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I'm trying to stay away from the internet so I missed /m/s reaction to Build Fighter Try Island Wars. What did y'all think of it?

I saw another thread but it looks like some waifu assed bullshit.
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I think it was waifu assed bullshit.
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It's waifu assed bullshit.
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>>14664724
I felt that it was fun, but it definitely could have been a lot better.

If they had the tine to spare, it would have worked a lot better as a two part set. Start with the vacation, mystery, and investigation. End with discovery, the reveal, and the big battle.
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>>14664724
Island Wars was all the things wrong with Try in one OVA. Harem-shit, Sekai, poor job trying to recreate something from Build Fighters, fights are too one-sided and over the top, plot armor... It's incredible really and the only good thing out of it was one brief cameo at the very end of the OVA.

Kinda like the Naruto Gundam though.
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It's not really waifu assed bullshit, there's some romantic comedy parts at the beginning but it's mostly action, basically a big fanservice episode
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>>14664742
What the fuck is the place Aila and kid? I remember the ending of Build Fighters and it didn't make much sense to me. Like where exactly is their magical fantasy land? Is it in the plavsky particle crystals?

I want an OAV/anime set there with fantasy elements and Gunpla flying around with the kids because of non stop Plavsky particles.
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>>14664744
Maybe if everybody involved forgot what the fans actually liked, which is what happened.

>>14664749
It's a colony dummy
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It was genuinely terrible.
It didn't even make any of the gunpla in the new kits look cool. It was all beam spam of the worst kind.
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>>14664724
>harem shit
>seikai one punch bullshit
>LET'S USE THAT literally not gonna explain shit
It was meh at best.
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>>14664749
It's Arian, a space colony somewhere. Could be just out in space, could be from a different time, could be from a different universe entirely. Only thing for certain is that people with absolutely pure crystals can teleport between Arian and Earth.
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>>14664749

How can people be this fucking stupid, seriously?

Pay attention to things when you watch them.

Jesus Christ fucking subnormal idiots.
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>>14664724
It was the Try team going "oh hey, we ran out of time to rip off the S1 finale in the main show".

"Could you give us an OVA so we can do that?"
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>>14664808
They're too busy nitpicking things in Try to hate, they don't actually pay attention
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>>14664841
>>14664808

It's literally the opposite. It's so entertaining I don't think at all.
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>>14664788
>>LET'S USE THAT literally not gonna explain shit


It was the plavsky gate thing where they flew into the Build Burning Gundam you idort.
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>>14664724
It was dull and awful, everything that made Try inferior crammed into one slightly longer episode when the setup would've likely worked better for two. The characters are the same, the forced haremshit with the neutron star dense protagonist is there and pulled to new levels of retardation as they get jealous of protag playing with toys with a little girl. What's worse is that the new kits are mostly just incredibly bland with special credit going to the Impulse GM replacing the Build Gundam Mk-II on having the shittiest tacked on backpack in the franchise.

The entire thing is desperarely trying to copy the original (in this case the finale) to get points but just mangles it, the action was both dull and uninspired as everyone just beamspam/winbutton'd everything in their way and yet it felt like it went by way too fast because they had to cram in 7 units and make them all look good and important so nothing has time to really shine in any way. Scramble Gundam does nothing but abuse plot god powers, which I guess it's fair because that's exactly what Sekai does anyway, with one final turbo asspull to end it all.

It's really bad but in a way it's the perfect sendoff for Try. It encapsulates essentially everything wrong with the show in one quick package and is left pining for days when Build Fighters was actually good.
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>>14664959
>with special credit going to the Impulse GM replacing the Build Gundam Mk-II on having the shittiest tacked on backpack in the franchise.

At least the kit finally gave use a g-bit head and the axe pistols don't look too bad.

The new lightning backpack is the worst one really. Its a dull design that all around feels like a downgrade over the previous pack and both its color and aesthetic clash horribly with the Lightning gundam.
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>>14664724
>Orange Zeta
Machine robo?
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>>14664724
I thought it was stupid, more so than the show.

Seeing kamiki burning have a move for every situation was ridiculously overpowered.

>shoulder beam cannon
>shooting giant phoenixes
>jigen fire moves
>particle boost mode
>flame FUNNELS

Theres still more but i dont want to rewatch the ova
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>>14664911
and out of that magic portal came a golden SD-except-not-really gunpla that doesn't resemble any of the kits used in the summoning/power up, nor was it previously used, designed, or mentioned by any of the party members. It just happens for no fucking reason.

But yeah I JUST DON'T GET IT.
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>>14665026
>It has funnels
Dammit this was the worst part

Most of the bullshit leads for the past 00's series had funnels, and I was happy that most of the more recent ones didn't have them
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>>14664724
It was the original GBF ending with the new cast, but without actual teamwork. Even when the Scramble Gundam fired the three giant space lasers it was just three parallel sets of "one character blocks the beam tor another" and then "By your powers combined....I am SUPERIOR KAISER" and one-punched the Scramble Gundam.

Gyanko had a nice new gunpla, that's about all I can say. Minato's two new gunpla were strikingly uncreative for the Shingyo school. Burning was slightly uglier, Yuuma's Lightning and Fumina's SD looked pretty much the same, and two more instances of "A girl? Give her a Bearguy".
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This and Yuuma's face when meatbunbabby disappeared were the only worthwhile parts of the OVA, and my standards are ridiculously fucking low.
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>>14665080
It was an advertisement for 10,000 yen collector figure of it. It's from some SD gundam thing. Which is shameless even for a gunpla anime. At least most cameos aren't the climax of the anime.
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>>14665142
There's a kit for the Gold God Superior Kaiser, if it was advertising anything it was for that.

If that finish was anything, it was just the one dude on the team who is in super in love with SDs seizing control. Seriously, Try fucking loved referencing SD Gundam.
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>>14664977
>The new lightning backpack is the worst one really. Its a dull design that all around feels like a downgrade over the previous pack and both its color and aesthetic clash horribly with the Lightning gundam.
It's just the AGE 2's backpack. What's funny is that at the end of Try Yuuma had built that backpack that allowed him to shoot a beam phoenix, like Sekai, implying he was starting to think outside the box. Now he's back to being boring.
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>Sekai's three slutwaifu pigbitch whores having a Newtype moment near the beginning
>okay, this is something that the original GBF would do, mitebecool.jpg
>afterwards Minato helpfully explains what just happened via expository dialogue, y'know, for the kiddos

Aaaaaaand... dropped.
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>>14665187
Seriously, they even explained Colony Laser, Diva etc.
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>>14665184
Naoki is a boring designer. He's more of an OOB builder guy, which isn't bad in the slightest but it doesn't work in anime original design.
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>>14664724

Island Wars was cringy shit whose only redeeming feature was a five second came of Aila in the end.
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>>14664788
>sekai one punch bullshit
Reminded me so much of RG system one punch that broke through gundam X maoh's red maoh sword. Shit was frustrating.
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>>14664724
A solid 3/4ths of it is harem gayness.
The other 1/4th of it was like watching a musou game, except somehow even less cool.

How did they know where the basement is?
Why were there Psycho Gundams and why did they panic when they saw it, considering they just took it apart like it was nothing?
How in god's name were they able to block those hyper megas? The laser from 00 especially, that shit showed that it can tear through GN fields no problem and no one even has a limb gone.
Why did the Scramble Gundam fly away in a straight line when it could have just moved to the side and avoided a giant punch headed in it's direction?
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Naoki had a few really good custom designs in the first half of Try but it's like he just ran out of ideas as it went on.
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>>14665779
>How in god's name were they able to block those hyper megas? The laser from 00 especially, that shit showed that it can tear through GN fields no problem and no one even has a limb gone.

This one is actually explainable. Remember, original settings rules/tech =/= gunpla battle version. The beam can eat through GN particles in its own setting, but in BF everything is plavsky particles and doesn't strictly follow the tech and rules from the series.

The blasts were also being fired from scaled down/condensed playing fields around the Scramble gundam so they may not have been full sized or as powerful as they might otherwise have been.
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>>14665779
>Why did the Scramble Gundam fly away in a straight line when it could have just moved to the side and avoided a giant punch headed in it's direction?
Same reason nobody in most anime seems to be aware of the secret technique: sidestep.

Try Fighter idiots did the same where they turtled up to barely block highly telegraphed beams instead of moving a little bit in ANY direction.
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>>14665142

>SDX Superior Kaiser
>10,000 Yen

Try 30,000

http://p-bandai.jp/item/item-1000101809/

>>14665174

It is probably more of a throwback since that kit is basically ancient by our standards and it is hilariously expensive depending on where you look.
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>>14666553
The kit also wasn't made by bandai hobby iirc.
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God Kaiser next
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>>14666576
pls no
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>>14666576
More like Gaudy Kaiser.
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>>14666613
Apparently there are more than enough requests for it on twitter so that's something going to happen sooner or later.
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>>14664724
the kijima white hair became very thirsty
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>>14665743
It's frustrating watching Sei prove that yes, he's the better builder?
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>>14665080
The "joke" is that the Gold God Superior Kaiser is pretty much a walking deus ex machina. So wouldn't it be fitting if it showed up in Try as a complete deus ex machina?!?!?
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>Gold God Superior Kaiser is pretty much a walking deus ex machina
No it is not.
Gold God can be destroyed by killing its core.
The reason of having God Kaiser is Superior Dragon (the core) died, and got God Gundam as the new replacement.
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>>14666471
I'm pretty sure that if they didn't tank the beams all the scientists in the area would be in danger.

Of course, I don't think the people who wrote this garbage thought things through that deeply, but it's a reason that's there.
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>>14666916
It's kind of funny how Try's ultimate attack is to literally turn Fumina's and Yuuma's machines into elemental powerups (which are never used) for Sekai so he alone can use his ultimate finisher. It's a fitting fate for the two of them.
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>>14666638
god fucking dammit
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>>14664724
Is that a zeta head with a mouth vent?

Why?

I really should watch try one of these days.
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>>14665117
You sound like me.

Did I post this?
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>>14667018
The actual explaination is after the death of Superior Dragon, God Gundam becomes the new core of the Gold God. God Gundam overseas' name is Burning Gundam, and Kamiki Burning Gundam is the latest version of the God Gundam bloodline.
So Kamiki in kanji means the holy tree, which implies Sekai's gunpla/gundam has the potential to be the core of the Gold God.
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con't >>14670585
and in SD world before Sun Knight God Gundam becomes the core, the Shuffle Alliance sacrifices themselves and becomes God Gundum's battery to make it turns gold. An act that is very similar to the Lacroa heroes sacrificing themselves to power up Vassal Knight Gundam to make it the core.
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>>14664724
>Gaplant arms
>Zeta Head
I don't get it, there is something about this mobile suit that makes me not like it. However, all the parts are things I really like. It just doesn't make sense. Maybe it's just the color scheme or the clear parts.
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>>14664959
Build Fighters was never good.
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>>14670585
>>14670603
that's real nice but in the context of the actual show and actual writing in general rather than muh deep gundumbs connections, everyone's plastic toys magically become energy so Kid McPlotpunch can summon a god figure out of nowhere and end the episode.
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>>14670691
They aren't Ga[lant Arms. They just have a pair of beam rifles clipped to them. They unclip and reclip elsewhere during it's transformation.
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>>14670978
>everyone's plastic toys magically become energy

Are you forgetting that plavsky particles are literally magic and that we've seen actual PEOPLE turn into energy through them since like episode 2 of the original series?
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What was the third space laser the scramble used supposed to be
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>>14671067
Colony Laser, Celestial Being, and Photon Ring Ray.
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>>14670889

Nothing is ever good. It is all shit forever.
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>>14671196
Is that you Stan?
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>>14664724
It's like someone took the Zeta Gundam, the Destiny's Wings, the Providence's legs, tossed in some translucent blue bits and hit puree on the whole thing, and this is the result.

That being said, the model is much better looking than the lineart made by Okawara. Still don't like the mouth vents on the Zeta head; that shit's uncanny in the worst way.
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It reminded me of why I prefer the original series to try.
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I too prefer the original series to season 1
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Best Waifu wasn't even in it.
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>>14674789
Gyanko was in it though.
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What now?
How long until news for the OG BF OVA?
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>>14664724
the best part was everyones faces when the girl teleported away
>GHOSTS!!!!
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>>14674834
Sasuga, Try is only good when it imitates S1.
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>>14665714
>forgetting gundam exodia
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>>14675000
That was fucking shit, SDfag please go
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>>14675000
That was one of the worst parts about Island Wars.
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>>14674789
If the next OVA is supposed to be with the BF cast, there's a chance we'll get a younger Lady, possibly being a sperg.
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>>14664724
Cringe. The plot was too compressed, nothing was gripping, and more plot holes then I could count on my hands.

>>14674789
Thank God.
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>>14674789
>cute chuuni girl that loves Stargazer
>exists solely as a godawful plot device for Fumina and Shia's shitty harem garbage rivalry and for porn
>could otherwise be entirely removed from the plot without consequence

Try always has to fuck up decent basic ideas.
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>>14664724
Oh look more shipping and a 2 second Aila cameo.
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>>14664724
Shit as expected
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>>14677762
All they had to do to was remove Sekai and Junya. Fumina v Gyanko v Shia works perfectly well as just a gunpla rivalry. With all the time for Sekai screaming and haremshit freed up, there's plenty of time to develop the rest of the cast a bit more too.

If you still want to maintain the 3 theme, put Minato on the team, have the conflict be between more traditional gunpla building and the 'gunplna is freedom' model espoused by his school. Moral of the story is then that both schools of gunpla are true gunpla, and should be appreciated.
Also just imagine the ridiculous combining bullshit Hoshino 'fuck you my SD has a Real Mode' Fumina and Sakai 'Tryon 3 is in the other genre entirely' Minato could get up to together.
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>>14666576
Does it suffer from GPS?
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>>14677762
>Lady Kawaguchi
>Cute

Nigga you what. She's a bitch, and not the kind of bitch who's entertaining to watch, either.

>Oh hey I'm a distaff counterpart to the wildly popular Meijin III from last season because Sunrise likes money.
>Oh hey, a girl who looks up to a chick that is clearly me, a fact I will never acknowledge outright for no discernible reason.
>Let me pit this fangirl against this Gunpla obsessed Rei clone for no other reason than to stroke my ego and gain a protege by process of elimination.

Lady Kawaguchi is fapbait. Shit-tier fapbait at that. Acquire some better taste, you plebian.
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>>14677831
Did I not literally just say that she was nothing but a plot device? The cute part applied to nothing but her design. Of which her younger design was better, by the by.
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>>14677831
>Rei clone
Oh yeah, she was like that.
Why did Shia's personality change so much between episodes?
She was a completely different person in the OVA but it didn't feel like character development.
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>>14677849
Eh, her design ain't cute. Younger Lady? Eh, okay, I'll give you that.

It IS a shame that she ended up such a bitch though.
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>>14677858
And now she is in the AR manga.
I wished they would just erase her from existence, she was a mistake.
I don't think anyone likes her.
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>>14677861
Man, why couldn't the angry short chick from the BF:A manga have been Lady Meijin? You know, the one with the Command Astray? She seemed like an interesting character in the manga.
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Speaking of BF:A, how does Tatsuya's chronology work? Wasnt he in Sei's school? How did he end up in other schools at the same time?
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>>14664724
It's everything wrong with GBF-T in a bottle.
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>>14671409
That's a ReZEL body, not a Zeta. Only the head is Zeta.
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>>14677881
Don't quote me on this because I'm quite fuzzy on both the original BF and BF:A having not visited them for a while, but I'm pretty sure he just went to a gunpla school while he was middle school aged then attended the high school portion of Sei's joint high and middle school later on.
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>>14677870
That's a positive thing since we don't need Try tainting any more good characters.
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>>14677812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcjAUN5Ssj8
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>>14677881

It was basically divided into the following parts in the AMEIJIN manga

- Childhood Arc (Meeting Tohru and getting into Gunpla, 10 years before S1)
- London Arc (Meeting Takeshi and his passion reignites when he is around 13, this occured around 4 years before S1 after the 2nd GBWC)
- Gunpla Academy (Becoming Meijin's successor, happens a year or so after London)

The first few chapters of AMEIJIN Ready is basically about Tatsuya during the 6th GBWC where he met Kaiser, Logan, Grandpa MacKenzie and others. And no, Kaiser's daughter Princess is not Lady since the age gap is simply too big for it as she would still be 13~14 by the time Fumina first saw Lady in action.
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>>14677896
That body looks nothing like the ReZEL's. Get your eyes checks, son.
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>>14678010
It looks even less like Zeta's. Also the transform is totally wrong for Zeta.
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There is literally nothing wrong with haremshit
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>>14677896
>>14678043

It's based on the Zeta as the entire MS is a reference to an old Zeta game for the Famicom that was celebrating its 35th anniversary this year.

>Torso is different
>Transformation is different

Which is why it's a custom. Just think of it as Zeta ver. Okawara.
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>>14679074
>35th

I mean 30th.
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>>14674789
At least she's getting this in the manga. I'm praying it gets a non-P Bandai regular retail release. It's the only Build Fighters suit that actually got me hyped in a very long time.
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>>14680036
Eh, not very excited for it, honestly. It's another NAOKI Delta custom, that happens to be cosplaying the Stargazer.

The whole thing feels... derivative? I dunno what else to call it.

It even has the same wings as the Hyaku Shiki J, except folded down.

Don't get me wrong, it looks good, and if it were to say... show up as a DLC unit in Gundam breaker 3, I'd definitely consider using its parts, but it doesn't quite speak to me, unfortunately.
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>>14680156

>derivative

That's the point of most Build Fighter mecha. Hell even the original gunpla fighting manga. And mobile suit variation and so much more spinoff stuff. It's like modded cars and shit.

It's normal to get tired of this stuff pretty quickly. But it is so disappointing when it happens to you and you know it's a good suit. When Season 1 of Build Fighters was airing I was so excited to see what new version of a suit would pop up but when Build Fighters Tri Island Wars suit came out I just could care less. And I liked the OAV. I can't even tell the difference between the ZII and the ZZII at a glance.
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デルタカイで話が終わってる、彼らの話はこの機体に挑戦してみないかであり、俺はデルタカイなんか使わなくても他の格下機で勝てると話がこじれているのだろ思う、それと連絡役も仲介役の人間もいないいのに戦える訳がない、メックでも改造したほうが楽しそうだ
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>>14680165
Didn't it basically have modified ZZ shoulders, and the ZZ shields on the backpack?

For someone as creative as Minato, it felt like a major letdown.

The ONLY one who had a completely new model that looked GOOD was Gyanko and the Gyancelot.
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sold out
2nd release order taking starts 9/1
https://twitter.com/hobbysite/status/770589025157525504
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>>14680208
Nope. The ZZII is actually covered in all sorts of little details to make it more ZZ-ish. Starting from the bottom up, it:

- Removes the side fins.
- Has symmetrical thrusters on the calves.
- Adds a little red bit on the knee spikes.
- Adjusts the front skirt armor to have the ZZ's little rectangles.
- Removes the red armor on the side skirts to get something primarily blue (though it doesn't go all the way and add yellow thrusters).
- Lengthens the forearm armor and makes it a distinctly separate part, similar to the ZZ's shields.
- Changes the shoulders entirely to resemble the FA ZZ's setup.
- Changes the backpack to have the same option to have two beam cannons flip down and point forwards.
- Adds ZZ shields to the backpack to act as binders, Hyaku Shiki style.

The torso is the only odd bit, as neither the Zeta, the ZZ, or the ZII features symmetrical shoulder cameras or 00 style chest vents. If I had to say it looked like anything, I guess soooorta the mkII? The whole thing seems like it's trying to remind you of Gryps era designs.

Anyways, suffice to say that the ZZII actually IS a very creative design. It's just that it doesn't scream out loud that it's a custom like Tryon 3, you have to actually be familiar with the ZII to see what's different.
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>>14680300
Also you have to realize that in-universe, the ZZII is a direct response to the Lightning Zeta.
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>>14680300
My only beef with the zzII is the head and gun. The big cannons on the zz were one of its most defining features and they weren't carried over. Give it a non-stick rifle and a high mega cannon and I'll be happy.
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>>14680208
I feel like such a hypocrite. One thing I didn't like about Try was that a lot of the mecha felt too different to preexisting Gundams unlike Season 1. Now these felt like they were too similar or something.
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>>14680335
It's because a lot of the original seasons designs only made small changes that made the gunpla look more personalized. It gave them character and different abilities (The weakest in my opinion being the X Maoh, which just felt like they tossed on glowing panels and fiddled with the backpack a little).

These actually make quite a few changes on close inspection, but they don't really add anything to the overall look of the design and you may have trouble even seeing the changes unless you put it directly next to the original.
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>>14680343
The X Maoh was hilarious because it basically exists as one final animator capitulation to how difficult the GX's Satellite Cannon sequence was to animate. Fuck that rotating backpack, just have the thing open up!

You could even see it as Mao deciding to just work with the improper Satellite Cannon sequence the GX does in its most iconic firing of the SC.
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>>14680311
The thing is that it's still trying to be the ZII. Minato is trying to one up Yuuma here, and tacking on some stuff from his previous build to the theoretical successor to the Zeta to do it.
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>>14680361
I'm not saying make dratic changes to the zII face or anything, I'm saying you just can't put ZZ in the name and then not have a forehead cannon. Even the MP ZZ knew this.
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I think we can all agree that this was the most underwhelming/worst upgrade and new kit in the OVA.

Both its color and aesthetic clash with the lightning and the design itself feels like a downgrade compared to the MK II back system. Its supposed to be some sort of beam cannon enhancer but it removes a bunch of the thrusters, the beam cannons, and the missiles to do it. The little white gun/beam saber looking things on it don't even seem to do anything.
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Are things like gatling guns even worth using anymore when everyone has an insta kill beam?
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>>14680426
Good for hitting faster targets and cutting down groups I guess.
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Gyanko and her cronies would have won if it weren't for Sekai's bullshit plot armor.
That northern pod thing was actually kinda cool.
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>>14680466
It was a generic back flyer, but glowing.
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>Try hard's secret strategy is to literally have Fumina and Yuuma's gunpla turn into magic dust and power up Sekai so he can solo any opponent

I don't think the nips know what real team work is.
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>>14680491
Sure they do.
It's always that one guy who delivers the final blow while the other members being cheerleaders.
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>>14680405
As a commercial for the kits it was pretty crappy.
ZZII didn´t use the waverider mode and Beargguy didn´t use the wand and other specific stuff to that model.
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58735157
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>>14680749
Not to mention the finishing move was an advertisement for an expensive exclusive figure that isn't even a Gunpla. (The gunpla itself is long out of print, very rare, and very expensive).
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>Beargguy didn´t use the wand and other specific stuff to that model.
Those were there in the photo shooting.
It's a fashion thing, not a weapon thing. :^)
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>>14680405
That's what happens when the power scale gets out of control.
Yuuma could launch giant overpowered beams before so any new weapon or "upgrade" it's now purely cosmetical.
And in that aspect, this new nackpack sucks.
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>>14680760
Wew lad
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>>14680761
It wasn't an advertisement, it was just a reference.

Bandai's gunpla and figure wings don't cross market at all.
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>>14680761
The expensive exclusive figure that closed its preorders two months ago, you mean?
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>>14680300
I disagree. If you look at the core parts of the MS like the torso, the arms, and the thighs, they are very Zeta-ish. The ZZ always had that blocky torso for the core fighter or core block, which is lacking here. It looks more like a core Zeta II with ZZ-styled armor slapped on top of it, which is basically what you listed.
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>>14680908
>I disagree that the ZZII doesn't have many ZZ-inspired details.
>For you see, it actually has ZZ-inspired details.

???
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>>14664724
It felt like it crossed the line of homage and just straight ripped from GBF's finale.
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>>14664724
it was a waist of time
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They couldn't even do haremshit right, barely any fanservice.
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It's amazing how incompetent a diecto can be.
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>>14679074
>is a reference to this ancient game
>that has a regular Zeta
>so they built a non-Zeta with a Zeta head and Destiny wings
>because "scramble"
APOPHENIA
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i dont understand i feel like the team that made build fighter put a lot of love in the first seasion like that scene with felini and his wing zero but the seoncd season and this just feel like product placement is this even the same staff that made the first one?
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>>14682599
there is shared staff between the 2
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>>14664724
That thing is sexy as fuck, regardless of anything else.
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>>14683717
I would have preferred less crystals but it's nice. The waverider mode is absolutely horrible though.
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>>14681677
It's okawara. He recycles design elements like crazy.
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