta and the various Xaos staff members were onscreen was a waste of our time, because NONE OF THEM AND NOTHING THEY EVER DID mattered.

And, of course, the war itself cannot be resolved onscreen because the only option left is for Windemere to eat shit in the face of a NUNS offensive, now that they have been deprived of their mind control weapon and the NUNS has jammers against the Song of the Wind and they lost their best pilot Keith. But that would require us to see Windemere lose fights, so lets just skip that shall we?

>this wind
Would have been nice if they didn't say this over and over again every episode.

I won't get into the plot since it has been discussed already in the thread, I'll just say that the characters were weak. There were far too many of them to build on character development. 5 people in delta squadron, 5 singers, zentraedi captain and his bridge crew, windermere squadron of 6? Pilots, a king, a prince, a chancellor, and countless other secondary and tertiary characters.

>>14922045
Mirage was one of the very few things that needed to be appreciated and developed with care to make delta a success. Kawamori did a complete disaster.
A real antagonist actually would help too, and good songs not purely memetic ones.
macross is ded

>>14922045
>I couldn't help but feel like it was an inferior knockoff of Frontier.
Me too.

Fuck Macross Frontier
Fuck Macross Delta
Fuck moeshit
Fuck idolshit
SDF Macross is still the best anime of all time

>>14922045
Delta was absolute fucking garbage and you know it
Frontier was so much better in every single aspect