Man, I can't believe that there are people that actually

>>14868355
you can also do the same thing with recent shows isn't that wonder

>>14868355
>Man, I can't believe that there are people that actually watch pre-2000s mecha.

Some of us were born in the great 20th whippersnapper.

HURR DURR, MUH RESOLUTION

lol todays cgi anime is garbage when it comes to detail.

Compare something like 0083 to Seed.

0083 looks superior in every fucking way

>>14868355
Getter Robo Armageddon more than likely looks better than your favorite show and it was made in the late 90s with the best looking episodes being the first 3 made in 97. There's your (you).

Has anything worthwhile been released post-2000?

>>14868355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h_rkhnjZzc
Go ahead and tell me that this opening doesn't look better than what we get today.

>>14868355

>all pre-2000s mecha look and sound like they were made in the 1970s

Are you high, m8?

>>14868482

0083 was an ova financed in an era where loads of cash were floating around, SEED a tv series.

>>14868490
>Has anything worthwhile been released post-2000?

Gundam 00

>>14868500
Who cares? He said "pre-2000 mecha". It's up to him to be more specific.

>>14868494
That's why people don't even need to try to deflect this lazy bait, the guy lobbed this underhand. You don't gotta defend the 70s even, just point to high budget 90s animation alone and his argument rendered invalid. As wrong as he is about actual older stuff his phrasing it as EVERYTHING before the 00s makes it easy to refute his claim.

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>>14868355
what is with the recent 0079 troll threads on /m/?

First it was ZZ, then Zeta and now it's 0079. It's just someone posting "It's BAD" with no reasoning and never responds.

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I think pre-2000s mecha can be good if they just clean it up and remove the instagram like filter included in them.

For example, I took a screencap of Jegan then added the filter, it looks just like the old mecha anime, so dirty looking.

>>14868553
its what heppen when a fanbase becomes starved. they become shitposter

>>14868490
Shin Mazinger

>>14868553
The shitposters are getting braver. /m/ is one of the easiest boards to bait and the lack of quality shows recently has just exacerbated the problem exponentially.

>>14868355
>Not following the plot of a show or movie through the memes themselves.

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>Millenials dislike older anime visuals

what a shocker

>>14868678
Doesn't surprise me. That faggot recorded himself watching Boku no Pico while pretending he didn't like it.

>>14868678

1990 here so I guess I count as a "Millenial" or are you lumping Gen Z people in with us since I find that incredibly annoying.

I love watching older anime and don't mind if the series is from the 60s, 70s, etc. So long as the story is good and gripping. Not to mention interesting.

I don't really like the same face, post-digital lacking in detail that a lot of modern anime have including mecha. In older shows you could actually tell which artists distinct style was used but now it's almost impossible to do so considering animators have gotten lazier.

>>14868678
>he redpilled himself after his own homeland destroy itself

i can't hate him again because of this

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>>14868355
>>>/a/

Here's the truth:
designs are what matters the most, because a well-animated shitty design looks bad, and a badly-animated good design still looks cool

post-Evangelion designs look bad
pre-VOTOMS designs look bad
designs in between look good

>>14868719
Millenials are generally somewhere around ~1980 to somewhere from 1994-2000, so yes.

>>14868735
then what do we call the dumb cunts who are below 21 and have almost zero awareness of pre-2000 culture?

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>>14868553
Don't take the bait

>>14868739

Blissful idiots but they seem to love taking the Millennial label from us for some reason or maybe the media is pushing it onto them. They seem to think Millenial counts as anyone who uses anything with a screen.

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>>14868744
>>14868739

the "born mobile" generation
so "bornmobs"?

>>14868748

I just call them Phonies

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>>14868730
>pre-VOTOMS designs look bad

You wot m8?

>>14868749
oh, nice!

>>14868754

I don't call them that just because they spend copious amounts of times on their phones, but none of them are really honest with themselves, no sense of individualism, everyone is too self conscious and more importantly they don't react or feel what they really want too like with those stupid reaction videos.

>>14868739
Generation Z. Generation Y has been called Millernials since the 80s, the lumping of Y and Z together under the Millenial umbrella is mostly due to young Zs jumping on the bandwagon and Boomers and older Xers (who hold most positions of rank in media) looking at all the younger people and painting them with one brush.

I'll tell you what's really excruciating - Survivor is running a Gen X vs. Millenials show where their 'Millenials' are like 16-34 and their Gen-X is 34-50 something. And they made sure to pick Xs that are all grizzled "kids these days don't know hard work" types and all their Millenials are all shallow whiny social media types. They had one woman that was a pro gamer who literally -every other sentence- mentioned 'well when I'm playing a game' as a means to compare FPS shooters to survival politics on a tropical island.

(((You)))

>>14868739
I don't mind them when they are willing to watch things with an open mind.

Good story-telling is still good story-telling. The problem is people 21 and younger expect digital animation or digital FX in every anime or movie they watch. Try to show them the AT-ATs from Empire Strikes Back or something from the pre-digital era and they panic and run away.

>>14868774
Survivor still exists?

>>14868739
We're not all terrible, I swear.

>>14868607
Maybe it's also because there's literally no fucking mods.

>>14868836
Actually a bait thread got pruned earlier so someone did something.

>>14868836
Seriously, the ignorance of /m/ and /o/ by mods is getting fucking annoying. They know nothing about either board's topic and can't seem to recognize blatant shitposting from either snapshit, anything getter, and anything Reconguista or G-Tekketsu related.

>>14868802
Why not list some good examples of practical effects as well though? The opening shot of A New Hope is a great example of why practical effects rock.

>>14868841
>anything getter
I know a bit of the getter spat that goes down, but is it to the point getter is just 100% hated on? I never watched it, but I recall there being at least 1/2 threads at any time, and plenty of the all-mecha topics get some getter turn out. I mean shit, we somehow keep Eva safely in 1/2 threads and any time.

Plus, something tells me a decent ratio of the (insert show to hate here) threads are just believed blunt assertions.

>>14869003
Considering the /qa/ thread complaining about shitposting here turned into Getter shitposting, I don't think it's safe to have a Getter thread here. I don't know very much about it myself but I know it attracts trouble.

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>/m/ wakes up
>it's still not the 80's anymore

>>14869003
Somebody who disliked Getter Robo (for whatever reason) made a "worst fanbase on /m/" poll a while back, and got really mad when Getter wasn't in first place. He deleted the poll and immediately started tons of "why is Getter so shit" threads and shitposted about getter in every DP thread.
Now, I'm certain it didn't start there, but that's when it took a major turn for the worst. We haven't been able to have a Getter or even 80's-90's Super Robot thread (he's also went after GR and Gunbuster) ever since.

TL;DR: Somebody is really, really mad about a generally inoffensive 70's super robot series

>>14869035
Well that's a shame. Getter fans in the broad topic threads sounded fun. For fucks sake, even Muv-Luv has the sense to stick to one thread. And I hate that franchise, but a short explaination of my issues with it were met with polite "Not for you. Get out." So now I never go into their threads and we're all better off.

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>>14869016
It's not about the quality of Getter, the series has a tenured history on /m/ and is not only a pillar of Mecha but a very beloved series. The problem is this all started with a shitposter who absolutely hated everything that wasn't Toei versions, such as the various iterations of Mazinger or Getter that were actually penned by their creators or more recent OVAs. That shitposter was revealed to be a latam poster who would go to Spanish speaking forums and bitch that anything but Toei Getter is shit and not the "true" Getter.

He would shit up Nagai threads but he especially shat up Getter threads to the point his shitposting was obvious and people to him to get out and called him a spic. All shitposting would be accused of being the spic, and eventually the shitposters turned it around and called Getter lovers the spic.

It's reached the point there is just a large enough or devoted enough pool of shit posters on here that any time a Getter thread is made there's tons of spicposting. It's gotten so bad Getter threads have become more infrequent since it's a futile effort to discuss it civilly. This is why we see more random shitposting lately on Gundam, Getter isn't as readily available to be a punching bag so time to move onto other popular shows.

It didn't help that those not acquainted with Getter see the spicposting and now have a negative association with Getter.

>>14869046
Yeah, I'm just curious as to why he went after super robot stuff so hard. It's a real shame since stuff like Giant Robo and Getter are some of my favorite mecha entries and generally had pretty chill threads

>>14869057
> That shitposter was revealed to be a latam poster who would go to Spanish speaking forums and bitch that anything but Toei Getter is shit and not the "true" Getter.

That's a lie. It's an Italian guy we call Mario or The Spic. Nowadays, xpearse also does a large amount of shitposting. An old troll by the names of diebuster/busterbeam has also resurfaced and tried to force the "lazy matsumoto" meme. Between these three, /m/ has taken an extreme dive in quality.

>>14869057
Man, that's sad. And my sight on spicposting was after it was turned around on the fans it seems. Coming here for years, I have noticed getter mostly disappear. Did we get rid of a certain black knight?

>>14869081
No, he still pops up in meta and Star Trek threads unfortunately.

>spicposting was after it was turned around on the fans it seems
Yeah at this point, mario will just go into a thread and falseflag spic over and over while responding to himself. It's pretty sad.

To whatever getter fans here, I imagine you can't sink to time to watchdog a cartoon board. But should you start a new getter general thread: start a copy pasta? Granted the trolling will be there as long as some Aye-talian and randos are want to do. But a regular pasta could maybe turn the tide. Make Getter great again. Because honestly, 90% Gundam is getting old and as >>14869057 said, Getter is a recognized pillar. Even if you don't watch it.

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>>14869067
>It's an Italian guy we call Mario or The Spic
Didn't know, my mistake since I wasn't around when it happened and I'm probably the newest loud Getter fanatic.

But in spite of my time here being with the negative view of on Getterfags I still love it and have had some good conversations on here.

>>14869081
We are still here, just the number of Getterfags is small. It's a niche die-hard fanbase in the west but the spicposting will die down eventually and likely those who are regular viewers, not quite diehards, will discuss it. One of the other Getterfags is starting to accuse spicposting of being the dinosaur empire which I hope catches on to counter spicposting.

Also doesn't help that the franchise is for all intents and purposes dead right now outside of devolution. Hopefully we get a new series announced on its anniversary, though we might get one announced or SOMETHING next month since it's the 10 year anniversary for Ishikawa's death.

>>14868553
Same reason why there's weekly anti-00 threads the last 6 months on /m/. And a few years before that we had that one Zeta obsessed fag shitting on anything not Zeta in UC.

>>14868504
Hahahahahaha

>>14868678
>I use to watch a lot of anime
Sure bud, if you say so.

>>14868847
>Why not list some good examples of practical effects as well though? The opening shot of A New Hope is a great example of why practical effects rock.

You know the really good parts of the Star Wars films are the conceptual artworks. I wish that sleek universe could have been turned into films instead of the low budget (and amazing effects for the late 70s early 80s) films that we actually got. I still like Star Wars (1st film) but really it shows its age. Physical models, matte paintings and cool sound effects are not enough to bring it to 21st century standards.

I've always found it weird how people say old anime sucks then watch stuff like DBZ, and Pokemon which aren't even the best animated shows of their time.
But if you were to suggest Evangelion,GiTS or Macross plus they'd say it looks like shit.

>>14869605
>instead of the low budget
>Est $11-$13 million

There are only two movies from 1977 with higher budgets. A Bridge Too Far (est $25 million) and Close Encounters of the Third kind (est $20 million). It literally had a budget of a Bond film of the same year. It only looks small when you look at things like Apocalypse Now (est $30 million) and Superman ($50+ million) from the years after. Star Wars was pretty well financed for a scifi of the time.

>>14869679
Ded

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>>14869046
>/M/
>literally the embodiment of "muh secret club house mentality"
>the problem every thread and fan base has with people with opposite opinions.
The bait is real.

>>14868678
I guess I'm a millennial, being born in '95. It boggles my mind as well, especially since 75% of any given season these days looks like absolute drek.

>>14868355
I know this is bait but I think the 90s was where it's at for mecha, at least for shorter length productions

>>14868678
>>14872396
Unless you were born in the 70s or earlier, you're a fucking millennial.

>>14872321
I like you you ignored the whole "I hate that franchise, but a short explaination of my issues with it were met with polite "Not for you. Get out." So now I never go into their threads and we're all better off."

>The bait is real.
Why call out your own post?

>>14872321
They were talking about the blatant shitposting phases. It was Getter, now it's Z. Z got plenty of hate years ago, but there's no way the only show gaining 90% of the hate threads today is Z.

>>14872453
Literally what I was aiming at. Your problem with Muv-Luv seems to be the community and that is flawed reasoning to not enjoy something. Especially when no other fan base is exempted from the same shit.

>>14872492
You misunderstand, their thread was actually pretty cool in explaining what Muv-Luv is about and that I probably wouldn't enjoy the rest. We agreed. But it's clearly a semi popular show given they've had a general up for years, but don't have much general topic turnout. They carved their own spot.

>>14872503
Fair enough. My bad.

>>14868771
"Phone" generation is close to a third of the US population, if you're counting births from 1996 till today.

Remember the demeaning things they said about millenials 8-10 years ago? Every generation hates the next.

I prefer it honestly because the stereotypes of anime wasn't quite in place so it's a lot more watchable.

There's less weeb shit in older mech anime.

>>14868771
I don't react or feel like I want to because I'm fairly depressed. I can't even smile for a photo.

>>14868500
Still, SEED is trash, and ALMOST everything else concerning gundam, especially the pre-2000's with some exceptions, is a vast step up in over all quality.

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>Obvious bait post
>41 unique commenters
>76 total replies

>>14868491
I played the Macross games but have never seen an episode and that homo sitting in his cockpit with a guitar makes it really hard to start

>>14873218
/m/ is notoriously easy to bait, news at eleven.
Frankly though this thread's been a lot of "man, there sure have been a lot of bait threads like this one lately", and there certainly have.

>>14869119
Fuck you famalam, generals are shit and stifle free discussion

>>14868471
But cells can be put on significantly higher res than digital.

>>14874359
Eh, makes sense. Too many orderly generals and dissentious posts get hiveminded on; even outside the generals. But no generals and semi-popular franchise fanboys lose their IV drip of news. Lowest common denominator posts rise. Shitposting is harder to spot. Rome burns. We'll be reduced to talking about Gundam and Eva 24/7. Any UC thread will be a confusing mess of love and hate over Z and ZZ while they beat their dicks over the 90's. People make ill understood Karmen Rider jokes in every thread.

So basically /m/ when Unicorn and Rebuild were in production.

>>14868840
That thread was mine and it wasn't even a bait thread it was a thread asking if the Nintendo Switch was /m/

>>14874645
You weren't the only thread pruned that day then.

See ya next week mods!

>>14874645
That wasn't the bait thread. The one I am referring to is the one made by that child from /pol/ that keeps complaining that /m/ is all hard left liberals whining in a thread that women can't be good pilots and are more effective staying home and "making babies".

>>14875068
I told you in that thread, you aren't a pilot so you can't weigh in on the matter. Should have thought twice before you made that ironclad rule that I apparently want allowed to say facts because I'm not a pilot irl.

Also you accused feddies sympathizers and lovers as liberals which shows you are absolutely retarded and have no idea what you are talking about.

>>14875081
>Except I can weight in the matter because women pilots are fucking outnumbered and aren't good pilots at all.
You aren't a pilot so you can't say. You discard my facts because I'm not a pilot i can discard your opinions.

And the most liberal structure in Gundam is the colonies, while Zeon are more along the lines of fascists/Communists. The feddies are closer to being a moderate than either side. Maybe you should be alive for 2 decades before you think you know everything about politics. /pol/ isn't a good place to spend your formative years, friend.

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>>14868355

>>14873042
Have you even watched a 70s mecha show? That shit is as formulaic as artificial baby milk. There were stereotypes then as with now, just different ones.

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>>14874362
Damn straight it does. Fairly Crisp too. And this is obviously a scale down for webm.

>>14878426
Wait a second, is that the Yamato?

>>14878433
it's the Exelion I think

>>14878433
No.

>>14878440
Yes.

>>14868355
>typical /a/ opinion

Man, I can't believe that there are people that actually watch post-2000s mecha.

They all look so shity compared to old anime. The animation is cgi and the colors are over saturated. Good thing wikis are there so that I can read the summary and pretend that I've actually seen "modern" mecha.

>>14868355
b8

Man, I can't believe so many people fell for this bait.

>>14868355
>people responding to this obvious bait post

c'mon guys, I thought we were better than this

>Oh man, 100 replies! everyone really fell for it
Fuck off if you didn't bother to read into the banter about shitposting. Let the thread die.

>>14868805
Yeah I'm surprised at that too but it's clearly on its last legs if it's trying to get a big boost in ratings with this gen vs gen crap yet hardly anyone cares.

>>14868355
>>>/v/

>>14868500
>SEED a tv series
With Gundam's highest budget ever.

>>14885865
Didn't it all go to the voice actors?