/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #1115

Wait a sec.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvdQA89EaWU
I never noticed it, but isn't this Fa's ANT voice? I mean, it was released just a few months before Z, so they probably had the voice clips lying around, but that is kind of strange.
AP also gave a few pilots, like Tetsuya, their Z1 portraits, and made new portraits in that same style for some pilots like Kazuya or the Wing dudes, but this particular thing just sticks out to me as super weird.

I'M SPACE WOMAN

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Worshiping the Princess!

>>14738672
Post her butt.

>>14738167
>Iczer 1 and 3
>Diebuster is mostly about girls
>The closest thing to a male love interest for Noriko has never ever been in Gunbuster.

I've read that GC doesn't have it's originals units from the original game in OG? Why is that? Copyright?

>>14738334
Big deal, I stopped bothering with the main anime years ago, since it's been gradually dragging endlessly like The Simpsons. Not even Ash's possible reaction to Oak: Hawaii Edition will bring me back.

Pokémon Generations is looking better, despite just being a bunch of shorts.

>>14738725
GC has only the super original, with everybody else getting redesigned.
It's because all the OG designs were originally from the Sunrise World War games or something, I think?

Sunrise Eiyuutan units are not in MD obviously

They gave the Gadisword new units, Cupid, Leonisis, Ganonia

Sally & Sieg gets the Leonisis Varga & Leonisis Haga

>>14738731
By Super you mean both the GG and FF and it's variations?

Really wish they'd bothered making a brand new Soul Gunner and/or Soul Lancer, or at least an equivalent.

Just finished EX Hard,XN-L hits like a truck
He'll pay for it in Special Mode

>>14738778
>>14738781
wow, they didn' even tried to hide it

>>14738765
Yup.

>>14738781
Was Impulse 7 the Eiyuutan version or something?

>>14738815
Yes,it kinda looks better imo

>>14738778
>>14738781
Interesting note: The Impulse 7 actually shows up in Alpha for Dreamcast.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2723392

>>14738829
>Kanji and Rie Akatsuki
Akatsukis everywhere,Ishida Akira even

>>14738829
Oh, there's also the Cloud Saber, which has a lot of similarities with the Soul Lancer.

>Sunrise World War REAL ABILITY http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26206673
cool

>Setsuko's Virgo B
10 SP Sense sounds really cool but that's her 4th spirit.

I wonder if its really worth spending about half of the game without access to it on a RR.

>>14738877
>I wonder if its really worth spending about half of the game without access to it on a RR.
Obviously you can fix that by making her a squaddie

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26924929

>>14738877
Hopefully she gets 10SP Sense in OG as her first spirit

>SRW 2nd OGs - 2012
>SRW Dark Prison - 2013
>SRW Moon Dwellers 2016

I can feel it in my bones

SRW Violent Battle - 2017

I can sense the universe's aura bending to my will.

>>14738922
That's just your twisted ego distorting this world.

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>>14738922
Is it true?

Have the factors that the minstrel spoke of finally gathered?

It's the return of the old man.

>>14734752

>>My problem with it is how the hell are they gonna implement this on space stages.

Why not have the Universal Century Gundam characters provide the Cross Ange characters space pilot suits?

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>Voiced by Yuuki Tai
>tfw Terada will troll us once again by having Cobray possessed him instead of OG Ayin, Ing or Amara, Forming an even more powerful Habakiri to reshape the universe after being destroyed by Yukimura since there are no Rahxephon around.

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I WANT TO MARRY MIO

>>14738945
Eh. Xabungle doesn't even have sealed cockpits.
They've been doing "Good ol' Astonaige fixed it so you can go into space/do X! Go ahead!" since SRW4.

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>>14739028
Actually showing it was the best thing Shin has ever done

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>>14738933

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcHRa2Rt_Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQUxadmMzCs
Who did it better?

>>14739178
Z, the Nemo's actually looked cool despite being grunts. The Jegan looks pathetic by comparison, even worse when the Alpha 3 version exists.

>>14739178
Nemo, by far.

>>14739178
I still can't believe how could they drop the ball so hard with the Z saga.

>>14739194
I feel like their biggest mistake was probably trying to force the whole less SD proportions thing.
It's a lot harder to make dynamic poses with limited sprites, and actually making those sprites consumes a lot more time and effort. Just not worth the trouble.

>>14739194
Z2 was decent enough.

I want to know what happened with 3 though. I really hope V's good.

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>>14739203
>It's a lot harder to make dynamic poses with limited sprites, and actually making those sprites consumes a lot more time and effort

Jigoku and Tengoku utilize more symbols per animation than most other games in the franchise. Breadth has little to do with it.

>>14739222
>I want to know what happened with 3 though.
Not that hard to figure out - too many things they had to resprite due to forced console jump (PSP was ded), too little time.

>>14739178
I have a problem with Z3 trying a bit too hard to mimic the anime's special effects for, well, just about everything.

Would +15 pilot accuracy, +10 weapon modifiers and +300 damage be good enough for enemies in J?

They do get upgrades as the game goes along so they should be able to compete with the team as the game goes along.

If the RX-78-2 ever shows up in HD they better mimic the exact QUALITY of 0079

>>14739400
But the RX-78-2 often got to move really fluidly and have pretty cool battle choreography
Can the HD SRW team (aside from maybe the Unicorn guy) accomplish such a thing

>>14739416
Unicorn Guy's few good pieces are outliers in his overall portfolio.

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>>14739416
Yeah but theres also this and if this exact still isnt there i'm rioting

>>14739420
Please calm down and reconsider your actions for the sake of all humanity.

>>14739428
Theres some irony in being told to calm down by VF but i'm not smart enough to get it

>>14739429
You just don't have enough Insight, that's all.

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>>14739447

>>14739419
What IS the Unicorn guy's overall portfolio?
The only units I'm sure 100% he did are the Unicorns themselves and the 00, and I guess the Quanta was kind of eh in Z3, but it looks like it got a pretty major upgrade for V, at least.

>G Gen Genesis Eng Asia version releases the same day as JP
how do those amoeba yaros do it?

>>14739483
Off the top of my head.

Byarlant Custom
ReZEL
Delta Plus
Jesta
Loto
Banshee
Brave
Various Unicorn enemy grunts

>>14739512
The Byarlant's so different from the rest of the Unicorn units that I think that's a different guy. I'm pretty sure the same guy's also behind the Brave.
The other Unicorn Feddie suits and I think the Zeon remnant suits do seem like his handiwork, though.

>>14739527
>The Byarlant's so different from the rest of the Unicorn units that I think that's a different guy

Look at the coloring around the edges, especially during the close up during its last attack. It's definitely the same guy. Plus, it looks no different from the Jesta and Loto in terms of technical work.

I don't think there's any one guy responsible for the end result in the development process of a unit's animation.

There are multiple steps to it and multiple people involved.

You create a storyboard.
Then you create the base (a 3D model, sketch on paper, or digital drawing)
Then you take that base and convert it into the sprite, breaking it up so you have as many rotating and moving parts as the storyboard requires.
Then you run it through multiple tools for animation purposes.

You also have to take into consideration whoever owns the copyright. They may have a very specific image of how their robots and characters should be represented, so it wouldn't surprise me if they got involved.

It's a rough process and I can see why not everything is going to end up looking great as an end result.

Unless, that is, the character or robot in question was created specifically for the game. Then there's a lot more freedom involved and you can keep tweaking and modifying until you get a result that satisfies the team.

>>14739543
But the animation style is so different, even from the Jesta and the Loto. Look at the erratic camera zooms, the overuse of the main standing pose, the way it moves, the way effects are used, everything.

It's got a lot more in common with the Neo-Zeon unit animator, the guy who did the Sazabi and probably the Sinanju. Even the sprite seems more similar to those.

>>14739571
Sazabi and Sinanju's sprites are grossly different.

>>14739222
> I really hope V's good.

Stop having hope, lower your expectations to the point where nothing can disappoint you, and get the game a year after release. That should give you enough to time know if you really want it, or to learn if it's Z3.3.

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I miss pre-alpha 3 clothes
The one I look forward to is Kusuha's alpha 3 one

>>14739881
Poor Kazuma, Touya gets an entire harem and Kazuma can't even fuck himself

>>14739881
>StoW
What does it mean

>>14739898
It says J to W, Touya is passing the baton to Kazuma, symbolizing that Kazuma will be the next main character in the SRW franchise at the time

>>14739902
>implying he isn't going to get fucked over by Cobray
Touya's just lucky he only had to share a spotlight with fucking GC lmao

>>14739903
Literally only Ingram fan boys give two shits about Cobray

>>14739903
The GC cast crossing over with the Zuvorg and Calvina were more interesting than Touya.

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>>14739909
>GC cast
>more interesting than anything

You can be funny sometimes, anon.
Sometimes.

>>14739909
This. Touya a shit and it's shit that he ended up getting all the powerpuffs for free; even Tenia who wasn't even gifted to him by his father.

>>14739921
Touya got upstaged by Calvina for almost the entirety of the J plot. The vast majority of the stuff that carrier that plot forward was Calvina.

Even the plain GC people had the decency to be relevant to their own plot.

>Coustwell Brachium
>No pilot because Granteed Dracodeus & Bellzelute Brigandi is better

JUST

>>14739926
Doesn't matter how relevant to their plot the GC cast are. It doesn't make it any less banal.

Touya's probably going to be ever-so slightly relevant in the future thanks to the Jew Giants. That plotline will probably be shit

>>14739934
>Dendrobriums
>Cerberus Ignite
>Vysaga
>Ashsaber
It's not like this is a completely new thing anon

>>14739934
Brachium is good until Infinity Calibur

>>14739939
There are tons of pilots who can benefit from Ashsaber at least. Anyone who's stuck in a Gespenst or even Latooni if you're not going to use Shine-oujo.

>>14739938
You're so negative about everything.

Relax, it's just robot crossovers.

>>14739926
At the cost of Calvina getting any interaction with her subpilots who all just orbited around Touya. They might as well have removed that mechanic from Bellzelute. I don't think she's talked to them outside of the opening routes and SHUT UP I'M THE PILOT.

>>14739945
I'm just calling it how I see it.
Existing alongside the everflow of life.
An existence that can only be called "sonorous".

>>14739938
It doesn't matter what you think though. What matters is that the GC cast didn't get upstaged in their own plot which makes them better than Touya.

>>14739950
It's more like the ones who get the sub spots are relevant and the other has no point.

>>14739985
>What matters is that the GC cast didn't get upstaged in their own plot which makes them better than Touya.

That's a facet that only matters in relevance in their own plot, and has little bearing on overall quality and even less bearing on the innate quality of the character(s) appeal.

>>14739334
Slap another +10 accuracy (or something in that range) on top of the minor stat buffs that the enemy grunts get halfway through the game, and it could work.

>>14739926
>Touya got upstaged by Calvina for almost the entirety of the J plot.

Wait, was he? In J itself I would agree because she has the Al-Van thing. But I just finished MD, and aside from the Al-Van plot (which is partially shared with Touya thanks to E-Selda) and Jua-Mu's obsession, Calvina is completely divorced from what's going on with Fury. Everything related to the Fury itself, the princess, the racial purity conflict, and essentially every Fury members except Al-Van and Jua-Mu, is all about Touya. You can write Calvina out of the game and quite frankly nothing needs to be changed, because in J Jua-Mu can become obsessed with Touya too. You can't write out Touya because his character is tied to the entire Fury plot.

>>14740037
Touya's problem is that while he is relevant, Calvina is the one who does a lot of the actual pushing and interaction with the key faces of the Fury that the Steel Dragons fight.

Touya doesn't really come into his own until when J's tying itself up and Calvina resolved all of her plot threads outside of Jua-Mu's butthurt at her ruining his entire life.

TACHIAGARE KEDAKAKU MARE SALAME NO UKETA SENSHI YO

>>14739994
Akemi and Sally are cute girls. Touya's not a girl so he loses appeal.

>>14740049
>Touya doesn't really come into his own until when J's tying itself up

Because that's how his character was written in J, it's just that MD skipped the 20 stages of him being mopey so he seemed static. It doesn't change that while Calvina interacts, none of her interaction outside of two people actually matters. Touya as a character is necesary for the entire plot to work.

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>>14740053
Yes, but you're forgetting one thing.
Exposed
Collar bones

How badly do you want an Ardygun Family Vest, anon?

>>14740064
>wanting to look like a massive fucking chuuni in public
Touya's jacket is cool though

>>14740069
What if your big sisters wore it with you?
And your little sister?
And your 10/10 genderbent clone?

>>14740057
Touya was more memorable in J because you could gradually see him go from I don't want to fight into someone who accepted his fate and was ready to roll.

In MD, Touya skips the I don't want to fight arc and all he really does is sit around in the Granteed and sit out of the Fury battles because they're more interested in the unit than anything.

And even when it does start to shift over to Touya, the Fury are still arguably more interested in the Granteed along than Touya since they tend to just pass him off as its just E-Selda's kid. MD even takes away some of Touya's uniqueness about being the only half Fury on Earth.

The question remains, in the next OG game, what will be more broken, Banpreios or Valcazard?

Which Moon would you Dwellers?

>>14740266
I'm really curious as to what they'll do with Valcazard.
Most of its movepool is a combo with Arm Arcus and itself is in a mostly permanent combined form.

What's with the jump in quality between GBA OG1 and OG2? Sprites, effects, music, interface, everything got a significant boost.

>>14740266
That ignores the possibility they may just upgrade both Banpreios and Valzacard with new forms, both machines were incomplete in their respective series and last minute rushjobs.

From a gameplay perspective? Neither. It'll be Solvrias Rex, not even meme'ing. That thing just shits out damage like nothing because of the Crystal heart bonus.

>>14740276
>music
eh

>>14740289
I suppose that's debatable.

>>14740288
>K
>Next OG

TOP KEK

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All day interviews are grueling as fuck. How's everyone else's day been?

>>14740276
there were other GBA SRWs made between OG and OG2

>>14740310
just D, which debatably looks worse than OG1

>>14740297
If nothing else, OG stands to salvage parts of it, at least.
I remember original boss theme being breddy gud... can't remember other tracks though.

I just want new rendition of CHIMERA, armageddon - W's last boss theme is great, aswell.

>>14740297
Didn't they make hints to it in MD?

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Who's this semen demon?

>>14740339
She wants the Ru Cobol, but Ru Cobol is Ru Cobol, so she doesn't get the Ru Cobol.

>>14740323
Not that I've ever heard of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXOVPewZ8dk&t=432

Why does this have a Cross Gate on its back anyway?

>>14738773
The Leonisis Varga has Soul Lancer's distinctive arm-gun-sword things, it's pretty clearly supposed to be the stand-in for it.

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I'm about to start Z3.1, anything I should know?
Are SR points vital to get any true ending ? (will go for them anyway but how many can I miss)
What the fuck are Destiny points?
Does the game like switching the default pilots back in their unit if you change them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR8cLEdUDqg

Enjoy being tortured in the ears with this awful shit.

Compared to other themes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOZ1GxaFPnc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMTvj9L2lEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw-p369_NTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0TR8vY_Fes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J33A5qtGMHE

>>14740375
Was it Jigoku that had the despair and hope route where the hope route was locked behind SR points or something?

Also abuse the Tension Raiser

>>14740393
Thanks, will do if that's important.
And this only has "Defy Destiny" or "Accept Destiny". Seems like it's locked behind the Destiny points

>>14740397
Right, right. Been a long time since I played through Jigoku

>>14740388
Yeah, actually, scratch that - relistening to the K themes reminds me that they are not good.
Here's hoping for Eternal Memory.

http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars/Z3.2/CB

>Custom bonus is the same shit for all Originals

Thanks, Lazypresto

>>14740407
Say what you will about K, but I refuse to sit by and let you insult Shinin' Heart, Astral Burst, Active Mind.

>>14740388
Eternal Memory is good and all but its really really short.

Krishna gives me the same feel as the Jinrai one where its meant to be a distorted version of other song, K's OP for Krishna compared to Shippu Jinrai for Jinrai's theme.

Its funny seeing people claiming to like Doomsday now after all of the shit that they gave the J version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2hMgBu7UVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrK-tlvFPlA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-dn0ogwQpA

W is so much better than K, it's embarassing that K is even in the same generation

Why is @G is fucking shitty?

>>14740407
Knowledge Recorder is a better enemy theme than Eternal Memory because it has actual build up and meat to a song that's going to be droning on and on while you watch animations.

Not that the latter is bad in anyway but its ill fitting for anything but a final attack theme.

>>14740476
Nope, not Godzilla.

>>14740487
Indeed it's not, that's Gigan.

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when will Aquarion Logos get in?

1-3 Setsuko
4-6 Land
7-9 Play MD
0 Play Sen no Kiseki

>>14740477
Because it punishes you for doing well by giving you shitty units like GM Quels and GunEZs.
I mean sure, GunEZs are sex in giant robot form, but they cannot fucking keep up with what @G wants from you.

>>14740498
>Gun EZs

Wasn't it a Gunblastor?

>>14740498
I'm talking about that stage where Coset goes ape shit crazy.

>>14740522
The first Mountain Cycle set gives a GunEZ and GM Quel on Hard, a Victory Hexa and Gunblaster on Normal, and the Sazabi and ZII on Easy.
I actually thought the GM Quel was from the Normal set but somehow remembered the Hard set.
>>14740532
Oh, because @G fucking hates you upgrading good units.

>Looking through the JP Wiki for Z
>Rand has a birthday with both Snipe and Boost

That's kind of interesting since it covers both of his main flaws.

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TURN A TURN

>>14740533
Ah, ok. The Quel was the only one I remembered, because @G is the only game with GM Quels.

>Oh, because @G fucking hates you upgrading good units.

Honestly I think the problem is too much plot tailored to getting in the way of you deploying the things you want.

>>14740557
Isn't his last finisher his only attack at 1 range too? Range parts are really nice on him, since it's not like he's really begging for too much else.

>>14740533
>Oh, because @G fucking hates you upgrading good units.
By giving me shitty stages like this?

I'm in the middle of picking through Oozumou's music.
I'm doing my best trying to sort out the names of each track, but if anyone has a source for the music names I'm not aware of, please bring it up, as I'd like to give each track their proper names. After I'm done I'll go down the chronological list and play/rip the next game.
That's about it.

Did the MD ending imply the Earth Federation's higher ups are actually evil?

>>14740641
Well seeing how SRW has been going, at some point the Steel Dragons are gonna have to fight the Federation for real instead of the notTitans situation we got in OG2nd in order to match the whole Feddies are evil mentality we have been getting lately.

Why are the Guests such jokes in OG2nd, DP & MD?

>>14740652
>in order to match the whole Feddies are evil mentality we have been getting lately.

Which are only in arguably Z's OGs and UX's?

>>14740681
We will have to do UX's story eventually Matt and who knows how they're gonna do Z when that gets in.

>>14740684
>who knows how they're gonna do Z when that gets in
Speaking of which, I feel like they'll have to introduce more games than usual to OG if they really want to have multiple worlds for Z plot. Regular OGverse would stand in for the UC. Glory Star and K cast would stand in for CE. L and 64 (as if) could come from Shadow Mirror. Land and Mer could come from a world based on @G's and R's bad futures since those never happened in OG.

Pretty much every SRW Federation in a game with Seed or Destiny was at least partially evil, because muh blue cosmos/logos. Some dealt with it better than others, naturally, but.

Iunno; between the coup in OG2 and the GS bullshit in 2nd I think we've gotten it largely worked out of OG's system, unless they just want to introduce some new evil assholes for... reasons. I can't think of any upcoming OG plots that strictly require it, though (haven't played UX or BX yet). If they ever get to Z maybe Chimera, but they probably ought to do something new with them anyway.

>>14740699
In all honesty, they don't even need to do multiple worlds for Z considering the dimensional dead end the OG universe is.

Oh boy, you guys were right, Z3 really feels cheap right of the bat
>Those FMP units
Fucking lmao, I had to check if it wasn't just the Vita version being shit
Also they changed the way the square button skip the animation from Z2, it was perfect before, why did they change it?
Dammit bamco

>>14740701
Your group in UX is branded as terrorists in the first third of the game.

>>14740709
How the hell did that happen? Did they put the SKL guys on public relations or something?

>>14740701
isn't the main bad guy of L the president?

>>14740710
>private mysterious mercenary group
>that works alongside Celestial Being
>and other various privatized powers like Team-D and SMS
>and Tatsumiya Island during Fafner's plot
>btw Hazard is Euzething about lmao

Odds were stacked against them.

>>14740684
Z's going to be before UX, for sure.

>>14740701
But in some of those cases the Feddies aren't the OG villains. In K the OG villains are aliens, in L the original villains were an asshole from another universe.

>>14740710
Your group in UX contained:

Celestial FUCKING Being
the Elshank
the Fafner cast
R-Daigun
Multiple Aura Battlers
A bunch of fucks from another universe
The "Ghost".
Linebarrel.
A couple of legitimate artificial intelligences from out of goddamn nowhere based off the fucking Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

If your group wasn't considered terrorists given UX's cast list it'd be fucking dumb.

>>14740723
>Celestial FUCKING Being
I love how everyone forgets that it's movie CB outside of Z2, which the Feds are at least willing to tolerate existing.

Everything else could have been folded into the usual SRW Team™ with some difficulty, outside of assholes like Hazard and the Fafner retards (on both sides) ruining everything.

>>14740723
>A bunch of fucks from another universe

which people were these ones?

>>14740723
But in R-Daigun and Celestial Being's case that's after they're done being terrorists.

>>14740733
Macross.

>>14740732
That's true. The Feds certainly don't have a problem with them in UX. But with Tobikage, Fafner, Heroman, Dancouga Nova, and Wings of Rean on the cast list making your squad look bad, Celestial Being and all those other very mysterious people being around screw with the chance of your group looking legitimate.

The fact that you recruit a guy who very publically murdered a bunch of people by purposefully and for no good reason destroying a bridge inside his giant robot doesn't help either.

>>14740733
The Frontier cast.

>>14740736
In 00 Gundam's case, yes. In R-Daigun's case... maybe Isabelle Cronkite got them to look good when they were murdering Wakamoto, but there never was an official end to hostilities there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8uFeBJxX1Q

>Steel Dragons, Rushbird & Straybird VS GreAT

SOON

>>14740742
>The Feds certainly don't have a problem with them in UX

BX, rather. Of course they spend like their entire time that the group isn't on your squad beating the shit out of the Vagans so that probably helps.

>During his final battle, Lude says he wants his mech to achieve the same legendary status as the SDF-1 Macross

What is the Macross of OG?

>>14740742
> a guy who very publically murdered a bunch of people by purposefully and for no good reason destroying a bridge inside his giant robot
Why did he have a bridge inside his robot?

>>14740742
>That's true. The Feds certainly don't have a problem with them in UX. But with Tobikage, Fafner, Heroman, Dancouga Nova, and Wings of Rean on the cast list making your squad look bad,

so the SKL guys are chill in the eyes of the feds? Hell, wasn't the plot of SKL to send them to Party Island to stop the reactor?

>>14740742
And then, UX themselves (Richard and Saya) constantly work on both sides and are incredibly cheap to hire.
It's not a good idea to let a group like that run wild.

>>14740756
>so the SKL guys are chill in the eyes of the feds?

When they're working with the feds, yes.
When they're fighting alongside a recognized enemy of the Federation? No.

thanks to the people telling me about Mind Blast gets rid of casted spirits.

Going to make XN-L on EX Hard easier

>>14740770
He can go full frontal or sly surprise on me as long as he comes shirtless.

>>14740770
Full Frontal always

>>14740756
The Skull Force is government sanctioned, iirc, what with being a special forces unit of the WSO and all.

>>14740750
Don't have one, yet. We do have the Yamato, and the Nadesico. I'm still waiting for the Ra Cailum, and the Eltrium (OH WAIT, IT BLEW UP).

>>14740752
There should be a "while" in there.

>>14740756
Well, they were working for the Feds to do that job, so yeah. And then they allied themselves with aliens and terrorists and a group that the EF had a lot of reasons to go after and they became enemies. It's what >>14740757 said.

Fortunately you break out of that phase of the game fairly quickly. There's a massive battle against the Satellite Weapon from Linebarrels at the end of Part 1 (the stage after Mark Sein debuts at that one plant where you pick up Allelujah and Soma) where a bunch of Federation troops are mixed with the Zaboom Empire to try and kill you, as a big meeting by the top brass is going on, but a bunch of your allies on Earth manage to get the guys on top to stop obsessively killing your squad. (And then fucking CHOUJUU GASHIN sequence happens entirely voiced at some point during the stage and it's amazing, that stage fucking rocks.)

>>14740792
Hiryu Kai (Y-Unit) when?

>>14740750
Valstork? Not from this world tech, giant robot mode, fuckhuge cannon, transforming mecha complement...

>>14740750
The Valstork/Valguard/Valzacard line is the closest thing we have right now.

>>14740792
>We do have the Yamato, and the Nadesico
And the Gotengo.

>>14738616
I just started A Portable, I heard that it has "only" 30 stages, is it true? Isn't 30 a bit too low? I feel like I won't be able to experiment/try different units because it's short and pilot upgrading is more or less a pain in the ass

>>14740815
You don't experiment with different units in A Portable.

I didn't know almost anyone could pilot the R-Gun in Moon Dwellers. However, can only Mai and Villeta do the combo attack with SRX?

>>14740815
Oddly enough, while experimenting with units in AP is extremely fun if you don't know how to set up a final party to rush the final boss you're probably gonna be in trouble if you refuse to use the game over trick.

Otherwise just have fun and mix and match things.

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>>14740815
Also, I seriously think that Alex "FuckFace" is a bit stupid

>>14740820
>However, can only Mai and Villeta do the combo attack with SRX?

yes. Infact the stats change depending on who pilots it for the combo (Mai's is stronger but the min range changes to 3, uses more will and EN)

>>14740820
They can? I could have sworn it was just Villeta and Mai (at least in 2nd OG).

>>14740820
>However, can only Mai and Villeta do the combo attack with SRX?

Yeah, only the SRX team can use the HTB Cannon.

>>14740822
How did the translation make it? Is it still only the first chapter?

>>14740815
38

>>14740820
Yeah, not that you'll ever use Mai, specially after 2nd OG.

>>14740818
>>14740821
So, without a guide I won't be able to enjoy it? I mean if I play a non-guide-assisted playthrough will I still be able to finish it without rage quitting because I fucked up team composition and mandatory upgraded units?

>>14740830
*How far

>>14740836
This depends entirely on whether you are okay with game over grinding, if you're not then you'll need a guide.
If you are okay with game over grinding then feel free to go nuts

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>>14740830
From what it was written in the translation project page menu and everything non-story is 100% done while story translation is more or less at 45~50% I think.

Honestly, menu and related shit are complete so I'm more than happy.

>>14740841
I don't mind a bit of grinding but I hope it won't be like in alpha Gaiden final stage being literally impossible with an experimenting team in the first playthrough

>>14740808
Too bad we almost never get to keep it.

>>14740859
AP isn't that bad, you just have to be ready to zerg rush the Zweizergain because you only have 10 turns to kill the prick and AP has game over trick unlike @G.

>>14740841
Is "Ore wa Great Mazinger" available as bgm in A Portable?

>>14740855
Damn maybe I should give this piece of shit another go.

>>14740877
No we get a different theme in AP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unxPDlns7is

>>14740864
>game over trick

Care to explain?

By the way I'll rush if necessary even if I generally prefer to first erase grunts and then focus the boss.

>>14740885
Too bad, that song is my all-time favorite Mazinger theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXTJ33Y3YOQ

Was Belial that fast in the source material?

>>14740886
when you fail a mission you retain EXP and Cash earned on that stage

>>14740886
When you game over you're sent back to the intermission screen in newer games, when you do that you keep money and exp. Kills depend on the game.

Be warned in games with skill points this negates them, AP doesn't have skill points though.

>>14740889
It's a nice song

>>14740890
Pretty much, it was also camouflaged in most of it's appearances, so taking it out was tremendously hard.

>>14740890
It was probably half that, half an excuse to skip animating between frames.

>>14740877
According to the Robot Series Guide...

Ore Wa Great Mazinger's in 2G, 4S, F (...and I guess Final? It doesn't have a song listed for GM.), Alpha 1, Gaiden, and 2, Compact 1 and 2, Z1, 64, and the original A.

Yuusha Wa Mazinger is in Compact 3, Impact, MX, D, Neo, and AP.

Theme of Tetsuya was in Alpha 3.

>>14740890
Yep. Leonard made sure his machine was as hax as possible, making it all the more satisfying when it gets taken out by a LAW.

>>14740892
> in games with skill points this negates them
Is that true for all games with the game-over trick? I remember getting a game-over on a stage in OG1 but still getting the battle mastery.

>>14740891
>>14740892

I wasn't aware that the grinding was called like that, thanks

>>14740899
>and the original A

Why removing the most famous one? The one you mentioned is not bad but still I don't get it.

>>14740921
The early adopters of the GOT were still ironing out the concept, but later games do it.

What would be preferable for Setsuko

Focus/Boost/Sense/Snipe/Soul
or
Focus/Snipe/Direct Hit/Sense (10 SP)/Soul

in @1 to get Sarah Akurasu says I have to shoot down Sirocco during stage 57, but he retreats after taking about two hits and has about 50K health, am I doing something wrong?

>>14740997
anyone? gamefaqs couldn't be less helpful

>>14740997
>>14741018
Did you seriously only wait ten minutes before getting impatient? Chill out.

>>14740652
>>14740641
Plus you know, the Federation wasn't exactly benevolent when they said "hey you know those Geist that almost wiped out humanity? What if, and follow me on this, what if we brought them back in nanomachine form?"

>>14741027
I got impatient cause I already had to restart the stage once before cause I forgot to bring Katz, and now I have to reset a second time and make sure Sirocco's will is as low as possible, and this time I chose to accept the plan cause maybe that will make a difference

>>14740708

The problem with Z3 is that the budget is so inconsistent. FMP looks terrible, but conversely Zeta Gundam's animations are fucking amaing.

>>14740756

SKL team was a government-sanctioned mercenary group in the ova i think

>>14741036
You don't know how budget works, anon.

>>14740890

The reason why The Laevateinn was such a big deal was because it was actually able to beat the Belial.

>>14741062

I said inconsistent, not bad. Hence I'm saying they clearly spent more on different series than others.

And I know Zeta Gundam is super iconic in japan, but it also finished its plot in fucking Z1.

alright, fuck the bitch, even with the MC at 150 will with a maxed out G Impact Cannon and using Soul, and Sirocco at 85 will I'm still not taking him out in one shot, Sarah is fucked and nothing of value was lost

>>14740864
>AP has game over trick unlike @G.
I'm fairly certain @G has the Game Over trick - you just don't get sent back to Intermission so you can only use your money in the next mission

>>14741127

Yeah, game over in @G just restarts the mission.

>>14740958
Snipe isn't particularly a useful spirit on single-pilot units IMO - if you have to use it, you messed up the previous turn. Neither is Direct Hit since this isn't FMW.

The Boost set might be useful in the early game since it's the 2nd spirit but it will basically delegate her to Squaddie because it's so SP hungry.

Where does 2G takes place in the classic timeline?

>>14741184
It's a remake of 2 except it has G Gundam and I want to say Grendizer
but even then it's not canon to the timeline

>>14741184
It's a remake of 2 with some added stuff but it's not canon.

>>14741157
Direct Hit in Z1 is actually really useful because it ignores Size/All Penalties and Barriers along with the usual Support Defense nonsense.

You can get some serious use out of it when it comes to clearing out squads.

>>14741184
In place of SRW2

>>14741193
Victory Gundam and G Gundam

Ok I think i'm done with @1 for the night, I finished up scenario 60 Axis route, I managed to have the RNG bless me long enough to fulfill Haman's insane requirements, and I got Bernie's Zaku which is honestly the most disappointing secret I've ever seen, at least the MK III R was usable, but anyway, tomorrow, Stage 61: The Arrow of Destiny, where I try to get all the secrets on the stage and probably try to shoot myself in the process

>Z1's DX
I always found it disappointing that its supposed to be Garrod's upgrade but its worse than the X Divider up until when you get Tifa and the G Bits.

Why did it take Banpresto until Tengoku to get the DX right anyway?

>>14741226
At least it looked cool, it only needed the slow build-up for the TSC, but it was otherwise fucking perfect.

>>14741226
Yeah, I eventually made DX a squaddie. I couldn't get any use out of it, because the only weapons it really had were the beam saber and beam rifle, and those don't really cut it against SR grunts or bosses.

I can't seem to get the sort of use I want out of Turn A either until the Moonlight Butterfly, but at least Loran has SP Regen

>>14741077
The animation team gets the same slice of the Budget Pie, anon. The source of the inconsistency is skill and time.

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Evening, /srwg/. I do hope your evening's been better than mine. For those who have the time to kill, you know the drill.

>>14740303
I've been better, hope your interview went okay, Rai-anon.

>>14741248
I'll try a familiar faces roll to pump some life into the thread, try SRW X!

>>14740921
It's possible in OG1. And Impact, and Alpha Gaiden, and Alpha 1.

Once you get to about Alpha 2 I don't know, but for sure you can't GOT and get a skill point in the same stage in Z, I accidentally missed one due to a save issue once.

>>14741193
2 had Grendizer. In fact, 2 was a game with Duke Fleed but no Tetsuya Tsurugi.

>>14741226
Because you haven't played every game with DX. Go play R.

>>14741273
One SRW X, coming up.

機動武闘伝Gガンダム (Mobile Fighter G Gundam)
コードギアス 反逆のルルーシュR2 (Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2)
マクロス30 銀河を繋ぐ歌声 (Macross 30: The Voice that Connects the Galaxy)
機甲戦記ドラグナー (Metal Armor Dragonar)
SDガンダム外伝 (SD Gundam Gaiden)
重戦機エルガイム (Heavy Metal L-Gaim)
機動戦士ガンダム第08MS小隊 (Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team)
神魂合体ゴーダンナー! (Shinkon Gattai Godannar!!)
ゲッターロボ (Getter Robo)
機動新世紀ガンダムX (After War Gundam X)

Can you make anything of it, anon? Would you play it?

>>14741284
>would you play it?
I would, 08th MS Team, G Gundam, Gundam X and Dragonar make a nice combination, I've never watched X but I love any Gundam design where the wings open up so the DX is fine by my book

>>14741284
Well, he got Gundam X in a roll called SRW X, I'd say that's a win in and of itself.

>>14741248
Roll me a Z3, I feel like an SRW S tonight. Anything to distract me from my own mind tonight.

>>14741295
One SRW S coming along. Hope it gives you a temporary distraction.

鉄腕アトム (Tetsuwan Atom)
宇宙戦艦ヤマト (Space Battleship Yamato)
真・魔装機神 PANZER WARFARE (Shin Masoukishin: Panzer Warfare)
黄金勇者ゴルドラン (Brave of Gold Goldran)
スーパーロボット大戦NEO (SRW NEO)
ツヴァイ・ウォルター (Zwei Worter)
真マジンガーZERO (Shin Mazinger ZERO)
モスラ2 海底の大決戦 (Rebirth of Mothra II)
ケロロ軍曹 (Keroro Gunsou)
ヤッターマン (Yatterman)
Get Ride! アムドライバー (Get Ride! AM Driver)
救急戦隊ゴーゴーファイブ (Kyuukyuu Sentai GoGoFive)
地球戦隊ファイブマン (Chikyu Sentai Fiveman)
ガングリフォン (Gungriffon)
クロスアンジュ 天使と竜の輪舞 (Cross Ange: Rondo of Angel and Dragon)
重装機兵レイノス (Assault Suits Leynos)
ブルーフロウ (Blue Flow)
ガドガード (Gad Guard)
仮面ライダーストロンガー (Kamen Rider Stronger)
蒼穹のファフナーEXODUS (Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus)
ダイノゲッター (Dino Getter)
超時空騎団サザンクロス (Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross)
スーパーロボット大戦W (SRW W)
SDガンダムGシリーズ (SD Gundam G Generation)
THEビッグオー (The Big O)

>>14741248
Give me one of those "only things in SRW" lists, if I can pull something reasonable I might try and do things for it.

Or I'll get ~half the roster as things I haven't watched again. Knowing my luck, probably that.

>>14741282
R's DX was probably the best one until Z3.2 since you had access to the Satellite Cannon at all times, but it still suffered from the whole, no proper moves to use a slightly more durable grunts until the G-Bits secret.

The charge times were also an issue since 3/5 turns is very long in SRW unless your playstyle is one where you take forever to finish simple maps.

Z3.2 > R = Z2.2 > @G > Z1 > Z2.1

I think this is a fair representation of DX's performance across the games.

>>14741298
You got it. Let's see what Matt's luck holds tonight.

ブレンパワード (Brain Powerd)
無敵ロボトライダーG7 (Muteki Robo Trider G7)
超電導カンタム・ロボ (Choudendou Kantam Robo)
New Story of Aura Battler Dunbine
装甲騎兵ボトムズ レッドショルダードキュメント 野望のルーツ (Armored Trooper VOTOMs Red Shoulder Document The Roots of Ambition)
交響詩篇エウレカセブン (Psalms of Planets Eureka Seven)
機動戦士Zガンダム (Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam)
超時空世紀オーガス (Super Dimension Century Orguss)
装甲騎兵ボトムズ 幻影篇 (Armored Trooper VOTOMs Phantom Arc)
機動戦士ガンダムSEED (Mobile Suit Gundam SEED)

>>14741300
The fact that the Satellite Cannons cost absolutely nothing (outside I think the combos?) helps a lot though. And DX is still a pretty damn solid unit even outside that, though not as good as Wing Zero were you to take its finisher away (because Wing Zero in R is fucking bullshit.)

>>14741248
SRWU

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>>14741296
Well there's a lot of stuff I don't know out of this but I expected that. I've had a background of Blue Flow for months and didn't know anything about it, wonder if it's any good. Never did get around to Gad Guard, either, but I remember hearing good things about it. All I know is, with stuff like Mazinger ZERO, Fafner and Yamato, this is a messed up fricking world. Or, with Cross Ange here, we have at least ONE messed up world, with the other side of it being rather low powered in the grand scale of things.

And then with Panzer Warfare we have THREE worlds, the two basic ones and what's left of La Gias. This'd honestly be a fun world to write for.

>>14741307
>Brain Powered
>Trider
>Kantam Robo
>E7
>Orguss
>SEED

OH I DO HOPE SOMEONE PICKS UP THAT PHONE.

>>14741307
It's like Z2, but also not Z2.

>>14741311
One SRW U, classic style.

ドラゴンズヘブン (Dragon's Heaven)
MAZE爆熱時空 (Maze Bakunetsu Jikuu)
鋼鉄神ジーグ (Kotsetsushin Jeeg)
未来ロボダルタニアス (Mirai Robo Daltanious)
ゾイドジェネシス (Zoids Genesis)
ゴジラ・ミニラ・ガバラ オール怪獣大進撃 (All Monsters Attack)
機動警察パトレイバー the Movie (Mobile Police Patlabor The Movie)
ダマスカスギヤ 東京始戦 (Damascus Gear: Operation Tokyo)
s-CRY-ed
最強ロボダイオージャ (Saikyou Robo Daioja)

>>14741310
The EN cost or lack of there of isn't in the problem. The problem that it had was the charge time.

Which is what Tengoku fixed, whether or not you think that they went too far with it is another story. Some tweaking could probably make it a bit less absurd. Since we aren't at G Gen levels of firing the TSC three+ times each turn as yet.

>>14741318
So you called it on being mostly stuff you hadn't seen? Weird, I thought you'd seen stuff like E7, SEED and Brain Powered.

>>14741325
>SRWU
>No Iczer 1
>No Gunbuster
>No Kanazuki no Miko

I'm disappointed

>>14741326
One turn of down time is fine I think, and DX having no ALL was a decent balancing measure.

>>14741325
>Maze

Now there's a name I haven't heard in forever. That was a fun show. When's my Neo 2 with all the fantasy shows like Maze, Escaflowne and Rayearth?

>>14741300
>R's DX was probably the best one until Z3.2 since you had access to the Satellite Cannon at all times, but it still suffered from the whole, no proper moves to use a slightly more durable grunts until the G-Bits secret.

Well in SRW R, you really didn't need moves like that too much, and you got the GX Bits fairly early compared to other SRWs

>>14741316
It's always nice to see the results of a roll spark some actual discussion and the like. (Happens less often with so many off-the-wall and obscure things, but that opens avenues for people to learn more, at least)

Now, write in a moment of crossover with what little you know there somehow. Make the Festum afraid of ZERO or something, I dunno.

>>14741332
>fairly early
Stage 30ish out of 37 is not that early.

>>14741338
That's still earlier than in Z1 or @G
Relatively....

>>14741336
If I was gonna take a stab at this, I feel like the multiple worlds thing would be necessary, especially with the presence of Cross Ange thereby justifying the existence of one in the first place. Keep in mind I haven't seen much of Cross Ange but I know that much. I feel like Zero would have to be some special exception to this, maybe something that Embryo made the world to contain in a separate time loop or something to that extent, I don't know, I'm sure someone more fluent in Cross Ange will make more sense of that. Make the world as terrible as possible and hope that it having to fight increasing levels of things will eventually make it die out on it's own or give up. That would include Yamato, which has people fleeing Earth already, Zwei Worter, which has 9/10's of humanity wiped out in the prologue, Gungriffon, Leynos, Gad Guard, Fafner, Big O, Astro Boy, and I guess Dino Getter all shoved into a single universe. I could not find info on Blue Flow at all so for all I know it might fit there too.

Everything else not named Panzer Warfare, Neo's OGs or maybe AM Driver would get shoved into world 2, which would honestly be rather light hearted with stuff like the Stronger, the Sentai teams, Goldran, and G Generation. I feel like you could seperate this by the MC, like how Z1 did that with Rand and Setsuko.

>>14741248
Gimme a UX

>>14741353
Here you go.

セイクリッドセブン (Sacred Seven)
ヴァイパーズ・クリード (Viper's Creed)
ガンダム EXA VS (Gundam EXA VS)
機動戦士クロスボーン・ガンダム ゴースト (Mobile Suit Crossbone Gundam Ghost)
機動戦士ガンダム シルエットフォーミュラ91 (Mobile Suit Gundam: Silhouette Formula 91)
天地無用! GXP (Tenchi Muyo! GXP)
超獣機神ダンクーガ (Choujuu Kishin Dancouga)
ガリレイドンナ (Galilei Donna)
Another Century's Episode 2
デート・ア・ライブ (Date A Live)
ウルトラマンオーブ (Ultraman Orb)
サクラ大戦2~君、死にたもうことなかれ~ (Sakura Taisen 2: Kimi, Shinitamou koto Nakare)
モスラ2 海底の大決戦 (Rebirth of Mothra II)
アクエリオンロゴス (Aquarion Logos)
銀河の三人 (Chikyuu Senshi Rayieza)

>>14741350
>R
31/37

>Z1
51/60 (ZAFT)
53/60 (Zeuth)

>@G
37/43 (Easy/Normal)
37/45 (Hard)

R actually gives you it for the least amount of time tied with the Easy/Normal end in @G. Which is kind of annoying since R's the only game where Banpresto had the bright idea to turn the Devil Gundam into a mook.

>>14741359
No, if you do the percentages, R is beaten only by @G on hard mode
R: 31/37 = 83.7%
@G: 37/45 = 82.2%

>>14741366
He made a mistake there. X's plot in @G finishes on 35 Moon, so you get Tifa and the bits on 36 Moon.

So its 83.72 and 80% respectively for both routes in Alpha Gaiden.

>>14740346
play the game

>>14740288
can't be more rushed than Rushbird

>>14741248
SRW4U
Z3
classic

>>14741327
I tried to start E7 once, shit happened and I never got back to it. Brain Powerd is one of the few Tomino productions I haven't seen, just it, Raideen, Turn A, and G-Reco I think. And I haven't seen any Gundam outside of UC or 00 that's newer than Wing.

>>14741379
Another Z3-style cluster, coming up.

新スーパーロボット大戦 (Shin SRW)
機動戦艦ナデシコ -The prince of darkness- (Martian Successor Nadesico: The Prince of Darkness)
「電脳戦機バーチャロン」シリーズ フェイ・イェンHD (Cyber Troopers Virtual-On Series: Fei-Yen HD)
キリーク・ザ・ブラッド2 (Kileak: The Blood)
仮面ライダー電王 (Kamen Rider Den-O)
ガリレイドンナ (Galilei Donna)
強殖装甲ガイバー (Bio-Booster Armor Guyver)
DETONATORオーガン (Detonator Orgun)
機動戦士ガンダムUC (Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn)
メタルギア ライジング リベンジェンス (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance)
キャプテン・アース (Captain Earth)
天地無用! GXP (Tenchi Muyo! GXP)
元気爆発ガンバルガー (Genki Bakuhatsu Ganbaruger)
機動戦士ガンダム外伝 THE BLUE DESTINY (Mobile Suit Gundam Side Story: The Blue Destiny)
アクエリオンロゴス (Aquarion Logos)
大鉄人17 (Daitetsujin 18)
Bビーダマン爆外伝 (Bomberman B-Daman Bakugaiden)
機甲創世記モスピーダ (Genesis Climber Mospeada)
仮面ライダーキバ (Kamen Rider Kiva)
亜空大作戦スラングル (Akuu Daisakusen Srungle)
サイコアーマーゴーバリアン (Psycho Armor Govarian)
Ζマジンガー (Z Mazinger)
機動戦士ガンダムSEED (Mobile Suit Gundam SEED)
交響詩篇エウレカセブン ポケットが虹でいっぱい (Eureka Seven: Pocketful of Rainbows)
艦隊これくしょん-艦これ- (Kantai Collection)

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>>14740346
They are the ones that destroyed Gadiswords planet,probably.

>>14741382
Looks pretty neat. I wonder which boatslut I'll end up top-acing.

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G Gen Genesis original

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>>14741390
>1 boot
Why do people do this

>>14741382
>大鉄人17 (Daitetsujin 18)

Something seems off about this. Just a hunch.

This list is actually pretty neat though. There's a lot of off the wall stuff that doesn't clash all that much with each other here. I feel like with Den-O here there's potential for an R like plot where the emphasis is fixing bad ends but there isn't enough bad ends here for us, or at least enough to make the entire plot based around this, to fix so hell if I know.

>>14741384
>They are the ones that destroyed Gadiswords planet,probably.

If OGMD is the same as GC in this regard, Guardisword's army did that shit to themselves and Hellruga's covering it up.

>>14741393
Hey, what's wrong with Daitetsujin 19?

>>14741396
I dunno, there's just something off about Daitetsujin 20. I can't describe what. It's just a nagging feeling in the back of my head.

>>14741036
I don't really like the Zeta, or, really, any of the Arios Guy's animations for Z3. For the most part, they're just really basic and boring choreography being prettied up with weird, jerky animation that seems to be in a different framerate from the rest of the game, and they seem more obsessed with showing off cool effects than attacks actually having an impact.

The only Zeta animation that I really like is the Hyper Mega Launcher one where it flies off-screen and then transforms to equip the gun itself. That's clever and memorable. For V, he's swapped that out for Zeta flailing around, and I really don't know why he picked THIS animation to ruin.

>>14741226
Speaking of Z, should I use normal X, or X Divider?

>>14741402
>I really don't know why he picked THIS animation to ruin.

You know what that attack had that others didn't. It's not like Z3-2 Zeta had an absurd wealth of them, not like Mazinger or Dannova or Big O or whatever.

>>14741393
I'll fix that little numerical error. There's a few hiccups in the list I keep forgetting to fix.

Was Den-O about fixing bad ends akin to R's plotline? I wasn't aware, I only know Den-O as "that Kamen Rider that's also Duo."

I'm sure you could always just rewrite bad endings to series like SEED and E7 and whatnot for him to "fix," though.

>>14741392
Asymmetry, foot fetish.

>>14741411
Are you being sarcastic or did you genuinely forget about how Z3 Zeta has like 8 moves

>>14741390
On the subject of that, I hadn't realized the other updates going along with that, G Gen Genesis's 3rd PV. I'm actually pretty interested in at least seeing stuff in action, they made a lot of it look pretty cool. Don't have either system it's coming out for though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myk7CT2WZGE

>>14741415
Sort of. In Den-O, the villains are these things called Imagin, which grant a wish to it's contract holder in exchange for their "time", which basically means free transport back to an important part of that person's past and usually possessing said person in that time period and causing havoc which directly affects the future. Den-O has a magical time traveling train which it uses to follow the Imagin back to those points in the past and stop them before they end up changing something that can't be changed back, while usually making the actual past of that person slightly better for them in the end.

>"that Kamen Rider that's also Duo."

He's also Falsaber, Shinn, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Lockon. And on rare occasions Yazan. Spirit Possession is fun like that.

>>14741421
And how many of those 8 were ALLs? And what other moves that it had were ALLs?

>>14741402
I'd agree if it were most of any other Arios Guy Z3 projects, but I like Z3 Zeta exactly because it strikes a good medium between shakiness and impact with the (very notable) exception of Waverider Crash for me.

>>14741402
I see where you're coming from but something about those animations just really works for me. It could be thst the jerkiness creates this illusion of lots of very detailed movement or the way they control the camera, plus those effects are fucking sweet. I can watch Zeta, Nu and Turn A over and over again compared to shit like the FMP upgrade where I only watched the finisher once That said I've actually come to appreciate Unicorn and DX a lot more, they have these really smooth detailed movements and in a perfect world they would have been the standard for reals in modern licensed SRW.

>>14741430
What do ALLs have to do with anything, especially when the animation in V shows only one enemy
Are you having a meltdown

>>14741440
DX is kind of a mixed bag. The choreography is generally pretty good all around, but there are moments that look really stiff pose or animation wise, most notably in the Pala combo attack where it just transitions straight into a kick with almost no frames in between and it just looks silly. The beam sabers and TSC look good though.

Destroy Unicorn looks great after they played it safe with vanilla Unicorn though, yeah.

>>14741442
>What do ALLs have to do with anything, especially when the animation in V shows only one enemy

I mean, when a unit has basically its entire movepool animated, and you need to show something new off, but you don't have squads that are the same number so the old ALLs have to be reanimated to account for that...

This really shouldn't be hard to figure out if you have two brain cells to rub together though.

>>14741440
Turn A's probably the worst offender for the "fancy effects to hide boring animation" thing. Not a lot goes on in any of its animations, including the moonlight butterfly, and they even dropped the Gundam Hammer, one of the weapons which would've been visually interesting!

As for Double X, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on. The choreography's more in-depth, but I think the execution's a fair bit worse. Stuff feels slow and stiff, and the intense zoom-ins seem pretty haphazard. The Satellite Cannon's beam looks good, but the actual buildup to it is neutered in large part that super-stiff standing pose, both on charging up and firing, and the fact it looks super weird from the front. Maybe it should've just stayed SD?
The best animation for the unit is probably the Beam Saber, but that starts getting kind of messy the moment they stop just copying the Z1 version.

>>14741452
Even the TSC has issues; Tifa's cutin looks godawful compared to her Z1 one.

>>14741467
Turn A losing the Hammer in Z3 was a goddamned crime.

I also really want one of these games to remember Turn A spent like a third to half of the series carting nukes around in its chest. Fuck, Walker Galliar keeps getting the ICBM; let him have a post-apocalyptic nuke buddy.

>>14741460
As a reminder, Z2 routinely reused Z1 ALLs as single-target attacks with little to no change in animation.

But that really shouldn't have been hard to remember if you had two brain cells to rub together though.

>>14741506
Z3 Tiffa looks ugly.

>>14741512
>I also really want one of these games to remember Turn A spent like a third to half of the series carting nukes around in its chest.
Did Z have it? I don't remember if it did but @G and Lost Heroes 2 definitely had Turn-A tossing nukes from it's chest.

In the case of LH2 it even had a fancy animation of it tossing it and using the beam rifle to trigger it.

>>14741568
None of the Z games had Turn A's nukes, but they did start giving it a full power beam rifle attack.
That's basically as good, right?

>>14741568
@G had Turn A tossing regular missiles from its chest, but I don't remember any nukes.

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>>14741568
Well, G Gen had the toss + rifle too.

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>>14741557
Z3 Tiffa it's more accurate to the show. Well, Z3 traced pretty much everything though.

>>14741568
Well, was specifically thinking SRW in regard to 'these games', since yeah, stuff like G Gen and ExVs lets it nuke shit left and right.

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pick one
J counts too just wasn't in this folder

>>14741605
D

>>14741605
D, especially if you have the armor fix handy.

>>14741607
>>14741608
D is my destiny then.
Also what armor fix, first I've heard of it. Would be more than happy to have a reason to use Big O.

>>14741616
There's a patch out there (nuruge, I think it's called?) that adjusts the game's armor values to something less garbage.

Akurasu might have it, I forget.

>>14741583
Sometimes, being accurate isn't good.

>>14741300
>unless your playstyle is one where you take forever to finish simple maps.
You know, like most of the Japanese players, the ones the games are designed for. Not a small number of gottagofast Westerners who think a 3-turn clear makes you a bad player.

>>14741658
>You know, like most of the Japanese players, the ones the games are designed for. Not a small number of gottagofast Westerners who think a 3-turn clear makes you a bad player.
Which is why most of these games' SR points and equivalents outside of MD or Impact (and Impact's pilot skill system encourages it too) are massive rushfests, right?

>>14741621
https://mega.nz/#!GlsE3SYJ!VuUlU2W9gwl-UBASznD-KWV7cKGCGvC9qpTGqZSW_c

It's a zip so it has the readme.

>>14741660
I was talking ENTIRELY about R. The reason the 2011-and-later SRWs are rushfests is because you don't need to spend SP to act twice in one turn and there's no W-act (they got rid of that, outside of Compacts, after @1), so they adjusted the turn counts to compensate.

If the latter four Z games and the last two OG games didn't have any sort of multi-action the SR point turn requirements would probably be higher.

>>14741678
It's not just post-'11 games; @1 and G have zerg rush points heavily too. Wasn't it @3 that had an overall turn count limit for one of its features as well, on top of points?

Whether or not individual systems make turn counts relatively faster or slower between games, overall the series makes a habit of incentivizing rushing, whether with better secrets, skills, or 'true' endings.

I'm sure we have our share of wannabe 'hardcore' assholes who say it's the only way to play, but when a Japanese game for Japanese audiences is deliberately rankling gamer autism with stuff like this, it seems a bit disingenuous to claim otherwise.

Even if early release streamers are all a gaggle of retards.

>>14741702
Overall turncounts have been a thing since SRW 3

>>14741583
I wish they would go back to making original cut-ins instead of tracing

>>14741721
I mostly agree with you.

Except that one for Strike Freedom's METEOR in Z1. What the fuck happened there?

>>14741662
What is the key for this anon?
I'm getting a key screen.

>>14741733
Seconding this, especially since the game mod pastebin links are dead.

>>14740704

As I said plenty of times, just add the Namco X Capcom and Project X Zone Originals, and have the Portal Stone from the latter be the Space-Time Oscillation Bomb (Super Dimension Century Orguss), thus OG ZEUTH Dimension contain the following:

1. Main OG Universe

2. OG Shadow Mirror Universe

3. Endless Frontier

4. Kogoro and Mii's home universe

>>14741726
>Except that one for Strike Freedom's METEOR in Z1. What the fuck happened there?
I'm still not sure what peoples' problem with that one is. I think Kira and Lacus both actually look better than in the show.

Might not be the right place to ask but can anyone find the RAWs for Getter Robo Hien vol 4? I just want to see the Gravion-like evolved Getter in action.

>>14740743
>Great Throne in OG
Oh yess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjfqkMOBZkE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWEKP7w6ws

>these play next game as last second Steel Dragon saving the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nk0ZVe8ltU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjIpYaaemjk

>>14741864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZXbgGgNWvw

>Hope's Bloom ver OG plays when Steel Dragons goes to finish off Lude Gloria & Galtdeus once and for all

Nice

>Raftclans can fly
>Granteed can't fly eventhough it fought Vaura on the Fury planet & Ruina on Earth

Thanks, Terada

>>14741894
Shh Basileus is sleeping

>>14741891
baka
OPs play during the final fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSn5-dYdMFg
this ver.OG

>SRWK's title theme is all over its soundtrack

>>14741897
You stupid BAKA

That one only plays when he's at the last 1/3 of his health

Just see OGMD Judgement plays when Zui Gadin is near its end, OG Destinies Ver 2 when Perfectio is gonna be put away etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmOb7ywktTs
>this plays when you fight against Lufia II secret boss

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>>14741896
Pls no disturb
He's had a very stressful day

>>14741909
And they're going to be playing Great Throne up until then.

>Music changes to Title Theme Remix/Jam Project when you are about to take out the final boss for the series
>Destinies Ver. 2, Victory, Judgement, Shining Storm

I love this

>>14741946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrn6yuG8fqQ

This is the reason why I bought OGII

Kira is the traitor and kills Lelouch,