Just finished Macross Delta Ep 17. Nice song compilation. Mirage

>>14533725
Bogue went full dere seeing Reina. He was freaking out seeing her way back in episode 8 too... hmmmmmm

>>14533725
>MFW moeshit

>>14533725
Finally some hot YAK DECULTURE action.

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>>14533725
It was gori gori yak deculture.

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Super Deculture

Also they need to fuck

>>14533725
>Mirage still ain't doing shit

What's new about this ? When I say Mirage is most useless character in Delta /m/ jumps on me like there is no tomorrow. Rank's portable music player/phone has more character than Mirage. I swear, Kawamori put her in just to troll you /m/ fucktards.

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bogay is reinafag

>>14533795
>/m/
Does he even know that place exists? It'd be going through a lot of trouble just to annoy an imageboard, let alone one that's foreign.

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>Teddyloid
>Rasmus Faber

The valkyrie outfits were perfect.

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Believe in Mirage

The macross plus movie was nice.

>>14533795
Fuck off back to /a/ Freyjacuck

Mirage just has that Jenius/Female pilot appeal to her. I'm rooting for Freyja but I can't hate Mirage.

>>14534011
Agreed. Also. Mirage has that "she's a good girl" thing going for her too. She's impossible to hate.

>>14534082
>Agreed. Also. Mirage has that "she's a good girl" thing going for her too. She's impossible to hate.

I don't hate her. She's pretty cute as far as elves go. But she's totally useless. On the battlefield and in her "relationship" with Hayate.
You really can't dispute these facts. Furthermore we're already at episode 17 out of 26 the time to redeem her is less and less.

This episode got me shipping Bogue and Reina now. I should be ashamed!

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Maybe this is what they meant when they claimed the triangle is broken. No more love triangles. Just two characters in love with each other. An acute angle.....

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BIG
FAT
TIDDIES

Yes you filthy lesbian, whore your body out more.

>>14534304
It's 25 episodes.

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>>14534370
Makina's tits on the big screen, broadcast to the entire sector. What a slut.

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>>14534386
They are actually just selling Makina's sex appeal.

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>>14534393
I guess they must know their audience well. Walkure was never about music, it was just cleverly disguised softcore porn studio.

>>14534386
>talking shit about hopes and dreams

>>14534395

Arousal, my anti-Var.

>>14534380
26

I am so jealous of Reina

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>>14534393
>>14534370

>>14533795

I'd suggest you're getting jumped because you're conflating a character's personality with how useful they are. Which is kind of silly. And also because you're ignoring that while Mirage has never really done anything, Freyja herself hasn't done anything besides sing and make silly faces since episode 6 or so, when she was accepted in to Walkure and managed to have a successful concert and gain acceptance. Even that's being generous, since she didn't even really have to do anything to gain acceptance. I might as well claim Mirage was useful for those episodes since she trained Hayate successfully or something. Even Hayate isn't terribly interesting as a character frankly.

>>14534408
27

>>14534781

50

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>>14534835
69

>>14534881
5

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>>14534393

Literally just finished the episode 17 and i can think about is my meh dick.

>>14535005
Damn that came out all horrible, i need to stop eating and typing at the same time.

>>14533795
>I swear, Kawamori put her in just to troll you /m/ fucktards.

She's there because a love triangle is expected. The fact that she's nonexistant though probably means she won't win.

Maybe he's still salty over the fanbase not loving his waifu Mikono like he did.

>>14535024
If he's salty about anything, it was probably being told to put in a love triangle when he didn't want to

>>14535065

He could have just made it a triangle in only the most perfunctory sense like in 7 and Frontier. Even Plus and Zeros triangles were pretty one sided. Only SDF really made anything of it.

>>14534386
Sector? Try the entire galaxy! Imagine an uncultured Zentradi Quel-Quallie recon crew suddenly picking up this broadcast freaking out not knowing what they are feeling.

>>14535011

"eating"

>>14533861
>Rasmus Faber

I remember these guys starting out doing frontier covers.

daymn

>Mikumo having absolutely no history
>only urge is to sing

Soon the Wind will free Sharon's apples.

>>14536815
None that she remembers.

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It's so over

>>14534393
HOPES

DREAMS

CONTROL YOUR RUNE BOGUE

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>Here comes the Snow

>Roid wondering why everyone else live longer despite being weak as shit
Probably because even the Protoculture, for all the dumb shit they did, foresaw the possibility of Winderemere trying to take over the galaxy with their superior physique.

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You're tripping balls, Hayate.

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What did she mean by this?

>Met with Winderemerean independence fighters in the war
>Stole a MDE
>Bombed a NUNS base and Winderemerean civilians
He could have defected, but it makes no sense for him to have bombed the civilians as well if he defected.

The so-called independence fighters he met, those were actually Epsilon people, and they used the mindcontrol Var, which they figured out early on, on him?

>>14536911
cunnilingus

>>14536912
They probably bringed the Dimensional Weapon too

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AAAAAAAAHHHHH

>>14536911
Just how sexual are those songs of theirs, anyway?
Considering these are fan subs after all "muh dickulture".

>>14536942
That was actually pretty well-done imo with just looks

>>14536975
>Just how sexual are those songs of theirs, anyway?
VERY

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>this episode

>>14537021

I understand why a girl like Ranka would have a mobile device that defaulted to an cutesy animal shape, but why would a load of guys pick one that did? The three with regular rectangular shaped ones seem more plausible.

>>14537024
Otaku nowadays do that.
Source: /jp/

>>14537024
The one in the back reminds me of the Ranka thing.
He is probably a Rankafag

>>14537054
Looks like a dead fish to me.

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>Huge 3D holograms in the streets

>>14537089
Between that and zetraedi/meltrans makes you wonder how much of the galaxy has a size fetish

What the hell was going on with Hayate when he was listening to Freya singing? The guy looked like he was going through a serious acid trip.
inb4 Freya is subconsciously mind-controlling him with her natural fold affinity as a Windemerean

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>>14537102
Fold resonance.

Note the background behind Freyja, it was blue.
When it happened, the background turned darker, the sweat was in slow motion, and there was light particles.

>>14536869
HEIL BELKA
THE SLEEPING KING HAS AWAKENED
THE GATE HAS OPENED
KUPCHENKO WILL RISE AGAIN

>>14536869
LONG LIVE BELKA

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Satelight really needs to improve their planet textures. I know they're usually in the background, but then you get a shot like this one and it looks like shit.

>>14537102
She's brain-washing him. He doesn't love her, it's actually HER feelings entering his mind and making him think he's in love.

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>>14537145

I played some of the Ace Combat games a long time ago, played some of AC3 (never finished it) and completed AC4, 5 and Zero. For some reason the whole Belka thing didn't leave a mark for me because I can't even tell which of the AC games had something about it in their plot. Pretty sure AC3 had nothing to do with the following games though. Do the Belka memes come from one of the post-Zero games or is my memory that fucking bad?

>>14537159
While I think that Satelight's 3dCGI is better than people make it sound, their texturing is really bad.

>>14537162
It's from ZERO, of course. Belka was one of the main antagonists in there. and they eventually branched out to 5 and 6.
The whole HERE COMES THE SNOW, RECLAIM RIGHTFUL PROTOCULTURE CLAY and MUH HONOR IN THE AIR helps things along.

>>14536942
>Mirage
kek

I'm pretty sure Winderemere is the Yukes.

Epsilon is clearly the equivalent of the Grey Men.

>>14537190
And you know who hijacked the Yukes, right?
Hint, they're a squadron that doesn't exist

>>14534370
My dickulture

>>14537159

He doesn't even think he's in love though. Last episode Mirage directly asked if he had a crush on her and he said he didn't know, that her being a partner wasn't right and that if finding her fun was the sign of a start to a relationship like Mirage suggested it was news to him. He's just dense so that the whole thing can be dragged out as long as possible. He doesn't have bug feelings for either yet and probably won't till the last episode. Maybe the second to last.

>>14537203
>8492.flac plays in the background

>>14537185
>and they eventually branched out to 5 and 6.
5 was the one that introduced Belka, actually, as the not-Germany that lost The War™ years ago (and is secretly causing the current not-US vs not-USSR one to happen), Zero is more or less a prequel since it's set in said war.
Does Belka play a role in 6? Never played it, doesn't it take place in a different continent altogether?

>>14537190
>>14537212
>tfw the Grey Men are actually the command stuff of Megaroad 1

>>14537220
>Does Belka play a role in 6?
Very, very indirectly. One of the Stovie aces, Lorenz Ridel aka Feniks, was Gault 7. Some of the Stovie scientists and military officers were hint to be Belkan refugees as well.

>>14537211
I think he's starting to feel things now, after Mirage mentioned it. But who knows, this is Kawamori: maybe the thing about the broken triangle means no one will end up with no one.

>>14537221
And they're undermining NUNS because of whatever they saw in the center of the galaxy?

>>14537226

I hope not, even if only because all the sad faces and longing looks will end up even more pointless if he goes the 7 route again. The whole thing is the worst part of Delta along with the failure to deliver on dancing variable fighters.

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>Hayate literally gets BTFO by her song
this is a bad omen, right?

>>14537242
Hell, being seemingly 'abandoned' just because they lost contact for a few years might stir up some revenge plot, I guess.

>>14537245

60 years with no contact is hardly 'a few'. If they want revenge for lack of resources and support after making no contact in 60 years it'll only paint the entire crew as idiots.

>>14537257
Them needing resources would not work.

Aren't the fleets self-sufficient?

>>14537263
>>14537257
Constant attacks can still rekt shit. And if the Macross Galaxy was any indication, it could also be a mind meld by some other alien form.
Of course I'm just putting out theories for fun. I'm still convinced about Windermere being SPESS BELKA tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSckBZczS6c

>>14537268

I don't doubt constant attacks can wreck a fleet or that even a Marcross one is vulnerable to some forces. The point isn't that they can't get beaten, it's that coming to the conclusion you're being ignored or abandoned after 60 years of silence is moronic. Even making that conclusion after 60 hours is stupid, since a military, scientific and civilian outfit like them has no reason to assume abandonment above faulty equipment and ignorance on the part of those they're trying to contact if they can't reach them. Especially as f they actually run in to problems with some external force.

>>14537278
All jokes aside though, I'm pretty curious about Epsilon's motivations. Sure the hunt for all Protoculture knowledge might be one, but there's definitely an underlying factor there.

>>14537285

Probably something boring like controlling the entire galaxy, same as Grace.

>>14537294
That just makes the Windermerean War of Independence more fitting as a central conflict.

>>14537305

I can't say as I agree and I'm not looking forward to the whole thing being side lined so that both factions can gang up on the real enemy, never actually addressing the central conflict itself again properly or giving it proper closure.

>>14537321
We'll see. I just hope to see a Pixy character flying soon.

>>14537125
>>14537102

going by the lyrics and her rune and his flashback, I thought that would be the "holy shit, she's in love with me" moment

>>14537368
>>14537125
>>14537102
First love. It blows you away.
Arima Kousei flashbacks intensify

So, we're going with AC5 comparisions for Delta?

Ernest as the captain of the Kestrel is rather appropriate, though Elysion needs to go down for the full experience though.

>The Elysion... is gone
>I've lost time and time again, but now I've finally won
>Huh?
>Look! We launched them off safely. There's my victory.
>As long as they are in the air, I haven't lost. And I know they'll succeed.

マクロスで血で血を洗うせん滅戦ってね、デトロイドが中心になって作品でできないんだよ、マクロスらしくないから、それと歌が中心だし、メックウォーリアやウォーハンマーなのはその為作品の方向性が違う

>>14537389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e2iUKrOi4Q
Fuck you, now I'm humming the tune.

>>14537102
>spoiler
I wouldn't be surprised if the mindcontrol via Var worked in a similar way.

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>still no rips of Delta BD1

>>14537479

I'm not sure if she is mind controlling him with her feelings, but it does seem like Hayate is getting over-exposed to Freya, and I feel like we are going to see him go FREYA-Var or something.

>>14537520
>>14537479
>Freyja-type
>Freyja-nator
>Freyja-vator
>Freyja-Rounder

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I ship it

>>14536781

Tenjin started off with a Macross Fansite showcasing a VF-1 3D model he made.

>>14536781
>>14537565
Platina Jazz cover of Halation the War, Rune, or Cosmic Movement when? Or God Bless You for that matter? We all know Faber is the group's producer after all.

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Yup

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Didn't they explain why her songs blew Hayate away? Mikumo mentions her singing is now different and presented Hayate on a holopic. Love is giving her an even better reason to sing which makes her songs more intense I guess. Clearly Hayate likes this. Still I feel like Mirage will win. If she does, we riot.

>>14537612
Mirage has been such a non character she shouldn't win.

>>14537612
>>14537618
The true winner is The Demon Lord of the Round Table

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>>14537612
Freyja's singing is becoming too extreme for herself and Hayate's safety?

>>14537618
You could have said the same about Misa in SDF

>>14537628
>Freyja's singing is becoming too extreme for herself and Hayate's safety?
Accelerating her aging, eh?
<<<Heh, I'm gonna miss that voice...>>>

>>14537628
>You could have said the same about Misa in SDF
No I couldn't because Misa actually had focus episodes and a mini-arc where she was trapped with Hikaru at the very least. Or really, she just had something at all.

>>14537628
Misa had a few focus episodes.

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>Roid

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>nameless, brown haired bunch of dudes in uncustomized MP VFs
I'll be surprised if any of them survives this episode.

>>14537612

I wouldn't call his reaction or the direction of his reaction even close to liking it. If anything it's suggestive of something bad happening, not him liking it. They may not intend that, but they definitely didn't do it in a manner that says "he likes what's happening".

>>14537668
Oh god those eyes are creepy.

>>14537674
I'm guessing too much fold resonance is kind of a bad thing.

Too much of a good thing is a bad thing, after all.

>>14537673
Oh hey, it's the kids from the 8492nd.

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Is this sufficient to make a toy?

>>14537673
They all have the same hair color so, nah, dead as fuck

>It's a Hayate and Mirage get shot down and have to go full survival mode together episode

There's gotta be something planned to give Mirage a boost out of comrade-zone.

>>14537697
<<< Preparations are complete, ready for battle.>>>
<<< Mobius 1, Engage. >>>

So to get the full Belkan experience, which Ace Combat games do I play and in what order?

>>14537756
5, then Zero three times, Knight, Soldier, and Mercenary routes.

>>14537756
>>14537762
I recommend you try to play ZERO in the order of Mercenary, Knight, and THEN Soldier.
Soldier can be hard for first-timers if you don't know how to balance your kills.

>>14537710
This isn't Sunrise

>>14534393
Well my fold receptors are tingling

>>14537785
>>14537710
No.
Mirage gets shot down and she learns to survive on her own.
She then starts to espouse MUH PEACE.
Kei Nagase.webm

>>14537780
I'd say Mercenary is harder since you have to destroy as many yellow targets as possible if not all of them, and that's a hassle in some missions and in the beginning since you have to make even more of an effort to force the needle Mercenary-wards.
Soldier is easier once you reach balance and if you make the math in advance and already have an idea of how many targets you need to destroy to remain in the middle.

>>14537804
In my opinion, if you had the right weapon you can get Merc on your first playthrough easily.
Say, FLYING AN F-117 WITH FAEBs,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9hCUb9-zwo

>>14537710

Nah, beach episode. After this episode had the shitty cliche of "girl almost confesses her feelings but is interrupted and leaves it go" I'm fully expecting this to go complete shitty harem route and cram in every bad bit of them it can. They'll probably bust up a watermelon while they're there too. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Hayate running somewhere with toast in his mouth at this point.

>>14537822
I think the moment to have any kind of beach episode kind of passed at this point

>>14537862

Making including one extra stupid. Which is why I'm not counting it out.

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>>14536942
Anyone else see Frejya's rune shining as the equivalent of a boner? It creeps me out

>>14537898
Um, it's been pointed out in the early episodes, Freud. Freyja herself said it, and she called Hayate a pervert for that instance.

>>14537576
platina jazz cover of ikenai borderline or giraffe blues WHEN?? WITH VOCALS

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>>14537903
Yeah, that was obvious, but now that it always reacts to Hayate and starts pumping, can't help to think she's a futa

>>14537898
Man, you're slow, we've been making hairpenis jokes since episode 1 or 2.
The parallels seem very intentional at this point.

>>14537932
>Giraffe Blues by Platina Jazz
>Douglas Unger on Vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VG8E63BPY4
Oh yeah, that fucking baritone, man.
Don't know how he'll handle Ikenai Borderline though, unless they give that to Niklas Gabrielsson.

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>>14536942
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
Mirage is so a Noble Confidant

>>14537937
Doujin where Freyja decultures Hayate's ass with her hard throbbing rune when?

>>14537697
5 seconds of YF-19 were enough to make a toy.

>>14537951
Yeah I'd much rather hear Giraffe Blues redone. Despite the quality of the original vocals, I'm put off by the shitty backbeat. Replace that with brushes and you're basically improving the song 150%.

>>14537974
And the entire Platina Jazz brass section. And the keyboards.
Oh lawdie, it'll be like Aquarion all over again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MplkNuTCLi4

Man, this episode was lewd.
Freya was like one interrupting couple of old geezers away from fucking Hayate's brains out.

>>14537951
they could give Ikenai borderline to Emily Mcewan
i think she could pull it off

>>14538007
> Emily Mcewan
Oh yeah, her Aquarion rendition was stunning.

>>14537955
BETA pls

>>14537898
We've been calling Freyja (and all the Windies) runes as a hairpenis for a while now. It's especially come to a head when Freyja let Hayate touch her rune while smiling and not calling him ecchi like in the first episodes. Also, I'd bet that her taking her hands off her rune and letting it pulsate right in Hayate's face is probably the Windies equivalent of something like taking off your bra in front of the man.

Ok, who's going to join the bad guys? Freyja or Mikumo?

>>14538201
Mikumo

>>14537955
has there ever been someone got friendzoned harder?

How's the Macross 7 movie?

The Plus movie was pretty great.

>>14538201
>>14538218
You got it all wrong. Everybody's going to join up with Walküre in the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TEc1SfBaYA
>This is the 703rd NUNS Pursuit Squadron. We're gonna join you.
>This is the Windermerean 172nd Fighter-Bomber Squadron. We like that song too.
>LA LA LA! LISTEN TO OUR BEAUTIFUL VOICE!

>>14538222

It's just a side story with the length of a normal episode.

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>>14537951
>Douglas Unger singing those lewd lyrics

>>14538252
Unger is probably my most favorite collaborator for Platina Jazz. His rendition of Moonlight Serenade, man.

>>14537294
Kodachi Ukyo is the literature advisor in Delta. (Remembers lore that Kawamori doesn't have to) He wrote the Macross Frontier Novels.

The Zauberflute is mentioned part of the Sigur Valens Sound Wave system. The Zauberflute is a Fold Quartz comm system, first mentioned in Macross VF-X2, developed by Critical Path Corporation. Critical Path CEO is Manfred Brando. Manfred Brando is a Lactence associate, sponsor of the the 117th Research Fleet, the guy Ozma punched getting him kicked of Spacy, and one of the voices in Grace O'Connor's head. When Aegis Focker killed him he became an A.I. called Manfred.

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Believe in Mirage.

>>14538276
Oh great, are we gonna get a PIED PIPER story now?

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>>14538278
No

>>14538286
>>14538278
>Insert mecha-musume version of Siegy-chan here

Will no one ever ship the fighters? Just imagine Keith's Draken lusting after the Grim Reaper Siegy-chan.

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>>14538291

Komatsu E-ji needs to get his shit together, he hasn't drawn a Delta mecha-musume yet.

>>14538347
I would so want it if Messer's Siegy was drawn as Razgriz.

Stop making these autistic Ace Combat references they don't even fit.

>>14538380
Sieg Belka

>>14538380
Small country (planet) declaring war on everybody else because secret resources is pretty Ace Combat-ish

Hayate himself said he liked it and blushed at Freyja. DO NOT DENYYYYYY!!!!!!

>>14538625

And his actual reaction makes it looks like he's being overwhelmed in a rather negative way, especially since there the camera zooms in on him gaping and the sound appears to fade away. He might actually be intended to like it, but if he was they picked a piss poor way of representing it. His later line comes off more as him wanting to reassure someone or maybe himself because of it. Also I don't think he blushed at Freyja.

Was there supposed to be a triangle this time?

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>>14538643
>Also I don't think he blushed at Freyja
what was this about then?

>>14538643
>Also I don't think he blushed at Freyja.
Why do you keep saying this?

>>14538654
Apparently Kawamori didn't want one initially but the sponsors said to put one in, probably because of tradition

(That said, why is everybody thinking this is something new for Kawamori when he did this kind of setup before in Evol and Zero?)

>>14538658

I stand corrected then.

>>14538680

I have no idea what you're on about.

>>14538684

SDF is really the only Macross show with a triangle. Maybe II as well, since I can't remember that one. Basara was supposed to be part of a triangle in 7 and just never gave a shit or engaged in it at all. Ranka was supposed to be part of one in Frontier but Alto never indicated any kind of return of her feelings. Mao was supposed to be part of a triangle in 7 but was always treated as a kid with a crush by the show. Guld was supposed to be part of a triangle in Plus and even slept with Myung, but she never showed any real interest in him romantically and I can't see how someone could think she was ever going to choose him. Kawamori putting in apparent triangles and then not paying attention to them is nothing new in Macross, never mind any of the rest of his stuff.

>>14538701
A triangle is a triangle if there's 3 people, and all of these 3 people either like or a liked by someone else in the trio. That's it.

You're talking about some form of love competition that a triangle can and often will turn into

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>>14538701
I don't know where this idea that people needed to overthink the idea of a love triangle (probably due to all the harem manga and shit) but as long as there are three people in some kind of romantic entanglement in any form of degree it is a love triangle

Also, about II, it really only became a love triangle in the last episode and it was fucking shit

>>14538714

If they're all triangles, then this is too for the same reason you just posted since Mirage clearly has feelings for Hayate and has had for 10 episodes or so now, same as Freyja. If this isn't a triangle because Mirage doesn't have a chance (though the show is really stringing the idea along) then none of those are because one side was always clearly left stranded in them too.

>>14538734
Nobody said it wasn't one. It just isn't an equal one or one that had any intentions of being anything other than it's main pairing (like Zero)

>>14538747

This line of inquiry started off exactly because someone thought there wasn't one (>>14538654), so yea, they kind of did actually.

>>14538734
I didn't say it never was a triangle. There's more than two of us here. And yes, I do consider Delta a triangle. In fact there's been a triangle in every macross by this definition. They've been wildly different though.

>>14538760

I didn't say you personally did, but someone did. And I was answering to them. Like you said, there's more than two people here and just because you answer doesn't mean everything is addressed solely to you.

>>14538764
Glad we got this sorted out, anon.

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Please give her the dick

>>14538754
To clarify, I'm >>14538654 and I was joking about how one sided and barely there the triangle in Delta is (which is funny, given the series' name), Mirage's relationship with Hayate is pretty much nothing compared to Freyja's. Most of the time she's just kinda there, like the show doesn't even want to bother giving her much screentime chemistry with Hayate since she's gonna lose anyway.

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>>14533725
Let's not forget the true OTP here

>>14538775
I mean the show has physically passed the point where they could do something in Mirage's direction without it being an asspull of unbelievable proportions, right?

I mean, all it phyiscally would take would be one line of dialouge, but my point is rather, could they even set it up at this point to not be an asspull? As in, is it physically possible anymore?

>>14538786
Bogue will split them apart

>>14538793
That would take some serious asspulling.

>>14538775

I figured, but it's really nothing unusual in a franchise with 7, Zero and Plus. I'd say Ranka had more focus in Frontier, but even with more focus she was largely treated as a non-entity in the love triangle. Freyja is probably going to win but personally I'm kind of sick of her character and never really liked her archetype of a blushing teen girl fumbling through love. Mirage is a rather boring character who is never explored or given anything to do, but I like the idea of her character and at least the show isn't constantly fellating how awesome she is to the point I'm sick of her. I'm not really a big fan of any of the characters in Delta though, and am in it more for the conflict and setting than for them. I'd say I was in it for dancing variable fighters and battlefield idols too, but after episode one those basically got dropped so it's only a lie at this point.

I'm on the verge of dropping Delta, /m/. I have almost no desire to watch episode 17, and I don't think I want to take this series to its conclusion.

>>14538802
Or a lucky hit...

>>14538812
Kawamori wouldn't be that heartless
right?

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>>14538775
Well Kawamori did say the triangle in the logo was broken for a reason

>>14538786
Yes yes they are are OTP and all

HOWEVER

>>14538803
>Freyja is probably going to win but personally I'm kind of sick of her character and never really liked her archetype of a blushing teen girl fumbling through love
They have literally done nothing wrong with her character though, especially for one who is the main female character

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>>14538827
Keep shipping this and you're fuckin dead kiddo

>>14538845

That's the point. She's boring because she's always great and always right and always the best and I'm sick of her.

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>>14538802
This. They have been all over each other for the whole series. You can't separate them anymore.

>>14538827
Borge is like 12 years old, he won't survive a night with the lesbians.

>Makina is only in the group for her giant titties

>>14538827
>>14538901

>Bogue is invited into the Makina/Reina threesome
>he abandons his rough attitude and embraces his inner femininity

>>14538930
Better than being in Delta Squad just to scream "DELTA 5/4!"
At least Makina rakes in the dough like nobody's business.

Mirage just being butthurt every time Hayate even looks at Freyja is just hilarious.

>>14538955
>Bogue's inner femininity
When's Heinz going to embrace his inner femininity? Is he going to join the Hayatebowl?

How is it that Walkure's songs manage to be even more blatantly whorish than the best of Sheryl Nome?

>>14538984
Heinz is manlier than anyone else in his planet. Have you seen the size of his rune?

>>14538994
>tfw you'll never force Heinz to crossdress as you give him the rune
Why even live

>>14538918
>>14538955
>The true triangle was Bouge and the two lesbians. But its a complete triangle so they all love each other.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=5754981&type=all&p=3

Delta emblems along with other shit.

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He's like some kind of Muslim.

>>14538930
She is part of the mechanic team too though

>>14539044
Nah, he's just not Decultured enough yet. Or more like closet Decultured

When will Bogue be forced to sing?

>>14539237
When Makina gets the strap-on during the threeway.

>>14539248

But isn't Reina the sadist?

>>14539264
Hey as long as one of them has the strap on.

Anyways Makina seems the type to be very forceful behind closed doors.

>>14539277
Given that, I have to wonder if she'd be okay with a threesome.

>>14537963
YAAAHOOOOOO

Yeah Reina and Makina have been together but all the yuri shipping is just fans being fans. It could also be platonic. I mean, c'mon this is the second time Reina has triggered Bogue's runes to a suggestive color.

>>14539298
Of course as long as Bouge knows the rules.

I have known quite a few Lesbians that were open to bringing a male into the relationship as long as they knew their boundries.

>>14539313

It's funny you say Reina and Makina is just yuri fans seeing stuff and then start seeing stuff between Reina and Bogue yourself.

Always right? Always the best? What about when she struggles with physical training sessions or couldn't sing after Bogue called her out? I mean seriously she fell on her ass the first concert.We love her because she's fun when she wins and fails.

Bogue's runes went hot pink and he blushed like hell at the sight of her, twice. That's not me seeing things, that's the show making it clear he's got feelings for Walkure.

>>14539339

> What about when she struggles with physical training?

You mean that one time she couldn't produce fold waves because she can't control her rune and then afterwards everyone simply forgot about it and she never makes any effort to control it?

> couldn't sing after Bogue called her out?

I don't actually. The one interaction they had that I recall she calls the Knights out for wasting food and puts Bogue on the spot, with even Hermann and Cashim sympathizing with her and saying she showed up Bogue.

> I mean seriously she fell on her ass

You mean she fell down? Once? Holy shit, that changes everything! It's not like she got up afterwards and just continued on while everyone laughed it off and thought it cute rather than a real mistake.

>>14539352

People would say the same thing about Reina touching Makina's boobs, the two constantly hugging and spending time together and so on. Just because you're sure of it doesn't mean the show is going to do anything with it. Especially when Reina's interaction this episode was just to rebuff him for being cheap.

>>14539325
Really everybody's just seeing stuff

Screw you guys, Im shipping Ernest and Bogue and no one can stop me!

>>14539474

Apples and Water 4 lyfe.

>MY DICKULTURE

>>14539416
Yeah, but I'm still gonna ship it though

Did Bouge accidentally pay a fuck ton to Reina?

Also was Hayate's father controlled or something?

>>14539505

Well sure, acting like one group is delusion while you're seeing what's really intended is just being ignorant though.

Yelling at the scene where Freyja and Hayate are just fucking staring at each other and proceed to NOT fuck.

After Hayate royally fucking up with his "time" comment, I wonder if the twist is that Freyja will say "there is not enough time for us to be together", and the send him on his way to Mirage. That or Kawamori pulls some "Unlocked Protoculture power fixes Windies' lifespan shit"

>>14539597
>Not expecting magic bullshit to save the Windies short lifespan

If anything the hurdle for that is the fucking fact that his dad bombed the fuck out of them. Then again that may change or whatever.

>>14539638

Epsilon is really the only people left who could be responsible since he stole the dimension eater from NUNs and killed Windermerean civilians. They probably mojo'd him in to doing it using Var to intensify the war between the two factions. I'm betting Mikumo used to be their pawn and sang the song of the Wind for them at the time.

Ayyy give it a rest. The girl relies on Hayate to have her shining moments. That alone doesn't make her perfect and "always right".

Has no one thought of the possibility that maybe Wright had no idea the bomb would be big enough to take out civies that were probably far from the NUNS base he targeted?

>>14539672
yeah that is what I am thinking.

>>14539722

Ayyy maybe you could just let me have my opinion and not try to force the issue and then try to end it with a weak post that ignores that Hayate is kind of a meh pilot unless she's propping him up.

>>14539747

No, because if he did think that he's a fucking idiot.

>>14537190
You know, how it'll end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjY6awCr2_c
I wish Delta had an OST at least remotely as awesome as this.

>>14537756
Just play the holy trinity of 4-5-0, you wont be dissapointed.

>>14539597
>Yelling at the scene where Freyja and Hayate are just fucking staring at each other and proceed to NOT fuck.
>mfw literally as the scene was happening, I was like "nope nope nope. Too fucking early. I'm not getting rused by this"

>>14539313
>These two characters that have clung to each other the entire show are just platonic
>but these two that have only interacted each other directly once, which was in a non-friendly way, are totally shippable

>>14540281
>implying I don't OT3 them

Get on the patrician level

>>14540281
While Rei and Maki are completely shippable, you could also ship Bogue simply because he has a crush on Rei. Max has taught us all that species and faction are not boundaries to love.

>>14540354

Why is a manbabby as beautiful as Bogue attracted to the ugliest Walkure?

>>14540362
Shotacon, he probably has a massive hair boner for Heinz too.

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>>14540362
Because Reina is cute!

>>14540362
To be fair, when they're all that good-looking it just comes down to preference. Freyja is cute, Mikumo is gorgeous, Kaname is pretty, Makina is sexy, Reina is... kind of a mix of cute, pretty, and flat appeal. She's not that much worse than the others but she sure doesn't stand out. It just so happens that she hits all the right notes for him.

>>14539862
CUM HISTORIA

No your opinion sucks. Freyja is love.

>>14540388
None of the Walkure girls stand out, they're all pretty generic-looking except Mikumo because she's mysterious. Delta's designs are boring.

>>14537557
I think Makina would be happy to share as long as she gets to join in

>>14533884
Always

>>14533725
I like that ass

What's this dimensional weapon thing, is that a new name for the reaction weaponry from the previous Macross series?

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>>14541440
Dimension Eater weaponry from Frontier.

>*2. *8,742 **8,742 Macross Δ Vol.1 Special Limited Edition
>*8. *1,257 **1,257 Macross Δ Vol.1 Special Limited Edition
9999 BD sold for the 1st one

Album
>*7. *8,054 *,100,686 Walküre "Walkure Attack!"

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>>14541440
Dimonesional weaponry was in Frontier too. Reaction weapons are still around, they are just no longer such a big deal.

>>14541446

Alright, for some reason the one in Delta seemed mighty weak, a 20th century nuke would have done more damage.

>>14541447

What about the non-limited editions?

>>14541491
I don't know.

>>14541482

The one in Delta was probably a tactical warhead with a reduced payload. Even then it still created a fold fault preventing easy access to the planet and is still causing atmospheric effects 7 years later. Which a 20th century nuke wouldn't do. It might irradiate the area for 20, 000 years as a passive effect, but it wouldn't still be crackling years later.

I'd also guess that it exploded mid-air and not on contact given the size of the crater and footage we've seen.

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>>14541482
>done more damage.
Depends on how you define damage.

Dimension Eaters are more of a case of removing everything in its range from existence.

Besides, the really big one in Frontier is the one used on Gallia IV which took like 1/3 of the planet. The others are much smaller.

>>14541491
There is no limited edition.

>>14541491
The limited editions are like first press offers. You get like a box for storing etc. It's not that there's a regular version sold

That said, there's actually special special versions, that include limited edition artwork on posters, or a larger box, that depended on what outlet you bought the show on, and they require you to buy all 9 discs. Those're sepperate listings though, but they wouldn't be rocking super high numbers.

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>>14541495

At the 2/3 point of the Cold War, the USSR (and likely the US too) were already technically able to produce warheads with enough destructive power that a strike would have, based on simulations at the time, caused a nuclear winter on Earth. Now, Windermere may actually be a lot bigger than Earth (haven't checked) and have a different atmosphere, but I'm still surprised that something so powerful and futuristic that it made reaction weapons obsolete didn't do more. Pic in >>14541448 actually fits the kind of damage that I'd expect.

>>14541532
As mentioned, different scale.

The big one is most probably considered overkill to the extent that its impractical.

And Dimension Eaters need fold quartz which is rare, the amount of fold quartz needed to make a big one like in >>14541448 would probably be enough to make more smaller ones instead.

>>14541532

I'd call bullshit on that, since the Tsar Bomba was the largest nuclear detonation ever made and it only had a yield of 50 megatonnes. Even it's maximum expected yield was only 100 tonnes if I recall, and that's only about 25% of the power of something like the explosion of Krakatoa. If simulations really did say they could technically cause a nuclear winter, then I'm betting either those simulations were faulty or were operating on a "worst cases scenario, let's assume everything else goes as bad as possible" field as well.

I don't know what size Windermere is compared to Earth (though I'd bet similar size due to it being easier on sci-fi writing), but the size of the blast isn't the only measure of how advanced something is. The main advantage and advancement of reaction weapons was that there was no nuclear fallout radiation to worry about, though they probably had a higher possible yield too. MDE's have a higher possible yield as >>14541448 showed, but just because your bomb can have that yield doesn't mean you build every warhead to achieve it. Smaller yields are often useful for tactical purposes.

>>14541545

Fair enough. I'm guessing the effect of dimensional weapons is to transport matter somewhere else through folding? Or does it actually send the matter to another dimension?

>>14541557
>A type of high-energy reaction warhead utilizing "super" heavy quantum to achieve a gravitational-dimensional collapse in three-dimensional space (real space) similar to a black hole. Mechanically simple, a dimension eater consists of a resonance fold pulse generator that uses fold quartz within a storage vessel for the super heavy quantum fuel that creates the destructive reaction.
>Once initiated the dimension eater produces a " pseudo-black hole" effect of intense gravity called a "super gravitational field" that violently transitions itself and everything caught within the field into fold space.

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BELKA WILL RISE AGAIN!

>>14541562
LONG LIVE MIR...uh, LONG LIVE BELKA

>>14541557

The main effect is a temporary black hole that compresses all matter to an infinitesimally small point for a short time before it collapses in a massive explosion I think. It's just a big bomb using super dimension energy and heavy quantum stuff same as the Macross guns. I don't think it folds matter elsewhere and the fold fault on Windermere is unique to that explosion in the franchise as far as I know, since I don't think the ones on Gallia IV or elsewhere caused fold issues.

>>14541560
So it's like a fold jump but without the part of coming back to normal space? Weird no one thought about it earlier.

>>14541692

Not really, because it doesn't just fold stuff in to super dimensional space and call it a day - it implodes/compresses everything and folds the remains away. Just folding on its own wouldn't be much good since they could probably just fold back.

Complaining about the size of a tip is a serious camgirl faux pas

>>14541845
Well it's Bogue though so it's okay

>>14541845
It didn't look like Bogue knew what he was doing.

>>14541933

Does somebody have a translation of the buttons on the hologram phone Bogue was holding?

>>14541988
I don't speak Moon but it doesn't look like kanji at all.
It's most likely a "Windermerean" version of the word pay.

He's clicking that stuff out of shock and there's probably no real turn it off button.

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>>14542047

Looks like moonrunes to me. Also, it ain't a pay button, there's already a charge button and one shaped like a coin.
The balance doesn't change either when he presses it. It's probably a "fanservice" button that triggers things like showing lewd pics based on the owner's balance (same as Makina's case earlier), hence Reina's reaction afterwards.

>>14542107
Okay, looking at it a second time, the lower one looks kind of like the symbol for gold.

Still think all of them say the same thing considering all are written in a different script.

>>14542133

There might be one button for each member of Walkure, with a script difference meant to represent something about each of them.

>>14542144
Or maybe is just different languages: english, japanese, ragnese, windermerese... They're trying to reach the widest audience, after all.

>>14542167
>There is a language that is literally coins

>>14542243

Probably for whatever space-races that don't have a written language (or dumbfuck humies who can't read).

>>14542243
Hebrew?

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>>14542305

oy vey

>>14542133
Considering that concert was a carrier for electronic attack I would say that each button is assigned to a planet or sector and users by clicking are installing botnet themselfs. Better dispersion and allows for precise map of where worm has already nested itself.

>>14542292
>(or dumbfuck humies who can't read)
Wouldn't that be more suited for orks?

>>14542651
I think that would be dumb, say someone at wind planet knew and liked jew lenguage if he clicked it they would install the different virus, each of the buttons probably has the same virus on there

It just occurred to me but how many actual concerts have we had in this show? Like 3?

>>14541495
>It might irradiate the area for 20, 000 years as a passive effect, but it wouldn't still be crackling years later.

Um, 20,000 years is plenty significant to a race with a 30-year lifespan.

>>14541845

reina complaining is clearly fanservice, though. people picking reina like her tsun personality, so her deriding them for being cheap is actually what they're looking for.

>>14542729
Depends on how we define "actual concert"

Stage, audience, light show etc? 3 have all three of those elements.

If we include more impromptu ones, we get more than that.

Next episode is about plot?

>>14542843
It's the first actual meeting of the main characters with a Knight that doesn't involve murder intentions so probably very important yes

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Noticed some assume Freyja will die at exactly 30 when we have two Windermeran characters, Herman and Gramia, who lived past that age.

Also, anyone excited by the idea of a Macross Delta movie adaption?

>>14542901
Their official lifespan is stated to be 30-35. Even if she makes it to 35 it's still not much.

>>14542793

It's a significant length of time to anyone that doesn't measure time using eons. The point isn't that radiation doesn't stay around a long time, but that a modern nuke has different effects and bad as radiation is, other effects, like an atmospheric effect or fold one can be just as significant in different ways.

It's not much but it's still more which is a plus for these two. 20 years of GoriGori-ing!

>>14542901
30 is more like a median age

>>14542923
>radiation doesn't stay around a long time

You clearly don't understand how radiation works.

>>14542917

Do all Windermereans go through the "grey skin falling apart" thing like the king did when they reach their final years or was that just from him being a stubborn dude who lived way longer than the others? At least we know they don't get wrinkles from last episode.

>>14542961

You clearly don't get basic comprehension. I wasn't say that radiation doesn't stay around a long time, I was saying that the point of the quoted post wasn't that radiation had a long half life but that other effects can be just as devastating in other ways.

>>14542970
Herman has the dry skin too, it's how old age shows in them.

>>14542970
a few other older characters have the white rash thing going on, so I'd presume it's some sort of accelerated genetic decay that kills them.

>>14542994
>You clearly don't get basic comprehension.

Says the person who thinks one WMD isn't as bad another WMD, despite both being terrible things to begin with.

>>14543057

Are you just determined to find something to be angry about? And yes, while all WMDs are bad, just like death of any kind is bad, some WMDs are worse than others. The matter dimension eater used on Gallia IV is objectively worse than a nuke. A nuke is bad and you can't live in the area for millinea, but if a quarter of a planet simply disappears and can never be lived on again, not even in 4 billion years, then that is worse.