/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #1108

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Did Kidou Senkan Nadesico ever star in a SRW game?

>>14708860
Is this a trick question

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>>14708860
A lot of times, actually. The Nadesico itself is ludicrously broken every time, without fail.

I'M
SPACE
WOMAN

>>14708860
Nadesico has appeared a couple of times in the SRW series.

From it's debut in A, to it's latest appearance in BX, it's still a favorite among fans.

>>14708867
Tfw couldn't use Nadesicos in AP because you needed to use the overpowered Supers to get anywhere.

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>>14708860
'I' refers to Impact. A Portable has the same number of series as A, so it would be redudant.

Prince of Darkness also featured in Suparobo Gakuen.

Those 2 Sega games are actually canon, and since GaoGaiGar uses the Silverion Hammer from Blockade Numbers in BX, why not?

>>14708881
>Tfw couldn't use Nadesicos in AP because you needed to use the overpowered Supers to get anywhere.
Its final MAP attack is actually pretty damn strong though you probably have to use some Rouse and Attune for it.

>>14708890
I wonder why Blockade Numbers and the colored Zwarths from a Dunbine video game don't get listed when SRW used them in BX. I could use stuff like that to extend the randomizer list a little bit further.

>>14708911
They might actually mean the Aesties

>Yamato and Nadesico finally in the same game
>It's the Z team
Why couldn't we have nice things?

>>14708911
The ship was fine. I'm talking more about the robuts.

>Demonbane finally in SRW
>it's a handheld
Why couldn't we have nice things?

>>14708922
about to fight XL-N in Ex Hard, what should I take into account to make that shit less painful?

>>14708922
>People wanted Demonbane in SRW

Why? It's awful.

>>14708925
have sex with your female copilot in the cockpit before the final battle

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>>14708919
>Yamato
>Nadesico
>Yamato Nadesico
oh shit

>>14708927
i'm assuming you watched the anime.

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>>14708912
I guess they count when the main characters of the game itself are used. Cross Ange and GGG games have MCs exclusive to them, for instance.

>>14708922
>Demonbane finally in SRW
>They didn't make a joke about Kurou's gigantic dong

>>14708931
It's awful in general.
Both the VN and Anime are shit.

>>14708929
b-but that would get us both killed!

>>14708935
what did you think was shit about the vn? It's just dumb fun if you like super robots.

>>14708933
Hmm, wonder if I could separate the Xenosagas and use those games you've listed as a way to extend things. So long as they got a little unique mecha action in them, they count.

Also your list in general seems like it's nicely comprehensive, wouldn't mind just having it on hand, too.

>>14708933
What was GGG's game MC?

>>14708922
It's a 3DS game which is voiced which is basically one of the biggest difference between handhelds and console games.

Besides, OGs has been the only SRW games in recent history that's console-focused rather than built on handheld with a console option (Z3 + the upcoming V) so.

Though I have to say - it's weird that UX's adaptation from the Anime is pretty much the only "complete" inclusion of Demonbane around. Anyone still want to write VN Demonbane in their fangames?

>>14708960
They barely even got most of the anime only shit, it still had the VN's final battle

>>14708925
Mind Blast wipes out the spirits it casts
Otherwise, the usual SRX spam'll do the job

>>14708935
I liked the anime's opening theme

>>14708964
Huh? I don't remember Kurou and Al wearing their god outfit in the final battle.

>>14708964
Well, I guess I was a bit misleading here, I mean complete in reference to UX being a completed product and not how much it took from the source.

The small handful of SRC projects I know that includes Demonbane all dead pretty early.

>>14708922
The handheld SRWs have been better than the console ones ever since the PS3 came around.

>>14708983
>bland boring standalone games with small series list and mediocre animations
>better than console at any point
what

Is Coustwell even worth getting and replacing one of the other J mechs with?

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>>14708954
Kazamatsuri Sumire (風祭スミレ), Age 19, works at a aquarium and is a old schoolmate of Gai. That's all info I could discern.

>>14708946
Well, my list has some personal 'divisions', instead of everything being divided by date alone, I may to need to edit a bit before showing it.

>>14708984
The handheld games have always been better, with @3 and Z being the only stand outs.

>>14708988
Definitely not Bellzeute.

Maybe Touya can use it for a couple of stages before Granteed is upgraded.

>>14709000

Granteed is already Dracodeus at that point.

>>14708988
It's hilariously strong, and makes a pretty good unit for Touya. Of course, he's forced in Granteed for the last few stages, so it can't stick around for endgame unless you're willing to pull Calvina out of the Fury Remover.

>>14708988
Coustwell is so much better than Granteed

>>14709000
>Definitely not Bellzeute.
But Brigandi's animations are so ugly.

>>14708998
Has Sumire ever been used as a man's name and I AM A MAN!

>>14709001
Doesn't have infinity calibur, though.

>>14708998
He's a guy.

>>14708988
Considering the Granteed spent half the game being one of the shittiest Supers in the game and the other half waiting for a mediocre finisher, yeah

>>14709006
>this meme again

>>14709012
It's not a meme if I believe it's true.

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>>14709007
>>14709011
Well, I guess the rule I follow in cases like these is correct then.

>>14709020
Well, with your help the list, however disjointed it has become, got nearly twenty new entries into it. Less than 80 series needed to have a full 1,000 different mecha and toku worth of a list.

Honestly given the lack of any real rules for this list, I could conceivably close that gap even further just by including every Kamen Rider and Sentai movie that came with each series, but that's probably a bit much. Plus those who play the RNG will have even more of a chance of their lists being stuffed with toku.

>>14709014
Sure it is. It just means you agree with a meme

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>>14709026
Well, ok then, let me piece it together then....

>>14709011
So he's a trap?

>>14709045
Uh, sure?

>>14708863
Except W. but that's because the Broken version of it isn't kept throughout.

also, W has a MASSIVE power creep that makes things like Meteor Freedom seem merely "Okay".

>>14709074
You get it back in the endgame, problem is that you have to use a deployment slot for it.

>>14708912
Probably because its included in the license and wasn't substantial to list on its own. They did the same thing with Astray R in W; they used the Regenerate but never had R listened in the cast list. Only the original Astray and X were listed in the list.

>>14708954
They're really isn't an MC for Blockaded Numbers. It's basically "Episodes" that didn't happen in the show proper.

That's the case until you start getting into the silly stuff like "What if the Zonders beat 3G?"

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>>14709092
There*

That's what I get for starting a line of thought and changing my mind and not wiping it out.

The cast list for W too;
http://www.suparobo.jp/srw_lineup/srw_w/character/index.html

>>14708935
So, you only watched the anime?

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For those who like to play, you know the drill. Celebrate the pointless milestone of surpassing 900 with me. (Also, a 5-series roll is an option now, for those who want a mini-list that might have something sensible able to be made out of it.)

>>14709103
If they had just replaced Toei Getter with Shin vs Neo, W'd've been perfect

Somehow I accidentally let Latooni become my top ace in 2nd, what do I do about this

>>14709110
Can I get a tenner?

>>14709110
SRW VW - The Wrath of the Space Vampires / I totally misplanned my naming theme please just kill me now

Forever a Z3 experience.

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>>14709110
BTW, here is my list as requested.

The Big O opening starts playing when I finished it.

>>14709113
Same thing I did when Lamia took top ace in 2nd
Let the killing machine have her fun

>>14709114
ウルトラマンティガ (Ultraman Tiga)
機動戦士ガンダム0083 STARDUST MEMORY (Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory)
ミュータントタートルズ 超人伝説編 (Mutant Turtles: Superman Legend)
ソラトロボ -それからCODAへ- (Solatorobo: And Then, to CODA)
魔法の少尉ブラスターマリ (Magical Ensign Blaster Mari)
ほしのこえ (Voices of a Distant Star)
ゼノギアス (Xenogears)
ガンダムビルドファイターズトライ (Gundam Build Fighters Try)
ソルティレイ (SoltyRei)
熱血最強ゴウザウラー (Nekketsus Saikyou Gosaurer)

Ha, someone finally rolled one of the goofier entries.

>>14708966
>Mind Blast wipes out the spirits it casts

fuck, really?

>>14709119
>ソルティレイ (SoltyRei)
Did that show even have mecha in it?

>>14709119
>Stardust Memory
>Xenogears
>Try
>Gosaurer
At least I got some things I vaguely recognise and a ship.
Could you rig your RNG to always include at least one series that could contribute a Ra Cailum, by the way?

>>14709115
スーパーロボット大戦64 (SRW 64)
仮面ライダーフォーゼ (Kamen Rider Fourze)
サクラ大戦3~巴里は燃えているか~ (Sakura Taisen 3: Pari wa Moete iru ka?)
超合体魔術ロボギンガイザー (Chougattai Majutsu Robo Ginguiser)
バトルガレッガ (Battle Garegga)
ゴジラ対ヘドラ (Godzilla vs. Hedorah)
キカイダー01 (Kikaider 01)
巨神ゴーグ (Giant Gorg)
機動戦士ガンダム THE ORIGIN (Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin)
メタルスレイダーグローリー (Metal Slader Glory)
新スーパーロボット大戦 (Shin SRW)
真ゲッターロボ世界最後の日 (Shin Getter Robo Armageddon)
スーパーロボット大戦R (SRW R)
デビルマン対ゲッターロボ (Devilman vs Getter Robo)
VS騎士ラムネ&40炎 (VS Knight Ramune & 40 Fire)
宇宙円盤大戦争 (Uchuu Enban Daisenso)
勇者エクスカイザー (Brave Exkaiser)
勇者特急マイトガイン (Brave Express Might Gaine)
ゴジラ対メガロ (Godzilla vs. Megalon)
機動戦士ガンダム00F (Mobile Suit Gundam 00F)
最終兵器彼女 (Saikano: The Last Love Song on This Little Planet)
デビルマン (Devilman)
機動戦士ガンダム00 (Mobile Suit Gundam 00)
無限のリヴァイアス (Infinite Ryvius)
アスタブリード (Astebreed)

>>14709126
Yep. Works on Gu too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTj-YNFwJQk

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Who is the best to hold Ing down, gently but irresistibly kissing and stroking him to a furious climax until he's beyond speaking and can only sob in pleasure?

>>14709167
Excellen.

Are the Dendrobiums, the Sytron units, and Seolla and Arado the only units in OG that have a different theme that plays for their strongest attack? I just realized it's actually a pretty uncommon thing and I can't think of any others that do that

>>14709167
Viletta.

>>14709167
Amara.

>>14709174
R-1, R-2, and R-3.

>>14709167
How old is he anyway?

>>14709174
Valzacard will have 2 different themes also

>>14708851

Are there any good places where I can find full-sized renditions of the Banpresto original mechs?

Curious how the mechs would look in none SD form since I've been playing a lot of SRW OG for the GBA lately and really digging it so far.

>>14709170
>>14709176
>>14709179
>not Irm

You're all wrong.

>>14709210
Your best bet is either concept art, Model kit art, or the shows.

>>14709213
>>14709210
Or those artbooks that come with the games.

>>14709210
Infinite battle.

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I beat MD just a few hours ago. Rather enjoyed it, and I found XN-L tougher than Gu-Landon, but I still think Helluga was the toughest boss in the game. That said, I got mostly lucky with the RNG on XN-L's attacks and only lost Rai-Oh, mainly because I hadn't maxed his armor and mobility. Just seemed silly because Carla in the Seigerlion and Gilliam in his RV managed to dodge everything despite me just using them as fodder for the last stage. I finished XN-L off with a twined Compati Kaiser and Dracodeus team. Thought it was appropriate.

>>14709233
>422k hp
fuck this guy in ex hard

>>14709233
>Only 3 upgrade bars

lol what's the big deal XN-L seems super easy

>>14709186
Probably three or so.

>>14709233
>I finished XN-L off with a twined Compati Kaiser

It's his game, after all.

>>14709233
I made sure Touya finished it off with Infinity Calibur, it seemed appropriate

Imo Helluga was only hard because you had to deal with Baran Schnile at the same time, and Gu-Landon was a little tougher overall because of spirit spam

>>14709246
...Don't tell Lune.

>>14709186
He's basically a fucking baby.

>>14709167
Burn in hell, faggot.

>>14709255
>Helluga was only hard because you had to deal with Baran Schnile
this
I killed him yesterday in ex hard by sniping him with Calvina. By the time he reached 50% I lowered his morale to 50, placed everyone else around and him and finished him off for good in the next turn

the real problem is the Baran Schnile and her bioroids, who thankfully, are beefy but do not have high defenses

>>14709258
No no, DO tell Lune. Tell her as soon as possible.

>>14709280
But that would be lewd, anon! It might give smut-writers ideas.

>>14709242
If she hits you, that person can not use spirits
Acts 3 times a turn,
spams spirits including Strike, Confuse, iron wall, zeal,
has a MAP

That's it.

I'm enabling my limiters.

You lot are clearly unworthy of witnessing me at my full power.

My allergies are acting up and I can't even focus while playing Touhou SRW. Please send help.

>>14709287
the MAP can be avoided as long as you don't kill one of the lamalices in range of that attack
but can you dispell his spirits once he casts them with Mind Blast?

>>14709288
Which game?
Because if all else fails in 2, you can just max out reimu's evasion and be fine.
If in 3, make it so your teams have dodge tanks hooked to actual tanks

>>14709296
3.

The issue isn't the gameplay, I'm just feeling super sick due to my allergies and having a hard time paying attention to anything.

I might go watch something as a change of pace.

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>>14709300
Hope you get better soon.

>>14709303
SAKUYA'S GAME

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Rate

>>14709307
No abusing Kanako or Suwako's ability to get stronger with Sanae?
Also, no dai/koa?

>>14709307
Not SRW/10

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>>14709307

>>14709310
I was using Dai/Koa up until when Eirin joined. The first one especially with Cirno for the friendship bonus stacking.

Kanako/Suwako eat up a bit too much space but then again I shouldn't be complaining when i'm using so many 3.5s. Team needs revision for the final Okuu fight.

>>14709307
> wasting China at the back of a squad

>>14709318
China takes over in the front when its time for the boss. Sakuya kills things harder for mooks.

>>14709314
Well, you could be doing worse with 3.5's and be trying to level everyone like I tried to do on my first run. I'm still salty about Yuuka.
And that reminds me, you've made sure to give flan her parasol, right? Forgetting to do that before yorihime was very painful for me.
Also, why aren't you using Keine?

>>14709327
Flan doesn't need her Parasol when Rumia gives her the S Rank Night for free. Keine's benched because she's fallen off a bit too hard for my liking. Can't tank too good and doesn't do enough damage.

>>14709327
with Rumia in the back, Flan does not need the parasol

>>14709329
>Flan doesn't need her Parasol when Rumia gives her the S Rank Night for free.
Completely forgot about that.
>Keine's benched because she's fallen off a bit too hard for my liking. Can't tank too good and doesn't do enough damage.
Fair enough.

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>>14709300
Stop.

NeilMed Sinus Rinse Kit.

I have omgwtf allergies myself. Listen to me. I am telling you.

There is no medication.
There is no fancy procedure.
Absolutely, nothing, that compares to this shit right here.

Look. I get it. Your allergies really are THAT bad. I have the same issue. I've tried everything under the sun, some work better than others, but nothing REALLY, works.

Except for this shit right here.

"But my netipot didn't do muc-"
STFU right there.

This isn't quite the same. This allows you to squeeze the bottle and use the exact amount of pressure you want AND it allows you to keep your face upright, MASSIVELY increasing effectiveness several fold.

If you've never used a netipot, don't worry about it. This shit's a similar concept but even better. Here's how it works. The warm saline water is shot up INTO YOUR NOSTRIL AND IT + ALL THE CRAP COMES OUT THE OTHER. Yeah. That's right.The saline shoots ALL the goop in your sinuses out the other nostril. Yes, it goes in one nostril, out the other. It's AWESOME. ALL of it comes out.


You mix the packets into the water. For really bad allergies, I recommend using it twice, once with 1.5x the recommended amount (3-4 packets basically) and again with .5-1x the recommended amount (1-2 packets).


It doesn't just rinse out the crap clogging the sinuses.The supertonic saline you create via the combination of these various salts literally RIPS the goop, the nasty shit, OUT of your mucus membranes. The stuff causing the allergic reaction, the mucus and the excess fluid in the membranes is all removed. Not only that, it acts as an astringent, closing up those membranes and stopping the MASSIVE MUCUS PRODUCTION that us super allergy victims must suffer with.

This is the answer. It only lasts about 3 hours. However, the effect is almost instant and it's SUPER effective. Even after symptoms return they will be dramatically reduced for most of the day after a single treatment with this stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11XjMplfTd4

>>14709347
why

>>14709336
I used to see these in pharmacies back when I lived in Seattle WA and they really were life savers for the rare time when my allergies kicked in

but I've never really seen them over here.

I appreciate your worry, Anonymous.

>>14709336
Does it do anything to curtail chronic nosebleeds?

Mostly for reference, I already had my nostril cauterized but boy does it not stop my nose from trying to open the bloody floodgates anyway.

>>14709350
Since Mario went to iPhone he probably wants to see how hard Sony will get """"BTFO""". He's from /v/ most likely.

>>14709354
So what you're saying is that Bahrain is an untapped market?
I'll keep that in mind for the next expansion focus meeting

>>14709358
Are you stupid or what? SRW games are on PS4, of course this is for people that want to buy a PS4 for SRW games

>>14709336
My mother had problems with her paranasal sinuses, this actually helped.

>>14709359
Is Dr. Mehta's miracle nasal cure supporting your SRW hobby

>>14709248
You did twin with Guilliam, RIGHT?

>>14709233
Helluga was stupid. His SR point was harder than him, but his total accuracy before potential is just 486 with no HP Regen. You can plink him down without risk if you've got something that can take one undefended hit nd one defending. Or if you're not on EX Hard it's not hard for stuff like Galilnagant to have literally 0% to be hit. Pair Amala and Shu and dip them in and out and it's literally impossible to lose.

PS4 PRO ANNOUNCED

THANK YOU BASED SONY

MOON DWELLERS GAMING SOON

>>14709376
CHEAP SECOND HAND PS4S EVERYWHERE SOON
THANK YOU BASED SONY

>>14709375
Bonus points if you're a cheeky cunt and put a high performance radar or a high performance CPU on Soulsaber GG with a range+ ability equipped and just plink her boss to death from outside its range.

>>14709336
I remember once I had this thing where everywhere I went there was this bizarre and horrible smell stuck in my nose, and it made eating unpleasant and was just downright awful to deal with, probably due to a sinus infection or something

This shit was the only thing that helped and cleared it right out

I can testify that this shit works

>>14709376
NO
O

Since it was being discussed earlier, have to point out: The PS2 Dunbine game is NOT in BX. As it turns out, Red Zwarth actually does show up in Dunbine. No one remembered it because it and its pilot are very minor things.

As someone who spread that initially, I feel compelled to apologize and make up for it.

>>14709376
You'll need that high power GPU to properly experience this PS3 game

>>14709406
What about the white one, though?

>>14709411
The white one was in Dunbine for sure, I remember that. Its pilot had slightly more presence.

>>14709409
Are you stupid or what? Not everyone bought the original PS4, the PS4 Pro makes much more sense to get

>>14709419
Makes more sense to buy a used original PS4 now if you're mainly interested in things like SRW and weeb games, since 90% of worthwhile PS4 exclusives didn't really push the hardware to begin with

I guess the extra couple hundred dollars will be worth it for slightly better framerates in Bloodborne though

>>14709425
If you want to play 900P sub 30FPS in other games, that's your choice

Everyone else that didn't get the original PS4 gets a better console for slightly more than the PS4 Slim($299), not couple hundred dollars more

>>14709430
Why would I play other games on my PS4 when I have a PC though

Honestly if not for SRW I probably would've sold this thing already, especially since Nier Automata is confirmed for PC now

>>14709419
It's not going to beat the performance of a Neo Geo so I'm sticking with my old PS4.

>>14709376
Did they put a release date?

>>14709354
Do you need someone to mail you a few packs? I live in Seattle, I could totally make sure some get to you for cost+shipping. (I promise package will not actually contain the black death)

>>14709441
That's really sweet, but no, thank you.

By the time it gets here, I'll be back on my feet.

Unless you just want to send me the black death, then by all means go ahead.

Don't expect me to pay for it, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjgZ7nopd94

>The Soushi
>The Kazuki

>>14708946
In theory, you could make the various games appear in sequence in a set of 3 games but they really didn't get a whole lot of mecha action until 2 or so. 1 had the A.G.S. units (pronounced eggs) which are terrible and never really come up plot wise, so most of the units would likely be on foot like Kos-Mos or Ziggy. Not to mention the plot for 1 just sort of stops without a real conclusion. Considering that, you might actually be better off making a single game have both 1 and 2, just to have some sort of conclusion when they eventually do end and give them the E.S. Units to build up to.

>>14709448
AGWS. Anti-Gnosis Weapon Systems.

Also they were totally worth it. Acquiring them unlocked them in the totally-not-virtual-on multiplayer minigame.

PS4 Pro, available Nov 10th, $399

>>14709447
YOU'RE THE

>>14709451
Ah, right, thank you. I couldn't remember the exact term, I just remember hearing EGGS a lot. Been a while.

And I meant more like they don't really...matter in the plot, like the E.S. Units do. They're fine themselves and they were useful but they definitely weren't the focus and they just sort of stopped existing come 2.

>>14709448
Well, for the sake of the list I've added them in separately, since so many other things get separated into different spin-offs/episodes.

Probably should remove the part of it that's just "Xenosaga" in general, but maybe that could stand as rolls to suggest it uses the whole series if someone doesn't roll specific entries.

I didn't realize this was /v/

>>14709460
You need a console to play SRW, if you didn't realize that yet

>>14709460
Let him be.

He's too shy to post on /v/ so he posts here where he feels comfortable.

I can assure you that it's very kawaii.

>>14709458
I don't think having the individual games is an issue, since having just 1 would still leave you with the EGGS and Kos-Mos, and since each game more or less has it's own mechs attached to it, with 2 and 3 doing redesigns on every single E.S. unit for some reason. I'd say do both, although the thought of a single game doing the entirety of Xenosaga's plot is a mind boggling concept. I can only imagine the text dumps.

>>14709461
Oh boy I really need that swanky new version of this console to play my turn based strategy games!

>>14709466
Maybe the Nadesico crew can help out with the exposition. "The How and Why of Xenosaga."

>>14709472
>"The How and Why of Xenosaga."

Now there's a crossover that I'd wanna see happen. Bring out Shion in a Gnosis suit to try and dumb down the Gnosis enough for the crew to understand and you've got a deal.

>>14709467
PS4 is discontinued, there's only PS4 Slim or PS4 Pro now, keep being an asshole though, I guess this is how you behave in real life, hopefully someone will punch out every teeth you have

https://youtu.be/EySH0DBp05I?t=1m12s

Basically me.

>>14709448
Anticlimactic endings that don't provide sufficient conclusion are a recurring issue with the series, really.

>>14709492
OK yeah I'll give you that, but 1 was especially bad about that, as it wasn't even anticlimactic, just a cliffhanger. 2 at least tried to have a sufficient "ending" in the sense that you knew more was coming but it was good enough for a conclusion to an arc.

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>>14709453
FESTUM

>>14709486
Spoken like a true /v/irgin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3vGrT-RiPE

GUNDAM!

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>>14709467
This is good news, faggot. Now the fat PS4 will be a lot cheaper. Now it's the time to get a PS4 for your Supa Robos

>>14709485
You know they'd drag KOS-MOS into it somehow, too.

>>14709512
KOS-MOS and Hoshino Ruri

Friends for suitably valid reasons.

>>14709486
Lrn2english. You can punch out all of someone's teeth, or punch out every tooth they have, but you can't punch out every teeth someone has you fucking retard.

Should I put Latooni in the Wildraubtier, the Ashsaver, or the Fairlion? I can't decide

>>14709528
Ashsaver. That way if you have a route split where you can't use her you still get to use it.

>>14709528
Fairylion for dat combo attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TUTHvc2gD0

Let's do this before I get too old for this shit, Grungust Nishiki.

Three days from retirement and I get paired with a sucker like you. Let's give it our all, Grungust Nishiki.

After this is done, you can come home and try out my wife's cooking, Grungust Nishiki.

>We get a Gaiden game
>But only because they don't want to waste an entire game on W's first half and making the SRX Team job

What else would you put in it?

>>14709670
>W's first half
Tokusatsu Taisen, because we needed a Tekkaman Blade and Orgun stand-in for their plots and they're "literal who" enough to fit perfectly into a gaiden with no one getting upset.

>>14709679
That's the one with the mechnical hero and organic hero right?

Could be interesting enough and almost everyone would see them like Ing in terms of are these guys really from an older game/manga?

How did Banpresto get so good at designing mechas? At this point I like OG designs more than 90% of actual anime robots and there are so many OGs where I wish they had an entire anime about them because I'd watch the shit out of it

>>14709685
Yeah, that's the one. The organic one is called Vortex while the mechanical one is called Luciferd, with each having a female love interest that also transforms. Apparently the mechanical route has them start as wanted criminals out to clear their name while the bio route has the two being captured, modified by some evil organization and escaping before being conditioned. Luciferd could work pretty well as an Orgun stand-in while Vortex would fit perfectly as a Blade one. I can imagine the only problem would be the lisencing since I'm not entirely sure if they own the characters 100%.

>>14709693
> I wish they had an entire anime about them
Go watch The Inspector

>>14709693
>How did Banpresto get so good at designing mechas?
>FileSaver
>any and all Atreem mechs
>SoulSaber
>Garmraid
>Asclepios
>Coustwell
>That generic as fuck PT from OE
>Good
Let's not get ahead of ourselves now.

>>14709693
I mean, don't they just hire established designers to do designs for any of em?

>>14709693
They hired the people that worked on the shows.

I don't know who designed what, outside of the really obvious ones, but I do know that they hired

>Ebikawa
>Okawara
>Katoki
>Obari

among many others that I'm too sick to remember right now.

>>14709716
>>14709693
https://exhentai.org/g/835713/05dda701d6/
There's also this.

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>>14709721
What

how is this possible

I thought you needed a special membership to enter this site

It's a porn site, why do I have access to a porn site

This is haram, Anonymous.

Please do not toy with my computer, I don't know how to fix this.

>>14709727
Merry christmas Sahib, enjoy all your access to loli and shota doujins I suppose. I forgot how I got access to it so many years ago but oh well

Also spoiler that shit, there's alot of lewds in that gallery.

>>14709711
But I like most of those

Basic Garmraid is one of my favorites even, it has a heavy "70s super robot" vibe to it

>>14709711
>That generic as fuck PT from OE

Dude, Exert was like one of the best parts of OE. The fact that it was absurdly powerful didn't hurt.

>>14709693
>How did Banpresto get so good at designing mechas?

What the fuck? They never did. The good ones are the exception, not the rule.
They're too busy using legitimately shitty designers over the less-than-a-handful of good designers that they have.

>>14709716
I don't think they've ever hired Ebikawa. I wish they did, though.
You're probably confusing him with Yanase.

>>14709727
>>I thought you needed a special membership to enter this site
No?
You make an account on e-h and then got to ex just fine.

>>14709736
>it has a heavy "70s super robot" vibe to it
I don't recall any 70's robot with saw shins and jaw shoulders anon.
>>14709741
>Exert was like one of the best parts of OE.
Matt, I'm really having a hard time deciding if this is actually a compliment considering OE.

http://superrobotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Designers_of_the_Banpresto_Originals

>>14709741
Exert is about as bland as you could hope to make a mecha in both design and movepool. The only thing worthwhile about it is the MUCUS sidekick it has, but even then, that quality is only tangentially related to Exert at best.

>>14709758
>Matt, I'm really having a hard time deciding if this is actually a compliment considering OE.

It isn't normally, but Exert is actually pretty damn cool. Generic it may be, but it's really neat.

Even assuming it doesn't get its Breakthrough in OG (because it probably won't) it'll probably be bullshit strong even in that environment. Although given that Varsage dies at the end of the game, there might be a "MK mechs losing the spirits" problem.

>>14709711
The K units (assuming you're referring to the just the protag units) aren't bad by themselves. It's that mess of a combination that's awful.

At the very least, Regina could've been a centaur instead of whatever the hell it ended up being.

>>14709727
>he doesn't know how to sadpanda
fuck off sahib

>>14709711
But none of those are as terribly boring as the Rushbird

>>14709760
>in both design and movepool.

There's not actually that many mechs that have a MAP and a Breakthrough at the same time, and most need to transform to do it.

After checking, only Dark/Rune Knight Steru, King Squasher, the Sazabi (which is shit), Wing Zero, Tallgoose, Gurren Seiten 8 Elements, and the RSC Scopedog have both without transforming. 8 total units out of like 95 or so.

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>Melua calls Granteed Dracodeus Kono Ko and gets translated as baby

TOP KEK

>>14709744
I think the K upgrade is the only unit who I thought looked bad, I don't see what the problem is

>>14709769
>Centaur
If they ever fixed Regina, it'd end up looking more like a girl mech than a centaur.

>>14709769
>aren't bad by themselves

Oh yes they are.
Serkerius is the only one worth a shit by pure design. The Serius mechs are just visually pathetic, proportionally akin to a weak underdeveloped child, and Revilias wouldn't be so bad if not for that dumb torso and waist. By silhouette, the thing's waist is a literal box with the pecs being two more boxes pasted to the top. It honestly wouldn't be so bad if the thing's waist had some sort of slant to it.

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>>14709790

>>14709786
I'm not talking about gameplay, though.
Movepool, as in, what it does conceptually, as opposed to mechanically in relation to OE.

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WHAT'S THIS I DON'T EVEN

>>14709798
Not many OGs get to use their space alien subpilot as a summon attack. And its a proper alien and not a humanoid alien.

>>14709791
It's no wonder that you can't see what the problem is. You're clearly blind if you think Regina and Rex are the only bad designs they've put out.

>>14709801
Refer to
>>14709760
>The only thing worthwhile about it is the MUCUS sidekick it has, but even then, that quality is only tangentially related to Exert at best.

>>14709805
And that Mucus sidekick is more unique than say what Rushbird or what a decent amount of the OGs that Z put ou.

>>14709798
>Movepool, as in, what it does conceptually

How many mechs in OG have wing mounted ammo packs for their guns that are disconnected from their spot and laser guided into the gun? How many have massive alien buddies for summon attacks? It's not a horribly large number.

I'm having trouble thinking of the number of wrist rockets in OG too, but there probably are more of those.

>>14709802
Name one

>>14709811
>How many mechs in OG have wing mounted ammo packs for their guns that are disconnected from their spot and laser guided into the gun?

HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE THIS MECH RELOADS ITS GUN IN A DIFFERENT WAY HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS GROUNDBREAKING JESUS CHRIST

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>>14709813

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7xXFz4MVvo

>>14709811
>How many have massive alien buddies for summon attacks?

See
>>14709760

>>14709810
I won't deny that, but that's more of a testament to the alien than anything else.
Take away the alium and what do you get?

>>14709819
Looks like Vysaga, Soulgain and a Valsion put together

>>14709824
Less Valsion, more Soleares

>>14709811
>disconnected from their spot and laser guided into the gun

That's actually a critical flaw unless its got more than one stash now that I think about it.

If you take out the wings, it basically loses a lot of its offensive capabilities.

>>14709823
>Take away something that's meant to be part of the unit's package and what do you get.

So, I've been playing SaGa Frontier, and I just got the Omega body for T260G.

...and it has V-MAX. Just straight-up V-MAX, complete with the blue aura ramming attack. How in the world did they get away with that? fuck yes i love the omega body

>>14709823
>Take away the alium and what do you get?

Still significantly more interesting shit than what happens when you take away Virgora's gun.

>>14709831
>If you take out the wings, it basically loses a lot of its offensive capabilities.

It still has all the Varsage attacks, all the sword attacks, the normal gun attacks, and the wrist missiles.

It'd be a lot slower, of course, but you took out its wings, what did you fucking expect would happen?

>>14709811
>How many mechs in OG have wing mounted ammo packs for their guns that are disconnected from their spot and laser guided into the gun?
I haven't played much of OE, but I remember seeing that in its attacks and thinking that it looked pretty fucking slick.

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>>14709831
And? What point is that making? If you want practicality over style I've got the perfect OG mecha for you.

Also, most things are fucked if you take away their goddamn mobility. It's like complaining in battletech that you cn't dodge anymore if the enemy takes out your legs.

>>14709843
The entire concept of SaGa is reusing concepts from other games, series, and even designs.

Hell, all the equipment designs and icons from Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song come from FFXI.

>>14709853
VF I will slap you if you keep it up

>>14709832
Destiny is a really cool robot because of Legend's DRAGOONs.

>>14709843
>How in the world did they get away with that?
it's just a reference
2 of ACE3's mechs have V-MAX attacks too

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>>14709856
I'll just counter with my demon slaying blade, Makaimura.

>>14709860
Has there been an edit of the sword scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark where a paper bag is put over the man's face

>>14709846
>Still significantly more interesting shit than what happens when you take away Virgora's gun.

I won't deny that, however.
A gun
An alien

One of these is a tool.
One of these is not.

>>14709858
Yeah, but...it's actually CALLED V-MAX in SaGa Frontier.

>>14709865
The gun is the source of Virgola's entire moveset. The alien is two attacks and a subpilot.

These are not comparable in the slightest.

>>14709865
Of course, a gun is a weapon not a tool, but an alien is a living thing, which can be manipulated into acting as a tool

>>14709848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48MRWkQ8DoU

Exert is overall pretty slick.

>>14709858
>2 of ACE3's mechs have V-MAX attacks too

As does God Keron.

For which it is literally called "Kero Max".

>>14709868
>These are not comparable in the slightest.

Is that not what I just said?

>>14709875
I meant to reply to Matt instead.

>>14709869
A weapon is a tool.

>>14709824
>Looks like Vysaga, Soulgain and a Valsion put together
>>14709827
>Less Valsion, more Soleares
Amusingly that is because Balgias, Vysaga, Soulgain AND Soleares were all designed by the same person.

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>>14709843
>How in the world did they get away with that?
Kawazu meme magic

>>14709883
Ask yourself what happens when you bring a tool to a swordfight.
>>14708239
I'm not an erotic role player! I still have hope!
>>14708313
Can you blame me?
>>14708426
When I first played ff2, I played it straightforward, it never game me difficulty. I subsequently did more playthroughs to grind sheerly for masochism's sake.

>>14709905
>Ask yourself what happens when you bring a tool to a swordfight.

A Sword forged by Tools is a Sword to be destroyed by Tools

There in lies the way of the sword.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb4B5hMMhuY

>>14709914
and that's why you bring a tool to a toolfight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApO-n7fDHeY

>>14709914
SAYA-SAN

HELL STRINGER

>>14709921
>Saya-san
>Not using the Lv.3 Arnie version

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>>14709799
Death.

Pure undiluted death & destruction, it is but one part of the holy trinity of SRW K.

Our greatest son and saviour Kira Jesus Yamato who delivered us salvation.

Vann the embodiment of the holy spirit as conceived by Dann of Thursday. The most high which will overshadow you and everything it touches.

Hear, O /srwg/! The Lord is Mist Rex, the Lord is one! Go forth and make disciples of nations and baptize them so they may be better on Atreem!

So yeah. Solvrias Rex is really fucking overpowered.

>>14709924
It can't be helped.

The Sahib's soul isn't howling nor does his life's radiance shine.

I was thinking about what would happen if Richard got an expanded role in OG, but then I realized that he would just be an Ishigami expy.

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Will the Masou Kishin crew come back in the next OG game

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>>14709971

>>14709955
Doesn't his backstory end up being pretty important even after he dies?

>>14709971
>>14709974
Cool Gundams.

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>>14709905
>Ask yourself what happens when you bring a tool to a swordfight.
You win because a hammer doesn't just forge swords. A hammer forges a man.

>>14710001
OG when?

>>14710001
Are there any OG robots with hammers? And by hammers I don't mean maces, I mean fucking mallets, like Gaogaigar Goldion Hammer "hammers".

>>14709703
>Apparently the mechanical route has them start as wanted criminals out to clear their name
This is a little off. Luciferd really was a space criminal, but only because he was brainwashed by the OG villains (his evil family, think Tekkaman Blade). Luciferd's sidekick is also his robot maid.

Also it's Voltex because he's powered by Vol Cells. As in eVOLve. The game is actually pretty clear about how that name should be translated. There are even a couple other Vol villains like Volfeed.

It would be cool to see them in OG though. A Guyver Gigantic style upgrade for Voltex could be awesome. Could have the Vol Cells be developed from Machine Cells too.

So what bonuses should V-MAX and its variants give?

The regular and V-MAX Layzners are completely different units so practically anything's fair game.

>>14710001
GUNVALD when?!

How would you go about bullying Alfimi?

>>14710020
+15 mobility
+2 movement
All weapons get a +20% crit boost.

>>14710027
I'd bully her with my dick

>>14710028
>+15 mobility
You do know which game you're suggesting this for right?

>>14710027
I want excellen to bully me

>>14710018
Oh, neat. I just got that off a wiki so I wasn't sure how accurate it was anyway. Thanks for clarifying.

>Luciferd's sidekick is also his robot maid.

Sounds a lot better than I was thinking. Hurry up Banpresto, I want these in HD.

>>14710014
What is Gunleon?

>>14710030
Yes and it's not really a problem.
Also fuck you V-Max is about going fast so just let the Layzner go fucking fast.

>>14710036
I think anon actually wants things to target Laynzer.

>>14710034
>nail guns
>wrenches
>chainsaws

No hammers.

Who's up for some Dodgeball?

>>14710018
> Volfeed
Is it a hot maid spaceship?

Guys, I thinks it's time we realize that the Angelg is everything wrong with the mecha genre. It's everything that Gurren Lagann and Evangelion should be teaching us to move away from.

>>14710036
+15 Mobility doesn't fix the problem at all unless you take a huge shit on its original mobility stat instead.

Eiji's problem wasn't that he couldn't dodge. His problem was that nothing attacks him because he's too evasive and his damage is quite underwhelming.

>>14710050
>evangelion
>mecha

>>14710050
The only thing wrong with Angelg is that it doesn't have breast missiles.

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>https://srw.wiki.cre.jp/wiki/ヒーローマン
>WHITE SHINE

Am I reading this correctly?
Does this actually say that Heroman and Joey are irregulars in the timeloop born from humanity's stacked desire for a Hero in the loop?

>>14710020
S ranks in air and space
+450 attack power for all weapons
+10 mobility
+1 movement

What's the deal with the Fortitude + Barrier bug in OGMD? I was messing around with it, and it only seems to work with Orgone Cloud and Orgone Cloud S, for some reason.

>>14710068
>450
What a weird number, Eiji's on the 1100 tier so I assume that you mean 500.

>>14710072
It also work with E-Field and TE Sphere

>>14709843
>How in the world did they get away with that?

Japan tends to like homages to other works as long as you don't outright say the name. They see it as flattery.

>>14710079
>1100
800 then

>>14710085
J uses 900/1000/1100/1250. +800 is basically akin to giving Eiji a near 10 bar fub.

>>14710092
And?
+1900 is standard for S sized reals in mainline games.

Just balance enemy HP/armor with that in mind.

>>14710092
What are they at 15?

>>14710092
And it would help Eiji out.
At least this way he can be almost on par with Blade

>>14710072
Consider it a feature, not a bug.

>>14710138
No, +800 damage from a unit power up is too much.

Yes I know that Aggressive Beast, Mazin Power and Lambda Driver technically give a bigger boost especially the latter but in that case, Sosuke needs it to make up for his unit's terrible base damage.

And besides, as it is right now, Layzner already hits as hard as MkII did in the original game.

>>14710140
About half of that. J kept the values down because it has a 20 upgrade mode.

>>14710174
>Layzner already hits as hard as MkII did in the original game.
You mean, like a slightly bigger peashooter?

>>14710079
No I meant 450

>>14710174
>And besides, as it is right now, Layzner already hits as hard as MkII did in the original game.
So it does jack shit?
Look you told us to go nuts and now you're saying the opposite.
Everyone here is trying to make Layzner on par with Blade

>>14710174
>J kept the values down because it has a 20 upgrade mode.

D has one of those, but I seem to remember it being overall kinder in terms of power.

Anyway as for Layzner, I'd give it an ok boost, then give Powered a really good one, then give Mk 2 a slightly-better-than-Powered one (Not enough to make Powered useless, but enough to keep it inferior.)

>>14710192
>>14710183
What's with all the hate for the MK II, it's awesome

>>14710140

10 > 15 > 20
+900 > +1800 > +3000
+1000 > +1950 > +3250
+1100 > +2150 > +3500
+1250 > +2350 > +3750

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>>14710183
Outside of like Blade and the Meteors, every endgame RR hovers between 3700-4100 for their finisher.

>>14710192
You can't seriously expect me to see a +800 boost (since you never actually specified if this was for every V-MAX and not just V-Maximum) and not question it.

>>14710196
>but I seem to remember it being overall kinder in terms of power.
D scales like a fucking truck.
10/15/20 weapon upgrades average at around +2000/3000/4000 for each tier.
Probably higher.
I remember Riot Buster had like 6500 at 15 upgrades.

>>14710206
>every endgame RR hovers between 3700-4100 for their finisher.
Yeah? That's a problem with J in general with the incredibly low numbers and shitty power scale.

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>>14710210
Yeah, Blade's a bloody anomaly since he's at 3800 power off the bat when even Freedom is at like 3700.

Bringing everyone up to the 1600/1900/2200 scale would mean some serious HP bloating for things that aren't Voltes grunts tier durability and above for mooks.

Along with the mandatory accuracy modifier adjustment and damage buff so they don't tickle people.

>>14710206
>between 3700-4100 for their finisher.
And that's a fucking huge problem when everyone elses finishers are at 5000-6000.

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>>14710222
>Everyone else's

>>14710220
>would mean some serious HP bloating
Okay?
Enemies in J need more base HP since the game still uses percentage based-upgrades, meaning even with upgrades they barely get jackshit for HP unless they're from Voltes or whatever.
4000 HP should be the lowest baseline, so that they'd get 200 HP per upgrade.

>>14710222
No, this is J.
There's barely anything that breaks the 5000 mark at no upgrades, unless it's a combination attack, and that's the single strongest solo move that's not a self-destruct attack (which are also 5000 base anyways)
I think Final Kaiser Blade is just 5000.

>>14710050
If an angelic archer mech with huge tits that can create afterimages and shoot phoenixes is wrong, I refuse to be right

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Lily did nothing wrong

>>14710237
I have no idea how my comment about FKB warped from the middle of that sentence to the far end of it.
must be the work of an enemy stand or something

>4000+
Combattler - 4300
Voltes - 4400
Raftclans - 4500
Dancouga - 4500
Great Mazinger - 4700
Freedom/Justice Meteor - 4200
Blade + Pegas - 4500
Brigandi - 4000
Brachium - 4100
Granteed - 4200
Dracodeus - 4700
Layzner MkII - 4000
Mazinkaiser - 4500
Blade - 4000
Rapier - 4000

>5000+
Kaiser KS - 5000
Blaster Blade - 5000
Zeorymer - 5500
God Gundam - 5000

>6000+
Great Zeorymer

I'm probably forgetting some of the others but really, J's scaling is odd.

In comparison Freedom went from 3700 to like 4600 between J and W.

>>14710246
Lily did nothing.

>>14710252
She didn't even manage to bang Rai's dad before he died.

>>14710259
>banging Wakamoto, ever

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On that note, what exactly do you want out of the scaling?

Something that's basically a little higher than J's natural scale (like W's) or something like UX where there's a huge damage jump once will requirement attacks are involved?

>>14710297
OG1
Not OGs, not OG2, not any other OG.

Just OG1.
Mazinkaiser KS and the like are your Grungust stand-ins so you know where to slap those 5700 base power finishers.

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>>14710276
Well someone did. Therefore, someone could do it again.

>>14710307
Why OG1 and not say OG2nd?

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>not wanting Z3 shinka-tier damage scaling

>>14710335
OG2nd still has its outliers (the A mechs and the newcomers come to mind).

>>14710340
Basically you want me to stick someone important in that fucking jet/plane and throw it at Dark Brain next game?

>>14710348
Crash it with no survivors.

>>14710036
In J if enemies can't hit you they ignore you. More evasion on an already evasive real is not helping usability at all.

>>14710138
Also did you just say to balance everything in the game around your arbitrary number instead of the other way around?

>>14710412
>arbitrary
???

>>14710416
800.

>>14710420
Layzner gains +1100 from upgrades.
800 makes it so it essentially gains +1900 with 10 upgrades

>>14710423
Except you're still stuck on making it like other games when its own scaling is different to begin with.

>>14710429
Except not really
>>14710220
If you added +800 to reals they end up almost matching OG's levels, and at 15 upgrades you gain 950~1100 more.

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In W (which uses the same upgrade scale)

Its
1600
3100
3300
3600
3900
4100
4600

So about +900 on the finisher and tinier bumps on the grunt killers.

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Still subject to some revision but as it is right now, Eiji's about as strong as say Impulse in UX.

>>14710507
>Eiji's about as strong as say Impulse in UX.

Impulse without its comboattack is actually startlingly weak, I think it's actually outdamaged by the totally borked Mark Nicht. And it's intended to be Lunamaria's final machine, too, so there's not as much of a "but it's a preupgrade!" excuse.

>>14710533
Impulse outdamages it by like 50 points at 15 upgrades according to the scans.

>>14710545
Yeah, on checking it seems that way. The point is that it's really fucking close without the combo though.

Which is weird. I get the Gunner Zaku being weak, since it's intended to be earlygame only, but the Impulse being weak is strange.

>>14710614
Mark Nicht's a secret though, even the weakest ones are still supposed to be decent.

>>14710626
Mark Nicht is a major outlier. Its strength is really, really poor. I don't have its enemy scans so I can't confirm this - hey Jegan, you on? - but I've heard the issue is that it has the same attack power as an ally or enemy - and keep in mind, enemy attack strength is typically well below player attack strength because they have less HP to bite through. So its attack strength is very notably lower than anything you get. I mean, fuck, Atlantis Strike is literally 100% in every way better than Nicht's finisher!

Oh, also Nicht's gigantic 1-6 radial MAP or whatever it fucking is that it gets as an enemy doesn't come with it.

>>14710626
>even the weakest ones are still supposed to be decent.
Are we talking about secrets in general or just in UX?
Because if it's the former then Bernie's zaku, the Ball and various Zaku say hi

>>14710662
Aren't those more of an outlier than anything?

>>14710662
I used Bernie's Zaku into SRW3's endgame. He was there for moral support because I was a huge zeekfag.

>>14710637
I await the day when Exodus gets in and I get my Fafner Granzon for real

>>14710662
I think the anon meant UX, since most of UX's secrets at the absolute worst come with the issue of coming too late. The exception being Mark Nicht, which is legitimately shit.

(well, Luxe's Gim Genin's fucking terrible too, but I think with her the point is to abuse Bonds and Bless, right? I didn't get her last run so I don't really know if there's more to her than her good support set.)

>>14710666
I'd say the usual lot for secrets is that they either come too late or are mostly average. The real gamebreakers just stick out all the more.

>>14710672
Soon, anon. Soon.

>>14710675
>Come to late or are mostly average
Poor @1...

>>14710675
>>14710672
So what's going to happen first, Jinraiger coming out or Exodus being in SRW?

>>14710507
Lazyner
2800 -> 3900
3000 -> 4100
3400 -> 4500
4100 -> 5200

Buldy (Repair)
2700 -> 3950
2900 -> 4150
3300 -> 4550

Baybull (Resupplier)
2700 -> 3950
3000 -> 4250

Maybe I should tweak Layzner a little bit more. ATM its kind of like J where its just barely better than a pair of support units until Stage 23B or so when he gets V-MAX on command.

>>14710681
Jinraiger is supposed to be this fucking year and they haven't said anything other than that, but there's no way GX is getting released this year, so Jinraiger.

>>14710735
Jinraiger is fucking dead just deal with it.
Nobody gives a shit about the J9s anymore

>>14710741
The last update on the site was less than a month ago, we'll probably get more information tomorrow in fact.

Tfw female gundam protagonists are so uncommon you can literally field only one during a girls only run if 0080 is in the game