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Just beat me out. Oh well.

>>14477608
>Raianon misses Rai's birthday

Considering what happened last year I'm surprised you missed it this year.

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>there are people in this general RIGHT NOW that aren't planning to waifu Tenia

What's your excuse?

Dracodeus > Brachium > Raftclanz > Gespenst Hawken > Super Soul Saber FF > Excellence Gunstriker > Leonisis Varga > Leonisis Harga > Super Soul Saber GG > shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brigandi

>>14477615
I like glasses

>Evens
@3
>Odds
Z1

>>14477622
Hope you like STMC forever.

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>>14477615
I thought she is doing this.

Amara: Sequence.... endo....!
>Robot does "looking down with eyes glowing" pose

Why is she so edgy

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>>14477611
I was busy with other stuff and was just happy to finish and post the porn on time.

Besides, everyone was having so much fun being retarded over MD.

Since when did we have a Raianon
What did I miss

>>14477632
>Since when did we have a Raianon

Since about just as long as I've been managing the pastebins and making a nice chunk of the threads.

He usually picks up the slack for me, but the MD storm has all sorts of anons making threads.

>>14477628
It's Euzeth's fault.

>>14477600

\m/ ]m/

>>14477632
Go back to Gamefaqs

I should be more upset about the translation, but I expected all along to get something stilted and awkward but still readable like Digimon Cyber Sleuth, and that's what we're apparently getting.

>>14477615
Katia's eyes

>>14477647
I still wouldn't pay for it myself.
At least one day I'll be able to read the japanese version.
I'M SURE OF IT

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>scrolls some sprites from OGG to convert to .png...

WTF is this?

>>14477567
>Valzacard unable to partake in Maximum Break

Do Maximum Breaks in OG even serve a purpose outside of securing some of those retreating boss-based SR Points?

Even Z3's Maximum Breaks were shit because the Tag Tension commands completely outclassed them.

>OG with Tag Tension

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Will Tou-ya wear the same outfit as his father and be the Protector of the Imperial Family the next time J appears?

>>14477666

Well even if I didn't wnat to pay for it, and I do still want to, Playasia doesnt let you cancel preorders anymore.

>>14477489

Viletta AND Ing need to fight the Varuch Ben within 3 turns.

>>14477668
The turrets from early in Ryusei's route

>>14477668

I may be wrong, but I THINK they were in OG1 protecting Bian's stronghold. The stage where the Kurogane rises from out of the harbor.

>>14477668
It's a railgun drone if I remember correctly, you fight them a lot in OGs

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>>14477615
Fiona is my excuse.

>>14477672
UGH, someone fix Akurasu then, not that guy though that asked

>>14477668
Aren't those the turrets from OG1, show up when you fight Bian and Shu?

>>14477669
They eliminate the main/sub damage penalty and thus let you put out higher damage, plus they look great. I forget if they increase rewards.

And yeah, I think buying Full Block for the whole party really fucks with XN-L's AI. She finally started using her MAP and attacking Touya who'd been standing there at critical HP once Shining Storm started playing, but by then it was kind of too little too late.

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>>14477676

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>>14477615

Can she open her chest compartment? No? Ok then.

>>14477652
>the old men ran out of money

>>14477668
I miss when we used to have normal enemies.

>>14477694
What the the heck happened to the DC, anyway? They sort of just vanish after early 2nd OG.

>>14477689
>liking background characters

>>14477615
Because I like Ibis
>>14477676
A Fiona is fine too

>>14477699
There just doing a neo zeon

>>14477673
>>14477674
>>14477675
>>14477679
>>14477694
Ok, thanks. That is something that is not going into the chart then.

>>14477699
>What the the heck happened to the DC

Are you forgetting that they came back TWICE so far?

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How will the Steel Dragons beat Keisar Ephes without Basara?

>>14477703
THE DIVINE CRUSADERS WILL RISE AGAIN

Post TOKI HANATE

>>14477709
>with a barrelion that has smaller barrelions that act like funnels

>>14477706
That doesn't mean they can't come back again. After 2nd OG had the Hagane killing the president, I expected even more idiots to join the DC.

>>14477711
HAGANE NO YAIBA

>>14477707
They have Axel, they'll be fine.

>>14477709
>wanting neo neo neo new DC remnants when the shift is going to the balmar empire
end yourself

>>14477713
Barrel Bits.

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>>14477700

You got a problem with background characters!?

>>14477719
ONLY DIVINE CRUSADERS CAN DEFEAT THE BALMAR use DC remnants with generic new characters to pad the game 5-7 stages becaues bamco is lazy

>>14477717

Has it been uploaded? What's even the song's name?

Is the LE worth it?

Might get it or not if the price's not too high.

>>14477719
Neo DC will stop the space Jews

>>14477707
Someone will shout GONG WO NARASE, dead people will cheer, Keisar Ephes will get another pile of HTB Cannons shoved up his ass.

Or we'll get some new OGs to be the OG equivalent of Fire Bomber.

>JAM Project voice the Fire Bomber expies

>>14477722
What about Funnelions?

>>14477711
YAMI NO KANATA oh wait, wrong song

>>14477715
The idiots all joined the Gaia Sabers

>>14477707
Waifus

>>14477726
Shining Storm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZvBcWp5V4w

>>14477729
>>JAM Project voice the Fire Bomber expies
STOP SAYING AWESOME THINGS THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN

>>14477699
Every notable individual from them is dead by now.

Would be a nice touch to, in the next game, have a early mission where the Steel Dragons are sent to deal with the very last DC holdout.

Their final thrump card is the Gravilion.

>>14477707
SRW V's protagonist will be not-Basara.

>inb4 "why wouldnt they include m7 for sick original plot synergy"
Because having 2 fucking Basaras would make J look balanced.

>>14477726
Shining Storm 〜烈火の如く〜

Single comes out on the 25th but in the meanwhile we have the READ THE OP

>>14477729
that'd be too much effort

>>14477725
nah man, no one is going to take the DC banner ever again
pretty much all honchos there were pyscho assholes, why the fuck would Bian hire them in the first place?

>>14477699

The few survivors that were left (Murata, the evil School trio etc) were folded into the GS. And wiped out with them.

Considering their entire cause is "We can protect the earth better than the Earth Forces" only get upshown by the Earth Forces 4 fucking times, them having no legit leader after OGG, and with them being tricked and screwed over 3 times into some crazy guys evil plan..yeah there's probably not alot of guys signing up for the DC anymore.

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>>14477523
And that thanks to Lamia.

In Alpha, they start stronger then MC, so they are more then happy with their strenght even with their all shortcoming

But in OGs(og2), Lamia told them to their face that they are weaker then her timeline SRX team.

(Which force them to work harder to become stronger)

>>14477727
Not really. The only neat thing about it is the Obari art, otherwise, it's pretty mediocre.

>>14477729
>Someone
Sanger*

>>14477746
> why the fuck would Bian hire them in the first place?
They were the only ones actually interested in overthrowing the current governments.

>>14477717
REKKA NO GOTOKU

>>14477729
I would kill for OG to get a Not!Basara with Not!Fire Bomber

Post your face when the actual JAM Project members appear to sing GONG during Keisar Ephes piloting some robots with instruments and stuff.

Not actually characters voiced by them. The band itself. They look like Final Fantasy characters already anyway

>>14477753
VOLTAGE WA TOMARANAI
M O T T O

>>14477732
What about bitlions

>>14477707

Cobray: You red heady shouty man. Tell us to listen to your song.

Axel: Uh I don't sing kore ga na?

Cobray: JUST SAY IT!

>>14477740
What happened to that guy in the Valsione Custom CF?

>final battle with Keisar Ephes
>Axel suddenly possessed by some extra-dimensional force
>"A-Axel what's wrong"
>"The fire rises...LISTEN TO MY SONG!"

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>>14477707

Apparently out Basara is gonna be a couple of lolis......

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>>14477756

>>14477707
by that time Cobray will be in the rooster and use a recording of how they beath Ephes in @3 with the GONG song

>>14477764
Axel then stabs himself with a spear.

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>>14477653
I wish there was a blushing Katia sprite.

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Hey guys can I get a upgrade?

>>14477765
Latooni can't sing

>>14477765
>We get Neige next game
>Triple Fairlion Special

Clearly Nana Mizuki will save us from Keisar Ephes.

>>14477775
Mobius One doesn't need upgrades.

>>14477768
Why would he be in a rooster

>>14477775
WHY IS THIS STILL A THING

>>14477775
They'll scrap the Ashsaber since it's a piece of shit and kitbash until they get a not-Ashcleef flight mode.

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>>14477746
Most of world join DC
After Bian death, those who comment hideous crimes couldn't return back and stay in DC

(One of main reason why DC leader in OG2 didn't leave DC after Bian death since they need one to take care of them)

>>14477784
I really do hope that one anon was right and they give us a trophy if we bring it into the battle with Keisar Ephes.

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>>14477779
>Neige

Uhhh if she shows up I would change my stance on the lolis.

>>14477784
holy shit, why are they still making planes at this point?

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>>14477756

>>14477795
What else will Cipher pilot?

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>>14477764
>the fire rises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odr1OQ6FiP4

>>14477775
>Got this
>Never got the Waldung or Government
>Will never play Normal Vehicle Wars

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>>14477756

>>14477799
>>Will never play Normal Vehicle Wars
You mean Advance Wars?

>>14477789
>plane's wings emmit laser blades
>a bit gun/halberd launcher mounted below the cockpit
>missiles because of course it'd have missiles
>loaded with 4 or 6 enhanced sword breakers
>still just a fucking plane
FUND IT

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>>14477796
>10/10
Ryusei approved!

>>14477810
>It can transform
>into a different plane

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And the animus of the huckebein

>>14477819
Literally perfect.

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>>14477813
>>Ryusei approved!

About that...

>>14477819
>We barely get to use this thing
>Replaced by a really boring unit

I still miss it.

>>14477824
>punched by a robot

He still loved it

I am experiencing a heavy case of SRW burnout and do not own a PS3

what do

>>14477832
masturbate to kusuha

>>14477828
He got sucker punched so I don't think he even knew he got punched.

>>14477819
I miss this traffic cone.

>>14477746
>retty much all honchos there were pyscho assholes

Van was practically a good guy

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>not including one of these in your LE
bad marketing

>>14477834
>kusoka
ew no

>>14477840
Granteed is one ugly motherfucker.

>>14477839
He was like the only one and went along with everyone else's nonsense

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>>14477824
>>14477828

Source?

>>14477840
>dat face

>>14477846
It's the color scheme, I swear.

>>14477846
I prefer Granteed's eternal kittyface over Dracodeus mechface that I certainly have not seen a billion times before, and definitely not in OG

>>14477849
It's porn, but if you want a link I'd suggest checking exhentai for Akusei Shinseibutsu and of course SRW

>Someone translated a SRW doujin

The stars have aligned!

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/953095/39a17e21db/

>>14477819

has more character and soul than its upgrade ever will

>>14477848
At least we'll get to see him again when he shows up in the GONG event.

And Fu-Lu.

>>14477862
I've been waiting for this. Fapped to it a couple of times in Japanese.

>>14477865
I dunno, I find the Exexbein's special new weapon quite tasty.

>>14477869
Oh, is that what you're into?

>>14477869
You like that BBC, don't you?

>>14477862
>SRW doujin are either lune, seolla or kaguya

Why

>>14477872
I do like sliders, yes.

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>>14477855
Poor Rai...

>>14477874
or Kushua

>>14477874
>Kaguya

You mean Kusuha.

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>>14477862
>it's a lune doujin

>>14477875
Amerifat here.
Can confirm that sliders are fantastic.

>>14477869

>robot held together with ducktape

>generic spiky robot with goggles

come on

>>14477880
Could be worse.

Could be a Kusuha doujin
or a Seolla doujin

>>14477884
Those are the best ones

>>14477874
>Kaguya

bullshit, I haven't seen any

Just be glad Fujos havent discovered SRW and are not spamming gayshit

>>14477738
Or Aniki.

We can have a cutin of him just glaring angrily at the player.

>Kusuha has a porn star body and a shy personality

That never made any sense. Is she as wild in bed as she is in combat though?

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>>14477862

I think we've gained something here.

>>14477846
All the J mechs are ugly desu senpai

>>14477891
They're the only ones.

>>14477899
the coustwell is sexy tho

>>14477895
>Ichiro Mizuki vs Ichiro Mizuki

Oh boy.

>>14477897
Based on her combat's quote, yes

Can someone remind me how the Time Flow Engine works? Something about time particles or some BS like that?

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>>14477895

>>14477893
Which seems weird considering how wing has been in a bunch of srw

>>14477899

Such shit taste should be punishable by law.

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>>14477908
Time particles

>>14477824
> I can't draw robots
Heh.

>>14477846
Looks good to me.

>>14477908
You know what Chronotons are? What a silly question. Of course you know what Chronotons are. I mean, that's shit you learn in the fifth grade. You'd have to be some sorta fat, disgusting, snotty, mucus-producing, greasy, ugly, LOSER to not know what those are.
Anywho, the Excellence units use those to do both stuff and things, and not particularly in that order.

>>14477824
Why is Shine such a bitch?

>>14477919
Are you talking about me?
You boys just can't keep your eyes off me, your dear older sister.

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>>14477862
>it's a greasy fat men fuck hot girls doujin

>>14477930
You can self-insert easier.

>>14477932
But I'm skinny and am not over 50.

>>14477897
>>14477891
Steel Heroines

>>14477927
AIDONEUS ISLAND

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>>14477748
Uh, they fixed up the SRX to be more stable before anyone knew Lamia was a spy, let alone before she came back and spilled her guts. It was kind of the obvious thing to do after the L5 Campaign, which started off with a failed combination, continued with a combination that could only last for three turns, and eventually managed to hold together by Aya thinking really hard. Of course they were going to fix that shit up as soon as everything calmed down and they got permission.

I don't think they react to anything about the SRX in Lamia's monologue besides "wait, where'd they get Tronium?" SM SRX died to Beowulf anyway, they're shit

>>14477763
I think he died? Duminas kills him or something.

>>14477927
I don't have a sister or a brother.

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>>14477927

>>14477748
> Lamia told them to their face that they are weaker then her timeline SRX team.
Considering they were beaten off screen, Lamia doesn't know shit or is trying to trash talk them like her older sister.

>>14477941
I remember my self 10 years ago discovering those doujins after rediscovering SRW through OG and becoming obsessed with it.

That stuff made me cum REALLY hard. I wonder if they're still good.

Why is Xenia so perfect

>>14477748

> Lamia told them to their face that they are weaker then her timeline SRX team.

i dont get this. was SRX with SM in her universe or the EF? and it doesn't make that it was stronger, I thought it lacked tronium and rai was dead in that timeline

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Tenia vore when

>>14477961
It had Tronium, despite the fact that this was impossible because there was no Meteor-3 in the Shadow-Mirror universe. Someone else provided them with the Tronium instead, but nobody has been explicitly named as the provider yet.

>>14477748
>>14477950
>>14477961
> SRX was better in the Shadow Mirror dimension

>>14477961
Beowulf rekt SM SRX

>>14477961
probably was also part of the earth federation
as for the tronium, she just mentions that somehow they still got it despite no meteor-3
all the bransteins are dead though, so someone else was in the R-2 fridge

>>14477970
I bet it was Euzeth.

>>14477975
>Shadow Mirror Earth is revealed to actually be Atreem

SRX on Atreem is the strongest!

>>14477976
In anime (none-canon) it was back step attack ( he could even touch something while it was still in hanger)

But what about the game?

>>14477969
One day

I want to taste the local delicacies of Atreem.

>>14477970
either Euzeth or one of the Zovorg faggots gave it away
I'll stick with the latter, Zezenan is the kind of moron to do the latter
>>14477985
in the games we neer see Beowulf do anything besides appearing in the prologue, ready to reky Axel and the shadow mirrors before they jump to the OG verse
whether Axel beat him in the games or not we don't know, probably not given how triggered he got everytime he saw Kyosuke

>>14477982
If they're so strong then why couldn't they save Atreem?

>>14477985

as far as we know, canonically the SRX is still active in sm verse. only the anime says beowulf killed them (and all the other steel dragons apparently)

>>14478005

the invaders are competent on atreem

>>14478005
Beowulf(Kyosuke) could easily backstab them by doing something to R units while it was till in hangar

>>14478003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqgrIemtzSs

>>14478007
is that what fatlus told you?

>>14478018
Show us where the game says anything about the SRX Team being killed in the SMverse.

>>14478005
Everything is better on Atreem. This includes the Edax, who while laughably shitty on Earth, were far more dangerous than Perfectio on Atreem. It's fortunate that Perfectio never invaded Atreem or we'd be in real trouble.

>>14478018

i dont have any other reason to think otherwise. That scene in the anime was 100% for shock factor and to trigger SRX fanboys

>atreem was kadoam hakam homeland

>>14477911

I don't get those ads.

Are they trying to terrify the fans into buying the games?

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>>14478030

>>14478040
>srw ZET!
That's why

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>>14478043

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>>14478050

>>14478030
>>14478043
>>14478050
EXPIRED SOON

>>14478056
You. I don't think I like you.

https://youtu.be/nLp0ZJGaL8E?t=1m35s

>>14478056
Sprinkle a little bit of salt and put her in the fridge and everything will be fine.

>tfw SM Kyosuke is what happen if Mizutani dies

Deepest lore..

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>>14478064

>>14478064
Delete this.

>>14478061
my favorite meme

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>>14478067

Its about having a family anon.

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>>14478066
>>14478064

I like where this is going.

Gotta use them before they spoil.

>>14478070
Baby Haken?

>>14478072
I can understand not wanting to use Spiral Power to resurrect people, but why didn't Simon use Spiral Power to keep her from dying in the first place?

>>14478064
This is sexual harassment you know

>>14478075
It's okay if it's Kyosuke.

>>14478074
It'd be basically the same thing then. Stopping her from dying would probably be the same as bringing her back to life

>>14478078
What a playboy

>>14478073
Yes

>>14478079
Not necessarily. The reason she died was because of the Anti-Spiral genes; if you can modify or remove that, you can keep her from dying without having her be on Spiral Power life support.

>>14478079
I guess it'd be a bad example for others if he justified it that way too

>>14478074
Nia wanted to go out on her own terms.

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>>14478064 is page 2

This is page 3

Kyosuke and Arrierre gets a combo attack for no reason

>>14478088
That's still the same principle.

I need your help, /srwg/.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10717295

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>>14478075
You overestimate my knowledge.

>>14478094
Well someone needs to have a combo with him for when Excellen dies.

>>14478096
Guess all the doctors should stop helping people since that's the same as playing god

>>14478099
Obari Tasuku looks more handsome then regular Tasuku

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>>14478093
Real page 4

>>14478104
There's a fine line between using medicine to help someone and using literal Godlike powers to save someone

>>14478105
Any Tasuku is handsome

>>14478090

this. he didn't want things to be a repeat of what happened when everyone went out of control with spiral power

>>14478096
> Creating giant galaxy-slinging robots is okay
> Healing one of the people who saved the universe isn't
I realize it was an arbitrary thing and the point was the shock value and to try to have Simon make a moral lesson, but I still found it a stupid twist.

>>14478104
Using self-destructive space magic is different from using your bare hands and God-given herbs.

>>14478108
> Hand-holding
SPOILER THAT SHIT

>>14478114

>using god powers to get what leading to the destruction of all life in the universe is ok

Gurren Lagann is a baddie.

>>14478114
Again, the point was where does it end? Even the TTGL was considered a bit of an extreme. If humanity didn't limit themselves then they would go drunk on their own power, and the spiral nemesis would happen

>>14478116
Its hand-holding between two girls anon.

>>14478117
>spiral powers eventually cause a big crunch
>destruction of the universe

GL fanboys are the worst.

>>14478114
The cast took the ideal to prevent the Spiral Nemesis after they had killed the Anti-Spiral.

They didn't have that resolve, nor reason, before the fight.

>>14478117
So instead of setting an example of using the power for healing we just let everybody die instead?

>>14478124

Not him but it's kinda like the climate change thing. Yeah, earth will still be around, there's nothing we can do that this planet can't handle. But we're kinda fucked, so that's not much of a consolation.

Unless you're Galactus, nothing will survive the big crunch. The universe itself surviving is irrelevant.

Spiral powers were better in Atreem

>>14478114
Because there is a difference between using medicinal herbs, man made medicine, etc. and trampling in Gods domain just to save the life of one person that didn't want to be brought back.

>>14478134
Wasn't wasn't better on Atreem?

>>14478131
He's setting the example of not using the power even when he really, really wants to. It's an arbitrary line and in some ways an unsatisfying one, yes, but the point is to show that Simon, and by extension humanity, has the capacity to say "no, that's enough". Without that, the Anti-Spiral would be right.

>>14478133
Not nearly the same thing, because the alternative to a big crunch is the heat death of the universe, which is far more horrifying. Fucking thermodynamics.

Also the timescales involved are many many orders of magnitude larger than you could reasonably expect any humans to exist for.

>>14478143
>Not nearly the same thing, because the alternative to a big crunch is the heat death of the universe, which is far more horrifying. Fucking thermodynamics.

I hope you realize that in both situations, nothing survives that outcome anyway, the only difference is the big crunch can lead to life EVENTUALLY.

And maybe I'm just a narcissist, but I like living regardless.

>>14478131
What fucking ridiculous standard are you bullshitting up now?
They now have to let people die with no medical treatment because they vowed to not rely on Spiral Power?
Spiral Power that, you propose, to use to save the life of a person who is both a unique case of a being whose existence was entirely dependent on Spiral Power?

>Dracodeus has to wait ages to get its finisher
>Al-Van pops up the stage before
>his Raftclans' finisher shits on all three of Touya's Dracodeus', including in terms of animation
What did they mean by this?

>>14478142
I don't see how, maybe the show explain it poorly but is spiral power not another source of energy like heat, electricity. or water? If they really wanted to show its dangerious then why did they spend the entire show showing how awesome using spiral power is. You can't just show it in a positive light then turn around and say "lol nope too dangerious don't use it"

>>14478137
>trampling in Gods domain
Oh fuck off with your religious pandering.

Unless Simon plans to ban humanity from using spiral energy at all, letting his waifu die was not reasonable or moral at all.

>>14478143

All we need to do is achieve Shinka and then survive the end of the cycle.

How hard could it be?

>OG game still never bother with dynamic kill

baka desu senpai

Man, fuck kill count related secrets that don't take starting kills into account. Just let the units join with 0 kills.

>>14478160
Because towards the end of the show we see what Spiral power does when left untamed. It could destroy us just like any other form of energy, the difference is that Spiral Energy is far harder to keep in check due to what causes it

>>14478164
>letting his waifu die was not reasonable or moral at all.
It was the morally right thing to do.
I'm sorry that you're waifu died but you can't just poof things back to life

>>14478168
Then late game units would literally never get Ace Bonuses.

>>14478160
>but is spiral power not another source of energy like heat, electricity. or water?

No, it's a power that defies conventional properties of physics and logic. Defying the conservation of mass and energy. The fundamental logic behind Spiral Power is that the universe can't withstand this, especially when ever sapient race in the universe is freely using it.

>>14478171
>It was the morally right thing to do.
No it wasn't.

Well, good talk everyone.

>>14478168
>UX kill requirements for secrets
>especially on subsequent playthroughs
So, this is hell

>>14478164
>letting his waifu die was not reasonable or moral at all.

It was her decision. Prolonging her life would be the immoral option.

>>14478177
Here's your (you). I was gonna give you an actual response but you don't deserve a rebuttal

>>14478180
That's an entirely different argument. Letting someone commit suicide is fine. Refusing treatment for someone because of religious nonsense is not.

>>14478170
>Because towards the end of the show we see what Spiral power does when left untamed.
We did? All I remember is Anti-spiral is showing Lord genom a bunch of things but the dangers of using Spiral Power never came into factor in the actual plot. It helped humanity overcome their oppressors but at the end we must turn our back to it after it done for Simon and the gang? For a show that preaches progression and the future it really wants us to remain stagnant.

>>14478187
Not him but I'm pretty sure the god thing was a metaphor.

>>14478190
You're misunderstanding, humanity still moves forward by reaching out to the other spiral races and still uses spiral energy in moderation which we can see by Gurren Lagann still in action in the epilogue, but humanity can't rely too much on spiral power or else it will grow out of control and cause the spiral nemesis

>>14478160
No, Spiral Power is different from heat or electricity in that it produces a limitless amount of something from nothing. In small amounts this is fine, even in amounts like making new planets it's not going to cause any harm. But the nature of Spiral Power tempts the user to go further, dream bigger, more and more without limit until there's simply too much stuff in the universe and it collapses in on itself into a black hole. That's the Spiral Nemesis: it's not some thing you can punch in the face, it's the end product of greed. The only way to stop it is to be able to look at the universe full of stuff and say "I don't want more".

>>14478176
So your argument is that since spiral power may have long term consequences on a very large scale, not only should it not be used, they shouldn't even attempt to understand it better?

TIL gurren laggan was pro-creationism propaganda.

>>14478187
>the notion of the collapse of the universe is merely "religious nonsense."

>>14477987
Eats Melua... Gains her breasts?

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>Gurren Lagann general

>>14478200

Not him but Simon's decision fits with the japanese ideal of sacrificing your own happiness for the good of the group.

>>14477941
Worst

>>14478205
>what is tragedy 101

>>14478200
Ok I'm gonna put this in terms the oldies on /srwg/ can understand. In Getter Robo despite the Getter Rays being a massive benefit, the series hammers in the fact that Getter Rays are also an incredibly dangerous factor that could threaten the universe if humanity grew drunk on their own power which we see thanks to the Getter Emperor. Spiral Power is the same way, and humanity doesn't turn their back on spiral power. They limit how much they rely on it. If they had turned away from it then Gurren Lagann wouldn't be seen during the epilogue.

>>14478204
>Alchimie

>>14478201
How much spiral energy is necessary to cause the collapse? Over what timespan do the effects happen? Are there any ways to mitigate its effect on the universe?

>but muh spiral nemesis
Boo hoo, a trillion years into the future the universe dies in fire instead of ice.

>>14478208

That's the thing though, Simon has every ability to just poof the tragedy away, but chooses not to.

Also the creator's words, not mine.

>>14478200
Limiting use of Spiral Energy is no different to us limiting the use of Nuclear Energy irl.

Why are people having a Gurren Lagann bitch fight here?

There's plenty of shit threads on /m/ where you can do that.

>>14478212
Did you ever play the Wonderful 101?

>>14478212
>How much spiral energy is necessary to cause the collapse?

When the density of the universe exceeds its Schwarzchild radius.

>Over what timespan do the effects happen?

Potentially instantly.

>Are there any ways to mitigate its effect on the universe?

Not really, no. Nothing can escape the event horizon.

>>14478205
I would agree with that normally but Simon had nothing to lose by healing Nia but will benefits everybody.

>>14478216
I blame jegan

>>14478216
This is still the calmest discussion /srwg/ has had in weeks. No ones been called a retard yet

>>14478212
It took Simon literally seven years to go from a prepubescent digger with a robot smaller than he was to a robot that is something like 10 million light years tall or whatever that figure was.

Now factor in that the Anti-Spiral, the thing keeping the rest of the universe in check, is gone.
And then factor in how many galaxies there are in the universe.
And how many solar systems there are in the universe.
And how many planets there are in the universe

>>14478203
Yes

>>14478210
> Alchemie

>>14478220

And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with disagreeing. But it is why the diector gave it the ending he did.

>>14478220
It's on a similar vein of what would happen if batman killed someone. What would the excuse next time be? Is Simon going to keep humanity immortal? Will no one ever be allowed to die?

>>14478222
Calling someone a retard over SRW is as basic as a greeting these days.

It's freighting how an insult loses any shock when it gets spammed so much.

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>>14478222

>>14478205
That is a disgusting mindset that japs use to mind control the masses into getting what they want,

Best song or best song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44O9pNRdhWk

>>14478230
The irony with that example being that Batman HAS killed people before. Not so much recently, but he's done it.

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I though to replay J after some time with this nigga here which I never used, but it turned the game into a solo run. Feels like in Gundam 00 s1 when celestial being just curbstomps everything.

Maybe I'll do a Bellzelute run next, with as much range as possible for sniping shenaningans, shit's going to be cash.

>>14478210
Alchemie is actually the correct name though.

>>14478204

Are you implying that Gurren Lagann is an evil clone of a better series?

>>14478230
>It's on a similar vein of what would happen if batman killed someone. What would the excuse next time be?

See but Red Hood made a counterargument. Like in the comic, Red Hood raises a good point on the naivety behind the idea that someone like the Joker can continue to walk the earth even though he'll continue to kill thousands. And the fact that it's a logical fallacy to say killing the Joker would make Batman accept killing any criminal, when Joker has been the one villain who has never shown any capability of possible redemption in any form, unlike the rest of the Rogues Gallery.

>>14478220
>you saved your wife, how come you can't save my wife
>you saved his wife, how come you can't save my family
>you saved his family, how come you can't save my neighborhood
>you saved his neighborhood, how come you can't save my city

And so-on.

>>14478235
Yeah but that was mostly golden age batman before the whole "must not kill" mindset was in place. Golden age superman as basically the same

>>14478217
What does that have to do with anything? GEATHJERK was buttmad that a galactic alliance founded by humanity, in the distant future, kicked their asses for unexplained reasons, so they went back in time to destroy the Earth before Humans could form that alliance.

I don't see what bearing that has on the whole situation with Nia at all.

>>14478210
>>14478226
>>14478237
How the fuck does アルフィミィ translate to Alchemie?

>>14478230
>It's on a similar vein of what would happen if batman killed someone.
The reason Batman has that mentality is so comic book "writers" can freely use his rogue gallery without any punishment.

>>14478246

By replacing Runes with letters?

>>14478239
Didn't Batman kill vampire Joker in that one movie?

>>14478220

Simon doesn't just not heal Nia. He actively cuts himself off from civilization and spends the rest of his life as a hobo, apparantly just so he won't use his power anymore.

Simon in rising to be the hero to stop the AntiSpiral, made himself so powerful he had to remove himself from life basically. No way he could sustain Nia for 80 something years like that.

>>14478223
So what you're saying is that everyone is doomed unless simon becomes the next anti-spiral. Which conveniently is the exactly opposite of what the show told us was the right path.

>>14478240
Don't try to use the slippery slope fallacy on me /v/.

>>14478240
And why would anyone have to know? Nia's case was unique since she was dying because the Anti-Spiral was gone, there were never any earlier cases of Spiral Power fixing mundane illnesses. I'm pretty sure sailing through the fabric of spacetime to get her back caused more damage than anything they would need to do to keep her from vanishing would have.

>>14478251
フィ is "fi", where the fuck does "che" come from in that?

>>14478253
Simon himself only secluded himself because that's how he's always been.

As a kid, his biggest love was just digging holes in the tunnels. Flashforward seven years later and what's the surface equivalent to that?

>>14478253
>the antispirals were right

Ugh, i'm getting E7:AO flashbacks now.

>>14478230

This was a special case arguably because Nia had her genes antispiraled and was linked to them.

He could have easily just removed that link that one time and then been done with it. If Nia got hit by a car the next week, oh well.

>>14478239
That's why Batman isn't a flawless character. He doesn't kill villains because it's for him. He can say he's better than them if he lets them live. Maybe it's in some vain hope that they'll see the error of their ways? Maybe it's just because he's a narcissist? I've started watching the Animated Series and it's really opened up some new perspectives on batman for me

>>14478255

Not him but even if it's a fallacy, that's what would actually happen if someone like that existed in the world. It's like the idea that Jesus coming back and being legit would be TERRIBLE for humanity, because we would just instantly try to burden him with all our shit instead of living with our problems or trying to fix them ourselves.

>>14478268
Nah, that's not really equivalent because all humanity has the capacity to use spiral power. It'd be more like if we suddenly found out that every time you use an Iphone, a cute kitten dies somewhere.

>>14478254
The end of the show explicitly has the Earth going for a Spiral Peace Conference. A likely topic for the Spiral Peace Conference may, in fact, contain to the namesake of the conference.

>>14478261
>フィ is "fi"

The fuck if I know. I always though it was Alfimi but that is apparently wrong.

>>14478261
It's like the h in Ialdabaoth. You don't pronounce it exactly as written.

>Lord Genome had spiral eyes
>Simon has just one at the end of the series

What does it mean?

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>Hagwane

>>14478266
There wasn't any "remove this and be done with it"

Nia was cut off from the one thing that was keeping her alive. It was the removal of something (The Anti-Spiral) that was the death of her, not some parasitic additive.

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Did nothing wrong and also had a bitchin' theme.

>>14478255
It's how it works, though. You could revive your waifu, sure.

But the next options are to either be a hypocrite and deny Plot Magic Healing or to approve of Plot Magic Healing and then, what do you know, Spiral Nemesis.

>>14478283
>Did nothing wrong
You joke but the series keep constantly supporting his ideals.

KONO SHINKEN

>>14478283
Calling it now
He returns in OG 4th as the protagonist

>>14478289
War usually brings technological advances along with it, yes. But that's ignoring a couple of glaringly obvious points
1) War gets a lot of people killed
2) Wars are supposed to, you know, end eventually

ALL WAR ALL THE TIME is "Macross piloted by Scirocco clones" levels of retarded

>>14478281
Why not just tie her life to Simon's, then? Just replacing what was there before with something else, and they get to die together rather than one of them being left behind.

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>>14478296
>an ugly old man
>protagonist

>>14478281

She was only like that because they changed her to be dependent on them.

He could have simple turned her back to a normal human and left it at that.

>>14478275
Ok. Let's take it as a given that any use of spiral power is bringing the universe closer to destruction in a measurable way, since otherwise healing Nia would've been fine under whatever rationing limits they'd have to operate under to prevent the spiral nemesis.

How do they keep some dirt farmer in bumfuck nowehere from creating a galaxy sized robot because he was picked on too much as a kid? What methods would they put into place to prevent any future Simon-level spiral knights from utilizing their powers?

>>14478272
Everybody can use Spiral Power, but to the same capacity?
Simon was the best user of Spiral Power humanity had against Lordgenome and even halfway into the timeskip, Simon's abilities maxed at making a small drill no bigger than his own Core Drill.

>>14478280
>being surprised when that shit has been plastered on Japanese media since Divine Wars

>>14478300
> Macross piloted by Scirocco clones
Do they have the same spirit sets or different ones?

>>14478296
>OG 4th
Why do you skip a number?

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>>14478302
Vindel is a handsome young man.

>>14478311
The same
And they're all constantly stealing each other's waifus and plotting to get each other killed.

>>14478296
You mean 3rdOG?

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