Is Gundam IBO is closest we are going to get a battletech Gundam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-_-8D8R4CU

You're welcome.

>>14861264
>MY HOME PLANET!

Everytime.

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To be fair, it's like pic related, in human campaign until the 2nd half where Cybrids' invasion begins

>>14861264
I just want a decent quality release, not even blu ray

>>14861383

Does this game hold up? I remember seeing it in a gaming magazine as a kid but I didn't have a PC. Hell, does it even run on modern systems?

>>14861471
Lore is good.
Gameplay is fine since it's just like Mechwarrior games.
Grab it from the official website, it's now a free download
https://www.tribesuniverse.com/

In order to run it on a modern system
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Starsiege#Essential_improvements

>>14861238
Is that why IBO is so shit?

>>14861532
No because if it was that kind of shit, we'd be getting some incredible memes out of it.

>KNOWLEDGE IS AMMUNITION

>>14861532
Vocal minority of their fandoms like to screm how "real" it is.

Battletech does have some good ideas though.

>>14861515

Thanks, I'll give it a whirl.

>>14861546
>YOU DARE REFUSE MY BATCHALL!?

I love Battletech TAS, it's so dumb yet so endearing.

>>14861591
>Battletech does have some good ideas though.

Not really.

The whole thing is built as this way of bringing giant robots to people who haven§t heard of it and that worked.
It also did what all of sci-fi had done and ripped off Dune (the houses, story) and threw in a bit of Mad Max, both of which were IN at the time.

Once they had to do something for themselves, it all fell apart.
No designers (hence the overabundance of shitty looking robots), no decent writers (thus a bad story) and a badly done game system which fell apart once they added anything to it.

It§s fun, enjoyable and a good historical artifact, but it didn't really come up with anything resembling good ideas that are its own.

>>14861635
>but it didn't really come up with anything resembling good ideas that are its own.

Just like IBO?

>>14861635
Vidya were good though.IMO, lore till the end of Clan Invasion is pretty entertaining.

>>14861238
>Is Gundam IBO is closest we are going to get a battletech Gundam series?

Not really, no, the Social Generals wouldn't have used swords, they would've hosed the kids down with gauss slugs and UAC20s.

>>14861664
Well, they did used them as meat shield and mobile worker pilot until Orga's takeover.

>>14861635
The biggest problem with BT designs is how they're rendered 95% of the time. I believe MWO 'fixed' a great deal of the designs it incorporates. Western mech designs, especially standy-shooty ablative deals like BattleTech, run on greeble. If the greeble sucks, then the entire render is ruined. This is why virtually all BT lineart is hot fucking trash and the mechs look like garbage. They don't know how to draw basic shit like joints and panel lines. There are is a higher proportion of designs that are fundamentally bad, yes, but the majority of BT designs would be perfectly fine with a ver.MWO or ver.Ka render.

>>14861701
I will also say that they probably deserve an artstyle closer to Heavy Metal or even Dragon's Heaven.

>>14861701
No.

They simply told artists to draw random shit they could sell in a box. No designers to speak of. That's a pretty big no-no for anything resembling decent giant robots.
That's why the setting has a bajillion robots and people couldn't name 5 iconic ones. that wouldn't include anime stuff.

Even MW:O hit its peak some time ago and is now still improving them, but with glaring issues like "sameface", reuse of shit to keep up to schedule, etc.

>>14861998
Atlas, Zeus, Commando, Dragon, Catapult plus the Clan designs.

>>14861416
Exo-Squad Season 2 would be nice, too. Releasing part of a show on DVD is bullshit.

>>14862015
Atlas is traced from a Scope-dog, Zeus, Commando, Dragon and Catapult are virtually unheard of by normal people, which goes against the iconicity.

The only iconic Clan shit is Mad Cat and maybe Vulture.

>>14862514
>atlas is a scopedog

'k, whatever makes you feel happy.

>>14862531
He is correct.
There's a picture comparing their lineart floating about. I remember the Scopedog's camera bundle was changed into a set of dishes or so. I'd post it, if I had it on hand.

>>14862554
That was a forced as hell connection that implies Scopedog has a monopoly on dome head.

An Urbanmech has more in common with a Scopedog than an Atlas.

>>14862514
>Atlas is a scopedog
nani

>>14862367
Not gonna happen. With either Battletech or Exosquad. All of the Saban 90s animated stuff is owned by Disney and they can't even do proper releases of their in house tv shows.

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>>14862531
>>14862554
>>14862574
>>14862584
The lineart is similar enough to see where the rumor comes from, but if that's a trace then the artist is terrible at tracing. In practice they look significantly different outside of the original lineart. You'd never confuse the Atlas mini for being a Scopedog.

It's pointless to argue about it any depth. People who have made up their minds have made up their minds and you're not going to change them.

>>14862601
Exo-Squad wasn't Saban, it was Universal. Season 1 is already out on DVD, so it's obviously not a rights thing holding up season 2.

>>14862514
Don't be mean to the Catapult.

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>>14862602
Usually I see this one.

>>14861998

UrbanMech, Raven, Masakari, JagerMech, Puma.

I can also keep going.

>>14861238
>Is Gundam IBO is closest we are going to get a battletech Gundam series?

Not until some crazy ass invasion beyond pluto begins.
>the truth of the Calamity War

WE

>>14864380
>UrbanMech, Raven, Masakari, JagerMech, Puma.

You could name these to a random Mechwarrior fan and they'd just look at you like an idiot.
Everyone knows what TTGL is, everyone knows what Gundam is.
But it's perfectly possible to find people who played all of the games out there and wouldn't be able to name these.

Warhammer, Atlas and Mad Cat... that's where the line ends.

MW4 players know of Vulture because intro, maybe Fafnir.
Marauder is also rather iconic but that, along with Warhammer, crashes at the not-anime rule.

>>14864460
>Everyone knows what TTGL is

I read some dumb shit today.

>>14865257
Definitely not more dumb than saying everyone knows Urbanmechs, Ravens, or fucking Jagermechs. That's for sure.

>>14861416
This.
It's impossible to watch episode 2 at all.

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>>14861264
I've always liked that background tune.

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オーガーを押し付ける気か?

>>14864460
>UrbanMech
>not fucking infamous even among secondaries for being ridiculously OP on the tabletop despite basically being a trash can on legs with a gun duct-taped to it

>tfw no BT HG plamo

>tfw MG Mad Cat/Timber Wolf never

Why even live, honestly?

>>14868226
Devline Stone will return.

>>14868226
What purpose would anything but miniatures scale serve?

Then again BT has the appeal of not needing figurines to represent your units, as long as your marker is both uniquely identifiable and has a way to represent facing.

Oh but way WAY back in the day if I remember right K'Nex had Mechwarrior stuff.

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>>14868680
The same purpose as any other mecha plamo - to have a crisp, solid, detailed plamo of it to build and pose and gawk at.

>>14864460

Okay, so if we're using intros as a metric, what about Thor? Kodiak, Catapult, Commando, Zeus, Raven, Centurion, Shadow Cat, Cougar, even the Firefly?

There's plenty of designs from MW that are memorable outside of the handful that are outright cribbed from Macross and other sources, like the Marauder and the Locust.

>>14868063
This, urbie is meme-status among anyone who even knows what BT is.

Isn't it's OP shit due to sheer RNG critical rolls with MGs

>>14868680
It's a Plamo - you build it, you paint it in your favurite colours and then you display it crushing tanks under its feet.

>>14868680
I've got the Mad Cat/Avatar kit. Never built the Avatar version but the Mad Cat adorns my room to this day.

>>14861546
it's INFORMATION IS AMMUNITION

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>>14861701
>virtually all BT lineart is hot fucking trash and the mechs look like garbage
Oh god yes. The general layout/concept for them will generally be okay, but that one lot of original drawings made very mech look unbelievably stupid. Virtually any rendition of a Battletech mech besides the original lineart looks perfectly fine. They're all so polygonal, it's less like they were designed by an artists and more by a 3D modeller working with PS1 level hardware, and also he's shit at it.

>>14869794
>artist makes something better
>someone up above him tells him to make it shittier because the deeply entrenched BT fans won't have it any other way

Just fuck my mech up, warrior.

They've been doing stuff to fix that in recent years though.

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>>14868063

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>>14869794

BattleTech thread on /m/? Cool.
So, I have this question.

Is anything even going to happen or the universe is struck in the dark age era?

>>14868852
>>14868063
The Urbie is about far from OP as you can get. It is slow as molasses on a cold winter's day at 2/3/2, even the Atlas is faster at 3/5. It's armament is ok for a mech its size with an AC 10 and a Small Laser in the standard model. It is meme status because it is bad.

Also there is no crit bonuses for MGs in the tabletop, that was something PGI added to make them worthwhile in MWO.

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>>14864407
>Not until some crazy ass invasion beyond pluto begins.

If we're talking about Battletech, I gotta ask, did anyone else spring for that flight jacket for the Harebrained Games kickstarter? It came in a while ago and it's pretty comfy. I didn't think it'd be much aside from just looking cool, but it's doing a very good job of keeping me warm in this fall weather.

>>14872874

I did, and it's pretty neat.

>>14872284
>Is anything even going to happen or the universe is struck in the dark age era?

Allegedly Ilkhan is already written and they're just too chicken to release it.

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>something PGI added to make MGs worthwhile
They can be worthwhile, you just didn't bring enough of them.

>>14861238
aside from the flying spin kicks and mechwando, IBO is actually almost exactly like what a mercenary campaign set in battle-tech is like. You can swap out mars for a moderatt sized state in periphery worlds, AV system with VDNI, Gjallarhorn for ComStar, and all the pre-calamity war tech like gundams with Star League era lostech.

Even the little nuances of running a mercenary campaign, like slowly rebuilding your mechs into custom variants by repairing them with battlefield salvage because its cheaper than ordering factory new parts, having to jump the logistical hurdles of keeping a full battalion of mechs and infantry running, being forced into contracts that could potentially be the end of your unit but the payout is bigger than your last 3 jobs combined and you've been bleeding into the red the months.

it only took a me a few episodes to start seeing this show as a battletech campaign instead of a gundam series

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>>14861701
>>14861998
>>14869794
I see somebody doesnt know about the shimmyseens or anything designed during the dark age

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>>14874013
Behold! My as of yet unpainted Juliano.

>>14864365
*ehem*

>>14861998
Madcat, Atlas, Shadowhawk, Battlemaster, Catapult, Warhammer, Annihilator, Awesome, Zeus, Certurion, Jenner, Spider, Pheonix Hawk, Stinger, Wasp, Dire Wolf, Hellstar, Mad Dog, Archer, Nova, Black Knight, King Crab, ect.

>>14874053
>So I told my drunken buddy to run out in front of our Marauder and he actually did it, the absolute madman!

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>>14874071
forgot pic

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>>14874053
Honestly, I like the Reseen Marauder a lot more than the original. I loved the Marauder back in the day, but looking at it now next to the redesign it's actually really weird looking. The legs are too long and attach too far to the back. It makes it look like it's always on the verge of falling on its face. It really shouldn't be able to torso twist in any meaningful way, either. Plus the original arms look like those floaty ropes that they use to mark the lanes in competitive swimming. The off-center cannon instead of swivel was a nice touch, too.

I guess the details didn't really come into it back in the MechWarrior 2 days.

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>>14874099
Reseen version, for comparison.

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>>14874099
>It really shouldn't be able to torso twist in any meaningful way

this is a problem that plagues battletechs early art

>>14872284
CGL says they're releasing IlClan next year, but given their track record on releasing it...

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>>14872864
Only thing that will save this anime.

>>14874099
Remember that the Glaug's a variable spacecraft with legs and arms.

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Gaelio's new gundam
> having to reload swords

>>14874013
Eh? No, that looks fine, as do most BT designs. The point was that that old lineart was really bad.

>>14874795

>Gaelio's hair is the new color scheme

This is going to take a while to get used to

>>14874795
>one day vardant-senpai will notice me

>>14874795
>these feet
>these seamlines
I wonder how they even managed it to make it stand

>>14873891
This.

>>14861264
>>14861238
Made me write this - Intro for season 3 of IBO-

"This is the Earth Sphere.
Portion of Solar System is colonized by mankind.
Once it was united under Earth Federation.
But for the last 300 years, it has been consumed by lawlessness and oppression.
Until a new enemy appeared.
Mysterious invaders known as the Titans.
*scene of Bak Om basking in Solar Ray*
Powerful and ruthless they struck like lightning attacking every region at once!
*scene of titan's beam spam pwning and owning Gjallahorn, pirates and PMCs*
But they made one big mistake.
THEY ATTACKED MY HOME FARM!
Now in the spirit of Earth Federation old enemies are reunited!
We are gonna take back our soler system!
*Random footage from SEED and SEED destiny opening*
GUNDAM : IRON BLOODED EVERYONE"

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>>14875342
HA, amazing.

Fun fact about the ECM environment in battleteh is so intense that any modern electronics would probably die the instant a battlemech looked at it funny

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>>14876348

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>>14874103
Eh? That's a commission Shimmeringsword did. Pic related is a Reseen Marauder. >>14874053 is a new "Shimseen."

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>>14874103
>>14874053

>>14876450
this annon >>14874099 already posted a much nicer glaug and these anons posted even nicer ones >>14874103 >>14874099

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>>14875342
I actually want them to introduce laser and beam weaponry so those who like to give S1's overall sub-par quality a pass by mentioning the lack of those aforementioned weapons will shut up for good.

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>>14861546
>we'd be getting some incredible memes out of it.
>implying that pic related isn't one.

>>14881858
Honestly, that's a pretty shit meme.

>>14881858
>someone other than me is using my macro
Finally

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>>14875342
kek. That was good.

>>14868660
He has according to the 3150 TRO.

>>14874048
Looks nice. Been thinking of picking one up to go along with my Ares.

>>14870155
Don't bully Urbie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pyCsu0QRO0

>>14874099
looks like something from robotech.

>>14889261
You didn't type that. I refuse to believe that.

>>14889288
Honestly yeah.
just started to re-watch robotech on netflix a few hours ago and caught what i had said.

>>14888160
Urbie is made for bully.

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>>14887903
>Immana just gonna freeze myself in and wake up to THE GLORIOUS FUTURE I CREATED

>>14891168
It's all part of the plan.

>>14861264
MUH BATCHALL

>>14874099
The Glaug/Officer's Battlepod has entirely different needs from the Marauder derived from it. Spaceflight capability, the booster pack, etc...

>there are people who still don't believe the Word of Blake were the good guys

Absolutely heretical.

>>14894412
>supporting Space ISIS

>>14895366
Fun fact- Daughter of Space ISIS leader is named Isis.
Did BT tried to warn us, considering the anti globalism wave in recent year quite parallels the dark age?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Isis_Marik

>>14895366
Yes, it sure was awful when they brought stability to the Chaos March and tried to end centuries of warfare over a vacant throne and petty grudges.

Ignore the WMDs, civilian massacres, and false-flag attacks. THE MASTER DID NOTHING WRONG.

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WoB is composed of faggots, but they broughtback the LAMs, so it's okay.

The first result for 'land to air mech' in Google Images is the YF-19.

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>>14902704
I never liked LAMs and they really hold no place in Battletech. Leave them in Macross where they belong.

Plus they universally look horrible except for one fanfiction work, and that's just because it's drawn by Dave "I can make anything look good" White.

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>>14873891
Well, that answers OP's question I guess.

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Do you need to be familiar with Battletech to play the Mechwarrior games and get what's going on?

>>14903846
Mechwarrior is so standalone it has bred an entire generation of secondaries who don't know jack shit about the tabletop.

And the lore is sometimes inconsistent.

Still, even someone whose only exposure to BT is through MW2 will understand that PISS PARROTS ARE SHIT, CLAN WOLF REPRESENT.

>>14878917

On that matter, did the BDs improve IBO's art/animation much?

>>14903846
Nope. It's honestly better if you don't know jack about BT before playing. Especially the Mechwarrior 4 series

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>>14903858

>>14903904
>Especially the Mechwarrior 4 series

Why?

Plus, anyone knows how to get Mechwarrior 4:Merc Runnong in Windows 8.1?

>>14903858
My trothkin.

>>14905017
Because it shits all over established canon. At least Vengeance does. It mostly has to do with Inner Sphere forces having tons of Clan mechs.

>>14905813
By that point in the timelines aren't several clans assimilated into the Inner Sphere?

>>14905853
Yes. Ghost Bear no longer exists.

>>14905853
Yes but even so no unit, let alone a garrison unit, is going to consist of 75% clan tech.

Even the game's intro only shows 2 IS mechs, while having I believe 6 clan omnimechs. It's a little nitpicky of me but come on. If the game takes place in the Inner Sphere use mostly Inner Sphere tech while leaving clan mechs for the bosses and elite enemies.

MW4: Mercs does a better job of getting tech right

>>14861635

Well that and the tabletop game itself is quite fun and tapped into the "Armored core level of customization autism" niche of nerds.

The vidya is what made it famous though

>>14862514

Timber wolf, mad dog, puma, dire wolf and summoner are all pretty recognizable and iconic BT mechs

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>>14861238
Heavy Gear gundam anime when?

>>14908416
>inb4 Votoms
Thats not Gundam.
>inb4 08th MS team
Ha ha . Good laugh.

>>14910681
>This is how I Steiner and fail hard.jpg

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>>14908416
Top Gear Gundam anime when?

>>14903883
One of the animation directors left, saying it wasn't worthwhile to do such work for the BDs.

>>14913243
It's called build fighters.

>>14911192
>This is how I Steiner
>show clearly started out on a planet in Davion-space

Nah man, she would've been like the richest person within two or three jumps if she were a Steiner in Davion-space.

>>14914889
>Davion-space
That explains a lot.

>>14914855
Don't be a pillock.

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>>14911192
>Steiner
>Bernstein

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New Battltech / Dougram / Macross / Crusher Joe booru.
http://bgb.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list
It's definitely not finished, but it showed up within the last day and a half.

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>>14873891
I definitely see the parallels.

Would love to see a new battletech show but that's never going to happen.

Carta and her goons are basically Clanner sibbies going against dirty IS mercs for the first time. Well, I mean, Clansmen would be better at actually fighting, but still.

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>>14917675
This is more accurate
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Knights_of_the_Inner_Sphere

>>14917754
I was going for the Clans because of the whole ritualistic approach to combat and the MUH HONOUR angle.

On the other hand- posh, idealistic paladins who mostly die horrible deaths to an underhanded foe works pretty well.

>>14917754
Haven't really seen IBO; wasn't Carta a clone or gene-engineered? That makes her a trueborn!

>>14922687
She was the only heir of House Issue.That makes her Inner sphere Freebirther.

>>14922747
Ah, I know! She's like one of Victor and The Super Friends. I just remember reading that she was a test-tube baby.

>>14925104
Test tube are made of fragile glass while iron wombs are made of iron.
Hence, test tube babbies are no where near close to being a truebirther.