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F91 was better than CCA. As often as people shit on the pacing

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F91 was better than CCA. As often as people shit on the pacing and editing, it's definitely a whole story and not half of one like CCA was. The story required no explanations or previous experience with the franchise. It also wasn't up its own ass with the newtype bullshit. Yes Seabook displayed newtype powers but him being a newtype was a development of the plot and not part of, if not the foundation for it as was the case with CCA. TI didn't try to tell us that newtypes would bring about peace and understanding; By this point Tomino must have realized such a message is no good to anyone in the real world since there's no such thing as psychic powers. Finally, F91 had an actual ending, whereas CCA just stops.
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>>14644105
Nah.
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>>14644105
How does Char's Counterattack "just stop"? Axis was gone, the main conflict settled, Tomino intended to end Gundam completely on that note, but Sunrise didn't want their milk cow to die
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>>14644105
f91 felt like a 26 episode anime crunched into a movie. CCA felt liek a 6 episode ova crunched into a movie. I disagree that its more complete than cca. yeah CCA was a end to three series worth of plot but at least its connected to the series. f91 is not better for being so disconnected, its only a generation away from the OYW shit yet they act like its ancient history, makes no sense. Also I never got the anger over newtypes, if you dislike newtypes then don't watch uc gundam and tomino is not saying we will gain psychic powers and things will be magically better but that people will grow more compassionate and understanding and that will lead to a better future. and as you pointed out its still a theme in f91 and it only compounds the newtype theme in f91's sequels.
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>>14644105
>half of one like CCA

You're giving CCA too much credit. when CCA came out it was more like a 1/4 of a story which is made even smaller by each new entry in the franchise.
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>>14644105
>The story required no explanations or previous experience with the franchise
whereas it completely skipped over or didn't have time to explain things properly in the second half of the movie
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F91 is a masterpiece. Only storyfags dislike it. Easily a 9/10.
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>>14645295
What is it that makes F91's ending so perfect?
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Did F91 predict ISIS and the aftermath of the War on Terror?
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>>14645373

...No?
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>>14644105
>THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING
>an actual ending
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CCA definitely felt more like a feature film. The animation, direction, musical score, etc was showcased throughout.

F91 wasn't bad mind you, I love F91, I just feel like you can see the studio meddling involved in the production. Tomino clearly wanted a series and Sunrise saw dollar signs in another Gundam movie. It really feels like the beginning of a 3 part compilation film with parts 2 and 3 never seeing the light of day.
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>>14645583

I think it's the one anon pushing it as a way to defend F91, since it only seems to come up in F91 threads when someone says that it's the only reason to dislike it.
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...nearly 30 years later and Eternal Wind is still best song.
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>>14645524
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Should I read the rest of the F91? I found the movie ok but seeing the sumary of the manga it seems to have pirates?
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>>14646134
Crossbone isn't "the rest of F91". There is no "the rest of F91", Crossbone is a distant sequel to F91, pretty much its own thing with some returning characters. At least read the original Crossbone manga, you make up your own mind about the Crossbone sequels (Skull Heart, Steel Seven, and Ghost).

>>14645461
>Tomino, dying of old age, returns to direct one last Gundam series.
>An F91 series that continues past the end of the film to the end of the Cosmo Babylonian Civil War.
>AND NOW IT FINALLY ENDS
>Tomino dies.
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>>14646134
Oh, and if you really, really want some more F91, check out the forgettable F90 manga, the strange but more dynamic Silhouette Formula manga, and the Formula Senki game that's apparently decent.
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