/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #969

>>14361110
9/16/16 for VII. Guess they'll wait until VII's out before start talking about VIII.

And VII is something else, I hope you enjoy it. The new graphics look pretty good, the original was pretty rough and outdated even for its time....

>>14361133
Cheers, I'll give it a look some time, probably. Got a hell of a backlog of games to finish beforehand though.

TOKIHANATE
HAGANE NO YAIBA

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Mio a best

>>14361133
I'm not buying it I already have Persona 5 preordered on Amiami. DQ can die in the West

Cobray and Ingram are both coming back in OGMD.

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>>14361141
Can't argue with that statement

So someone gonna explain the deal behind Not Cybuster

No, not Asakim, the guy in the OP.

Toya learns Strike and Invincible as his first seishin.

NO WAY.

>>14361174
That's Cybuster Protoype, all we need is Cybuster Lily

>>14361175
SHOCKING, I KNOW.

>near the end of OG3 bian and daitetsu are brought back by the new bad guys to fight you
> everyone expect the new guys get discouraged and go down to 90 will
>the SR point is shoot down daitetsu with the hagane and shoot down bian with ryune

Why are they leaking attack power levels for Granteed?

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B R A V O , X S E E D
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Jegan, I'm starting a wikia to cover only the OG series. Any problem using your scans?

>>14361178
Why is Akimi always fucking pissed

Finger Cleave is P, 4000 Power, no will and no EN cost

>>14361191
I don't care. Also, I ordered the MD first guide.

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>>14361174

>>14361120
Huh, I thought Cybuster was the only one with a humanoid spirit.

>>14361178
Uuuh those aren't Fury grunts there.
The closest to that bluish green there were the cannon Ryunpi or however they were called, and they were blue.

>>14361192
He's a young man with a strong sense of justice.

>>14361202
Where have you been for the last 2 years?

>>14361178
>Kaiser

Dropped

Orgone Blaster is 3300 1-6
Orgone Slave is 4600 2-7

>Mattman likes hawaiian pizza
Of course he would like garbage pizza

You must pick one OG girl and guy to fuck. Who are they?

>>14361205
Maybe it's a redesign for one of them?

Either that or it's some GC grunts, we already know they were all getting redone.

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>>14361214
sure thing anon

>>14361178
>G Compachi Stage 1
HAHA TIME FOR NERFS

>>14361196
That's actually lower than what Garmraid had for Thunder Spinedge.
But that had a (minimal) EN cost.

Using Garmraid as a base I figure Tempest Lancer will have 5000 base power and 6600 at 10 upgrades.
Bellzelute will probably be thrown in the +1900 tier unless someone has bias for Calvina leading her to be thrown to the +2200 one.

I hope they fix the Hyperion, it's on a lower upgrade tier than both Vega and Altair for no reason.

>>14361199
Cool, I think I'm pretty covered regarding available lineart up to 2nd OGS.

Time to move from the srwgog.velv.net era

>>14361219
Wait, is this in the "they fuck each other and you're playing eugenics" sense, or "they fuck you" sense?

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>>14361210
Traveling.

>>14361219
Haruno
Axel

I'm pretty sure we're getting DaiRaioh in this game since Touma is getting a different plot like Sanger did when he got his upgrade.

>>14361228
They fuck you

>>14361219
Alice
Cobray

Is X-Omega still going? I tried playing it and found it awful, but I'd like to see the cast expanding more just to see what they'd add. They seem more likely to add really weird shit into that game since they don't have to worry about plot, voice actors or music.

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>infinite reinforcements
fucking a-
>they're Nadesico enemies
And it was on this day that I waged war upon the world

>>14361224
That or it gets busted due to plot reasons after a few stages. Kinda like how early Alpha 3 had you in stuff like Mazinkaiser and Shin Getter, then later on you're suddenly defaulting to Z and Getter G for a while.

>>14361192
Judging by the context of the line he's likely responding to Touya whining about fighting a bunch of evil robots with no training.

>>14361219
Lune
Ryusei

>>14361192
He's racist like Touma

>>14361192
He's the Hyouma stand-in for J's plot

>>14361239
Yep, still going.

Current event (they're running like three events a month now) is 00 S2 based and finally giving up Dunbine units that aren't Shou in the Dunbine or battleships - now we have Marvel in the Dunbine and Shou in Bilbine.

>>14361255
Where are they going to find him spare arms

>>14361275
If they can give Rai a perfectly functioning hand I don't see why they couldn't do arms, elbows are a lot easier than fingers

And isn't Hugo all cyborged up?

>>14361227
So you're making a proper wiki for the OG Saga?
Do tell when you finish it, I'd very much like to see a proper wiki for them.

>>14361277
>And isn't Hugo all cyborged up?
Ask Aqua, she has hands-on experience.

Is Asakim really Masaki?

>>14361281
Do you think he has a vibrate setting?

>>14361290
He's a pilot Shuroga made for itself.

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Anyone know the name of the Escaflowne track used for when the bad guys show up in SRW C3?

>>14361279
My objective is to cover only the OG series main hames and the OG saga spin-offs. I will mostly translate the Koto manuals and the mecha profiles from the games for info. If someone wants to do the mecha history parts(what it did in the games), character, game summaries, etc that would be great since I will just do the mecha pages for now.

Here is the preview for the Alteisen page, only the infobox info for now, I will add the text sometime this week:

http://srwog.wikia.com/wiki/Alteisen

INB4 someone complains about Terra Federation Force(TFF) and Mao Industry translations, these come from the decals of the Exbein Ver. Ka figure. Of course I still haven't decided if I will stick with them or use the usual Earth Federation Force/Army and Mao Industries.

The wiki layout is still preliminary too, if someone can suggest color or background image, I'm open

>>14361239
They're adding voice lines in a future update or something.

>>14361290
Shuroga lost its original pilot so it made itself a new one

>>14361302
For game is it the game of the OGs origin?
Because Alt comes from Compact 2

>>14361302
>balofo
Why the name

>>14361302
HOLY FUCK MY EYES

Change the background to something that isn't patterned. Perhaps an high resultion image or an image split so that the rest of the page rests in between the split.

>>14361174
Zelvoid, it's some kind of ancient MP'd Masoukishin that uses the elemental spirit Zelv. Zelv itself isn't actually a being so to speak, it's just another name for the void/nothingness but supposedly represents the spirit or heart. It was used to successfully fight off and defeat the Giants who later split into the Gods.

Why it looks like Cybuster? The new writer in CotE completely forgot to address it even though the previous two games had been slowly building up to it. They mostly hint at it being what Cybuster was based off but that is it.

Besides forgetting to explain why only one Zelvoid exists if it was MP'd or why something like it shows up in Rasfitot's temple. They handwaved and finished Eren's plot off screen before CotE even starts.

>>14361313
Alt only appeared in OGS for PS2, I'm disconsidering the other SRW games. This will be OG saga only

>>14361315
nickname I've used for years in mechatalk

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>>14361291

>>14361277
Back in Alpha Hyoma even got his new arms from the SRX Project. Rai just goes all "yeah, we already solved that problem, no worries" and it's fine.

>>14361323
>Alt only appeared in OGS for PS2
It's in OGG as part of the battle viewer and shuffle battler, technically speaking.

>>14361318
post some HQ official wallpapers so I can change, I have access to none

>>14361290
He's a sophisticated holographic projection of the Shuroga's consciousness, which is why Apollo says he has no scent and why he's unkillable. The Shuroga based Asakim's appearance and mannerisms off its original pilot, but it's been millions of years so it may have gotten the details wrong.

Shuroga itself was created as a causality manipulation machine like Supreme Deity Sol was, but fell into this dimensional cluster from wherever it originally came from. Its similarity to Sol allowed the Angels to reprogram Shuroga to force it to seek out the Spheres, which is why Asakim's an asshole sometimes and a cool guy other times. For everything else that sucks about Z3's endgame, I actually really like the stuff that happens with Asakim.

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>>14361219
Rai and Ibis.

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Man Wing Zero I really want to use you and your ballin' map but fuck you for only having 8 upgrade bars and 2 part slots

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>>14361338
Very curious mix.

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Compact 3 was pretty easy so far until this stage.

You get charged at by all the Escaflowne baddies in addition to original opponents who show up halfway through the stage.

I've had to reset multiple times due to mistakes leading to massive death on my side.

>>14361361
Isn't that the stage you can recruit the cat sisters?

>>14361361
Huh, I don't see Dunbine and Bilbine both on your side. You're not abusing their combining abilities?

>>14361364
That's the previous stage, which has you facing off against a sea of Acrobunch baddies and Escaflowne baddies.

I was only able to recruit one due to reasons.

>>14361219
Ibis
Cobray

>>14361361
I remember that.
Stealth Mantle 4days

>>14361371
>>I was only able to recruit one due to reasons.
They're mutually exclusive I think

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>>14361369
You're kidding me, right

I didn't even realize I had Bilbine.

>>14361371
I hope you still have a save from back then.
You need to go back and recruit them both.
My ego won't allow people to not save 2d fictional characters they could save.

>>14361375
You get both, how the crap did he manage to save only one

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>>14361386
Doing it.

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>>14361219
Yon
Axel

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>>14361357
I play favourites.

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I never want to see anything Nadesico related again.
Except the Nadesico itself for the sweet MAP shenanigans

>>14361391
Cool.

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>>14361389
I just checked just to make sure, I only got one.

I killed one and got the other to 50%.

To get both you need to get both to 50% and force them to retreat, I guess.

>>14361325
Aqua is slut
SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

>>14361364
...you can get Naria and Eriya in Compact 3?

brb figuring out a Wondersawn emulator

Anyone happen to have an idea for how SRW games calculate EXP and PP?

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>>14361409

>>14361411
PP is set for every enemy
EXP is a set value that goes up or down if there's a level difference

>>14361402
I could swear I've seen that exact map in R.

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>>14361410
Oswan 1.7

Good Enjoyments, young one.

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>>14361414
go shoot your kid already Bright
you are a shitty father for letting him go full retard ecoterrorist

>>14361418
SRW reuses things constantly.

>>14361376
>>14361420
Remember, Dunbine pilot's their combination, so if you want to abuse that for EXP, put your better pilot there.

Just ordered my 10k yen psn card.

Now we play the waiting game.

>Order status:Security Check

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Amuro got a new piece of garbage
that's right
Nu is shit
all units with 8 upgrade bars are shit
except Master Gundam
that's the shit

waiting until August is going to kill me.

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Done.

>>14361435
wat the hell is that SH bar?

>>14361202
no, the main 4 have humanoid spirits

>>14361296

Is it Zaibach's theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAY7godUM_U

>>14361441
Shield

>>14361441
Shield

>>14361441
That's how A decided shields should work, as an extra lifebar, more or less

>>14361444
>>14361446
>>14361448
so life points are first deducted from that stat before the HP itself?

>>14361443
Nah it had a vocal part to it, similar to Dance of Curse but it clearly wasn't that.

I'm grabbing the OST now just cause it's bothering me that I can't recognize it.

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>>14361437
Wanna play cards?

>>14361434
Alright 10k on my account. I wish there was pre-load or some shit like that. Never did that before and that would be convenient now.

>>14361418
The reason people really wanted R Portable is that it reused a fuckload of shit from A.

>>14361437
Just 15 more days, anon! Ganbare!

>>14361418
It's also in J

>>14361464
>Just 15 more days, anon! Ganbare!

I'm not getting the Japanese version, I'm going to be patient about this one.

>>14361468
eng subs? me too
I'll be spoiled to hell by the time I get but fuck it

>>14361468
Oh.

Well then in that case I can't help you, if you're being patient but are going to die anyway then that's a personal issue. I can't stop spontaneous combustion.

>>14361462
By the way, what was the price again?

8800 something right?

>>14361415
>EXP is a set value that goes up or down if there's a level difference
Any idea on the actual calculation?

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Mandatory Gundam MA shot
Only 4 more stages to go including this one.

>>14361472

It's SRW, I really don't care if I'm spoiled. I expect a "good enough" story and that's about it.

Either way I have other games to play for now.

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To my dearest Anon,

Included is a gift as a show of affection, and advice for future generations.

Medjool dates are best served with milk.

From your friend lurking across the sands, Sahib.

>>14361472
I don't mind spoilers for SRW since I couldn't read them myself for years anyways.

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>>14361468
>>14361472
We can do this! Go team~

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>>14361487
>"good enough" story
oh boy
it will be all CROSSGATES I AN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT

>2 weeks left
>Still now showing on the pre-order/upcoming list

Goddamnit just let me pay for it already. It makes me uneasy to have 100 bucks just standing there.

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The map sprite for the Dunbine+Bilbine combo is kinda silly looking in a lovable way.

>>14361488
Thank you for saving the cute 2d girls.
I need to try dates with milk.

So, think there's any chance of an Exbein Servant in OGMD?

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>>14361492

Hey, "good enough" is at least more subjective than "good"

>>14361503
Exexbein

>>14361503
Exexbein already has the sliders

>>14361503
Exexbein is already exactly that.

>>14361505
Does Compa even wear that nurse uniform? It's been there since the first game IIRC.

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Take that stupid shit right the fuck off before I slap it off.

This is some straight up unramdan shittery, and I am in no mood, Todd.

>>14361513
I don't think so

>>14361517
That is a goddamn crime.

>>14361513

Not that I know of

>>14361518
that's because extra costumes are re-colors or swimsuits or assets from other games

Yuuki is in Exexbein because Ing is in a coma and slowly turning into Ingram.

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Did you know that Heavy Arms is the best Wing unit in AP?
Did you also know it's the best in A too?

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So how does upgrading Dunbine+Bilbine's attacks work

Is it the average of their upgrades, or something else?

I won't be surprised if they bumped Tempest Lancer to 130 Will and had Orgonite Buster take its original spot in Granteed's moveset.

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THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE AMBUSHING ME
BUT IT WAS THEM THAT WERE AMBUSHED

RIMITTO KAIJOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejyBcX_gUNQ

I believe that this is the Escaflowne song in C3 that they were looking for earlier.

>>14361511
>>14361509
Exexbein confirmed for getting it's shit wrecked in MD, all hail our new titty monster overlord.

>>14361515
>Todd.

That's not Todd.

>>14361569
Exexbein is confirmed playable and switchable, remind me the last time a switchable mech was lost in a game it was playable in.

>>14361302
>I will mostly translate the Koto manuals and the mecha profiles from the games for info.
Some of these have great info. I'd start with Ialdabaoth and Soulgain, both have lots of trivia that isn't in any games including why Ialdabaoth has hair.

>>14361562
That's from the fucked up part where the dragon slayers get dragon slayed.

>>14361219
A 3some with Ryusei and Mai

>>14361562
That is the one. They adapted the part around 1 minute in.

Well done, Anonymous, you are my new best friend.

>>14361571
Oh what's his name, Butt Buttings.

>>14361468
Enjoy your stake la

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>>14361480
A uses Fire Emblem RNG

>>14361480
99% isn't 100% nerd.

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fighting enemies without damage halving barriers feels so nice

bye ded tri-starts

>>14361589
wah lau shitposter-encik why you so liedeh one sial, singlish also english one mah, a boh?

I'm willing to beat that Touya's spirit set is going to be something boring like

Strike
Fortitude
Accel
Yell
Valor

>>14361602
Strike, Fortitude, Accel, Hotblood, Zeal

Yell is already part of Tenia's spirit set so there.
Twin command is gonna be something like Drive for 40 SP

>>14361602
It'll probably be similar to his default Super set in J

I bet he'll lose Hotblood and just keep Love instead

>tfw replaying J

The Brain Powered opening is wonderful, the sped up J version really helps it as a battle theme

IN MY DREAM AKAI BARA NO HANA

>>14361607
I think it'll be something like Belief or something, that thing that Yanlong and Sanger had.

I see Calvina getting Drive or Fighting Spirit as her twin.

if megas xlr ever did get in to srw what units do you think they would use

>>14361612
One of Calvina's default skills is gotta be Revenge.
Which will be the reason why she's gonna be in a lot of people's top aces list.

Lets see
Calvina
Focus
Sense/Fortitude/Alert
Filler
Filler
Soul
Twin Fighting Spirit/Drive

>>14361453
Yes. It basically acts as an extra HP gauge. Thing is, you can have the unit take a lot of damage, then restore their shield with Resupply to keep Potential active.

Something I liked to do was keep Boss Borot's HP upgraded to an "ideal" level, then have Boss self-destruct on my shielded units, causing them to lose a lot of HP, and activate a high Potential level without the shield being damaged at all.

>>14361616
>Revenge as a personal
When was the last time anyone had that?

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FINAL BURNING CANNON

>>14361614
The ones from the show.

>>14361622
I can think of Sleigh.

>>14361628
I see a pattern here.

>>14361296
epistle, I think

>>14361622
Katina and Lune back in OGG?

>>14361628
Nah, Sleigh had Attacker

>>14361633
well shit, didn't actually notice the other post
On another note, what's the probability that Haken will have combination attacks?

>>14361622
Lune has Revenge by default in at least some of the OG games, I think

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What a qt.

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>>14361614
>Beltorchika's Children is in, so Char is using a Nightingale
>Evil Coop uses the real Sazabi this time

>>14361647
very 80s, I like her a lot

>>14361647
>80s girls being this cute

What is this madness.

>>14361614
>megas gets a upgrade
>you lose the upgrade cause coop hates how megas upgrade looks

>>14361555
oh yeah, that stage. The stage where I lost 90% of my crew to one attack

>>14361677
I played AP like 4 times before so I knew where Gato would spawn.
No way in fuck I'm gonna let myself get hit by an atomic bazooka in a game with wonkysoft formulae

>>14361647
I want to cuddle with her and then hold hands.

>>14361611
I will admit to using the Brains a lot in J just because their version of In My Dream is great

i mean it helps that despite being basically interchangeable that they're really good reals with a good combo attack and hp/en regen small from what I remember

>>14361695
Nelly and Hime Brain together are good, Hime makes a good blessbot

>>14361695
The brains in ACE 3 are also super death mechs

>>14361695
>hp/en regen small

Yep, 10% HP and EN Regen. On top of that, they also have Chakra Shield (reduces all damage by 800 for 5 EN), and Vital Jump (random auto-evasion at 130+, along with teleport movement).

Then they have AAAA terrain ranks, and combos everywhere.

>>14361710
Plus, the pilots all have Antibody, which is basically J's take on Newtype.

>>14361714
Its actually more like Aura Power.

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Okay MXP what is this shit, even my reals are having trouble shooting this fucker down. Guess I'll have to actually start investing in accuracy if the game is going to start throwing S-rank terrains with 120 mobility.

Oh and it has double action too because fuck me.

>>14361714
It's bootleg Aura Power because the Brains are bootleg Aura Battlers

>alpha
>enemy has 0% hit rate
>hits anyway for 8k damage
thanks wonkysoft

>>14361723
Throw it in the river.

>>14361724
Brains are shooty Aura Battlers

>>14361223
> Prisma!Illya in Shuten-douji's outfit
Nice.

>>14361739
I guess you could say that they're AURA SHOOTERS

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Well this is it, the final team.
For the UC units:
Amuro - Zeta
Burning - ZZ
Norris - Gundumb
Aina - G-Fighter
Kou - Gp03
Four - Gelgoog
Also Miyuki in Getter Dragon but she sucks so bad she's only there to cast Rouse and then fuck off.
I wasted like 120K on that mech and I get a pilot that can't even kill a fucking thing.

But then again half my team isn't doing any killing at all.

>>14361751
>Also Miyuki in Getter Dragon but she sucks so bad she's only there to cast Rouse and then fuck off.
>I wasted like 120K on that mech and I get a pilot that can't even kill a fucking thing.

Did you try Musashi or the Oni guy?

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excuse typos

>>14361772
rollin'

>>14361771
Both ded

Pretty sure neither would have Rouse anyways, and that's what I needed.

>>14361772
Another one?

>>14361772
ROLL

>>14361772
Roll

>>14361772
roll

>>14361772
Trips get

>>14361772
Rollan

>>14361772
Cmon Lefina

>>14361772
ROLL

>>14361772
Rolling Start

>>14361772
Roll

>>14361611
Alternatively, it's almost amazing how terrible Layzner's theme is on SRWJ

The original theme itself isn't bad, but here? Fucking ear poison.

>>14361795
>Conquer planets with Jua-Mu

fug

>>14361803
Meh its not terrible once it gets to the main part

>>14361772
STANDBY
YES SIR
ROLLING

>>14361772
> No Shana-Mia or Yon

>>14361772
who the fuck is Aria

>>14361807
VALSIONS AND VALSION MERCHANDISE

>>14361701
Hime confused the shit out of me when I first played J because I assumed she was the MC of the show (and not Yuu) and her spirit set felt very much like a support pilot's set. At least she got both Hot Blood and Love to continue being a good partner to Yuu

>>14361772
Not again

Sigh *unzips*

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>>14361810
Aria Advance if I remember correctly is the opposite sex clone of Kazuma from W

>>14361772
ROLLING START

>>14361772
roll

>>14361772
alright boss

>>14361822
>got kidnapped by deathpenis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9fyRDOHJ-E

worst dubs ever

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The deadliest weapon of them all - the Mega Cannon Cannon!

>>14361826
Could be worse.

Could be the High Mega Cannon Cannon.

>you will never rape Arierre

FeelsBadMan

>>14361803
At least it's not as bad as the V-max theme.

>>14361834
I'd rather Ibis or Shine

I like em flat

>>14361837
Shine is illegal

>>14361841
Show me where in the Riksent legal code does it say that it's illegal to have non-consensual sexual relationships with the princess.

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>>14361841
So is rape

>>14361841
Shine is a sovereign, if she says it's legal it's legal.

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>>14361841
Yes and?

>>14361772
How can this end horribly

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>indoors
Nope, Axel is gonna solo this.
It's the second to last stage, what harm will it do me?

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>>14361868

>>14361133
I'm hyped for VII since I never finished it on the PS1 so I know I'm buying it.

>>14361133
> Thought you meant FFVII at first
I guess that's not coming out for a while still.

>>14361875
I'm okay with this

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>DQVII is in September

Sweet. Just in time after I get everything done with OGMD

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/GameBreaker/SuperRobotWars
how accurate is this

>>14361904
Linking to tvtropes should be a bannable offense

>>14361904
>expand SRW OG
>first thing I read is Neo Granzon
Its 100% accurate

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>>14361904
Never trust TV Tropes.

>>14361904
>The Glitter Falsaber has become a close challenger to the Valzacard as one of the most broken Original Generation mecha to date.
Hahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

WHERE'S THE LEAK GUYS

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>550K
what the fuck

>>14361922
What's that?

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>444
TRULY A GOD OF DEATH now let's just fucking go play a better game

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>686
>brings Lamia's HP and shield from full to 0
Uuuuh I think I broke the damage cap kore ga

>>14361928
BX Original

>>14361928
Final upgrade of BX's original.

It's good, but not Valzacard borked.

>>14361942
That's what you get for removing the limiter

>>14361922
There is no way Falsaber is more broken than Alegrias, Hyperion, Shin RKO and SRX/Banpreios

>>14361925
Two weeks, bro. Hold on to your sanity until then.

>>14361942
That's the power of Wonkysoft.

>>14361947
Glitter Falsaber is pretty absurd gameplay wise, but being an unkillable shitwrecker isn't exactly noteworthy in BX

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FINAL SCENARIO
EXCEEDINGLY LONG TITLE, TO AN EXTREMELY ANTICLIMATIC FINALE (you'll see why)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjiCxtPDYJk

>>14361958
>>14361947
Shinka bullshit aside, how does the Geminion stack up against other OG endgame units?

>>14361952
Do any of them recover half the damage they take, have SP regen as a robot skill and several other shit Glitter Falsabers has?

>>14361967
Z3 gets so over the top with its power level wankery that it's hard to say

>>14361967
Is not that great. Being honest though, I'm not sure because I only used Librasta and Gunleon, Virgola and Geminion were my Seishin sluts

>>14361969
>Do any of them recover half the damage they take
I dunno what's up with the formula on that skill but sometimes it seems to heal for MORE than the damage he takes. Shit's weird.

>>14361965
PV vocal version when?

>people still can't accept Falsaber is broken

kek

>>14361965
[CHAOS INTENSIFIES]

>>14361928
Glitter Falsaber is the final form of BX's OG.

It's a damn solid mech, but at best it's top 10 material in that game - MAYBE top 5 - and nowhere near Valzacard tier. (Though it gets really good on a second run because you can freely stuff the MC with support spirits because he has SP Regen for all but like eight missions.)

>>14361969
No, but some hit far stronger with their mook killing moves or have bullshit MAPs or have better partner bonuses or can stack Zeal/Hot Blood better on a first run or whatever.

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>"Lemon... Lemon!" - words from the man who just killed Lemon.
I think it's kind of sweet how the OGs version of Axel is shown to have cared a big deal about Lemon, compared to OG2's which just uuuh let's not talk about OG2 Axel

>>14361977
Nigga everything in BX is capable of bullshit numbers

>>14361967
Z's power scale is so weird, I don't even want to try to compare it with Z OG units let alone non-Z's.

>>14361977
Oh it's broken alright, the problem is EVERYTHING in BX is broken. It's like W all over again.

>>14361976
Maybe MD. Against Beowulf.

>>14361979
Top 10 maybe but there are way too many good units for it to reach the Top 5

>>14361967
>>14361975
Recovery should be "(Will -100) / 2" 150 Will will recover 25% of max health. 170 Will will recover 35% of max health.

probably not the thread to ask but what's the best way to destroy the missiles in g generation spirts blue destiny's stage 2

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RIMITTO KAIJOU
KODO KIRIN SHIN KIWAMI

thanks wonkysoft formula!

0-4 take days off to play OGMD on JP release
5-9 take days off to play OGMD on EN release

>>14361975
The HP recovery caps at 25% of your max HP.

It also has 10% EN recovery.

>>14361977
Fucking everything is broken in BX

>>14361983
expect the Carrier Beagle

>>14361992
There's no point to take days off during the EN release. We'll know everything by then so you can play at your own pace.

The japanese release will be the one with the hype.

>>14361985
It is REALLY good though. Top three is snapped up by AGE-1/Nadesico Y-Unit/King J-Der, after that it gets a little fuzzy.

I'd probably go something like SKL, Gaogaistar, Glitter, YF-30, 00 Quanta, God Raijin-Oh, Gorg after that.

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And that's it.
Out of the 560K I got off the second to last stage I only used like 100 to finish maxing Soulgain's weapons (which I didn't use)

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>>14362000
Well you're right

Can't wait for the Steel Dragon. Its like a family now with more newcomers joining every game

>>14361991
d-did Axel one-hit KO Vindel?

>>14361995
Carrier Beagle is fine though. It's great support and an awesome partner to Quanta (which is good because Quanta is great). Strict worst units in the game are the Grancieres, the Promaxis V, and probably the Disk.

>>14361967
Gameplay-wise? It's a good ALL attacker but that's it. Brave, Orguss and Burglarydog are better. The other Z OGs (in their original games) are better, especially Librasta.

Plot-wise it's filled with LN-tier power level wankery like quantum causality bullshit.

>>14362003
SKL needs you to deploy Z and Wingle with it though

Other than that and God Raijin-Oh though I agree with that list.

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The official twitter is posting info about Bellzelute now so we'll get something about Calvina's route, probably.

Reposting:
>Granteed's close range weapon Finger Cleave can be used post movement and has 1 range. The damage is 4000 and it uses 0 EN.

>Granteed's ranged weapons are Orgone Blaster with 1~6 range and 3600 damage while Orgone Slave has 1~7 range and 4600 damage.

>Touya's first two spirit commands are Strike (20 sp) and Fortitude (15 sp)

>If you want to use Granteed and Touya immediately, pick the 「地上ルート」route after the start of the game. In that route, Touya and Akimi are the main characters.

Differences between versions were listed in the official website:

>PS3 version is 720p
>PS4 version is 1080p
>Screenshot sharing only; disabled in some areas.
>No streaming available

>>14362003
I'd probably swap out SKL and God Raijin-Oh for Sirbine and Vassal Knight Gundam, personally. Probably put Galiant in place of the YF-30 while we're at it.

>>14362015
>disabled in some areas.

as in parts of the game or for stuff like Beach Dwellers?

>>14362003
>I'd probably go something like SKL, Gaogaistar, Glitter, YF-30, 00 Quanta, God Raijin-Oh, Gorg after that.
I would also include Bilbine and maybe YF-29 and Unicorn.

>>14362020
Parts of the game. I don't know why bandai games don't allow for any recording other than screenshots but oh well.

>>14362015
>>>Screenshot sharing only; disabled in some areas.

I know PS3 can't share screenshot. But PS4 is limited as well?

>>14362020
It's specifically talking about the game. Beach Dwellers is a bluray, not a game.

>>14362019
As much as I love Sirbine and Vassal Knight Gundam I think SKL and Z are better units

>>14361808
I typed in about 200 names and ran through the first 10 randomized names

>>14362023
They are limiting it to screenshot only in certain parts of the game.

Screen sharing is also available. I think that's the option to share what you're playing with your party?

>>14362019
Bilbine is way better than Sirbine because of the Combintion Attacks

Noah is the only bad JAM Project song in the past 5 years

Discuss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph2BHV5r2NQ

>>14362014
SKL doesn't need Z to be amazing. It needs to be Wingcrossed, but at that point not having the combo matters less since you can still mutilate the shit out of any boss with SKL-RR. It's just not AS good.

God is a god tier sniper with the God Raijin Bazooka.

That said looking back at the list I'd probably take off the YF-30 for Vassal Knight, more because Vassal Knight is fucking OP than because YF "my two finishers are spam moves with finisher power" 30 is bad.

>>14362019
Galient just missed the list. Didn't get Sirbine so I can't talk about it.

>>14362021
Bilbine's good, but not THAT good. Same as the YF-29.

>>14362022
I know the Tales game prevent screenshots if you have Idolm@ster DLC equipped

>>14362034
That's not Kessen

>>14362034
>Noah and Kessen are the only bad JAM Project songs in the past 5 years
ftfy

>>14362034
>Only
Nooooooo, there's been a few. As much as I liked Z3, Kessen was pretty bad. And there's some non SRW songs that sucked.

>>14362036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkzu78t4K5c

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So just did a quick run of stage 1 with Lamia in the Angelg to get that NG+ info some anon wanted.
To start with, the game automatically saves over your last loaded/saved data from the second to last stage, meaning it can lock you on NG+ if you don't keep backups.
Second, as for what's different, all enemies have their base money drops increased by 50% (I'm not sure if this would stack with the extra 10~50% you get for every 40 kills you make, but I'd figure yes for a 125% increase, meaning Luck kills grant 4.5 times the amount of cash they would give normally) and most important of all ALL units have 15 upgrade bars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXEsDktf2_U

Place your bets, who's going to be voicing this man?

Akio Otsuka?
Genda?
That guy who voiced Kiritsugu?

>>14362026
I mean, they're all good, but in terms of stuff that was breaking my particular runs of the game, neither SKL or Z really stood out all that much, as much as I like them individually and as a combo.

>>14362030
Well, Combination Attacks are more than broken already. Going by units just on individual merits, though...

>>14362042
Kessen should be just a medley of Crest of Z ~ Rebellion.

>>14362054
Me

>>14362009
Irui's pudgy legs.

>>14361980
>Killing Lemon
The final boss is RIGHT THERE why are you killing waifus

>>14362015
And I guess no Custom BGM, since it's not mentioned.

>>14362051
Fate sure likes to take its time to get into the good part.

>>14362054
Genda.

Snake and Sakomizu would be wasted.

>>14362054
Wakamoto?

>>14362055
>Going by units just on individual merits, though...

I'm not. I'm counting everything a unit has at its disposal to be broken.

Even if you didn't SKL would be OP as shit though. Just with Wingcross you get a unit that can (assuming you give it a partner who doesn't have a big costly finisher) basically just run roughshod on enemy bosses.

>>14362040
And then Gundam Breaker flashed the whole "recording blocked, entering a restricted scene" as soon as you launch the game.

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GURANTEEEEDO

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Oh by the way, turns out Lamia learns Strike in A.
But not in AP.

:^)))))))))))))

Calvina looks too much like Glacies

>>14362054
The guy who voices Gato.

>>14362029
So if they're restricting screenshot sharing for certain parts of the game, does that mean there's certain parts they're not wanting leaked, at least for a bit? Should there be hype over that?

>>14362080
Good, I hope that inspires certain doujin artists.

>>14362081
No that just means they aren't changing up their policy on recording any kind of gameplay, whatever that policy is.

>>14362081
I can see them not wanting to have the final boss (or true final boss) get spoiled

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>>14362078
Goddamnit Banpresto!

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>>14362053
Did some save editing test.
The increase to enemy drops from NG+ stacks with the one you get from high kills.
I had one of the Getter mooks that normally drops 800 drop 1200, and then after increasing Lamia's kills to 200 it dropped 1800.

Oh and Lamia has increadibly weak-ass stats, could it be because I picked Angelg instead of Vysaga?
Compare

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>>14362098
There's a 90 point difference at identical levels here, the hell?
Does the mech you pick affect your growth or something?

How is Lemon Excellen when Lemon doesn't even look like Excellen

>>14362087
As if cameras don't exist.

>>14362100
Does A have that point system from @1/@G in it?

>>14362101
Only the voice matters

;_;

>>14362098
>>14362100
Does A have an Alpha/Gaiden style Stat EXP system maybe?

>>14362101
SCIENCE

>>14362101
Well that's why she's a lemon

>Xiaomu is excellen clone
>its not voiced by mizutani

>>14362101
How is Alfimi a clone of Excellen when she doesn't even look like Excellen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NirZN2xSi-g

15 more years until OG?

V and the Purus, do you think they'll recast them or just stick with old stock clips like usual? Or will ZZ just be post-plot so it doesn't matter?

What's OG's Demonbane?

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>>14362108
>>14362112
No english resource ever said that.
If it does, Axel had 445 kills at the start of the last stage.
So, 445 kills * 5 growth points is 2225, divided by 25, which is how many points you need for a full stat point, that's 89, almost justifies the 91 point difference they'd get being both at LV60.
However you get +1 groth point for every hit you land with a weapon of a certain type, so it's entirely possible Soulgain landed 50 hits that were not OHKOs early in the run, providing the extra 2 points.

So apparently, yes, A has the same growth point system that Alpha and Alpha Gaiden had.
But what's more important now:
How come no one ever told me this? Do any of the A guides even tell you this?