I know Age has its share of problems and hate, but ho about the

Dirty Vagans have the most unique enemy designs in Gundam up to date without them being over the top like the circus mechs in Crossbone.

Also love the sheer amount of wears the AGEs have and it's dissapointing they only used like 1/5 of them and never even bothered to mix and match them.

>>14714366
Vagan designs were really nice.
OST was good.
AGE gundam had some great wears but it's a shame most of them stayed in the game only.

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Arisa. Of course she doesn't win the Asemubowl, but that's just a franchise rule.

AGE-1 is my favorite "remake" of the RX-78-2

Flit was a fun character.

Honestly it wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. IBO is worse for the moment but I also enjoyed it.

The only bad gundam i've seen is F91

Anyone who mentions Asemu or AGE-2 will be put up against the wall when the revolution happens.

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>>14714366
I've seen Zeta, Victory, and Bokurano and AGE is more depressing than all of those.

Grodek in S1 was one of the greatest characters in the entire history of the Gundam franchise.

Literally just some low level middle aged soldier who strongarms his way into authority because everyone else is just a weak willed shitter and then despite a complete lack of Jewtype powers or any support he uses deception, blackmail, and sheer guts to accomplish his goals because he really fucking hates aliens.

He was basically a dark, middle aged Bright and even his relationship with Flit, treating him like the vengeance-driven son he never had, was great. It was easily the highlight of AGE Gen 1 and it's incredible how AGE was so fucking rushed and treated its side cast like dogshit and even had Flit's week long romance with Urine which affected him for 60 years despite being so short was just montaged over but then Grodek was able to do so much.

10/10 character.

>>14714366
I actually liked Asemu's character arc, with all of his frustrations of trying to overcome the shadow of his father's and trying to surpass Zeheart, and eventually getting ahead of him.

AGE would have been fine with two character arcs instead of three. Would anyone really miss the Kio arc? Fuck.

>>14714697
>It was easily the highlight of AGE Gen 1 and it's incredible how AGE was so fucking rushed and treated its side cast like dogshit and even had Flit's week long romance with Urine which affected him for 60 years
They really should have had taken more away from Flit in the second arc.The hatred really should have had more fuel in there, as much as I like Flit as a character.

>>14714719

The problem with Asemu's arc is that in the grand scheme of things it contributed basically nothing to the show. His romance was also retarded because he showed no interest in Arisa, who actually got along with him, and instead chose to pursue AGE's Nina Purpleton.

And Zeheart is maybe the worst written Char of all time. Zeheart is in fact so badly written the movies specifically added in a scene to explain why he continues to even fight and even then it was stupid as fuck and made him look like he was suffering from some kind of mega-schizophrenia.

I liked Asemu too once I got over his dumb haircut and wish that AGE hadn't just absolutely shat on him. I will never forget how they had that godawful Girard Spriggan arc and then Girard was going insane and giving every single X-Rounder a super freakout, and I was thinking "wait a second isn't this EXACTLY the kind of situation that would call for the intervention of someone without X-Rounder powers, like Asemu?" but then he did nothing so I guess he was just standing there with his thumb in his ass the whole time?

Not even bringing up how Kio raised the question "how come you left us for like 10 years and never attempted to make any kind of contact?" and Asemu's response was literally "uhhhhhh...."

>>14714729

I agree, it would have been nice if Urine had been worked in a little better in Gen 1 and then it was followed up by something in Gen 2 like a scene inserted somewhere of Flit being enraged the Vegan conspiracy killed Grodek, and having them terrorist bomb the Diva and kill Millais or something.

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>>14714366
The grunts looked slick af

>>14714729
They really should have done *anything* with 2nd Gen instead of that 16-episode void of nothing we got.

>>14714366
Grodek, as >>14714697 said, was pretty great. The whole thing of vengeance getting passed down to the next generation from him to Flit was really good.

Relatedly, there's a shot of old Flit leaning against a window and young Flit in the reflection that's really powerful. If the surrounding story was better, that would be a moment where the audience was hit with the weight of just how far he'd fallen.

>>14714719
Asemu's arc is the the one that could be removed without really altering much of the storyline.

You guys are way too forgiving of the dumb shit he gets up to in his arc. In comparison, he seems less like a Kamille and more like a Katz Kobayashi.

He makes Hathaway look smart, is what I'm saying.

His entire bullshit of crying over how he didn't get his father's X-Rounder powers is grating.

He's George Joestar, and there's a valid reason as to why you never got to see George Joestar.

>>14714763

Retard helmet, never forget.

>>14714766
Grirard Spriggan at least had a cool MS

What did X-Rounder Helmet give us

"UUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHH I WANNA BE LIKE DADDY"

Asemu fans go suck it.

>>14714786

Mari pls "suck it" is such crude language.
At least the AGE-2 was cool.

I really liked the first ED song.

>>14714763
Oh, nobody is saying that Asemu wasn't stupid. But where as Katz being dumb comes from him from being a upstart, Asemu's comes from his desperation.

At the end of Zeta Gundam, Katz botches two missions within a row between two episodes, and nobody even throws him in the brig. They literally have a "that's our Katz!"-equse conversation.
>>14714761
I think the issue was that with the third arc coming along, the second part eventually loses it's importance.

But as you've said, they could have fixed that by doing a bit more than killing off minor characters.
Maybe they could have had Flit's wife and daughter get killed, so in part 3, we can see how Asemu and Flit have changed because of it, and it'd also give a little better excuse as for why Asemu took his fight into deep space away from his family

AGE-2 battle theme was sick as fuck.

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The Dorado is the only good thing to have come out of this series. It's so sleek and sexy.

>>14714556
>without them being over the top like the circus mechs in Crossbone.

Correction.
Circus shit was Crossbone Ghost

Crossbone they're more like a weird hodgepodge of different design choices, up to and including a literal MS xenomorph and MAs that look like Dogatie was a big spender at a Buff Clan yard sale.

Action was good. Generally, things were constantly happening.

Flit was great as a human historical figure that had lots of issues that required aid from others, but ultimately lead the mankind through troubled period.

Movie's final dual between Asem and Zeheart kicked ass.

While ending needed bits from game's epilogue, for the mix of Gundam and Layton-eqsue elements (it was most prominent in 1st gen, though) the resolution was optimistic but still with healthy dose of realism. After a long war the insane leadership of enemy was killed, their army was defeated and people moved on to work how to solve remaining problems in the setting.

>>14714744
>Zeheart is in fact so badly written the movies specifically added in a scene to explain why he continues to even fight
Since the start he was fighting to let Vagan make Earth their Eden, while being troubled with his homolust towards Asem. There was nothing that needed explaining, it was you fags that went

>ZEHEART CONSTANTLY DOES QUESTIONABLE THINGS BUT WILL PREDICTABLY JOIN GOOD GUYS, AGE A SHIT
>Zeheart stays with Vegan for becoming the next leader
>HONORABLE ZEHEART DIDN'T DITCH EZELCANT, AGE A SHIT

You guys pride yourself for fapping your dicks to realpolitik ideas, but what was other Zeheart's option? Reveal all the shit Ezelcant has done, causing chaos in Vagan when they were already in Earth's sphere and Flit Asuno was stockpiling nukes to blow them up?

Instead, he stayed silent, became the legit successor, got a Gundam and moved on crushing Federation so he could dictate how the entire situation should be solved.
It just happened he didn't win.

>>14714938

Are you forgetting the hilarious ineptness of his command decisions and how he was hyped up as the greatest of all time only to be shredded by Assemu in about 4 seconds?

>>14714945
I never said he was a good leader, only that his decision for becoming the leader was consistent with his character and made perfect sense in his situation. He lost cuz he couldn't control his shit.

Crushing was retconned in the movie.

>>14714945
>only to be shredded by Assemu in about 4 seconds?

By that point, Zeheart was a broken mess.
His big plan of taking out all three Gundams with one strike just blew up his face, and all the Vagan people that ended up dying as a result was a waste.

So yeah, he went off the deep end, took off only wanting revenge, and got wrecked for it.

One thing I really liked, though, was the sequence where Zeheart just goes mad and has the ghosts of all his underlings just mocking him.

That was honestly pretty good.

>>14714366
First arc was okay, thanks to the captain. 2nd arc was okay thanks to Flit and Asemu. 3rd generation was a mistake.

>>14717490
And by Asemu's 2nd arc, I mean the mechs fights and him foreshadowing being immune to newtypes, that wasn't used in 3rd arc.

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This thing. First reaction is like "lol what a stupid looking- OH GOD IT JUST TORE THAT GUY IN HALF IS THAT A DRILL HOLY SHIT IT'S A MONSTER". Space lemon really was the best. All the Vagan designs, really, are a breath of fresh air in a franchise plagued by Zaku rehashes. Shit, Legilis may be my favorite Gundam design of all time.

AGE was really odd too, in that despite the kiddy-like characters its battle scenes were absolutely brutal, and its body count was beyond belief.

You had MS being literally ripped limb from limb, getting shot in the back as they tried to limp away, zipping around frantically and genuinely dogfighting with each other, Vagans using real tactics like shooting under doors and using mass-destruction weapons when shit didn't go as planned. The battles felt hectic and had legitimate weight, and we had plenty of grunt vs grunt porn.

That duality was really jarring, but I think time will be kind to it.

>>14717528
I also enjoyed the amount of focus the grunts got over the actual Gundams themselves.

What I also like was, by the time of the 3rd gen, you had side characters like Seric and Obright actually outshining the heroes.

>>14714744
>And Zeheart is maybe the worst written Char of all time.
He shouldn't even be a fucking Char in the first place. He's a fine rival character, but a poor Char. The reason why he wears that mask is so paperthin ("we made this mask for you to control your powers!") that he and Mister Bushido are tied with the 3rd worst Char of all. The only ones worse are Chronicle Asher and that Iron Mask from F91 (seriously, why is that F91 villain wearing a mask? Everyone knows who he is. Chars wear a mask to hide their identity; there's no point to the mask if everyone knows who you are).

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>>14714366
Who here remembers this hoax?

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>>14717545

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>>14717528

I AM THE LEMON ZESTER OF DESTRUCTION.

>>14717537

> there's no point to the mask if everyone knows who you are

People wear masks for other reasons all the time. They wear them for protection and entertainment on a daily basis. Medical reasons too. Which could include Iron Mask, since he's a cyber newtype if I recall and may be wearing the mask for enhancement purposes.

>>14717553

The thing about Zeheart is, he removed the mask at every single opportunity.

>>14717554

I wasn't actually talking about Zeheart. Which I would have thought obvious given I never mentioned him, but did mention another character by name.

I remember honestly enjoying gen 1 and I still think most of the designs are great, but I dropped AGE at around episode 20 (I remember it had Asemu and his class or whatever in a space station, and I think one of the kids got lost or something) due to boredom.

This thread is making me feel like it's worth going back to it thou, should I?

>tfw no gunpla kits for all the wears

>>14714366

Asemu's ass-kicking made no sense at all, though.

Like, what was he doing? Not thinking when he piloted? No, we see that he's not doing that. Does he get really worked up, so they can't read his mind? Not that, either.

He basically just keeps doing the same thing, and suddenly it works.

Actually, AGE is so stupid that the cavalcade of flaws just become increasingly obvious. Like, why the fuck did Asemu become a space pirate with the idea of KEEPING THE WAR GOING? Flit was Supreme Commander, they could've won in one generation! But no, Asemu deliberately sabotaged both sides - not to run black-ops missions for the good guys, but to make sure they kept fighting! It's like doing all you can to keep WWII going, when you're fighting for the Allies!

Hey, Flit instituted a purge, right? He was in charge of everything, right? So why is society so weak in Gen III? Shouldn't it be a completely militarized society with mass-produced Gundams, prepared to take the fight to the Veigan? Would that have really taken fourteen years? Why did Flit even quit his job? He could still pilot the AGE-1 and clearly isn't senile!

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>>14717947
>Why did Flit even quit his job?
by the gen 3, I'm pretty sure the federation was just seeing flit as some crazy old dude. its not like the vegen vs earth was no stop war for 60+ years it was on and off the entire time. they probably didn't see any issue. hence why at the start of gen 3 the vegens curbstomped the entire federation in a week

>>14717980

The thing is that at the end of Gen 2 Flit became the uncontested supreme commander of Earth and then in Gen 3 literally nothing fucking changed, Earth is at the exact same place they were a decade ago only now they have the Clanche.

You would think a guy like Flit, driven entirely by hatred and now supreme fucking commander of the entire world's military and hero of humanity with all dissidents purged, would have been able to accomplish more...

>>14717985
a lot can happen in a decade.

The AGE-2 and Dark Hound are the sexiest Zeta-types ever made.

>Ore wa supah pilotto!
>Ore wa supah pirotto!
Asemu's fights were the only fun things in arc 2 and 3. Especially when Flit was commanding them.

>>14717947
Asemu was immune to mind reading because that cyber newtype helmet damaged whatever in his head.

He could never use any newtype abilities since, but wasn't affected by them too.

>>14718138
Also, Asemu was trying to stop the war by preventing trading between sides and ambushing supply convoys.

>>14718138
>Asemu was immune to mind reading because that cyber newtype helmet damaged whatever in his head.
Eh? When was that explained?

>>14718150

The guy is just making shit up. The only reason ever given is because Asemu is, like Wolf, a SUPAA PAIROTT so he can do whatever. I assume "super pilot" just means you fly so daringly that X-Rounder powers can't predict it because it goes so against normal human nature. But at this point i've probably put more thought into it than AGE's staff did.

>>14718150
He stole the trophy cyber newtype helmet to become one. And an accident happened.

>>14717553
Iron mask might have looked freaky under the mask too, I mean he's supposed to be UC's spooky darth Vadereaque cyborg man

>>14717537

Iron Mask is one of the best Chars, actually.

The thing about Char is that Char is a charismatic and intriguing man, but ultimately a pathetic sociopath. A lot of people get lost in the charisma and a lot of Chars swing too far in either direction.

Iron Mask did the Char thing right. When we first meet Iron Mask he's visually impressive and he seems so powerful and merciless. But then we get to see what he looks like, and he looks like any soft, middle aged geezer. We see him shrug off a bullet to the head like it's nothing, but then we know that he's just a figurehead and that old fuck father in law is the real mastermind, while Iron Mask is just the strong arm.

And we get told repeatedly that Iron Mask was no one until he put on the mask(Bane?). Everyone who knows him tells him that without that mask on he can't do a fucking thing. He is even literally a cuck. And that's why he works so well. Because he's a scary, powerful, driven man, but he's weak and has no will of his own. He could only become something by casting away his pathetic real self and locking it behind a mask, and his cyber-newtype status shows that he had to throw away his humanity too. He's an idealist but the man behind the ideals is a loser and a shell. It's beautiful.

And we even get, at the end, that one shot during the credits where we see Iron Mask's mask alongside the F91's. F91 also has a mask, taking on the iconic Gundam face over its real face to become the hero of legend. The Gundam itself could be considered a mask for its pilot, who wields it as an extension of himself to accomplish noble goals, while Iron Mask is a coward who hides behind his mask because it's all that gives him power.

Zeheart a shit though.

>>14714855
I really loved the Vegan visor things. Their beepbeepbeep flash was pretty cool, and actually kind of menacing. I was so disappointed when the Vegan Gundam's visor opened and there was just normal gundam eyes underneath.

>>14718198
>We see him shrug off a bullet to the head like it's nothing, but then we know that he's just a figurehead and that old fuck father in law is the real mastermind, while Iron Mask is just the strong arm.
Uh, this is wrong but whatever, it's Iron Mask who's the real mastermind. His father in law was actually very chill.
>
And we even get, at the end, that one shot during the credits where we see Iron Mask's mask alongside the F91's. F91 also has a mask, taking on the iconic Gundam face over its real face to become the hero of legend. The Gundam itself could be considered a mask for its pilot, who wields it as an extension of himself to accomplish noble goals, while Iron Mask is a coward who hides behind his mask because it's all that gives him power.
That's actually a symbol of transhumanism, Iron Mask was looking to be more of a machine than human, while the F91 itself becomes more human due to the Biocomputer.

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>>14717947
>Hey, Flit instituted a purge, right? He was in charge of everything, right? So why is society so weak in Gen III? Shouldn't it be a completely militarized society with mass-produced Gundams, prepared to take the fight to the Veigan? Would that have really taken fourteen years? Why did Flit even quit his job? He could still pilot the AGE-1 and clearly isn't senile!
>>14717980
>>14717985
Maybe because Asemu died? When he died, Flit latched on to Kio and tried to be a good father figure. And he spent the last 5 years training Kio to pilot the gundam.

>>14717546
And I thought the AGE 2 couldn't get any better