Mikazuki is fucking Mary Sue he has not once lost. He never has

Fattie died, i'm sure that counts as a loss. Besides he's supposed to show that child soldiers are a bad idea because Setsuna sure as fuck didn't when he became Jesus.

>>14867996
he started to learn how to farm
so theres that i guess

>>14867996
>using Gusion for frogposting
Get out.

>>14867006

To me, Mikazuki is the personification of Tekkadan. It's going to suck trying to write this with a character limit, so stay with me on this.

For starters, Mika's brutality is meant to symbolize Tekkadan's PMC status. They're not noble or anything, not fighting for a cause, beneath all the motivations and sympathetic moments they are just hired killers. They don't care who they take down or why, just their own interests. The brutality of Mika's fighting style shows this uncaring nature to their actions. Basically, no fucks given so they can get what they want.

Mikazuki's dream of being a farmer also plays a role here. Tekkadan's ultimate goal is to leave the PMC life behind them and run legitimate businesses. However, the state of Mika's current crops shows how Tekkadan is focusing more on getting what they want now rather than things down the line. They're focusing more on taking big jobs now because that is all they can really do. This last part is also represented by how Mikazuki is throwing himself into battles because he can't do other Tekkadan work with his disabilities.

Mikazuki's protective nature is how Tekkadan looks out for it's own interest without regard to outsiders. Season one resulted in some pretty dark consequences, consequences Tekkadan don't bother to think about too much. Even Akihiko, who made a big deal out of being Human Debris last season, doesn't seem to care if more children are being enslaved and forced to fight like he was.

In short, Mikazuki's only cares about his self-interests because Tekkadan only cares about their self interests. And Mika is short because how childish Tekkadan really are. The notion that there will be no consequences for this sort of life in the long run, from ranging from retaliation to PTSD. That they can just join up with the mob and align themselves with very corrupt individuals without repercussions down the line. That they can build a better future for themselves through violence,

Continued.

>>14869127
That if they kill enough enemies, not even caring about the humans they are, they will have a happy ending. Childish crap like that.

His disabilities also represent how Biscuit's death affects Tekkadan. Biscuit was more a voice of reason, the guy who better understood politics and the like. Without him, Orga has problems doing this and relies on force. Mika lost his dominant right hand, and now has to rely on his left hand. The left hand is clumsier than the right, and this is Tekkadan's lack of precision right now. Also the pretense of protecting their innocence, since he can no longer hide Atra's bracelet.

The loss of the eye also represents how Tekkadan aren't seeing the big picture here. Again, childish notions, yadda yadda. It can also be how they're turning a blind eye to things that don't concern them or don't want to see, like consequences and the way things can fuck up. It's similar to how when Orga tries to be the boss he shuts the same eye.

I just realized I didn't mention his learning to read, but not prioritizing it should have been alongside his farm.

Short Atra's feelings for Mikazuki is our own romanticized view of the character and such a life. She's innocence, gushing about his positive qualities while ignoring the negatives. Meanwhile, the taller Kudelia recognizes the reality of the situation and wants to change it. She knows people aren't supposed to be like him, whereas Atra loves Mika the way he is.

Talking to Orga about Hush piloting a MS being how Tekkadan taking on new members.

Mika's one-sided battles reflects how relatively easy things have gone for Tekkadan. Plus his actions, while they don't seem important, do affect those around him. He told Crank that Crank was fighting children, which led to Crank attempting 1v1, the results of which took Ein down a dark path. And his kissing Kudelia set up a chain of events that saved her life. Look at how things have changed since S1.

>>14868000
>Setsuna sure as fuck didn't when he became Jesus.

With Setsuna we already have his past actions to speak for him, his story was about redemption and trying to take back your humanity after being brought up like that.
His entire journey had him learning to confront problems with another method besides violence,
and it's completed in AWotT when he decides to become the ambassador from humanity to the ELS through a peaceful method.

Mika on the other hand hasn't faced any lasting consequences that have had an effect on him, sure yo ucan say he lost biscuit and his eye/arm, but his character never reacts to that, he just keeps moving.
At this point Mika is a tool for plot progression rather than a character.

>>14869155
Who would have thought an escort mission would have had such consequences?

In the end, Mika's lack of growth thus far (in terms of character and maybe height) shows how stunted Tekkadan really is. It's only when they begin putting aside their self-serving nature and grow up. When people begin to call Tekkadan out in the show, then Mika's flaws will become more important.

If he's able to overcome them and mature, he will no longer be a manlet. If he can't, he'll die as Tekkadan is no more.

>>14869127
>>14869155
>>14869163
Why did you post all this in a pepe thread instead of the one you linked to?

Yeah I totally self identify as a limp arm half blind barely literate uneducated muscle midget whose only comprehension of conflict resolution is to maim and kill the people hurting my friends.

I very much self insert into the yakuza lifestyle to compensate for my longing for a family to call my own, even if it means bloodying my hands and damning future generations to a cycle of violence.

And boy can I relate to a life of poverty where the only kind of entertainment available to me is getting fit so I can crush tomorrow's enemy under my foot.

>>14868000
Setsuna felt remorse, that's why he became a gundam meister in the first place. Even before Setsuna got actual character development, he said that he lost faith in God because of what he saw and did.

>>14869194
A Mary sue isn't defined by how relateable they are
Mika's still a mary sue though

>never loses battles
>only kid able to get the AV surgery 3 times despite it being extremely life threatening to get once
>Also didn't flinch or cry, or react when he got it
>Is able to crush or draw with enemies with much more experience in his first sorties with Barbatos without support from any other MS
>has two girls attracted to him despite him doing nothing (this can apply to 70% of anime, but it's still pretty bad here)
>his ideoglogy is never really questioned and he's left to behave rampantly
>loses the use of his left arm and eye, except not really because the gundam gives them back to him
>atmospheric entry by himself in a setting where MS can't typically do that
>beats the main boss of S1 by magically getting better at the katana and unleashing his "true strength"

He's an OC donut steal if I ever saw one

>>14867996
Mikazuki is basically me

dumb, aggressive and with a wicked sense of humor

>>14869216
>atmospheric entry by himself in a setting where MS can't typically do that
The rx-78 did that no problem. So probably every gundam can reentry.

>>14869216
A Sue is defined by them being a foreign character that steals the main character spotlight from the actual main characters. Mikazuki is by definition incapable of being a Sue. You're thinking of badly written, which is a quality of but not a defining feature of a Sue.

>>14869222
but in IBO they made it a point earlier in the episode to say mobile suits can't typically do that.
even McGills pulled out once he realized he was being dragged in, and the others landed using the shuttle

In 0079 the gundam was a top secret weapon that was given a special protocol for this.
And even after using that it was still damaged.

The barbatos is a 300 year old weapon that makes it through without a scratch.

>>14869225
>A Sue is defined by them being a foreign character that steals the main character spotlight from the actual main characters
That's not a Sue, that's a self insert/fancit tier OC

A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character, a young or low-rank person who saves the day through unrealistic abilities. Often this character is recognized as an author insert or wish-fulfillment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue

>>14869194

Living in mexico I can relate to Mika alot.

>>14869235
>but in IBO they made it a point earlier in the episode to say mobile suits can't typically do that.
Yeah, but the 500 year old shitty MS could?
They don't know shit about the Gundam frames, so of course they didn't know that it could do it.
This is not a plot hole at all.

Mika is not a Sue. His flaws are obvious to the viewers and the other characters. The other characters in the show put up with Mika's flaws because they need him to achieve their goals.

>>14869259
To be fair those cartels ain't nothing to fuck around with.

>>14869186
Legit answer? This was originally going to be a response to that post but as I wrote I figured this thread, one for discussing Mika's character, would be a better fit. So I cut and pasted what I originally had but forgot to remove the original link. In short, I made a mistake.

>>14869425
You'd have been better off copying op to an existing thread, than bump one most the board was ignoring on purpose.

>>14868004
Hes always worked on the farm

now hes experimenting with the teraforming of mars

everyone can suck a dick, he is Cincinnatius

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>>14869155
Something interesting with his arm, he may not be able to hide the Bracelet now, but hi did remove it before executing that guy, of course it could also be an animation error

>>14869468
Wasn't Atra gonna take it to be washed or something?

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>>14867996
My dick in your ass is fucking Mary Sue he has not once lost.

>>14869492
Yeah, she washed it before they went pirate hunting because it smelled like blood. She wasn't shown returning it.

>>14867996

>Biscuit died right under his watch
>Lost use of his right eye and right arm

Pretty sure those are the losing factors to him so far.

>>14867996
>he has not once lost
The first encounter with the Teiwaz crew ended in at least a draw before they called the battle as a whole a draw

>>14869468
Foreshadowing Atra will die and Mika will never regain his innocence?

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>>14869127
>>14869155
>>14869163
Anon, from all the theories, supposition and other stuff, that are generally just stupid bullshit, that i already read about IBO, yours is the only one that have put some considerable sense into this show and I thought that was well formed by your part. Never imagined that I would open a IBO pepe thread and not regret it.

Lets just hope that the show does build up into something like that.

>>14869642

Do you think a draw is a loss?

>>14869743
It sure as hell isnt a win

I think it's interesting to have somebody that fucked in the head as a protag.

>>14869216
He did technically use a Graze as a shield and the Graze was indeed toast afterwards.

>>14869758

But Mika is boring.

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>>14869598
Mika did have the bracelet when they arrive in that guy office, so either it was an animation error or Mika did remove the bracelet also he was throwing in the floor a lot of those seed things he likes

>>14869734
Who knows but Atra is reaching Biscuit levels expected death for a lot of people

>>14869758
>>14869769
Kinda this. I see a lot of people in other places praising him for being a cold-blooded soldier, but at some point he simply became a psychopath. We have other people like Setsuna (already mentioned here), Sousuke (whose soldier behavior is mostly a gimmick for his interactions with the rest of the FMP cast) and fucking Chirico (who is a walking Nietzscheism allegory), who also are soldiers but have character depth - Mika doesn't. At least not at face value - you need a long analysis like >>14869127 and onwards to make it have a little sense, and even then it's merely speculation while the series only delivers a cold-blooded murderer.

>>14869860
I'm going to go with animation error because that last episode was REALLY bad. And it wasn't just between frames either, it was hard to watch with how bad the animation got during the episode.

>>14869890

He is also a coldblooded murderer who has no relationships with anyone except a blind follower one with Orga and whatever forced stale shit he's got going on with Atra and Kudelia. He has no rivalries, he acknowledges no enemies, he never struggles. There is no reason to feel invested in this character or anything he does.

>>14869908
>forced stale shit

Like your posts?

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>>14869906
Mika had the bracelet for most scenes until the shooting part, but yeah there was a lot of Quality in this episode

>>14869913
>there was a lot of Quality in this episode
That's an understatement. Pretty much everything from the pirate getting captured onward was nothing but QUALITY.
I used to just ignore the people shitposting about IBO's animation, but that last episode was just inexcusable.

>>14869922

At least there was a fight.

>>14869736
Thank you. Really appreciate it.

I'm not IBO's biggest fan by a long stretch, currenty hold it as mediocre and overrated, but I still think there is some subtlety to the writing. Like, one time someone said Mika doesn't affect the plot and it kinda blew me away when I thought about how his actions affected others and the consequences of them. In many ways, Mikazuki shaped the way the plot played out. He's the guy pushing Tekkadan into these situations by enabling Orga's behavior. The brutish left hand to Biscuit's controlled right.

It just clicked to me that Mika wasn't just the face of the band, he was the band.

>>14869922
K, I'm going to be real honest here:

I didn't see anything off.

I guess maybe if everything is off model enough nothing stands out? Or maybe my expectations for the show's visual direction are that low?

I thought the scene direction during the yakuza shakedown was solid though, so it's not like I wasn't paying attention to stuff happening. But nothing stood out to me as off model as far as I remember.

And that's kinda unsettling in a way.

>>14869933

More like he is the plot device.

>>14869937
The only time things WERENT off model in the second half were during facial closeups.

>>14869758
>I think it's interesting to have somebody that fucked in the head as a protag.

It's an interesting concept, but the show has done nothing interesting with it.
like >>14869890 says Mika has no depth to him, and people have to reach to the ends of the earth to make him seem like his character is more than a plot device.

Mika is literally Inaho but with brawn instead of brains

>>14869127
>>14869155
>>14869163

look at this faggot reading too much into a fucking children's show.

>>14870072

This.

Honestly I felt like at first they tried to split the protagonist in two, with orga being the actual main character, only problem was that orga is the only one that develops in any way besides like space guts and kudelia

>>14869127
>>14869155

Gonna post this on /r/Gundam so that I can get some of that sweet reddit karma points

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>>14869127
>>14869155
>>14869163
Pretty good analysis.

>>14871340
Thanks.

There was something else I remembered.

> Barbatos goes from using a katana, a weapon of the samurai in season 1, to using a weapon associated with Oni in Japan in season 2.
> Mika lost his right hand and now relies on his left. In Latin, "sinister" is the word for left-handed and the current meaning has to do with the ancient distrust of left-handed people. The handshake originally was a check for any concealed weapons around the dominant wrist, so someone trying to shake with the left arose suspicion. Left in classical latin also meant "unlucky" or "evil," where right meant "proper" or "correct."
> It can also mean that like Orga when he does hiswnking thing, Mika isn't seeing things correctly. In fact, he is seeing things in a sinister way.

>>14872394
The sword was not the most prominent in S1, though. The mace was there too.

>>14872398
Mika lost the mace, and the Dinosaw was destroyed. He had nothing else but the sword to finish the monsterous Graze Ein off, and in the end Tekkadan were regarded as knights and heroes upon the completion of their mission.

Fast forward and Mika has ditched the sword for the mace-sword, and has a reputation as the demon of Tekkadan.

>>14869127
>>14869155
>>14869163
Even after this over-speculation it seems that Mika is nothing but a symbol of Tekkadan's current status and not his own character. Just aspects of Tekkadan projected on a paper thin canvas with no reaction.

I do wish Tekkadan would acknowledge the destabilizing effect they are having on the overall security or at least suffer some repercussion for their blindness.

The opening scene of 'Couple of people died, that's too bad... Oh well, keep on trucking.' felt lazy to me.

>>14872598

The first episode of S1 set up this incredible situation where everything the main characters did just led to a far more unstable world, more child slavery, more war orphans, more local warlords, more lawlessness... and they just don't fucking care.

>>14872603
The fact they showed the audience this and not Tekkadan might lead to an interesting plotline of Orga realising his leadership skills could stand to develop and even working to help rectify his mistakes but then IBO has never been good with fleshing out potential plot threads.

>>14872603
Sometimes I wonder how much of the show deals with Yakuza stuff that isn't going to really resonate with foreign viewers.

I get the impression sometimes that the writing, at least particularly with what we've seen in S2, intends to be a critique of the Yakuza culture, how at times it's sincere about serving the community and having a high standard of conduct unlike petty rank and file killers and theives, and at other times the whole ORGANIZED CRIME thing kinda undermines whatever noble ideals they claim to hold.

How many Iron Menstruation topics are on /m/? I lost count after six.

>>14872637

Look, I love Yakuza movies, but IBO needs to stop pretending that it is one when there is so much more interesting shit going on. It wasted a LOT of time in S1 on the Teiwaz stuff but then largely nothing came of it until S2. At this point in S2 they're going harder on the Teiwaz stuff but it's the least interesting part of the show because neither Orga or Mika are compelling characters, everyone else is barely a character, they didn't really develop the politics or the world until just now, and the slow-burn Yakuza drama is hamhandedly inserted into the series, so instead of being a Yakuza drama with Gundams as a device and part of the setting, it's a Gundam series with Yakuza bullshit forced in.

Compare this to something like Gungrave which is the exact opposite, where it was all Yakuza show all the time and that worked brilliantly, with the monster action awkwardly worked in. They are two sides of the same coin.

This is not Outrage Beyond or Battles Without Honor or Humanity.

>>14872650
I think the fundamental issue is that currently the bulk of S1 is starting to look more and more like a total punt with the way S2 has gotten its shit together narrativewise.

There's having a stretch of bad episodes, and then there's 25 episodes that you can split up between cutting room floor filler, stuff to pad for time in a compilation film, and the nugget of good writing that is the Carta arc. S1 is not worth the full time investment to experience, not as it currently exists.

And this is despite me having no strongly negative feelings towards IBO as a whole. It's just that if S2 is the point that the show starts to find its identity, that leaves the really awkward issue of having a full 25 wasted episodes to your name (minus the Carta episodes, so more like 19 I guess?).

>>14872683

I agree wholeheartedly. It looks like the show is getting its act together, but it should have gotten its act together 14 episodes ago. 25 episodes where they could have made Mika into something more than a somehow worse Inaho clone and Orga into more than the poor man's Lelouch for barafags. 25 episodes where they could have actually given Mika some convincing relationship development with the two girls whose sole role in the plot now seems to be to talk about him. 25 episodes where they could have given even the tiniest fucking bit of development to the legion of throwaway literally whos in Tekkadan so maybe when they die it feels like there are some stakes and all those dead dorks actually meant something. 25 episodes where they could have actually explained what Mars was like instead of "it's bad, we gotta get out of here ASAP" so that by episode 3 they are already in space and then spend the next 10 eps dunking on cartoonishly evil pirates or engaging in tea ceremony.

>>14869222
The RX-78-2 used its shield and the cooling system in its crotch( that small red panel with a gold v opens up to release a coolant)

>>14872696

What I feel they are going for last season was it was supposed to be the first act in your standard mob story. It's supposed to be that time when everything is going their way as they acquire power and status.

Think of it like GTA Vice City. The first part sees Tommy doing all these jobs, getting to know all the major power players in VC, and ends with him usurping a major drug lord's place and power.

We are now in part 2, where I'm hoping things take a turn for the worse with Tekkadan. Where their own flaws and actions bite them in the ass as they face consequences. Where they either have to get out of the game, do things beyond forgiveness, or wind up dead. Season one was the rise of Tekkadan, season two has their fall, and depending on how much time is left a chance for redemption.

What this show doesn't need is a Vice City ending where they end up having everything minus a few friends.

>>14872795

But the thing is during the whole "rising up" parts of gangster movies we get to know a colorful band of memorable and likable characters or vicious crooks or cowardly bitches so we can like them, hate them, fear them, etc. The first half of IBO didn't have that. They are all flat as fuck. You need that kind of character interaction and for the cast to have charisma so when shit goes down you feel something, because you're invested.

No investment happened in S1, there was no reason to care about any shitter. So when it all falls apart it's like I'm reading something in the news, not watching characters I liked get torn down or faggots I hated getting what they deserved. There's no tension.

>>14872741
Did it have a specialized heatproof film for atmospheric entry?

>>14869349
>Gundam frames
You just said it. The only special thing about the gundams in IBO is the frame. The armor they use is the same as everyone else's.

>>14872795
>What this show doesn't need is a Vice City ending where they end up having everything minus a few friends.
It's gonna happen and you know it.

>>14867996
I love him as a character because he isn't debating if what he do is good or bad as long as he can make his friends happy, and with friends, i mean Orga.

>>14872813
Yeah, but that would be less a problem with the story and what it is proposing, and more the faulty execution of the series. I totally agree that the characters are in their great majority uninteresting and badly developed, but I also think that with a better direction some of them could have been done right, or at least less flat.

>>14872858
Unfortunately, I also think that will be the case.

>>14872857
It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit frame.

>>14872857
It's not even the frame that's special, it's the dual reactors providing enough energy for them to be really strong in hand-to-hand combat. IIRC some of the side material that came out during S1 made a point that even a standard Graze can beat a Gundam is it's got a better pilot than the one in the Gundam.

However after the last episode it seems like even that's going away seeing how the new Graze replacement has ether got the same kind of dual reactor setup or a single one that rivals them in output. The one piloted by the blonde girl has the same kind of super strength as the Barbatos when fighting the pirate boss and the twins.

>>14872921

Well of course with good execution it would have been good. It's a good concept. They just fucked it all up. Like with AGE. AGE was a good concept too.

>>14872813
Ehh. I know there are a number of IBO fans who love Tekkadan. They talk about how much they feel for these characters, or how they aren't flat. And there are guys who think Tekkadan do nothing wrong and will be pissed if IBO starts calling them out. A fall of Tekkadan would have them foaming at the mouth.

No matter what, some people are going to be pissed.

>>14873676
>They talk about how much they feel for these characters, or how they aren't flat

Yeah, and guess what, they're full of shit. There are people on /a/ and /m/ who unironically love things like A/Z or Gundam AGE or Infinite Stratos. Everything has its shit eaters.

Honestly, Tekkadan needs to fucking struggle. You can see the staff realized it because they tried so hard to make the Battle of Edmonton seem like a hard victory for them. But even then they pussied out. This season they're trying a bit harder to make the battles seem difficult for them, because they know that they don't fucking come off as underdogs, even though being underdogs is pretty much all that could make them sympathetic.

>>14872938
Actually the frames count for quite a lot as they allow for an absurd amount of customization, as best demonstrated with Gusion.

A Graze is a Graze but a Gundam Frame can be anything.

It could even be a Graze!

>>14867996
Actually, Mika is very much not a mary sue. Sure he is absurdly strong, but there are other pilots with similar levels of autismo that have been shown to go toe to toe with him without ussie using regular flight controls which would imply that they are actually much better pilots, he is also not an author self insert or inexplicably beloved by all other characters in the universe, he is also probably somewhat psychopathic and it shows.

I wont say that he isnt bland as fuck, but i I am saying that you dont know what the fuck you're talking about

>>14873810
But but the protagonist WINS! That means he a mary sue.

>>14873810
Here's the thing, are his flaws shown to be a detriment? A Sue can still have flaws, but in that case they're either a non-factor in the story or meant to be endearing (think Bella Swan's clumsiness). The problem is that the show doesn't put much effort into showing his flaws to be actual problems. Hell, his attitude has thus far been the driving force of Tekkadan's rags to riches story. Because of this lack of confrontation, Mika has had virtually no development as a character in almost 30 episodes.

>>14874189
Mika may be the kid in the Gundam, but Orga and Kudelia are far more of actual leads since they are the ones making the actual choices that drive the plot forward.
I'd say it's okay for Mika to be a static character with intermittent moments of growth, like his kissing Kudelia because he's not the main character. Which is a pretty huge departure for a Gundam show. But it does allow for him to be a cold, emotionless sociopath without needing to hammer over your head what a broken child he is.
It just shows you, plainly and simply, that this kid is fucked up. So far, it hasn't served as a major detriment, and I'd say the show should have more time devoted to his flaws. One thing it does do is show that very few people actually like him, but everyone respects him for his skill at piloting Barbados.

>>14874085
it depends on how he wins

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>>14872844
TV version, yes.

Movies, different.

>>14872603
My intuition says that Orga trying to get to the shortest path to their goal is going to bite him in the ass, and that's the show would be about if they are going for something solid but on the other hand another flawless victory lingers at the horizon.

>>14874444
Quads confirm.

In fact if you just aged everyone up 5-10 years and changed the mechs out, you could literally just call this a Battletech anime about mercenaries.

Man, IBO keeps getting bad all the time and nobody points it out.

>>14872598
I think we're getting to that point right now where they do start suffering consequences.

Next episode Tekkadan will suffer a terrorist attack on their Earth Branch. The Prime Minister who gave them that power in an act of corruption will be there, and may perish in the attack. Regular Arbau soldiers don't like how Tekkadan throw their weight around and act all important. So, possible new administration may restrict survivors or strip them of their authority.

Senior Teiwaz members are getting upset at how they are raising so quickly through the ranks. They're jealous, but it does show Tekkadan are making enemies within the Organization. Plus, the Boss can always cut them loose if they become a liability.

They're in bed with McGillis now, who has enemies withing Gjallarhorn. McGillis covered up Tekkadan's murder of that activist guy, which can come to bite them in the ass.

MS do record battles. McGillis is flying Carta's old machine. Imagine a video being released of Carta trying to be honorable when issuing Tekkadan that duel, only for Tekkadan to launch a surprise attack on her and her men before they can fight back. If there's a shot of the kids cheering for Mika as he rips her apart, all the better.

Other mercs don't like Tekkadan, and there's bound to be former CGS guys somewhere.

There's ample opportunity for things to begin tumbling down, just the show has to do something with it.

>>14879310
We are 3 episodes in, from a new round of 24/25 episodes, there are still plenty of time for the show to grow some balls, stop giving stuff in a silver plate for Tekkadan, and show the consequences of being a bunch of little shits.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic with this assumption, but now we can only pray for the show to follow somehow those lines and redeem itself for the awful first season.

>They're in bed with McGillis now, who has enemies withing Gjallarhorn. McGillis covered up Tekkadan's murder of that activist guy, which can come to bite them in the ass.
Now that you said, Macgillis really could blackmail Tekkadan with this, after sometime. But he looks like a smart enough guy to not take a fight with this murderous gang of kids. At least for now.

>>14879372
It's 26 episodes this season. We're 28 episodes into a 51 episode series. Think about that.

>>14879372
>We are 3 episodes in, from a new round of 24/25 episodes, there are still plenty of time for the show to grow some balls, stop giving stuff in a silver plate for Tekkadan, and show the consequences of being a bunch of little shits.
I think it might, I remember seeing here that the writer was complaining how the first seasons' director kept wanting to reel in her darker story paths, and ham-handed the "feel good" ending we got.

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>>14879389
If that statement is true, then IBO is tied with Victory as the longest running TV series.

And if it continues the modern trend of no recap episodes, it can technically be the longest running, as Victory had a few stealth recaps thrown in.

>>14879671
Yeah, but it's not like IBO is the longest continuous series. There's still that.

Then there's the guys who think this show is getting a season three. I remember last year how people were all "there has to be a season two. There's just so much plot left to wrap up they can't possibly do in 25 episodes." Then the show pretty much wrapped up the plot in 25 episodes and season two feels more like a sequel.

Would Tekkadan's advancement in Teiwaz be realistic in respect to actual yakuza?

>>14880573
>Would Tekkadan's advancement in Teiwaz be realistic in respect to actual yakuza?
Considering the shit they pulled?
Probably.
They are basically their military arm right now, and being an armed organization that publicly clashed with the only actual standing Army and come out on top means their good at what they do.
Since Teiwaz also has a manufacturing arm that builds Mobile Suits, Tekkadan makes a great advertisement for said Suits in a Post-Gjallarhorn environment.

>>14870119
Look at this faggot who knows nothing about art.

>>14879372
>stop giving stuff in a silver plate for Tekkadan

If only. They just found a Gundam buried in their new backyard.

>>14882304
>Martian halfmetal is actually codephrase for "Calamity War Gundam Frames"

What if the complacency of Gjallarhorn is actually an intentional gambit to prevent Gundams from running rampant and setting off a second Calamity War?

>>14882325
Eh, I'd give it less than 50%...
The whole reason the Gundam Frames were scattered to the four winds in the first place was that so no single group could obtain all that power.

>>14882357
I thought it's because it'd be a clusterfuck to salvage them after the Calamity War, plus they were a clusterfuck to get working in the first place and were thus subsequently benched for a design that, although having far less an upper limit for combat potential, could actually be mass produced and fielded without needing to work out quirks of superscience that have made the 72 Gundams such unique specimens of mobile suit design in the setting.

It's proving to be biting Gjallarhorn in the ass at any rate, those frames are ancient and yet still manage to keep up with and in many cases exceed the capabilities of more recent mobile suits.

Tekkadan's going to have up to 3 Gundams under their command, as far as we've seen that's an unprecedented number of Gundams operated by a single post-Calamity organization. That kind of power could tilt the world order decisively.

>>14882859
>I thought it's because it'd be a clusterfuck to salvage them after the Calamity War, plus they were a clusterfuck to get working in the first place and were thus subsequently benched for a design that, although having far less an upper limit for combat potential, could actually be mass produced and fielded without needing to work out quirks of superscience that have made the 72 Gundams such unique specimens of mobile suit design in the setting.
Nope, they were deliberately scattered as they were the Mobile Suits proto-Gjallarhorn made to END the Calamity War.

I'm guessing due to the gravitic fuckery involved with Ahab Reactors, some pretty destructive Wonder Weapons got developed, hence why Gjallarhorn keeps a monopoly on Ahab Reactor production.

>Tekkadan's going to have up to 3 Gundams under their command, as far as we've seen that's an unprecedented number of Gundams operated by a single post-Calamity organization. That kind of power could tilt the world order decisively.
Oh most certainly.