I just finished this and I'm about to watch the movie. Why

>>14656537
>Why was this so good?
It was last AU Sunrise put a decent amount of money and effort into.

>>14656558
And it was good.

The fights were generally good.

>>14656558
Ignores build fighters s1

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It's amazing how well the animation of this show still holds up.

>>14656587
He haven't watched it yet. Probably.

>>14656595
It's called 'putting time and effort'. And a bit of love and dedication, probably.

>>14656601
Particle effects, actually.

Particle effects are the secret to what makes 00 so good.

>>14656537
>00 is almost 10 fucking years old
Jesus christ where does the time go.

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>>14656595
Compared to a "well-animated" fight from IBO.

>>14656537
Tell us what you think of the movie when you finish it.

>>14656613
And good mech designs. I'd fuck a Flag.

>>14656537
>Why was this so good?

Banrise was responding to the criticisms SEED Destiny got.

>>14656615
>Wing was 21 years ago

old enough to drink

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>>14656537
The movie is more of an extended epilogue to the series that serves to wrap up Setsuna's character arc and a lingering plot point that characters kept making cryptic references to in the show.

Still very enjoyable in my opinion, and unique in that it doesn't rehash old Gundam plot ideas. Make sure to stay after the credits for additional scenes.

Is it bad I cried multiple times watching this?

Lockon didn't need to die ;_;

>>14656724
No. Yes. Everyone at least felt sad when Sergei died.

I wonder if OP will make a thread about the flower.

Everyone seems to make a thread about the flower.

>>14656745
>Everyone seems to make a thread about the flower.
Why?

>>14656724
But he got revived in Season 2.

>>14656745
It needs to be titled (in all caps): "WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH?", for full effect.

>>14656657
>implying

SEED and Destiny are super popular in Japan, 00 holds well enough but it can't get close to the numbers of CE. Though AD was a way more interesting setting, it had just enough material to flesh out a decent world. CE and (early) UC are practically tripping over themselves to tie in more shit until every non-Fed grunt has a fully fleshed out backstory where he killed 20 GMs in a single battle.

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>>14656749
Because people have terrible memory and can't into symbolism.

>>14656766
I guess so, that flower also appeared in OPs.

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>>14656771
It's meaning and importance (to Setsuna) was also repeatedly hammered into the audience throughout the series.

>>14656786
Then i also guess that people are stupid.

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>>14656764
>SEED and Destiny are super popular in Japan, 00 holds well enough but it can't get close to the numbers of CE.

SEED and Destiny also are disliked by the Gundam fanbase over there for multiple reasons. Throw in the fact that Destiny's gunpla sold like shit, Banrise were looking to distance themselves.

Considering 00 sold more Gunpla than CE did in half the time, does it really surprise anyone Build Fighters has such a 00 focus?

>>14656795
More likely 00 kits have relatively modern HG engineering that Bandai can milk without having to go back and making new molds.

Also that AGE graph gets me every time.

>>14656760
It's a tradition that should be upheld for as long as /m/ exists.

Everyone gets one WTFlower thread.

And my download is done, see you guys in two hours.

>>14656795

Can't imagine why when Kira and Lacus were topping their Newtype character polls for years.

>>14656856
because they were popular

I dunno why the fuck /m/ thinks japan's gundam fanbase is a homogenous blob

they have UCfags and AUfags and CEfags too

>>14656856
It's a meme at this point. People probably spam vote Kira and Lacus for shits and giggles.

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>>14656724
I'm amazed how attached I got to the crew of CB without even realizing it. I was almost tearing up at this scene.

>>14656894
This. Kira is meme everywhere, not just on /m/.

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I didn't realize how much of a 00fag I was until recently. Every time I rewatch AWOT I like it just that much more. Even S2, despite that it dropped themes from S1, is still a good show with high quality. And the mech designs are 11/10. Even the 00 Raiser is phenomenal jet back be damned. I would bet money that the thrones would look better if they weren't essentially monocolored.

>>14656952
Well 00 was good, with it being the last AU Gundam banrise put effort into, just like the anon said.

>>14656900
We just had a Japanese guy explain why characters like Kira and Kirito are so popular.

>We love the character with hidden super power or skill and sad past, so otaku can get into the story. Quarter back in high school is bullying a geek, at the time the geek think “I will kill you someday!” but the “someday” will never come in real world, but in the anime. So you can imagine IF you are Kirito or Kira. Sad past makes story more depth. Back ground is important, like the movie Wolverine X-men ZERO, I guess.

It's not because of them being well-written or anything, it's because otaku live through such characters as a form of power fantasy. Kira pretty much checks off all the boxes. He's a kinda geeky student. He uses his skills at programming to pilot a machine normal people can't even make walk. Then we find out Kira has the super-special SEED mode (and later Newtype powers). He has sex, and later on pretty much godmodes the world into doing what he and his waifu want. If someone goes against him, then they're wrong and misguided.

That is Kira's popularity in a nutshell... well, that and the amount of fangirls who want to see him and Athrun pork each other.

>>14656952
00 does have a lot of rewatch value in that there's barely any filler and everything kind of feeds into the overall plot. I also picked up things in the movie that I didn't catch the first time around, like the commander that sold out Sergei and is now trying to redeem himself.

>>14656623
Did they fix that in the BDs?

>>14656633
Does anyone still have a pic of the Mudkip Flag. I remember tripping balls by just looking at it.

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Was this gundam show the last one that /m/ truly enjoyed shitposting/discussing/memeing about?

I miss the threads and the show. Everything after the 00 series felt like a wet fart and never truly had us enjoy it together.

>Those designs
>the world building
>The antagonists and major enemy pilots that you actually gave a fuck about
>That reversal after the inital stomp by the meisters
>Those final season 1 episodes with shit happening left and right and the best scenes from every meister till the end

What happened?

>>14656587
Build Fighters wasn't that good either. Different issues but just as bad as Try desu.

>>14657803
Gundam wise? 00 watch/discussion threads on /a/ and /m/ were pretty great with both seasons. It followed in spirit after the shoes of Code Geass. Everything after that has been the Dark Ages on /m/.

>>14656623
>Compared to a "well-animated" fight from IBO.

The asshats who "worked" on IBO didn't give a shit. The end result is a show that's shit on every possible metric.
Characters ? Check
Animation ? Double check
Story ? Check
Music ? Check

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akH8OQY0OxI

Still the best Opening ever.

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>>14657803
>>14657809
>Was this gundam show the last one that /m/ truly enjoyed shitposting/discussing/memeing about?
You are quite fucking stupid if you believe 00 that. And there was less of an outcry for quality control back then so people went crazy and an abundant of stupid shit /m/ would have felt embarrassed to be apart of.

>>14657834
>t. SEEDcuck

>>14657834
Despite everything else, I thought IBO's music was the one good thing.

>>14656899
I remember how I got speechless on that episode becuase of a bunch of characters I liked either died or seemly died

>>14656899
CHRISTINA SIERAAAAAA

>>14657860
>tumblr
>newfag
>summer shitposting
Kill yourself

>>14657803
I thought Build Fighters S1 was fun to discuss.

>>14658321
>RG FIST spam last quarter of the series
>retarded mind-fuck shit with Aila and Mejin
Nah, it had problems and detractors a plenty, just wasn't outright as bad or noticable like Try was in comparison out of the gate.

>>14657803
I remember watching gundam 00 with /m/ when it came out. Good times. I remember the first couple episodes of the second season as being particularly exciting. I remember watching episode 28 (episode 3 of season 2) and playing a drinking game where you took a shot for each bullet shot from a handgun. The episode was pretty tame, until this part: https://youtu.be/yCnjfjpocJw?t=1h21m58s It still makes me smile.

What happened? The next series just weren't as good. I'm sure /pol/ would just blame 00bama somehow though.

>>14659040
Well, the way I see it there's two factors: the quality of subsequent gendum entries and how they loaded detractors with plenty of ammunition to stifle any hopes of discussing the show (because let's face it, AGE gave us "cell phone gundam" and IBO still gets a YEAAART any time you post -that- webm), and the direction the livewatch culture took in the wake of CODE GEASS CODE GEASS CODE GEASS CODE GEASS where in the hopes of being able to say "I was there when [current year anime] turned into the season's Twin Peaks equivalent" people have forced themselves to watch stuff they wouldn't honestly care for just to be part of the discussion.

So when you get people whose expectations aren't met, and you give them things to post-hoc rationalize their disappointment, it doesn't paint a pretty picture.

>>14656623
The first cut 3 seconds in is actually good though.

The directing's a mess, with all the cuts to faces breaking the action, but the animation is not horrible imo.

>>14657848

But anon, that's not Ash Like Snow.

>>14659111
But that's not hakanaku mo towa no kanashi.

>>14659144
All of them are good.

Ever since 00 I feel like I've been waiting for the next big 'entry' in Gundam. AGE just felt like corporate crap. IBO could have been it, but that fell flat. Seed was stupid, but at least it wasn't boring. Honestly, I'm still waiting.

>>14658635
But it was fun.

>>14657803
I missed the 00 live threads, there's always surprises in every episodes.

Remember when people were disappointed when Reborns Cannon made it appearance and then going crazy the moment it transformed into one of the sexiest looking Gundam?

Good times.

>>14658258
Here's your (you)

Didn't like how s2 was zeta light, but that terminator exia was sexy

Fucking amuro being the bad guy was funny

>>14657803
>Was this gundam show the last one that /m/ truly enjoyed shitposting/discussing/memeing about?
People who say this were never on /m/ when 00 was airing. You know all those complaints in regards to IBO being boring and long stretchs of nothing happening? That was going on here with 00 right until the Trinities were introduced.
>The antagonists and major enemy pilots that you actually gave a fuck about
Pretty sure nobody gave a fuck about Alejandro or the Trinities. Graham was cool but really didn't do shit until the latter half of the season.

People sure do have rose color glasses.

>>14659421
Don't forget all the shipping arguments.

>>14659421
I can confirm this, but at the end of S1 we were all pretty excited and satisfied for the first ending.

>>14656623
00 looked like ass too in the middle of the show.

>>14656899
But why was he a cyborg? DI'd that twist really need to happen for a character with virtually no development beforehand who was on the brink of death when the reveal happened?

>>14657803
That was GBF.

People started complaining after they introduced RG system but we got Gunpla Eve just before the last arc so all is good.

>>14659421
Shitposting about S2 was especially fun, mostly because shitpost wasn't the default state of /m/ back then.

>>14659509
Perhaps, but it's been years and now DVDs have corrected every flaw. Still, i do not remember particularly heinous things. Bandai, from the beginning had focused heavily in the project and the four Gundams had a fairly complex design for a Tv show standard.

>>14659522
Because the first 5 episodes of S2 were impeccable.

>>14657834
Why did you let that Graze murder your entire family, anon?

>>14659500
That was the big difference between the 00 season finale and IBO, one got you really pumped for the next season while the other made you wish it stopped there. But even I knew things weren't going to work out with Graham being the masked rival.

>>14657803
Yes because Tokushit hadn't invaded /m/ and destroyed the board culture.

>>14659300
Nice try (You) faggot.

>>14659163
>But it was fun.
No it wasn't.

>>14659500
>I can confirm this.
I can confirm you're full of shit. Shitposting was an irregular thing on /m/ back in its early days, especially when 00 was running. Weekend /m/ was shit, especially in the evening times but the rest of the week most people were only complaining about the Trinities until Faggot-kun aka Alejandro started his scheme and most of the thread shitters were silenced from hence on.

>>14659742
Yes it was.

>>14656724
Yes it's ok. I literally finished rewatching the show last night like OP, and I cried at everything, even though I knew what was coming.
I even cried during that scene where Andrei realizes he fucked up near the end.

>>14659650
Found the newfag

Sometimes I go into the archives and read threads from all the way back in 2009, just to remember the good times.

>>14659758
No it wasn't, 2010er.

>>14656537
>Thoughts?
Don't watch the movie. Let the series ending be an open ending where humanity is ready to meet aliens because society has matured and the impurity has been purged. The movie's story has nothing to do with any of that and is just a mindless monster movie (no, literally...mindless monsters).

>>14660035
Retard

>>14656537
Watch the movie in either surround sound or with a good pair of headphones.
The soundtrack and sfx is fucking glorious.

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>>14658192
That part got me the most.

I really liked Christina, and her scenes with Feldt were very cute.

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>>14656537
>Why was it so good
1.Had god tier OP choices
2.strong cast
3.strong plot
4.Great MS designs
5.Great animation with minuscule flaws
Honestly one of the last actually good MS franchises. If they brought the same development team from when 00 aired, I would love for them to animate 00F and animate Fon Spaaks story

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>>14659742
>Shitposting was an irregular thing on /m/ back in its early days, especially when 00 was running.
Its cute that you think this. Much like people who reminisce about Code Geass you guys either come off as delusional or you're playing pretend to mask the fact that not a whole lot has changed since then and its even more funny how you're lying between your teeth saying /m/ wasn't felating over GBF when we made a FUCKING MURAL AT THE END OF THE SHOW AND SENT IT OVER TO THE OFFICIAL TWITTER ACCOUNT AS THANKS FOR MAKING SUCH A FUN SHOW.

>>14659742
>Shitposting was an irregular thing on /m/ back in its early days, especially when 00 was running.

Nope, you are just full of shit, newfag.

>>14659518
During Gunpla Builders S1 there was people yelling Best Gundam show EVER !!! with manly tears pic. Of course no one takes seriously the show, but everyone had fun, even during the baseball episode.

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>>14661158
>animate Fon Spaaks story

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>>14661385
But things have changed. /m/ has become a lot less interesting since the anons here started becoming more serious ala /a/ & the userbase has dropped considerably.

Like the other anon said, the quality of /m/ is wholly dependent upon the quality of the /m/ shows currently broadcasting at the time, and we haven't had a powerhouse like CG, 00, or TTGL in a long time. So sure, the post rate and OC creation goes up whenever we get something decent (like GBF), but overall /m/ has become a lot more boring.

But yeah, we had just as much shitposting (if not more) back then.

>>14657834
If you didn't like "Raise Your Flag" then I can't help you.

>>14657834
Arguably, music is the only thing IBO didnt do wrong.

>>14661531
>newfag
Keep trying, 10er, you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>14661385
>we made a fucking mural
Are you fucking retarded? The hate against GBF was high enough that people never stopped associating it was GBF fans being known as GBF babies, you autistic piss ant. There is no god damn universal love of GBF, you have a sugarcoated and absolutely cherrypicked issue if you think its loved any more then G-Reco is hated.

>>14661908
I only ever recall their being a handful of GBF haters that used such terminology.
Are you sure your memory isn't being warped by your own grudges?
Otherwise I challenge you to go into the archives and post proof.

>>14661925
desuarchive you dumbfuck
It's archives go all the way back to 2009

>>14661925
>Whatever helps those delusions, mate.
Same to you buddy.

>>14661960
Nigga I don't give two fucks and I didn't even know about desuarchives (hell it probably won't even last like desustorage), you baby. I already said I don't care enough if you read my post with some semblance of comprehension.

Kill yourself.

>>14661968
>>14661960
(You) aren't good at this.

>>14661972
You made outrageous claims and refuse to put the money where your mouth is.
The most I've seen the use of "GBF Babies" was on /a/, and even then it wasn't but a few times.
>The hate against GBF was high enough that people never stopped associating it was GBF fans being known as GBF babies
This is what happens when you take shitposting as fact.

>>14661994
>outrageous claims
>only on /a/
>"fact"
Nice projections, my autistic friend. Also can you fuck off to your own little shithole GBF jerkoff thread?

>"build babby" has been successfully retconned out of /m/ history

Excellent, the SEED defense force continues to gain strength.

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>>14661994
>outrageous claims
>of people hating GBF on either board
You really are a sub-human piece of trash, build babby faggot.

>>14662007
I won't deny hate, but you make it sound like the vocal minority was bigger than a handful.
Most people who dislike a show are sensible enough to simply not watch it and avoid threads. But I'm guessing that was something you could bot even handle.

>>14662021
It was more then a handful though, this is revisionist shit that /pol/ and stormfront fags like to do about Nazi Germany's negative image in world war 2 or something.

>you could not bot even handle
I actually didn't give a shit about the show either way but claiming it was a only "small handful" of people hating it is ridiculous.

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>>14662021
>Most people who dislike a show are sensible enough to simply not watch it and avoid threads.

You seriously believe that?

>>14662033
It was only a small number. If it wasn't they weren't very vocal and just took jabs at it in unrelated conversation. You're waxing poetic like it was Valverave or something and there were giant fights going on while it was airing.

There were not. Just people complaining at random about the new series being a literal toy commercial. Most people were indifferent or enjoyed it.

>>14662033
Yeah ok buddy. Whatever floats your boat.
For the most part it was usually only one guy who spammed build babies in every gbf thread, and he would do it in the same exact way. Don't pretend otherwise, because GBF didn't air that long ago.

If anything the more you post, the more you sound like you're the build babies guy.

>>14662070
>It was only a small number.
No it wasn't.
>Just people complaining at random
No they weren't.
>Most people were indifferent.
Most people were indifferent, apathetic, or didn't care for it either way. But the hostility to it was beyond a "small handful".

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>>14662072
>IT WAS JUST ONE GUY
>AND I THINK IT WAS YOU
You are getting pathetic, mate. This is now like the autism with Yukinafags in StB threads claiming anyone who hates her must be THK. Do you see how dumb you sound?

>>14661972
You sound like a redneck. Or at least I hear your post in a southern drawl.

>>14662083
Uh huh. Don't you have some other thread to shitpost or something? No one took you seriously back then either.

>>14662106
>>14662093
(You) still aren't good at this. Also where is the "redneck" part coming from?

>>14662077
Taking shitposting seriously. For shame anon.
You of all people should know that jumping into a thread and spamming "Build Babies" does not constitute a legitimate opinion.

>>14662122
Who is the you here? The only thing I see in this thread is a shitposter/GBF poster shitting up a 00 thread and another guy samefagging harder then hell trying to claim GBF was some 10/10 work of fiction that was beloved by all.

Also where did I spam "Build Babbies" in this thread?

>>14662122
What are you talking about, just want to see where this bullshit about that it was only a "small" group of people hating GBF is coming from.

>>14662093
You sound retarded.

>>14662077
No, it wasnt. Open hostility was nowhere near the level you seem to think it was. I'm not the retard that thinks everyone loved it but you didn't see entire threads shutting down because someone decided to mention the show.

>>14662153
My memory isnt atrocious anon.
Most of the discussion with regards to GBF hate circled around viewers from other sites thinking it was shit because it deviated so greatly from the "Gundam formula". They were a joke.
MUH WAR DRAMA and all that.
No one on /m/ took such opinions seriously.

>>14662153
>>14662179
Honestly if you want to talk about why you dislike GBF that's perfectly fine with me. But you're not gonna make up bullshit and call it fact, then expect anyone to believe you.

>>14662162
It definitely was, you can backpedal as much as you want but the only reason any thread is going shut down mode i.e. this one is because of frantic fanboyism trying to shuffle away a deflection to save face.

>>14662179
>No one on /m/ took such opinions seriously.
You don't speak for the board.

>>14662230
No, but I certainly frequented this board. Especially during GBF.
And if you're really hating on GBF because it was too lighthearted for you, than you've got a few more problems than some memory kinks.

>>14662190
>make up bullshit and call it fact
Good thing then that nothing stated for GBF is made up bullshit then.
>>14662239
>I certain frequented this board.
So does every single regular who calls themselves a /m/an. You aren't special.
>Especially during GBF.
I was here and on /a/, what's your point?
>hating on GBF
I'm not hating on it, I'm just one of several posters here pointing out that was never idyllic on /m/ when GBF was airing because the hate for it was strong. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

>>14662239
I can directly recall in one of the threads back when the first season for GBF was airing was someone wondering why /m/ seemed more chill with GBF and that was because another anon pointed out very explicitly that its because AGE came before it.

Either way though, most GBF threads had their fair share of detractors and haters in them. The only thing I know is that most of the board seemed indifferent to GBF, but loved it? Doubtful.

>>14661158
>I would love for them to animate 00F and animate Fon Spaaks story
No, why would anyone want to see the ultimate gary stu?

>>14662250
Yeah ok dude. Enjoy your fantasy land where shitposting consists of legitimate opinions.

>>14662279
Great rebuttal dudester. Now please choke yourself out.

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>>14661908
>>14662271
>>14662250
>>14662230
>>14662179
>The hate against GBF was high enough that people never stopped associating it was GBF fans being known as GBF babies, you autistic piss ant

Yeah man look how much we hated it.

>>14662271
Every show that has an ounce of popularity will have a good portion of hatred (which more often than not, is caused by dislike of said popularity). The problem here is anon making the hate sound like a bigger deal than it actually was.

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>>14661608
>the quality of /m/ is wholly dependent upon the quality of the /m/ shows currently broadcasting at the time
>CG
>00
All more hilarious when one of the most discussed anime series back then was GSD. You retards really are delusional. The only difference between /m/ then or rather 4chan and now is that there was a lot less people posting here and a lot less quality control hence why we had thread spam with no moderation.

>>14662300
Is that collage suppose to prove there weren't haters? Because it doesn't.

>>14662300
>we
There is no "we", people who were into GBF were doing shit with their own Gunpla in the view/watch/literal # general threads, this really doesn't indicate anything except that its fanbase was that into the show.

What is your point?

>>14662306
The problem is that anons like you are claiming it was a tiny group of people, when it was far larger then that. But my problem is the hyperbolic bullshit of the GBFIDF claiming it was universally loved, when most of the board didn't care about it period.

>>14662317
"Quality" does not imply good quality.
GSD still gets threads discussing how awful it is.

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>>14662319
>Is that collage suppose to prove there weren't haters?
Never said there weren't any but apparently they were in the minority.
>>14662322
>this really doesn't indicate anything except that its fanbase was that into the show.
Actually it indicates that the board like it enough to make something like that happen, not every show can get people together to do that shit and I recall a lot of people who participate didn't actually have gunpla at hand and just got whatever because they were eager to participate. But apparently /m/ hated GBF despite allowing shit like that to happen. What does that say about you?

>>14659806
Me too ;_;

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>>14662336
>They were in the minority.
Where's that proof?
>the board
No, just the GBF fandom on /m/, not /m/ as a whole.
>What does that say about you?
It tells me you really like moving the goal posts with strawman arguments.

>>14662328
>"Quality" does not imply good quality.
I don't get your point then. 00 and CG were massively overhyped shitfests we still get crap shows like that all the time.
>GSD still gets threads discussing how awful it is.
So /m/ has not changed

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>remember watching 00 with /m/ for both seasons as it aired
>remember all those drinking games, live watch experiences, and debate threads on where the show was going
>remember the rage over Nena murdering Louise's family at the wedding
>remember the Prince Ali MV edits that littered Youtube bad that even repeated take downs by Sunrise/Bandai would just lead to more duplicates and new videos popping up
>remembering all those good times
Man I feel old at 27 now. /m/ will never have another Code Geass or 00 experience, how sad and really depressing when you think about it that way.

>>14662344
>00 and CG were massively overhyped shitfests
Here's your (You).

>>14662347
>>>/a/

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>>14662341
>Where's that proof?
see
>>14662300
Once again if /m/ hated GBF as much as you're implying shit like that would not have taken place. You don't see /m/ making murals for IBO and A/Z. You've also yet to prove that /m/ hated GBF.
>just the GBF fandom on /m/
Which consisted entirely of Gundamfags which make up the majority of the board. If you hated GBF back then you were the minority
>It tells me you really like moving the goal posts with strawman arguments.
This is telling me you have no idea what you're talking about. But the ball is your court to prove /m/ hated GBF and not just use an assortment of stock insults.

>>14662349
(You)

>>14662347
>/m/ will never have another Code Geass or 00 experience
IBO ended 5 months ago.

>>14662347
Code Geass wasn't even a thing here in fact we couldn't actually have a discussion about it here without somebody funposting about it.

>>14662357
Never forget: if you want to funpost, you do it on /a/.
If you want to call people's taste shit, you do it on /m/.

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>>14662350
Where's the proof?
>if /m/ hated GBF as much as you said
I never said /m/ hated GBF contextually more then it liked it, work on your reading comprehension.
>for IBO and A/Z
Because IBO and A/Z are both total shit. Again, why are you shifting the tangent here now?
>Which consists entirely of Gundamfags
Entirely of Gundamfags who liked GBF, not the entirety of the Gundam fandom on /m/ in total, totally different things here.
>If you hated GBF
I didn't hate GBF, my increasingly desperate friend, I said I was apathetic to it like the majority of the board was.
>minority
It was a substantial minority of people that didn't like it and detracted from it. Once again: original tangent, poster claims GBF was universally loved, others point out that was not the case. That simple in case it went over your head.
>This tells me
It tells me you can't read very well because your making up fictious claims I never said and twisting my words to make up an argument I never made to attack me on it. Which is by definition, a fucking strawman. Seriously, learn how to read.
>assortment of stock insults
Good thing I never did this. Keep trying, dude.

>>14662353
>IBO
So what does that have to do with his post?

>>14662357
>Code Geass even a thing here
Yeah okay buddy.
>>14662353
>IBO ended 5 months ago.
Really shitty bait.

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>>14662363
>If I close my eyes its not there
You're done here
>I never said /m/ hated GBF contextually more then it liked it
Now you're just making shit up. Either /m/ hated GBF or liked it there's no middle ground when it comes to this board.
>Entirely of Gundamfags who liked GBF, not the entirety of the Gundam fandom on /m/ in total, totally different things here.
Right the people who were crying NOT MUH WAR STORY but then every Gundam anime have people who are not going to like it for different reasons including 00 a show you claimed was loved here.
> I said I was apathetic to it like the majority of the board was.
Apathetic enough to make a huge mural thanking the staff for it. You are grasping for straws.
>substantial
You keep thanking that and not proving it
>argument
What argument? You seem to just be flip flopping constantly. You can prove /m/ hated GBF, you can't prove /m/ was apathetic to it so all you can do is point the finger without proving anything.
>Good thing I never did this.
And you're still lying. I see you're just arguingfor the sake and don't want to prove anything.

>>14662365
Meaning there was no fucking different and he's letting his nostalgia blind him of what was going on back then.

>>14662384
>Yeah okay buddy.
Ding! Now we know for sure this faggot was on /m/ back then.

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>>14662393
>You're done here.
Sounds like a concession, there, mate.
>Now you're just making shit up
I'm not: its not my problem that you are falsely equating my post with some other's or that you have the memory of the goldfish. I said what I said, you can scroll up, its not a difficult task.
>you claimed was love here
>implying implications
You can at least make a better non-sequiter argument then this if you are just plain going to shitpost here.
>Apathetic enough to make a huge mural
That was by the GBF fandom, not by the board. You know, like /m/ singing anime ja nai or GGG's opening. Not proving anything like I said earlier, man. No matter how much you want it to be seen otherwise.
>not proving it
I'm still waiting for you to provide proof, don't try the whole pot to kettle bullshit showing what the fandom likes reflects the entirety of the board itself.
>What argument?
Learning to read helps, I already explained myself twice to you before.
>You're still lying.
Except I'm not, my ESL friend. I can do this the whole thread with you if you want it.

>>14662397
So what does IBO have to do 00 or Code Geass?

>>14662397
I'm not seeing the connection with 00 or CG with IBO.

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>>14662397
What nostalgia involves IBO? IBO is legitimately incredibly fucking shit like A/Z, Valvrave, Gargantia, G-Reco, and AGE. What do you gain by comparing it with 00 or Code Geass?

>>14662384
>>14662397
Where the episodes in 00 or Code Geass where whole stretches of nothing happened and hardly any combat or fighting at all? Its been years since I watched either of those shows but I'm pretty sure they don't have those problems at the very least.

>>14662426
You forgot Majestic Prince, Diego.

>>14662443
>Majestic Prince
That was good though.
>Diego
Not a spic, Percy.

>>14662457
>That was good though
Thanks for the laugh Jesus, I bet you think Cross Ange was a masterpiece.

>>14662434
>Its been years since I watched either
Well there goes your argument

>>14662459
Cross Ange was campy shit intentionally by Fukuda and was only good for the trainwreck presentation that it never shied away from being, but no, it was not "objectively" good either.

Stay mad, faggot.

>>14662426
Wow...you really are stupid

>>14662465
>no rebuttal again
So again: was there entire arcs in Geass or 00 where literally nothing happens? Because IBO is quite heavily fucked over because that's what the majority of the middle of the series is in its first season, nothing happening between the brewers and dorts story, and both of those being filler themselves.

You seem very stupid.

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>>14662467
>campy shit intentionally

>>14662469
>....
No. Kill yourself.

>>14662426
The only bad show there is G-Reco.

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>>14662473
>>14662469
>>14662465
>>14662457
(You) suck a lot of cocks don't you?

>>14662476
>IBO
>good
>AGE
>good
>Valvrave
>good
>A/Z
>good
/a/ please

>>14662472
Mao arc.

>>14662479
Valvrave is in tranwreckcore, so it's good for trainwreck value.

>>14662473
You do in fact seem pretty fucking retard if you think Cross Ange was trying to sell itself as being a serious story

>>14662483
No

>>14662479
>Cross Ange
>good
>MJP
>good
>Build Fighters
>good

>>14662485
No, VVV was just "really shitty overhyped shit" value.
>>14662490
>MJP
>not good
Fag

>>14662489
>I-i-it's not shitty, it's camp! It was totally planned to be bad, that means it's good!

Retarded -and- an ESL, José? You should go back to school and get that diploma instead of posting on 4chan.

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>>14662490
>Cross Ange
I said campy fun, not that it was "good".
>MJP
It is.
>Build Fighters
Don't care for it.

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>>14662412
>That was by the GBF fandom, not by the board. You know, like /m/ singing anime ja nai or GGG's opening.
So you're saying all of participated in the lets sing (which only gets at most up to 30 entries here) while the GBF mural recieved over 100 entries and is addressed from /m/ not just the GBF fandom and in a board census conducted a few years here surveying the traffic here /m/ has at least 200 posters that come here daily. You know you done fucked up right?

>>14662502
>participated in lets sing
>30 entries here
Haha wrong and stop with the lowball shit. The GGG opening had something like 4 or 5 times that and not even getting into those who didn't make the deadline.

>200 posters that come here daily
/m/'s daily traffic is higher then that.
>board consensus
Yeah that's totally trustable.

>it's an "/a/ crossboarders annex /m/ and rewrite its history" episode

Next they'll tell you we were always a GSD containment board.

>>14662498
>Retarded
Nope.
>-and-
Sup Reddit.
>an ESL
Nothing I posted gives off the impression that English is a second language to me, faggot-kun. You should sterilize yourself.

>>14662523
Go back to school Ramirez.

>>14662520
But /m/ *is* a containment board since toku crap became official here in 2010. And as an unsurprising result, the board has turned to shit and gotten continually worse as time has passed.

>>14662476
>The only bad show there is G-Reco.

IBO not G-Reco. G-Reco is incomprehensible storywise and has schizofrenic characters. But it is not shit. It has great world building, character design and animation. IBO has what, Kudelia-Hime-Sugoiiiii, bad story, no world building, shit animation and worse character designs. I'll take G-Reco every day over IBO.

>>14662539
Please drink bleach, my non-white friend.

>>14662550
I'll take AGE over IBO. But I wouldn't say its storyline was "incomprehensible".

>>14662554
*wouldn't say its (G-Reco's) storyline was incomprehensible

>>14662550
>I like Reco because it makes me feel like an idiot
>I hate IBO because it treats me like an idiot

k

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>Finally a 00 thread
>Derailed over if /m/ liked GBF when it was airing
Thanks you penismongers.

>>14662572
GBF babies are the worst.

>>14662550
OK but seriously is anyone else tired of people listing the same bullet points, tacking "good/bad" to them, and failing to actually elaborate on the matter because they're afraid that'd just out them as not actually having seen the show they're talking about?

>>14662572
I feel you anon, I just wanted to discuss 00 in peace ;_;

>>14662572
I pin the moment the thread died at when one anon expressed the approved /m/ opinion that AWoT is shit, opening the floodgates for /m/-sanctioned groupthink.

>>14662511
>The GGG opening had something like 4 or 5 times that and not even getting into those who didn't make the deadline.
There you go lying again.
>/m/'s daily traffic is higher then that.
Nope. This is a slow ass board so a little over 200 posters is more feasible.

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>>14662572

>>14662585
>Lying again.
Except, I'm not. Also really a testament on how you couldn't bother giving a rebuttal to my earlier points that you conceded to me by no longer even attempting to give off the illusion of being civil or intelligent when I was debating your claims.
>Nope
What a strong show of proof! We're a small board, that doesn't mean we're an irrelevant one like /an/. The daily traffic to /a/ or /v/ are probably in the tens of thousands hourly, but /m/ even being small isn't going to be 200 daily, that's ridiculous.

>>14662585
>This is a slow ass board
Yes.
>little over 200 posts
The KRG and SS generals alone probably accommodate for over 100 to 200+ unique posters hitting /m/ and that's not getting into SRW or other threads. You're underestimating just how big even a small board like /m/ is.

>>14659153
The last OP was the gayest one since Trust You Forever.

>>14662615
Still better than Ass Like Blow.

>>14662641
>Ash like Snow
>not GOAT
>Daybreak Bell
>not GOAT

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>>14662412
>>14662363
>>14662341
>>14662322
So let me straight. A show that getsthreads that max out over 600 posts per new episode and have post anime threads throughout the week after the episode airs until the next new episode where it again maxes out and repeats the cycle again and then have a mural made as a thank you to the staff means its not liked on /m/. Okay

I just recently watched 00 and I still can't figure out why I found it so fucking boring. Even when things I found interesting conceptually were going on I had to force myself to pay attention. After the thrones were introduced there weren't even any more interesting things to keep me watching though, so I never watched the second season or movie.
Having seen all of UC, Turn A, Build Fighters s1 and even G-reco, 00 has so far been the Gundam series I enjoyed the least.
The grunt designs were great though.

>>14662648
>litearlly even after all this time still moves the goal posts
Fucking kek, you can't really be this retarded can you?

>>14662611
>The KRG and SS generals alone probably accommodate for over 100 to 200+ unique posters hitting /m/
You do realize that people have dynamic IPs and post at different times of the day right? It sure doesn't help your case that KRG and SS threads can be up for days unlike Gundam threads that can max up within half a day for most depending on the subject matter. Unique posters is as worthless here as they are for /r9k/

>>14662666
Nice try Satan, but all that does is establish that no measurement for /m/ users can be taken at face value, other than "some non-zero amount."

Thus, arguing about trends in terms of population sizes here is nothing but a load of horseshit.

>>14662666
Yes, and that answers nothing. It doesn't establish and upper end, that doesn't mean we can't postulate a lower value on the low end. Claiming /m/ only has "200" or so regular posters on it daily is retarded.

>>14662660
>I just recently watched 00 and I still can't figure out why I found it so fucking boring.
Its narrative makes it impossible for you to be engage with the story or characters because you're always left hanging on vague pretenses as an excuse for plot development and most of the first season is centered around wondering why are these characters doing what they're doing and why should we care? Of course the payoff comes in the second season which is more or less what everyone's already concluded. It's a very dry show and not in the same sense as say a Takahashi show where its dryness is balanced out by the clever writing and unique ideas it brings to the table, 00 is dry in the same sense that IBO is dry, its a "mature" all stakes action drama with none of the bite though while 00 eventually goes into the realm of self parody IBO just gets more and more dull as it goes on.

>>14662682
>Yes, and that answers nothing
It answers something that's been said since moot implemented the unique poster system. Its not a measurement for anything especially when the same posters are always in those threads and they move slow as shit to the point they're up for days.

>>14662660
It's a show that gets better if you rewatch it in my opinion. The first time you're kind of just going with the flow but when I rewatched it I caught a lot of shit that I missed when I was focused solely on robot action.

>>14662676
You actually can just by following the daily traffic and as that poster said there was a census and at least 200 posters are here daily which is pretty low for 4chan especially in comparison to their most active boards (/b/). Obviously its gotten up within the last few years but its probably bot that different at least before 2012 when 4chan got bigger.

>>14662709
I doubt I missed much, I paid quite a lot of attention.

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>>14662665

>>14662707
Its not answer for the claim there's only "x amount of posters" on /m/ because "x thread is still here on the board days later".

>>14662687
IBO wasn't exciting, dynamic, or possesses any sort of drive in its characters unlike 00, so that's its main fault right there. The fact its riddled with lackluster writing doesn't help things for it. Say, like the Hime's constant flipflopping that makes Relena look defined favorably comparatively.

>>14662719
Its not working, faggot.

>>14662715
The Dynamic IP argument means that even that number can be held suspect outside of it being a non-zero value.

So all we know is that people visit /m/, and that there's a certain volume of posts, but we can't really say for sure what the exact number of users are, because there is no way to guarantee every unique poster is truly unique.

Even if you could prove how many unique machines are accessing /m/ at a given point in time, there is no way of proving that there is a unique end user behind each of those machines.

>>14662715
Wrong.

4chan as a whole was hitting like 12 million daily hits even before 2012, /m/ is a small board but small does not equate to "just about 200 posters are on it regularly".

>>14662721
>IBO wasn't exciting, dynamic, or possesses any sort of drive in its characters unlike 00,
That wasn't the case with 00 either. The only thing it has going for over IBO is animation.

>The fact its riddled with lackluster writing doesn't help things for it
Once again 00.

>Say, like the Hime's constant flipflopping that makes Relena look defined favorably comparatively.
Say what you will about her but at least she was active in the plot and had a presence unlike poverty princess who was only there to serve as a symbolic image of Setsuna's need for a mother and did nothing else.

>>14662721
But saying because x amount of posters were in one thread for x amount of days means /m/ has more than 200 people? Okay

>>14662737
>4chan as a whole was hitting like 12 million daily hits even before 2012,
Cool bullshit bro

>>14662741
>That wasn't the case with 00 either.
Wrong.
>Once again 00.
Wrong.
>Say what you will about her
No you apologetic faggot. Her character quite literally without hyperbole or exaggeration gets into one set of defined goals and then immediately reverses on them in the next episode. Her character can and is defined as a plot device, not a personality or person.

>Poverty Princess
The entire point of Marina was that she was a symbolic and literal figurehead who no real political clout, experience, or understanding (INTENTIONAL) of the real world who went by naivety and hence why her influence is completely kept to Setsuna and motivating him, not turning in the Queen of the fucking military or planet like Relena or Lacus.

You suck.

>>14662742
I literally am saying there's no proof or support of that one guy claiming at best /m/ has "only" 200 regular unique posters or users on it. That's it.

>>14662737
>4chan as a whole was hitting like 12 million daily hits even before 2012
>12 million
Speaking of made up numbers

>>14662733
So the numeric is literally worthless unless the thread is in real time because once again we have no way to prove if the posters are the same ones just on a different machine or if they have an IP that frequently changes.

>>14401284

I can guran-fucking-tee you that the 80 unique posters are the same few individuals posting on different days since the the system reclocks everytime you close or post on a different deivice, same with the 80's circlekjerk thread and Gunpla generals. I better measurement to see how many people are active in real time are the livewatch threads since they can max out in less than an hour and have different posters in the thread by the minute.

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>>14662731
Here's another for the road

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>>14662768
It's not working.

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>>14662749
>NO U

You sure showed me.
>Her character can and is defined as a plot device, not a personality or person.
And yet she still does more than most of the same characters in her position.
>The entire point of Marina was that she was a symbolic
So you agree? Gotcha. Just in case you don't understand the irony that means that Marina is also a plot device.

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>>14662782
You're still here?

>>14662766
>everytime you close
No it doesn't.
>>14662783
>And yet she still does more
She did nothing the entire series. Even her flashback only damaged her character further in the Dorts arc.
>most of the same characters in her position
Nice bullshit.
>So you agree?
No I don't agree.
>Marina is also a plot device.
Explain how Marina constantly flipflops on her position or views and yet Kudelia doesn't first, my fallacy equivalence abusing retard.

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>>14662788
(You) still are after all.

>>14662793
>No it doesn't.
Yes it does. That's why its so shitty. Unless you don't have a dynamic IP or don't close your windows.

>>14662783
00's fights and combat choreography are worlds apart and far better then anything in IBO. OST as well to add. On top of that, what has Kudelia done? She's quite often citied as one of the very WORST things about IBO.

>I WANT TO SAVE THESE KIDS
>SHIT WAIT WHAT AM I DOING
>NO I WANT TO SAVE THESE KIDS
>WAIT WHY AM I GOING TO MARS AGAIN?
>OH SHIT EARTH ABUSES MARS
>I LOVE KIDS
>WAIT WHY DO I LOVE KIDS FUMITAN

Endless tedium: the character.

>>14662812
I rebooted my router twice just to be safe and the IP in the threads hadn't changed even after closing the window. I know my router gives out dynamic Ips, are you certain of this?

>>14662813
>I WANT TO SAVE THESE KIDS
>SHIT WAIT WHAT AM I DOING
>NO I WANT TO SAVE THESE KIDS
>WAIT WHY AM I GOING TO MARS AGAIN?
>OH SHIT EARTH ABUSES MARS
>I LOVE KIDS
>WAIT WHY DO I LOVE KIDS FUMITAN
Absolutely fucking saved.

>>14662793
>She did nothing the entire series
Well at least you admit you didn't watch it.
>Nice bullshit.
Please still me how much Marina did throughout the show other than teach a bunch of kids to sing
>No I don't agree.
You literally just said she's a walking symbol
>Explain how Marina constantly flipflops on her position or views and yet Kudelia doesn't firs
That was never my argument to begin with. Aina at least has her own character arc where Marina's character is just to support Setsuna and she only does that for a small portion of the show.

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>>14662797
Yeah? That's why I was wondering why you're still posting after losing the argument.

>>14662821
The IP number that needs to change is the one your ISP assigned to you, not the IPs the router assigns to connected devices. To the outside world all of those devices behind your router are one in the same (long story short, the mechanics that make the internet work are kinda weird and best understood as "it's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.")

This guy really must despise GBF to have remained so bitter after all these years.

>>14662821
>The post count is now at 52

Why you lying brah?

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>>14662830
>You didn't watch it because I said so!
I'm pretty sure I watched IBO otherwise I wouldn't be the one retarded enough to defend that crap shoot of a show in the first place.
>Please tell me how much Marina did throughout the show
I already did, retard. Her character's influence and importance is to act like a mentor figure or older sister to Setsuna, to show off his humanity and doubts. That's all she does because she has no ability to make any sort of fucking influence even on her own government or people because she is nothing more then a symbolical figurehead whose desperate to save her people and enhance their lives via anything to work with the UN and later Earth Federation.
>You literally just said she's a walking symbol.
No I said she was symbolic, not that she was a literal symbol. The difference isn't semantics here.
>That was never my argument to begin with.
Could've fooled me.
>Aina at least has her own character arc
Which does nothing and gets nothing done. She has a central importance to the story and makes it WORSE, not better. Her motivations continually collapse because Okada can't set up a domino of story arcs outside of Kudelia being incapable of adjusting herself to a set view or belief because her drama is cheap like that.

Try harder.

>>14662846
It says 51.

>>14662832
>losing the argument
The entire thread has gotten into a tangent about unique ips in threads being irrelevant and unimportant to board traffic. A claim you keep trying to push contrary on to save face with your dumb mural/collage shit as being indicative that all of /m/ was involved with it.

How are you this criminally stupid?

>>14662813
>00's fights and combat choreography are worlds apart and far better then anything in IBO
>>14662741
>That wasn't the case with 00 either. The only thing it has going for over IBO is animation.

>OST as well to add.
They're abut the same really. Can't really think of a Gundam anime with a bad OST outside 0080

> On top of that, what has Kudelia done? She's quite often citied as one of the very WORST things about IBO.

What do you know so is Marina hell that entire description fits Marina to a tee.

>>14662851
>I'm pretty sure I watched IBO otherwise I wouldn't be the one retarded enough to defend that crap shoot of a show in the first place
But you're defending 00
> Her character's influence and importance is to act like a mentor figure or older sister to Setsuna
So she's a plot device
>No I said she was symbolic, not that she was a literal symbol. The difference isn't semantics here.
You're reach those straws someday
>Could've fooled me.
Well yeah because you can't read
>Which does nothing and gets nothing done
So you actually haven't watched IBO

>>14662813
>00's fights and combat choreography are worlds apart

00 is literally "if we speed everything up and shit a bunch of sparkles over everything no one will notice how off model our S1 designs are in motion!"

But this just goes back to the issue that what makes 00 look so good is liberal application of faerie dust.

>>14662870
>That entire descriptions fits Marina to a tee.
Not really. Mizushima and Kuroda basically purposely intended Marina to be the polar opposite of characters like Lacus and Relena.

>They're about the same really.
The only thing memorable about IBO was its first OP and last ED. Its regular BGM was pretty muted.

>>14662887
>Mizushima and Kuroda basically purposely intended Marina to be the polar opposite of characters like Lacus and Relena.
By making her worthless and unimportant?

> Its regular BGM was pretty muted.
Go be a pleb somewhere else.

>>14662880
And you're defending Tekketsu, ergo you are the faggot here, friend.
>She's a plot device.
Explain how.
>You've reached those straws someday
Nice ESL, my mentally impaired friend. There's nothing reaching in my claim and you certainly still haven't provided any rebukes or counter-claims against my arguments that haven't been entirely shitty one liners. So once again: explain how Kudelia isn't a plot device given her character has zero consistency, development, or linear growth even as outside events happen all around her.
>watched IBO
I have, my continually attempting to poison the well shitposter. Would you care to detail the amazing series of events that went on for 6 or 7 episodes from after the Brewers arc and before the Dorts one?

>>14662894
>>14662883
>>14662880
(You)

>>14662883
>00 is literally
Its not literally.
>"if we speed up everything up and shit a bunch of sparkles over everything no one will notice how off model our SI designs are in motion"
Show me those off model scenes of combat sequences. In fact show on top of that all the sparkles in S1 obscuring views of models or mobile suits in action.

>>14662861
>with your dumb mural/collage shit as being indicative that all of /m/ was involved with it.
And you've yet to prove why its dumb and why it isn't proof that /m/ liked GBF.

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>>14662880
>stuff happening
>in IBO

>>14662910
And yet you still haven't provided a counter for getting called out by several people on your claims that /m/ is a tiny ass board of 200 people. Why are you so retarded, man?

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>>14662907
>Show me those off model scenes of combat sequences

>>14662918
>combat sequences
So you can't read and are ESL verified for certain now, go back down the border, Pablo.

>>14662915
>several people
No just (you)

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>>14662918
>combat sequences
So where is the combat? Are you that samefag who always shows up in Unicorn threads and claims that one key animation frame being slightly off means the entire OVA episode was low budget animation?

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>this
>Entire
>THREAD

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>>14662922
>no combat sequences
>reborns Gundam and 00 Gundam on there

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So the same people who hate GBF and 00, praise IBO.
That's good to know. I'm glad I decided to revisit this thread.

>>14662927
Nope, only (You). Do you honestly think these are the same people:

>>14662851
>>14662846
>>14662843

If so, you should kill yourself.

>>14662936
>Reborns Gundam and 00 Gundam on there
>image size: 1023x703
>of thumbnails
>expect anyone to see anything

>>14662937
I like 00 and think GBF is okay but I can't stand IBO.

>>14662937
>MUH SAFE ZONE

Glad to see that ButtFuckers can't accept that not everyone likes their shit show.

>>14662899
>NO U A FAGGIT

You sure showed me.

>Explain how.
She serves no actually purpose other than the betterment of Setsuna's character which is already occupied by the members of CB and Saji
>: explain how Kudelia isn't a plot device given her character has zero consistency, development, or linear growth
So you haven't watched the show

>>14662951
Nice bait. Doing god's work triggering everyone on /m/.

>>14662937
I like GBF and hate 00, what will I think of IBO?

>>14662957
>She serves no actually purpose
ESL strikes again!
>than the betterment of Setsuna's character
She doesn't serve as his betterment you fucking mongoloid troglodyte, she serves as a foil for his doubts and questions. So she does serve a purpose rather then running the show despite having zero consistency, like say Kudelia.
>So you haven't watched the show.
Keep repeating yourself, still haven't given an answer for those 6 or 7 episodes of nothing happening in the middle of IBO, or the pointlessness of the Dorts arc, or how retarded the space debris concept of human children being used as weapons were in the Brewers arc or the shit writing in general in IBO.

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>>14662962
>I like GBF

the finale of S1 of 00 was fucking great and it shits all over crap like IBO, Gshit, TRY and Age

Real talk: why is Build Fighters even allowed here?

There's no mecha in it, just plastic depictions. There's a board for that and it's called /toy/.

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I don't know who is going around triggering people left and right, but you must be God's gift to /m/.

>>14662977
Because the same mods think karate bugmen also belong on the mecha board, same with western /co/ garbage. Which has ruined /m/ for good permanently.

>>14662967
>MUH ESL
Thats really all you can say at this point
>>She doesn't serve as his betterment you fucking mongoloid troglodyte, she serves as a foil for his doubts and questions
So you didn't even watch 00
>shit writing
And yet you're defending 00

>>14662937
The people who hate IBO also praise Cross Ange

>come into thread
>expect 00 discussion
>shitposting about nostalgia and IBO instead
IBO wasn't even bad, faggots

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>>14663000
>That's really all you can say
No it isn't, if you could actually read properly, Juan.
>blub blub blub
>blub blub blub ad naseum
Kill yourself, third worlder.
>>14663090
>IBO wasn't even bad, faggots.
>IBO wasn't even bad
>IBO

>>14663090
>IBO wasn't even bad
We've gone full circle here with the meta shitposting now.

>>14663159
Every Gundam seems to be shit in retrospect.

I mean, we obviously watch for the cool robot battles and the story can go to shit because Sunrise is afraid to go full /pol/.

>>14663183
>Every Gundam seems to be shit in retrospect.
No.

Also Flit did nothing wrong.

>>14661158
Fon is just a joy to see

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>>14661572
>>14662277
Yeah, because im sure you guys are enjoying rehashes of the same UC bullshit over and over again. Any AU shit is good in my book

>>14664740
AU is fine.

Fonfiction is not.

>>14664925
Fon isnt that bad. Give me one example of how hes a deviant art tier fanfic OC character

>>14662660
I rewatched it again and i still enjoyed it for the same reasons i did back then.

I didn't find it boring.

>the meisters curbstomping everyone at first
>some aces appear and put up some degree of challenge for them
>the whole desert operation pinning them down by strategy
>the thrones appearing and being dicks
>the major powers getting GN shit and finally getting to some even ground with the suits
>the whole final episodes, 4 meisters vs a full squadron of GNX's backed by the whole world, the desperation as everything goes down and the CB pilots go over their limits to pull of a survival win for them at least

Exia cleaving alejandro's MA along with his suit was just too good.

>>14660035
>Unique aliens who are actually alien and only fight humans because they are trying to communicate
>Mindless monsters
A wakening of the Trailblazer is a retard filter.

>>14660035
>ELS
>mindless monsters
I guess you just didn't UNDERSTAND the movie

>>14660035
I just finished the movie
I didn't even mind the ELS being the way they were, but seriously, what the fuck was that ending?
>Setsuna communicates with the metal planet hivemind thing
>"I must go, their planet needs me" and teleports away via gundam magic
>suddenly; giant space flower
>everyone of the characters seems to understand what this means, and is perfectly ok with this development
>roll credits
the after credits scene with the star trek mission and the inclusion of metal setsuna didn't make it any less confusing.

>>14670412
Didn't we warn you about the flower?

>>14670434
Why the fuck no one understands the fucking flower? What the fuck.

>>14670454
It's one of the few consistent things here on /m/. People just lose it at first sight of the flower, it's hilarious.

>>14670470
They fucking show that flower constantly through the show, its even in the fucking opening. What the actual fucking fuck.

Best part of the movie was the Celestial Being movie. It did piss me off that although we got to see Setsuna's ending, we didn't even anybody elses.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcEY2EcQeZY

>>14662347
not true, there'll be a good mech show in a few years, I'm sure of it

>>14670454
>>14670470
>>14670475
what is there to understand? I get that it's a motif of the show, and we see it throughout, and that culminates to Feldt literally giving Setsuna a flower they grew in a lab for whatever reason, but that doesn't explain the literal giant fucking flower out of nowhere holy shit it's so stupid.

>>14670579
> the literal giant fucking flower out of nowhere holy shit it's so stupid.
Are you literall this retarded?

>>14670583
>Are you literall this retarded?
this is what pisses me off. If you're so smart, why don't you explain how it makes sense?

>>14670646
I don't even. Flower was the only thing associated with peace in poor Setsuna's brain. So aliens made a flower as an offer of peace to all humanity. Was that too hard to understand for you?

>>14656537
00 overall was good.

Not my favorite AU, or Gundam, but I liked it.

>faggot over on /a/ still think lockon didn't have a brother since first season

Also my favourite AU

>>14670656
>aliens made a flower
this isn't really spelled out since it happens instantaneously after setsuna disappears.
I'm still mad desu, I should have taken the one anon's advice and not watched the movie.
>>14670774
there was one scene where he appeared in s1, but some fags on /a/ watch their anime at >1x speed so they probably missed it.

>>14670774
I still think conveniently replacing him with a twin/clone is some shitty god damn writing.

It's just a villain's "LMAO I'M NOT REALLY DEAD!" trick but with an explanation behind it.

I am 15 episodes into 00 and it still isn't growing on me.

Been a couple weeks since I watched an episode, but the "rogue" Gundam trio offshoot of Celestial Being or whatever had just been introduced and done their first op after saving the day and bailing out the main 4's gay asses.

Do the characters ever get better? Really, the only likable one of the main 4 is LockOn. The rest are like Gundam Wing characters, but even more annoyingly depressed.

Also I just don't like the "gimmick" of the SPECIAL JESUS PARTICLES going on with this series.

I think I'm just going to go rewatch 08th MS Team. Fuck this Dragonball Gundam bullshit.

>>14670819
2nd season focuses more on the characters and has less world building stuff, becoming a straight forward 2 factions conflict - although most of /m/ dislikes it due to that.

There is one aspect to the flower I kinda like.

As mentioned, to Setsuna the flower symbolizes peace and the end of the movie indicates that humanity has matured during the events of the series, and is ready to spread out across the universe. That mankind is united and becoming the next stage in our evolution. And this is all coming off of the Cosmic Era.

Remember the SEED factor?

>A factor that determines the course of a species' evolution. The existence of the SEED factor has yet to be proven, and it remains a subject of intense controversy in scientific circles. But in theory, those who possess the SEED factor have the ability to advance to the next stage of human evolution - an ability unrelated to whether the carrier is a Natural or a Coordinator.

The idea is that Kira, Lacus, Athrun, and Cagalli (and Shinn to a lesser extent), those characters alone will determine the path that humanity takes. That they will lead us.

Their version of "peace" is completely at odds with what 00 says. Think about that and all the complaints people have over them. That they grow to be self-righteous, hypocritical, immature, naive, etc. Just try to replace Celestial Being in season 1 with them at the end of Destiny. Not so different really.

The Cosmic Era will never know peace. Kira going in, blowing shit up and bitching about people fighting will only give people reasons to try and take him out. The Cosmic Era is still in it's adolescence, peace is still a seed whereas in 00 it has bloomed.

>>14670819
Give it three more episodes.

>>14670796
I thought it was an asspull too, but I like how some characters expected Lockon II to behave exactly the same as Lockon I (including Lockon II himself at one point), until he became a distinct persona.

>>14670510
What makes it especially disappointing is that the movie completely invalidates all the characters endings we saw at the end of S2. Supplementary materials indicate that there was a worldwide Innovator vs non-Innovator war while Setsuna was gone; you could make a spiritual successor to SEED using that (Destiny and Cross Ange don't count).

>>14670796
It's worse than that. CB had other pilots already in their organization that could have become Meisters. Lyle was a completely untrained outsider whose only qualification was that he looked just like Neil. Yeah, we saw him when Neil went to that cemetery in season 1, but that doesn't make them recruiting Lyle into their "we've kept this a secret for two centuries" army any less stupid.
>>14661908
>>14662575
You're full of shit. It wasn't even "GBF babies" it was "build babbies" and those troll posts were a very small percentage of the general threads. The people bitching about shota shipping massively outnumbered those posts, and people talking about the show, the cameos, and all the never-before-animated side-story ms massively outnumbered the posts bitching about shota shipping.

And if you want to argue how many fans the show had, just look at the number of pics in the collage, there's only one per person (mine is the Zaku II standing over Soundwave, just to the right of Build Strike's hips).

>>14670891
>retard build baby stirring up a dead thread
Top mad

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>>14656537
Rollin

>>14656537
Still my favorite AU.

Build fighters comes close but it's pretty formulaic and that build knuckle shit got out of hand fast

>>14670991
"babby"
three b's.
I know you weren't here for it, but you could at least make an effort to get it right.

>>14670819
>Also I just don't like the "gimmick" of the SPECIAL JESUS PARTICLES going on with this series.

You fucking idiot. GN particles have a more scientific background than Minovsky particles ever had. And yet you you're a UC faggot because you somehow believe it's more realistic ? Give me a break.
Lol lol lol. Minovsky particles are the jail free card of the UC if you hadn't noticed.

>>14671088
Minovsky Reactors are just Muon Reactors but with the power input and output reversed.

Short version: Muon-Catalyzed nuclear fusion is a failed attempt at low-temperature fusion. They work, but it takes more energy to create the muons than the reactor puts out, so it's useless.
Minovsky Reactors work the same way, but create excess Minovsky Particles as a side-effect of the fusion process.

GN Drives are actually further along the science/fiction scale than Minovsky Reactors are. Not to mention that every use that Minovsky Particles have is copied by GN Particles PLUS they enable naked telepathy.

Perhaps you were thinking of Psycoframe, the actual "do anything machine" in UC.

>>14671037
>I know you weren't here for it it
Keep trying, baby.

>>14671088
>GN particles have a more scientific background than Minovsky particles ever had

I'll wait for you to explain this one, because it's pure bullshit.

And I never said that I dislike 00 because GN particles are unrealistic. I dislike 00 because GN particles are used as a catch-all for any potential vulnerability a Gundam may have. Shit only does everything - reinforces armor, the strength of blades, creates a fucking forcefield, fucking jumpjet thrusters, oh, and then there's the magic EMP capability.

They're mary sue particles.