Why cant you accept that its a better story when condensed? This

>>14849191
>Why cant you accept that its a better story when condensed?
Because that statement is categorically false

I agree OP.
It takes out the worthless stuff and keeps in the major points of the story.

You still get the basic story of MSG.

>>14849191
Encounters in Space is my favourite thing to come out of gundam. I've watched it 8 times.

>>14849204
This.

OP is only right about the third film. Otherwise TV series is better. But if anyone has only seen the original series and not that third movie, holy shit, watch it. The editing, new animation and score create a much more emotional (and cinematic) experience

>>14849211
I liked the ending from the TV serie better for some reason.
Came into the movie expecting to get the chills again, but it didn't happen.

>>14849191
Why not just read the wiki.

>>14849191
>Why cant you accept that its a better story when condensed? This isnt an insult to the also fantastic original show in any way, Its just a fact. Theyre like, the only compilation movies ever done right in anime and yet it goes unappreciated, due to fan autism. Its not right.

You shouldn't embark on some kind of evangelical mission. Some fans do understand that the Gundam film trilogy is in fact the definitive take on classical Gundam, together with CCA. Nothing of relevance is lost going from the tv show to the films, and you gain a cohesive storyline and plot that simply isn't there in the tv show. If most fans want to cling to the desperate idea that the tv show is good I pity them. I won't certainly waste my breath in trying to convince them otherwise.

Least poser fans recommend the series because it's MORE GUNDAM. ALL OF THE ORIGINAL! NO CHANCE OF MISSING ANYTHING!!!
Other fans or "fans" don't care, they just want the story and don't care about how it was first presented.

>>14849331
>First presented
Isnt always better
See: Blade Runner
I prefer First Gundam being Star Wars style pacing rather than drawn out with the cancellation fucking up the ending. Tomino wasnt happy with it either
Its more than just compilation movies its a Directors Cut.

What the fuck is with this sudden influx of OPs going

>"Why can't people ACCEPT that <animeme> is a good show?"

Is this all the same guy or something? All the OPs starting like this can't be a fucking coinky-dink

>>14849953
Probably the same fucker(s) mass-producing "Why can't people ACCEPT that <animeme> is a bad show?" threads.

>>14849949
Never said it was.

>>14850089
But I was one of those guys!
But I don't word my fucking OP like that

Macross Plus movie is also an excellent retelling of the OVA.

>>14849280
>If most fans want to cling to the desperate idea that the tv show is good I pity them
*Unsheaths copy of Encounters In Space* "heh, nothing personnel kid"

>>14849191
Because I haven't watched it

>>14849191
>movie III
>Soldiers of sorrow
Uhh...

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>>14849191
>soldiers of sorrow
>everyone except the autist is smiling

>>14849191
You know, judging by this cover you'd think that everyone died and became a ghost except for Amuro.

Movie 3 is the best Gundam anything, I swear
Maybe because the last part of 0079 was more suited to a movie format.

>>14849191

Only the third ( and maybe the first) movies are. They dropped the ball on the second one though. They justify why Bright considers pulling Amuro from the Gundam much better in the tv series ( because he was actually disobeying orders and almost causing the mission to fail) where in the movies we don`t see much reason for it, making the drama of Amuro running away with the Gundam seem kind of out of left field.

Encounter`s of Space is one of the best Anime Movies ever though. That arc in the TV series had too many filler MA episodes anyways.

>>14849191
YES MY SWEET
YES MY SWEETEST

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>>14850668
I WANNA GET BACK WHERE YOU WERE

>>14849192
>catagorically

Abandon thread! He knows AND uses big words! He's too smart for us now. We should have killed him sooner.

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>>14849191
The movies are the superior way to watch this series. The show has NOTHING of value that wasn't already included (and improved) in the movies. I know this for a fact because I have watched both. First the movies, then the TV series to see what I "missed".

I missed a lot of filler plot and entire spans of episodes dragging on with nothing happening, not even character growth (or at least none that wasn't already in the movies). The animation IS bad and not in the "oh I'll tolerate it because it's a classic and deserves my respect", it's just actually bad-- completely remedied in the movies. No one should have to sit through 42 episodes where maybe 25 of them were actually eventful or meaningful in any way.

Also the corest booster irrefutabley makes the superior movie trilogy canon overy the TV series.

>>14850829
もう一度!

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>>14849191

>>14850958
You sound like you would never be able to watch or enjoy anything from the seventies, much less for kids, unironically. It wouldn't be srs enough for you and the MOTW would be too much.

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>>14851885
No, you just prefer an inferior version of 0079.

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>>14850958
>>14852050
No Gyan, no deal.

Seriously, the number of people who, the first ep of GBF, saw the Gyan and went "what the hell is that thing?" because they had no clue it existed, STRICTLY because people like you spout this bullshit, was obscene. MSG is the cornerstone of the franchise, everyone should see it once at least for their own information, inferior or not.

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The patrician way to experience 0079

Step 1: Watch TV series
Step 2: Watch Movie trilogy
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit

the movie trilogy is fantastic for rewatching; I personally rewatch yearly

remember kids, in almost any case production order is the way. dont be a pleb

>>14852230
I think jumping to the third movie after a certain episode would be better but yeah production order is the safest way.

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how can you faggots watch this moeshit

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>>14852269
fuck off uguu loli

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>>14849191
They're not unappreciated. They are very much appreciated as good movies, but they aren't recognized as good replacements for MSG: the series.

You'd lose genuinely good parts of the series. The Gyan fight and odessa are notable examples, and with every bit of sheering and corner-trimming, you lose character development and plot.

If you don't watch all of MSG, you won't 'get' it. The advantage of a long mecha series is that you really get a special feeling for how the machines operate (if it's a good, consistent series, that is.) 0079 is a great example of this, and more episodes are better simply to demonstrate that fact.

There's also no reason not to watch MSG. If you're going to start Early UC at all, there's around 100 episodes of Zeta and ZZ plus a bunch of movies and OVAs. Adding in the 43 episodes of MSG is not going to waste your time if you're already committed to completing the franchise.

Adopting the mindset that you can 'rush' through a series is also a huge red flag for hipster trash and poseurs. IE Folks with short attention spans who want a cliquish 'in' status without getting their hands too dirty. There should be no rush unless you have a terminal illness and need to scratch Gundam off of your bucket list.

For that reason, I think most of the people who shill the movies as the 'best' or 'only' way to watch the series are just insecure about having skipped the series themselves. They haven't seen it so their comments have little meaning.

>>14854493
I support this post and agree with it wholeheartedly.

>>14854493

To be honest, I can't help but think that the last third of Mobile Suit Gundam - Big Zam onwards - is when it really got good. The rest is a bit forgettable, except for the part where Garma dies.

>>14850089
Actually im the guy whos been argueing with that guy. I love Gundam and wanted an outpouring of love for the movies ITT I swear. Wanted to counteract the negatively of that guy.

>>14850625
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Tomino wanted that at one point

>>14850659
Second Zeta movie was crap too
>Shorten Four arc
Ok fine Tomino thats cool i guess...
>Keeps only the shitty parts and kills her off before the good parts got to happen
What the fuck why put her in the movie at all??? TOMINO
Literally turned off the movie halfway thru in autist rage.

>>14852060
The Gyan is stupid. Why makes a Knight Mobile suit. Its G Gundam Tier LOL

>>14854493
>I dont like the movies because theyre easier to get into
>Has the lack of self awareness to call other hipsters
Hey dude. Youre an elitist hipster. Face the truth.
I watched the movies. I watched the movies then watched all of Zeta and ZZ too. Looked up the Gyan fight on YouTube and Odessa was better in Origin.
Most if the you so called diehards haven't even finished ZZ and shit on it. Fuck yall.

>>14854493
>>Adopting the mindset that you can 'rush' through a series is also a huge red flag for hipster trash and poseurs. IE Folks with short attention spans who want a cliquish 'in' status without getting their hands too dirty.

This. See also "I want to watch this, what bits can I skip?"

eh, movie II was pretty poorly paced, and the material it's supposed to cover is arguably the most integral to the plot (characters dying and Amuro growing up). If I went back and rewatched original gendum, I'd do:

>Movie I
>TV earth arc
>Movie III

>>14854958
>it's a Kais ghost comes back to annoy Amuro for a laugh episode

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>>14849191
>Its just a fact.
No, it's your opinion, retard. There is a difference.

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>>14852269
Because we had nearly five or six decades to finally come and accept it.

>>14854493
Another thing people don't get is that the slow mecha fights throughout the series reinforce that the mobile suits are slow and clumsy almost, then it is flipped on it's head later in the series as Amuro get better and quicker and it really hypes up the OH SHIT factor.

>>14854493
This fucking guy gets it.

>>14851885
Not him, but I share a similar opinion as him, but i've seen a number of other well-known anime in the decade and none of them really have the problems that I had with Gundam (Or at least not to the same degree)

Look at Ashita no Joe for example, that's a 79 episode series with terrible fucking animation, and came out 9 years earlier than 0079 but I would still rate that as a high 8/10 compared to 0079's 5/10 Why?
Because unlike 0079 all of the episodes in that are meaningful in some way- they're not just filler to pad out the length of the series. Thanks to excellent script writers they successfully build very strong characters by making full use of the 79 episode length unlike 0079.
And everyone will agree, the animation in Ashita no Joe is garbage just like Gundam 0079, but it makes up for that by having a much rougher and interesting artstyle and by having strong, unique scene direction.
And a lot of series in the 70's don't even have the same problem Gundam or Joe had, they start out and carry through their series with great visuals (Basically any WMT anime), and a lot don't really overstay their welcome (Future Boy Conan, Treasure Island, Rose of Versailles all being great examples), so being from the 70's isn't at all an excuse for the original Gundam.

But the movies for 0079 fixes all of that for Gundam 0079 making it a very solid 8/10 to light 9/10 experience for me. By cutting out all of the fluff, touching up the visuals, and producing a new OST, they made a much, much better product than what they originally had.

>>14849191
I never watched the original TV series, watched the movies.

Considering I didn't really care about it I don't regret not watching 50 episodes.Kai was the only character that interested me

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>>14864586
>they start out and carry through their series with great visuals (Basically any WMT anime)

It's amazing how WMT is the beacon of good design among other badly designed crap of the era. Its visual is so good it still holds up to this day.

>>14864642
The contrast between shit like Yatterman or Time Bokan to WMT's artwork is like day and night. No wonder it got so popular.

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>>14849191


what makes movie trilogy >>> series??

better Sayla bath scene