So, the next episode is called 'The King of the Wind'.

Did anyone else feel like they saved a lot of money in episode 11? All the faces looked really off, and I don't think it'll get fixed in the BD.

>>14359560
Needs more shipping.

I thought it was very nice that Mirage and Hayate got nice moments last episode. I hope that continues.

>>14359560
King dies, obvs.

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>>14359560

>>14359560
I can se myself on the right.

>>14359639
You're still failing to control Bogue's rune.

>>14359635
Needs a REMEMBER 16! somewhere.

>>14359635
Me on the right.

>>14359635
This doesn't feel representative of 4chan at all.

>>14359951
Well it came from /a/ really not /m/.

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>>14359560
>So, the next episode is called 'The King of the Wind'.

Don't you mean the Winds of the King?

>>14360103
I can't make an Ace Combat Zero reference with Master Asia in it though.

>>14360103
ZENSHIN

>>14360103
>>14360128
Hang on, I think I can make an Ace Combat Zero reference with Master Asia in it.

>Oh, him? Yeah I know him.
>It's gonna take a while. It happened years ago.
>Did you know, there are three kinds of Mobile Fighters?
>Those who seek their missing brothers.
>Those who live for pride.
>And those who can read the tide of battle. Those are the three. And him?
>He was a Mobile Fighter they called THE UNDEFEATED OF THE EAST. This man was his student.
>His student is the man I seek.

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>>14360103
>Winds of the King?
>Fart jokes
>Fart jokes everywhere

>>14359627
Not much going on aside from Messer's memorial service so yeah. Would've wanted a rifle party on the Aether's deck, really.

>No subject

Come on OP

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I really enjoy giant enemy battlecruisers that look crazy.

>>14360198
I was drunk on 20-year old banana sake, man

>>14360206
The aesthetic is very DYRL-ish. Spiral effects are missing though.

>>14360206

I can't wait for it to transform to robot mode.

>>14360288
It's protoculture.

things turning robot is an earthling thing

>>14360302

The ship has ARMD analogues on the sides that I am pretty sure will become arms post-transformation, and a clear 'head' on top.

Is it weird for a protoculture ship to have that functionality? Yes. But its also weird for this protoculture warship to exist at all.

The whole point of the Zentradi rebellion destroying the protoculture was that the protoculture relied on the Zentradi to be the entire military force. Zentradi ships ARE Protoculture warships. It feels super weird for there to be a non-Zentradi protoculture ship dedicated for battle.

>>14360302
>Inb4 it's a BIRD HUMAN

>>14360288

If they remember SDF it shouldn't, because transformation was a human invention and they even applied it retroactively to the SDF-1 if I recall, adding new bits like the ARM-D carriers to make the transformation more anthropomorphic.

>>14360314
It's not even got a 3d model. It's not transforming

>>14359662
>Lady M sends reinforcements to Ragna
>It's Basara
>yfw LISTEN TO MY SONG

>>14360314
> Zentradi ships ARE Protoculture warships

At least it should be more powerful if it came from the original masters of the zentraedi.

I missed a few episodes, just caught up

>Freyja

I'd touch her rune

>Makina

I'd wrench her socket

>>14360390
Freyja is not for lewds!
MakiMaki already has Reina servicing her parts

>>14360422

Nothing lewd about touching runes anon, it's a perfectly adult thing to do.

As for Makina, I'd better check the airbags.

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This thread somehow seems much shittier than past Delta discussions were to begin with, but I can't put my finger on how.

>>14360452
I blame the lack of major activity in episode 11, which was more of a Messer memorial and a prelude to the Second War of Spess Belkan Independence

>>14360457
LONG LIVE BELKA

>>14360462
It is time to take back the shame of seven years ag--WAIT

So there really won't be a new pilot? Because if it is fuck Hayate

>>14360535
I'm guessing there will still be a new pilot, if Lady M's reinforcement comes on time. Unless it's a returning character, in which case I foresee a riot.

>>14360535
I imagine there will be a new pilot associated with Lady M, but won't become a Delta member.

>>14360540
Sounds like a lone wolf kinda pilot to me.

>>14360535
>So there really won't be a new pilot? Because if it is fuck Hayate
We are getting at least two pilots. Lady M reinforcement and doubt that Arad can be even a shitter commander than he is now.

>>14360540
I have a feeling that lady M is related to Messer.

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>>14359560

>>14360128
KEIRETSU

REMOVE BOOGIE

>>14360839

TEMPA KYORAN!

>>14360390
I hope we get some rune touching doujins

>>14360783
M is his first name, not his last.

>>14360898
Give me Mirage getting macronized and fucked by Hayate's VF while a faceless fat man pilots it instead.

>>14359627
>Did anyone else feel like they saved a lot of money in episode 11? All the faces looked really off, and I don't think it'll get fixed in the BD.

No it won't get fixed too many quality shots. I suppose satelight oiutsourced the damn episode to some korean or chinese shithole.

It is annoying to try and find this without having anything in the subject field

>>14360206
How big could this thing be? Kilometers, Macross sized, quarter sized?

>>14361735
Compare it to those trees, or to the waterfall and the village. It's about the size of a Macross Dome.

Theory time:

Fold receptors are what make you Anima Spiritia. The Brisingr Cluster is where the Protoculture defeated the Protodevilin using those overlapping fields created by the ruins. Mikumo is a left over protoculture anima spiritia.

The hole on Windemere was created by the Bird-Human who came there to find the ship, and created the hole to stop "children of the protoculture" from fighting.

Also am I the only one who finds naming the space arab "Burger" to be ironic?

>>14362353
Clearly Kawamori was having a giggle.

Either that or he lurks /m/

>>14361531
I'm sorry mate I was too drunk on banana sake

>>14362684
>spoiler
>Kawamori could be in this thread right now and we would be none the wiser
>he's taking our most insane ideas

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Everybody knows who's coming to help us, whether we like it or not.

>>14362708
Heh, I bet YOU'RE Kawamori!

>>14362718
You're just shifting the suspicion on someone else, Kawamori.

>>14362724
If I was Kawamori, would I know that the VF-31 still has one more configuration that is very high risk to WAIT

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How do you want your hoina senpai?

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Kawamori and Tenjin

>>14362731
There's something suspicious about this post. It sounds like something I would say if I was Kawamori (which I am not BTW).

>>14363406
Smug Freyja and Lewdface Freyja are on my top 5.

>>14363413
>No danmaku
3/5 Kawamori pls

>>14363422
Only the true Kawamori would know that the final boss of Delta is a Demon Lord

>>14363406
>tfw nothing to gorigori about

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>IT'S TIME
stickers on these things are a nightmare, good thingI wasn't planning on using them anyway

>>14363789
how much were they and can they transform at all?

>>14364218
plus shipping they came to roughly about $25 (converted from local currency) and not they can't transform, which is fine by me, I prefer them in jet form.

keep in mind they're pretty small, about half a palm small.

>>14364087
Hold it right the fuck there. Is that Fukuyama and Nakajima?

>>14363789
<<I figured you'd say that. Shipping's gonna cost you extra.>>

>>14364273
>Is that Fukuyama and Nakajima?
Bingo. Even Iijima is there.

>>14364286
>Iijima
>MOTHERFUCKING MINMAY IS IN THAT PIC
I thought she hated going back to anything Macross-y, and the last Macross-related thing she did was a duet for Angel Voice?

>>14364309
>duet
It was just her on the Macross tribute album, the duet is regular Angel Voice edited together with it. She doesn't even do the WHOA WHOOOOA WHOOOOOOOA.

>>14364286
Ijima's still around?

I thought she became a recluse or something

>>14364572
I'm not sure how old that picture is, Ijima only went off the deep end with the whole Bunny thing in the last couple years.

>>14364652
>>I'm not sure how old that picture is
I'm not the best at identifying people but I'm pretty sure that's JUNNA in the picture so it's recent

>>14360881
LOOK! THE EAST IS BURNING RED!

>>14364572
Well, she did provide her voice for the Tribute Album.

>>14366012
Tribute album?

>>14366019
The one that came out during the Frontier period. It included this song iirc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALJRek80zXw

>>14364239
That sounds convenient. Where can I buy them?

>>14366035
That's really cool

>>14366146
got them off amiami

Are the previews out yet? Should I call SkyEye now?

>>14366035
Fan edit

>>14366403
Speaking of music and shit, did they release Uncertain Cosmic Movement yet?

>>14367032
Is there going to be an album of all Walkure songs

>>14367034
Of course there will be. They just release EPs every other episode.

>>14367032
>did they release Uncertain Cosmic Movement yet?
Nope. Same for any other song except love halation the war, and the three songs on the OP/ED single. Nearly all songs we've heard so far will instead be released on their first album, early next month

>>14364652
>went off the deep end with the whole Bunny thing

>be sad beloved pet dies
>OFF THE DEEP END
Fucking children

>>14362353
>space arab "Burger"
It was Berger, and which just reminded me of scheming merchants

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>>14367243
Still pronounced Burger.

>>14367243
>>14367253
>Insert Jewish Islamist joke here

>>14367233
Gah. So the latest EP only covers Episodes 6, 8, and 10?

>>14367442
>>14367446
The joints still look flimsy on the legs.

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>>14366349
ウィンダミアは発掘したプロトカルチャーの古代戦艦「シグル=バレンス」を蘇らせた。その力は絶大で、新統合軍の宇宙艦隊を瞬く間に沈黙させてしまうほど。惑星ラグナもそのターゲットとなり、ケイオスは各支部から総力を結集させる。

http://macross.jp/delta/story/

>>14367483
>Dat Hayate face
Grimm, is that you?
>Inb4 Ep 12 is CLIMB NUGGETS CLIMB: The Anime

>>14367483
>Windermere has ressurrected the excavated ancient protoculture battleship Sigur Valens. It's power is tremendous, enough to sink a NUNS fleet in the blink of an eye. Planet Ragna also becomes its target and Chaos gathers its strength from its different branches

>>14367424
EP?

>>14367697
>from its different branches
I'm still betting on at least a cameo from Diamond Force.

>>14367703
Extended Play, sort of like a mini-cd/singles release of sorts.

>>14367717
Yes, I know. I was more interested in what you said with:
>latest EP only covers Episodes 6, 8, and 10?

I was only aware of the OP/ED single, there's been an EP songs from those episodes?

>>14367739
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=820572
This apparently, though I may be wrong.

>>14367769
that's the soundtrack. It contains instrumental music, and no real walkure music, beyond TV length opening and ending. They're saving those for the album

>>14367918
Can't wait for next month then.

>>14359560
Yep.

>>14367238
>children
>Ijima

You don't even know who she is or what they're talking about.

>>14367958
Should I be asking you to elaborate or no?

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>>14367964
>King of the Wind

>>14367697
Mirage even more BTFO.

>>14367986
You do know the OP was an Ace Combat Zero joke right

>>14368006
No because I'm not a gamer but I'm sure it's quite amusing to those familiar with the reference.

Grab the OST

Full version of Heinz's song is pretty great. We'll probably get that on Sunday and then he dies

>>14367994
We can't say that until we see the actual combat from 12, bruh.

>>14368019
Wait, I thought the first full Delta album was due next month?

>>14367960
Read my fucking post you retard

>>14368026
They were talking about Mari Ijima and you started whining about children.

Now go be a whiny spoiled child somewhere else.

>>14368024
>http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=820572
This has Heinz's song. Track #8 and Track #17 for a more aggressive version.

Not really sure why the confusion still reigns everywhere. The first sountrack has been released, ie it contains things that are played during the show, that isn't strictly walkure songs. That is, instrumental music, the wind song by Heinz, The yule yule song, Ragnyannynan commercial jingle, bagpipes intensifies etc.

Next month sees the release of the first walkure album. It will only contain songs that the 5 members of walkure sings

>start of Heinz's song they play in the show is Shinpi as fuck
>Aerial Knights theme gung-ho as fuck
>1 min into Heinz's song it starts being depressing and fatalistic sounding
Man, that bastard Keith doesn't care for his poor otouto

>>14368062
Keith is a knight, emotions are secondary
>But how do you explain his duel with Messer
EMOTIONS ARE SECONDARY

>>14368062
The only person who seem to care about Heinz is Roid

>>14368073
>The only person who seem to care about Heinz is Roid
Not surprising, Heinz's boypussy must be more tender than Keith's.

>>14368073
>Put Heinz and Mikumo in the same Not!Newtype naked space
>UNDERSTANDING.webm
>????
>Profit!

>>14368073
Heinz doesn't even care about himself if he can make his family happy

I'm guessing Roid->Heinz->Keith is one of those other triangles they were talking about.

>>14368073
>Heinz sings the full song
>dies in Roid's arms
>Roid learns of spacearab's evil plot
>defects to Chaos

calling it now

>>14368082
>You finally see a different emotion from Mikumo during that scene
>Its lust

>>14368073
>roid looks evil
>in the manga keith can't feel roid's rune
>roid is just a nerd who wants to study protoculture and make life better for his people
>keith can't feel roid's rune because roid is hiding his good-guy misgivings about keith and the king's belligerence

>>14367697

Can't wait

>>14368041

Come on folks. I'm not the richest /m/an...but support the franchise. Is it wrong to ask to buy the printed media?

>>14369146
I buy the model kits.

Audiovisual physical media is obsolete.

>>14368902
>Hey prince-kun wanna /ss/

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>>14369084
Roid is the misunderstood science dude of Delta

Holy fuck, 空中騎士団 is so bagpipe.

>>14369515
The Aerial Knights theme is indeed partly Highlander-ish.

>>14369532
Which one would Mel Gibson play?

>>14369535
Ehh, they'd probably put him in as Master Herman for the shits and giggles.

>>14369535
He would be that king. He seems to have a huge hate boner for NUN.

>>14369568
>Mel Gibson is the Wind King
Which western actors would fit the Knights then

>>14369572
I don't know.

I mean it would be easy to have Mel be the Wind King.

>Hey Mel could you talk about the Jews again?

Like Gibson would be in it and not Cruise as Bogue.

>>14369591
>Cruise is Bogue
I can fucking picture it. He'd turn Bogue into Maverick right quick though.
>I'll just turn into gerwalk mode and the filthy Earthling will fly right by

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>DL OST 1
>It has the Enka/Hoola song from the jellyfish festival
It's so catchy and whimsical it hurts

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Elysion is confirmed to be halfway between a Quarter and a full-size. About as high as the Dubai Tower

>>14370981
>halfway between a Quarter and a full-size
Odd for the NUN to be making halfway-type SDFs. Planetary defense types I reckon?

>>14370989
I assume full sized Macrosses are reserved for flagships only, since they are like the equivalent of battleships.

Though it begs the question, why is the Macross for the fleet that colonised Ragna not a full sized one?

>>14371021
Budget reasons? The New Macross-class is pretty hefty on the purse, after all.
It could also be that the Elysion is part of a limited line of SDFs with detachable and combat-capable 'arms'.

>>14371030
>>14371021
Maybe they swapped the original full-sized Ragna Macross out for the Elysion so that the original full-sized Ragna Macross could continue travelling the galaxy looking for new humanoid Protoculture-seeded races to fuck.

>>14371086
That's plausible.

Then again, the Elysion is Chaos property, so for all we know they just left the Dome there while the Ragna Macross is someplace else planetside.

>>14370981
Not quite halfway at that height. It's smaller than SDF-1 but not by much

>>14371030
Even the New macross class is actually made up of about 6 different craft.

>>14371101
I'm guessing that would be the Dome, the Battle, the Battle's 'gunboat', a training ship, a luxury vessel and a supply sector?

>>14371109
Nope, left arm, right arm, left leg, right leg, body, and gun

>>14371122
Oh, I was assuming you were talking about the colony ship as a whole, because the New Macross often refers to that while the combat-capable segment is referred to as the Battle-class.

>>14371129
New macross, to differentiate it from SDF-1 types, The Elysion and quarters. But yes, the Battle segments only.

>>14371133
Actually the quarters have the same 6 different ship blocks as the battle class, that's what makes them so modular.

>>14371136
I meant I said specifically the words "new macross" when talking macrosses, so as to be specific on what ship type i meant. I doubt the quarters parts are fully capable vessels in their own right.

>>14371140
Actually they are, each block has its own engine and fold drive so they can act independently if necessary.

>>14371147
Could you smash six Quarters together into a Deculture-and-a-Half?

>>14371150
>Deculture-and-a-Half
What is this, the Red Ball Express in space?

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WHAT A TEASE...preordered.

http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/flyingdog/-/Discography/A025373/VTZL-109.html

...and a preview of the DVD that comes with the special edition copy.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29077395

>>14373155
>Volleyball
>Duck Team, Type 89 I-Go, and GUTS go here

>>14374399
missing faces from 10 and 11

>>14373155
Could someone give me an estimate ripping time for these? How soon after it comes out will I be able to pirate?

>>14374480
There's a chance you'll find a download before it's even out. It's what happened with the soundtrack

>>14374492
Perfect. Now I can masturbate to Kaname's voice

>>14374497
How are you getting internet down there in the Ragnan ocean, Jellyfish Messer?
How are you using the internet, for that matter?
And how are you masturbating, despite being a jellyfish?

>>14374500
Var, I don't have to explain shit

>>14374509
>>14374500
Doesn't Fold let them have internet across the galaxy? And free wifi?

>>14374556
>Receive thae latest Walkure songs directly into your brain!
>(May include subliminal "BUY OUR CDS" messages)
YES, WALKURE.

>>14371122
What? The New Macross class are completely modular, not just the gunship?

>>14374576
Yes. We just never see the legships do anything on their own. They're always stuck to the titship.

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>>14374576
>>14374556
>>14374500
>>14374509
FUCKING FOLD INTERNET, HOW DOES IT WORK
On another note, raws soon-ish

HHHNNNGGGG, Elysion-chan

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>>14374883
Oh crud, are the raws out?! Time to get DL'ing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGVbpF6D8g

>>14374894
Naw, not yet. I just caught the live stream

Elysion changed took off and transformed into cruiser. I came buckets

I expect raws shortly tho

>>14374906
AXIA is one of the best.

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>>14374907
>Elysion changed took off and transformed into cruiser. I came buckets
Dammit, must see this.

>>14374906
I can't wait for the first Walküre album to come out within the next couple of weeks.

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>>14374918

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>>14374918
Huh, Quarter-class 'legs'.

>>14374923
<<It was a cold and snowy day....>>

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>>14374933

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>>14374918

>>14374933
>>14374946
Wait what? The Elysion is smaller than that bugger?

>>14374950
The Elysion is about half the size of a Battle-class. Meanwhile, that Windermere ship is fucking huge.

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>>14374950
perspective view

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>>14374957

>>14374907
I'm trying to summarize what I got from memory. Raw not out yet.

Mirage was of course promoted to chuui, which was Messers rank and became delta 02, I think everyone caught that.

Chaos was planning to make a sneak attack on Sigur Valens ship at Al Shahal. They figured that Heinz would not be able to sing again within a short amount of time (Mikumo says its too much of burden on him, and Kaname says that they've never observed him sing twice within 24 hours period)

NUNS arrive and tell Ernest that there has been an order to destroy the Ragnan ruins because Al Shahal was conquered in 15 minutes. Ernest etc are worried that could have dire consequences for the planet, because the ruins extend down to the planets core. Some politics talk about consulting with lady M

Later we get to know that Lady M has managed to postpone the bombing of the ruins until after the sneak attack by Chaos has been attempted

Mirage seemed to be pressured by her new rank and position and was trying to think up a plan or similiar with the pad.

Hayate and Freyja come out to eat lunch and talk a bit. Freyja says something hoping that her song can reach the wind singer and maybe change his heart (she had said something similiar to Makimaki and reirei earlier)

She asks about Hayate's pendant, and he says he got it from his dad. His dad was a militairy and so went to a lot of different planets and that pendant came from some planet.

Hayate tells Freyja that he loves her songs and they feel really great, and that he'll protect her, which causes her blush.

When Mirage is found out she tells Hayate that she doesn't have his talent. She also says that he may have won between them during his final exam but she's gonna make even, essentially a rival thing.

I distinctly remember Hayate also saying something like "I'm there with you, and so is Arad and Chuck, you just have to fly like you always do" <-- this was probably before the previous passage

>>14374961

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>>14374964
>>14374961

>>14374963
Also, Ernest revealed that he was Windermere before the war as a trainer of sorts. He was talking about the King, and I believe said that he was a very straightforward individual, who made him suitable to 1v1 battles more than fleet command.

He said that he was sent away before war on windermere though, because of something on the lines of the king not wanting to borrow non-windermerean hands or something like that.

Ernest for his part was described by the king as a worthy opponent with a reputation for having thousands battles with no losses under his belt.

Anyway, everything of this is straight from memory, so it's bound to be filled to the brim with errors.

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>>14374968
RAW out: https://torrents.ohys.net/download/
>[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 12 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4.torrent

>>14374956
>>14374957
>Half a Battle-class
>Still smaller than Sigur Valens
WE'RE FUCKED, CREW!

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Fact: Her story makes more sense than anyone's in Delta.

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>>14374990

>>14374990
AND

>Mirage gets promoted

Oh man, I can't wait to see what nothingness this leads to, especially when Hayate basically told her 'Just do what you normally do, we got this'.

>>14375011
It'll lead to her and Hayate teaming up to defeat Keith, effectively making them OTP while Freyjacucks explode from all the butthurt.

>>14375011
It will lead to her overextending herself and getting in a whole heap of trouble. That will lead to a low point (or a lower point at least) that she will rise from leading to real growth and bonding.

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>>14375011
It's gonna lead to episode 13

>>14374956
>that Windermere ship is fucking huge.
Well, its certainly not fuckhuge like the Island-1 of the colony fleets or the bigger Vajra ships.

>>14375048
Does anybody have a side-by-side of Elysion and Ragna's Dome? We need a size reference.

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>>14375036

>>14375028

'Real growth' that only happens over halfway through the show by the time it does.

Well, Jap writing at its best.

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>>14375063
>Keith sees Messer's jellyfish

>The Windies used a dimensional fault powered by Heinz to tank the shots from the fleet in the beginning
Fucking hell, the last thing that used that was the fucking Vajra Queen.

>>14375117
Who was it that had a Vajra in a jar in the prequel manga again

>>14375152
Ivan something

>>14375225
>tfw vajra tech has been completely harnessed

>That fucking music as Elysion launches
Amazing.

>Sigur Valens has a fold reactor
Wait, the ship-type Vajra had those, no?

>>14375230
It's the music played early in episode 1 when they first talk about walkure and their ability to deal with VAR

>>14375240
AHAHAHAH FUCK

>>14374990
>yfw she's Lady M

Damn, the Elysion is practically made of guns.

Just the ship itself, without the carriers, has *at least* 13, possibly 14, of the standard UN Spacy beam turrets we've seen on everything since the original series; the carriers have an additional four of these each.

Then there's the *big* turrets, which look like scaled up versions of the ones on the movie version of the Macross Quarter. The Elysion has *twelve* of those.

I also counted twelve, possibly sixteen anti-mecha turrets, half on each leg.

And then there's the stuff in the gun booms - there's four guns at the tip of each one, and four of what looks very much like giant missile launchers.

And we have no confirmation of where they're hiding the Macross cannon this time. Does it fire SDF style, or does it have a *pair* of Battle Frontier style guns (one in each carrier)?

Not liking the official statement of the size of the ship, btw - 828 meters seems way too small, as it'd make the carriers not that much bigger than the ARMD-L on the Quarter, and the ARMD-L was way too tiny for what they claim it carried.

(You do not cram a Nimitz-class size air wing, half of which has to be stowed on the deck of the real carrier, below decks on something that's smaller than a WW2 Essex...)

Need a webm and/or gif of the launch/transformation bits STAT.

>>14375482
Misinformation! Chaos is a practitioner of hybrid warfare!

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Found on the MWF forums:

The transformation gif was too big to upload, have a link instead: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70565045/MacrossDelta/ep12/Elysion%20transformation.gif

>>14375585
>WE HAVE LIFTOFF.gif
Also, the Dome is pretty fucking small. Does that mean that there is no Island-class on Ragna?

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>>14375597
Ragna's dome is most probably the smaller type like Macross 7's.

>>14375612
That's weird. Then again, it is a new line of ships in support, after all.

>>14375631

Well the Ragna fleet is fairly old by their standards and probably launched before Frontier considering how far they travelled and the fact they've been settled at least 8 years, and probably closer to two decades.

>>14374933
>>14374937

HOLY SHIT.

>>14375240

well shit, maybe Sigur Valen is a hollowed out Vajra or something

>>14375482
The quarter's carrier arm is only about 200m long, the size of the valkyrie elevators on the Elysion scale well to an arm size of around 400m so everything fits with what's been depicted the whole show so far.

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>>14375684

This shot makes it look a lot bigger. Someone measured the sizes of the VF-31 on screen compared to the length of the flight deck, and got an upper bound of 900 meters, and a lower bound somewhere in the 600s.

I'd buy the *Aether* being 828 meters long no sweat, based on the relative sizes of the aircraft and the carrier, though...

>>14375747 <-me again

...then again, that picture makes it look like there's three turrets on each shoulder section, which isn't correct based on all the other evidence we have.

NUNS confirmed as bad guys.

>>14375761
It's a CGI model, how can it be inaccurate when they use it for literally everything?

>>14375028
She confirmed this episode she has no real talent.

>>14376072

Because that's a painting someone made, rather than a 3D render - it was probably made using a 3D render as a reference, perhaps it's even just an overpaint, but it's definitely not an actual render in itself. The details are too sketchy.

It's apparently a really common technique used to avoid complaints of "obvious CG". In shows like Gundam Unicorn, the whole show is made like that - they don't use a cel-shading renderer, they do the cel-shading and effects by hand, which is why it still looks like anime and not like the Appleseed movies.

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>NUNS are one dimensional evil guys
>Guy behind Var is human

Keith is right.

>>14376289
As if macross char is nuns.

>>14376289
Who cares about that? The big reveal was that Pirka-chan's dad is a Char

>>14376054

Wasn't it confirmed ages ago that the NUG on Earth were a massive bag of dicks?

Macross M3, Plus, Seven (and its movie), VF-X2, The Ride, Frontier and 30 all contained really big hints that the government on Earth didn't really care one way or the other about the colony fleets once they were out of weapon range... And the only reason I'm not bringing up the first VF-X game is that I don't know too much about its plot...

>>14376378
By the time of frontier and Delta, the government is decentralized, so Earth's government has nothing to do with what's going on over there.

NUNS is the armed forces though, and we don't really know how they're organized

>13.Passionate Diving
>14. Embracing Driftage
>15. Parting resolution

I have a feeling Mirage and Keith will be trapped together somewhere.

>>14376478
For 3 episodes?
The possibility is both hilarious and absolutely terrifying.

>>14376483
Just for one episode. The 14th one. The 15th may be about Roid leaving because he's tired of that shit.

It's a hunch because she's now in Messer's old job and wants to find a way to defeat Keith. Besides she's enamored with the tale of her grandparents falling in love and becoming an interspecies couple (think about the ironic twist). I cannot see her with Hayate after the last episode. She looks up to him too much to be a real romantic relationship.

>>14376493
Now that would be interesting. Better than forcing another triangle.

>>14376493
Also don't forget that both of them have lineage issue with Keith is an ex-prince and Mirage is the granddaughter of one of the greatest pilots in the universe.

>>14376478
>14. Embracing Driftage
GET YOUR CREDIT CARD 'CAUSE I NEED NO MONEY

ALL I WANNA GET IS YOU BABY

>>14376540
OTP in the making.

She's been 12 episodes with Hayate and has barely developed. I'm getting desperate. Keith better do something.

MF fan here, thought it was a really fun show.

Starting with SDF, if they remade it with modern animation it'd be one of my top 3 of all time.

What does everyone think of Delta? Looking for feedback before I marathon it.

>>14376590

gg dropped it so don't hold your breath.

>>14376493

her heart still goes doki doki tho.

>>14376593

gg dropped Macross Delta? That'd be a strange move from a group that has it as their webpage background and appears to enjoy the show.

>>14376593
cry more

>>14376378
Macross M3 deals with various Anti-UN and rebel Zentradi so no. UN Spacy only mistake is poking around Protoculture bio weapon tech.

Plus not really as it was a competition which would be the main fighter. An AI fighter would mean less pilot casualties. That didn't work out thanks to mad scientist Marge installing an illegal bio neural chip to Sharon Apple.

In M7 UN Spacy left the fleet to face the Protodevlin alone. Not that different to what happened to the Macross really. Remember the whole point of the Seeding plan was the survival of the species. These guys killed most of the Protoculture and wipe out Zentradi fleets individually. While giving an order to attack a 97,000 ship strong fleet is idiotic remember Lost Zentradi fleets are a real threat as seen with the attempted Lost Zentradi invasion of Earth in Digital Mission VF-X in 2047 with a fleet and mobile fotress, and with the Lost Zentradi attack on Planet Sephira in 2058 in the dead sister backstory of Leon Sakaki in Macross 30. The Varauta Fleet Flagship Battle Carrier was originally intended as a small Zentradi fleet killer.

VF-X2 Earth supremacists Lactence didn't like the UN decentralized so they had Critical Path Corp. supply weapons to both sides to destabilize frontier planets. UN Spacy officers found out creating Vindirance, an AEUG to Lactence's Titan's conspiracy.

The Ride not really as it was the Zentradi chapter remnants of Lactence. They are outlaws. LAI was leaking YF-29 data to Macross Galaxy.

Leon and Macross Galaxy Executive Board are dickbags who took over their fleets to try to take over the galaxy not really the NUNG as they revolted. It is no different from Anti-UN forces Mirage refered to trying to take over an Island ship when she got her first kill.

It's not that NUN is evil it is just that you don't know shit about Macross.

>>14376390

The government is decentralized - but the Earth still holds the lions share of the power, seeing as it has the most people, the most manufacturing and research capability, and the biggest military fleet. And according to The Ride, they not only keep most of their own advanced weapons research to themselves, they make all the member governments send in copies of their own stuff and can veto further development in directions they don't like.

As for the NUNS, there's two parts to that. There's the "Central Spacy", which is the part of the former UN Spacy that was responsible for protecting the Earth, and the dealing with things like rogue Zentraedi fleets. And then there's the local forces of all the member governments, each of which is entitled to call itself part of the NUNS even if they weren't part of the original UN Spacy.

(some colony fleets, notably Galaxy, were entirely corporate sponsored and employed their own private space forces for protection. When these fleets formed their own governments and joined the NUG following the reorganization, these private space forces were allowed to use the NUNS name, hence why Brera has a NUNS diamond on his wing.)

So basically all the NUNS diamond means normally is that the craft belongs to some government or other. The officer in this week's episode on the other hand is explicitly said to be from the Central Spacy, which means he's from Earth, and most likely represents their view.

(The Havamal task force in Macross 30 was also part of the Central Spacy, and its commander is a such an Earth Firster it's difficult to see how he was allowed to rise into that position unless the rest of the Central Spacy agreed with him...)

>>14376628
>(The Havamal task force in Macross 30 was also part of the Central Spacy, and its commander is a such an Earth Firster it's difficult to see how he was allowed to rise into that position unless the rest of the Central Spacy agreed with him...)

Well if Earth found out what he was planning they'd stop him as their civilization would be wiped out of existence literally. This is why he gave Leon a Ghost welcoming committee and had Rod shoot down.

He didn't want anybody remotely squealing what he is planning.

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>>14376611
>>14376616

>>14376628
>The government is decentralized - but the Earth still holds the lions share of the power, seeing as it has the most people, the most manufacturing and research capability, and the biggest military fleet. And according to The Ride, they not only keep most of their own advanced weapons research to themselves, they make all the member governments send in copies of their own stuff and can veto further development in directions they don't like.

They actually have bad experience with their own technology used against them. The Variable Glaug was developed by rebel Zentradi and given to Lost Zentradi from VF tech. Again with the Feios it was developed by rebel Zentradi from the VF-X-11 prototype for a Lost Zentradi fleet. There are various Anti-UN nut cases that use VFs. Pirates and bandits too. In Macross Dynamite 7 we see a black market selling from VFs to Reaction Weapons.

The NUN gave Windermere VF technology. Anti-UN related persons, Epsilon Foundation most likely, help develop the Sv series Windermere uses.

Subs out! Come and get it! (Kuromukuro needs more waiting.)

>>14376717

if i haven't seen last week's episode will i be able to watch this week's episode?

>>14376617
>It's not that NUN is evil it is just that you don't know shit about Macross.

I didn't say they were evil, I said they didn't care much what happened once the colony fleets were out of range. We see in Plus, VF-X2 and The Ride what kind of power the Central Spacy has available, but the Macross Seven and Macross Frontier fleets both faced civilization-ending threats with no help from the Central Spacy, and their answer to "lunatic old man and his sons wants to mind-control the whole sector using the protoculture ruins" is "blow up the massive ruins that tap into the last friendly planet's core, which could render the planet uninhabitable."

Doesn't really smack of caring. Not evil, just...not giving a shit.

>>14376736

Basically, yes. Nothing of true importance except the unveiling of the enemy flagship happened last week.

>>14376705
Disregard this, next episode is already out.

>>14376781

is the ride translated?

Purge Windmereans. And rape their women.

>>14376868
Not that I know of. It also has a Light Novel of it.

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A relationship between Freyja and Hayate might end in Sadness.

>>14376882
I can't read moon but is Hayate cloning Freyja so he can fuck her until he dies of old age?

>>14376886
I think it's daughters and not cloning. Banging 8 generations of Runes.

>>14376882
More like comedy.

>>14376943

kind of. it's how many generations of his children/their offspring he'd be around for if they kept their life expectancy.

>>14359560
He will bring out his old notStarfighter for one last battle, I can feel it.
Also, is there any more info on that thing? Whether it was a full transforming VF or not?

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>>14376478
>14. Embracing Driftage
SPEEDY SPEED BOY

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I have ten more episodes of Macross 7, not including the bonus material. Honestly, I picked a really bad time to do so.

How many episodes have aired so far of the new show?

Who's doing the dubbing and where do I get it?

>>14376628
Well, and if the YF/VF-27 is any indication, sending in outdated data of the VF you're building to Earth HQ is a thing.

>>14377176
12 episodes. You can watch the first 12 episodes without subs in Big West's Youtube channel next week after episode 13 for three days. After episode 13 Big West would upload a new episode each week.

Speed subs are gg while the slower more accurate one's are doki's.

>>14377187
Aisha Blanchett had used a loophole with YF being a developmental unit doesn't necessarily mean you send it to NUNS HQ.

Well the Fold Fault caused by the Ouroboros aurora didn't let her transmit anyways.

>>14377254
Galaxy transmitted the outdated data on the 27.

The prototype had 2 engines, the production model had 4 since they received the leak that the YF-29 has 4 engines.

>>14377329

The way I heard it, Galaxy built the YF-27-5 (the two-engined "prototype") after it was already decided to build the production model with four engines (possibly even after there were four-engined prototypes flying) as a deliberate smoke screen to hide how advanced their fighter was... and they memory-edited the pilot and installed a remote control in her to make sure she lost, or something. Galaxy were massive dicks like that.

My predictions for episode 13 and the second half of the series:

>Elysion gets destroyed because of Fold/Singing shenanigans by Windemere while piloting the Protoculture battleship
>Ragna falls to Windemere
>Chuck dies
>NUNG recognizes the independence of the Brisingr Star Cluster and gives up on fighting Windemere because of other reasons
>Hayate swears revenge against Windemere

>Season 2 takes place after a 5 year timeskip
>The remnants of Chaos and Walkure lead a guerilla resistance on the planets of Brisingr
>Hayate is the leader of Chaos
>Freyja is the star of Walkure
>The catgirl from episode 7 replaced Mikumo as the fifth idol
>Mirage is shown raising a kid it's either hers and Chuck's or Kaname and Arad's
>Freyja and Hayate are lovers, but it's an unhappy relationship
>Heinz is a bishie king
>Roid and Keith are old fucks, one commands the Windemere fleets, the other is their ace who fights against Hayate regularly
>The season is half-spy intrigue to destroy the Protoculture ruins, half space battle dance extravaganzas
>Mirage dies at the end

>>14377483
Those are interesting but ________________________they're wrong_______________________________________________________________________________and not really that interesting either______

>>14361006
>while a faceless fat man pilots it instead.
Why do you have to ruin it?

>>14377499
I'm just basing it off my experience with recent mecha s2s. Like 00 and A/Z. If there's a timeskip involved, it'll be total fucking shit.

>>14377504
Well, probably not the best idea.

>>14375679
The PC were major Vajra fanboys they just copied it even the ship design is copied after the Vajra ship style

>>14377501
Because faceless fat dick is what Japan craves.

>>14375679
Well, it would be hilarious if at one point the Vajra heard the wind song and came by to investigate, only to see one of their corpses used as a spaceship.

SO let me get this straight. Humanity gets abandoned on a planet in a corner of the galaxy, and is left a Birdman to make sure they don't end up as violent warmongers.

The Windemere are given super powers, the ability to mind control an entire galactic sector, and a fuck huge warship, but no system to keep them in check? Maybe they really are the successors of the Protoculture.

>>14377627
Or maybe the Protoculture died before they could do that.
Or were killed by the Windermereans themselves.

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>>14377627
>the ability to mind control an entire galactic sector
I suspect they were an experiment to emulate the Vajra's network. The mind control via the song is probably based off the Vajra's hivemind.

Though, with how much strain it puts on Heinz, the role of the Wind Singer might require a special person rather than any random guy with fold receptors.
My theory is that Mikumo is specially made by the Protoculture to be the equivalent of the "Queen"(Wind Singer) for this system.

The Protoculture probably thought that the 30 year lifespan and the "Queen" is enough to keep them in check.

Humanity doesn't give a shit about the Protoculture most of the time because half the shit they left behind are dangerous shit.

>>14377713
The Protoculture cared the most about the Protoculture, look where they are now. Or rather, where they aren't.

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Reminder that these two are not gay at all.

>>14377713
We should really kill all xenos and turn Zents into a slave race.

>>14377504
>I'm just basing it off my experience with recent mecha s2s
I know it's technically possible that certain shows will follow certain trends for a season. Don't read into trends so intently next time, and you wouldn't care so much.
>Ostfront Panzerschreck trooper face goes here

>>14378069
Woah, slow yer roll there, Space Marine.

>>14377713
>>14377627
Calling it now. Windemerans are actually the product of a Supervision Army/Protodeviln experiment to control the herd species of the Protoculture and generate a stable supply of Spiritia.

Could Hayate's dad be that one pilot with the blue hair who was under Alto's command during Frontier, who piloted one of the VF-171EXs?

>>14376811
It definitely doesn't feel like Hayate is in love with Freyja, based on his words and how he acted here. We've seen him blush before, after all.

>>14376811
Was this a deathflag or a falling in love flag?

>>14377483
>Chuck dies
He stays alive.
On the other hand, this episode Arad sounds like he is planning to meet the king by doing a suicide attack.

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>>14378148
It's a false flag

>>14378159
>HELLO BOYS, I'M BACK intensifies

>>14376781
From what we understand in-universe, Earth seems to always have to deal with a bunch of minor hotspots closer to home. 7 and Frontier were on the very edge of human space at the time, and Brisingr is a total backwater. What Central wanted to do was basically buy time and stall; remember, Frontier movies show NUNS finally putting together a battlefleet to defeat the Vajra and Galaxy.

It's sort of like the Imperium of Man, I guess. A planet gets invaded, the PDF are there to buy time while the Guard on planets around it might be called in or if there's nothing they just have them wait and die until they can send someone.

>>14378159
But Chuck is disposable. Arad still has plot he needs to be there for. And Chuck has Kakizaki's colors.

>>14378174
Arad has no plot. Chuck obviously isn't going to be killed since Delta platoon is only 3 people and you have found out it in this episode: Hayate, Mirage and Chuck.

>>14378174
Hayate already debunked Arada's plot this episode.

>>14375585
they launched over the city outskirts, how the hell are they not flooding it with radiation and heat

>>14378174
Chuck is a minority in a progressive show. Arad is disposable and his death would make Mirage to develop more as the one in command.

>>14378174
You can't kill Chuck because it would make Mirage look like a piece of shit leader now she's in command. It would destroy her confidence and would never recover. Chuck has plot armor now.

>>14378183
What do you mean debunked? I didn't see him NTR Kaname, did you? Or take over the Chaos forces when Johnson died with the Elysion in episode 12.

>>14378220
dunno about heat but overtechnology reaction engines and powerplants are 100% clean energy, there's no pollution, radiation, or fallout from the use or misuse of those things

>>14378164
Wasn't the battlefleet in the second Frontier movie comprised completely of SMS Quarter-class ships?

>>14378232
Well it looked like it was kicking up a fuckton of steam.

>>14378232
Why didn't NUNS just drop a reaction warhead on Windemere? This whole dimensional rift shit sounds self-inflicted.

Why is Hayate so fucking stupid, he says he'll make up for the absence of a fighter ace by himself

>>14378255
Because he's cocky. He's going to get shot down next episode, Mirage will have to save him, and die.

I love Macross, but I don't like how each series is more or less unconnected beyond common terms and concepts. Each series deals with big game-changing shit, and we see none of the repercussions in the subsequent productions.

Not even a single mention of the Vajra in Delta. At least in Frontier, there were several mentions of the prohibition on artificial intelligence due to the Sharon Apple crisis.

>>14378258

Why would they kill Mirage?

>>14378228
The only plot that Arad had was that knew Hayate's father.

>>14378260
>Each series deals with big game-changing shit, and we see none of the repercussions in the subsequent productions.

Think of how people on Earth all living on the same planet where it takes hours to travel anywhere else on the planet are totally disconnected from each other. Now imagine everyone lives apart in space separated by days of travel time even with folding.

>>14377627
After the civil war and dissolution of the Stellar Republic the Protoculture aren't united. One group setup Rax ruins as a warning about the Protodevlin. Another group seals the 8th Evil Series Mina Forte is left as system admin and in cold sleep. There were still remnant Protoculture at the edges of the galaxy and they were still nearly annihilated. 490,000 years after a Protoculture group finds Earth again leaving the Bird Human to watch. Given the artifact at the end of Frontier with Brera a group of Protoculture was on the Vajra homeworld.

In DYRL the Protoculture had to leave the city Altira due to Zentradi reaching the system 20,000 years ago. They did not come back.

>>14378265
That still doesn't make any sense, they can still communicate with each other. The Vajra conflict was so big that they needed to pull together a huge battlefleet in the end

>>14378270
Yeah well most of that came from local core region fleets and SMS. In the Wings of Goodbye light novel adaptation Battle 7 was part of the fleet.

>>14378270

Well with the Vajra conflict all the Vajra just fucked off to another galaxy/planet so all anyone would be able to do is try to look for them/replicate their technology(which people had already been doing for years apparently).

THat was, by the time of Delta, 8 years ago. So it's already old news. Look at how fast people got over 9/11. It was a huge, terrible event that united a bunch of countries and then a decade later people pretty much don't care about it anymore unless it's brought up.

I get what you're saying but it's not a big deal. They do carry over a lot from series to series, it's just not beaten over your head.

>>14378270
They can communicate, but thats about it.

Anything else that involves travelling anywhere takes days, especially if you're going quite the distance.
Delta is worse in that they are not even in the galaxy, they are technically outside.

>>14378260
Every Macross series is meant to be a standalone story so that each generation of fans can easily hop into it without having to watch the previous shows. There will always be references from previous Macross shows but ultimately they aren't that relevant in the current series's story.

>>14378277
>Delta is worse in that they are not even in the galaxy, they are technically outside.
Actually they still are within the galaxy and are located in the outer rim.

>>14378283
They are on the very edge though.
If they need help, the only viable source of reinforcements is gonna be other regions nearby on the outer rim, which is still gonna be quite the distance.

>>14378283
>>14378292
isn't Earth also outer rim?

>>14378295
>earth on the outer rim

no senpai. We're not dead center exactly, but we're not on the edge either

>>14378295
maybe it is the literal other side of the galaxy though

>>14378295
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way#/media/File:Milky_Way_Arms.svg if by outer rim they mean the outer arm, like the furthest out disconnected part of it, thats really quite remote indeed. earth is on that broken little chunk in yellow.

>>14378295
Somewhere near the middle of the place between the edge and the core.
And there's also the fact that Earth is most probably on another arm of the galaxy, which adds more distance to the cluster Delta is taking place at.

>>14378261
Because she can't beat the Freyja and Hayate needs something to make him realize he loves Freyja, like the death of some girl he cares about.

>>14378277
Remember, in Frontier they had to deal with Fold Faults, which meant weeks of fold travel.

>>14378330

Do you really hate Mirage that much?

>>14378338
I'm a Miragefag, I just want her to have an actual story and not just be there as dead weight, like most non-main girls in harem series. Right now she just feels like Laura from IS.

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>>14378313
Also, the cluster could also be off the galactic plane, which adds more distance.

Like one of the red dots on this.

I also hope Mirage gains a purpose. She's pretty much just "there." She's nothing. Just try this experiment and replace Mirage in literally any scene she's in with Chuck or Guld or Iceman from Top Gun or something. Nothing changes.

>>14378366
>Not just taking a screenshot of the Star Map from episode 2
Why.

>>14378386
Well, if you replaced Mirage with Chuck or Guld during the Jellyfish Festival or that heart-to-heart on Ranka Beach, it becomes hella gay.

>>14378412

Homosexuality is a normal and healthy part of mecha anime.

>>14378418
No, it is degeneracy.

>>14378366
I recognize that Bulge!

>>14378330
We're getting a faint love triangle at best anon. Expect 14 to 15 episodes of Hayate being dense and no resolution.

>>14378499
He's not dense, he's genuinely not interested, like Basara and Alto. Except that instead of dance, we just get some bullshit about wanting to beat the White Knight.

>>14378532

> Alto
> not interested
> dated one of the girls in his show
> possibly had sex with her

Basara is a good example. Alto? Not so much. And "sky end" doesn't make it so, since that's less "I don't care" and more "I don't want to choose" at worst.

>>14378567

My headcanon is that Sheryl didn't just want Alto, she wanted into Ranka's panties as well, and eventually got what she wanted.