Iron Man Suit Thread Mk III Talk about Iron Man, especially

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>>14263093
> Model 52
It's very bland and un-mechanical. Flat, thin and not memorable. It's cardboard suit. But I really, really like the new face plate.

>>14263161
It seems like even Iron Man is not immune to the flat, simple everything bullshit that's sweeping UI now.

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I hate Bendis's writing and dialogue and... just about everything he does, but I can't hate what he did here.

>>14263176
Is Stark fighting Hand footsoldiers here?

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>>14263176

>>14263176
that's really fucking cool on several levels

>dat nanotech
>dat samurai armor
>dat energy katana

my dick is adamantium

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MCU Extremis when?

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"Outta my way Hulk fuckin shits"

If money were no object, which Hulkbuster figure would you own? Based on purely the movie appearance, I can think of the Disney Infinity statue, the Marvel Legends BAF, the 1/12 SH Figuarts, the 1/9 Dragon Arts (which you can put an Iron Man in!), and the 1/6 Hot Toys.

>>14263184
Anime as fuck.

>>14263161

I don't know, I like the reactor shape, along with the gauntlets in general. The tabi toe sock feet add a bit of distinction to it too, though I'm not big on them.

It's the Mark 51 though, not Mark 52. The Mark 52 is a once off suit he used that transformed from a hover car.

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>>14263210
>what greatness could've been

>>14263210

Is that a racing stripe down the front? I like it.

>>14263191
They ruined extremis with Iron Man 3 unfortunately. No hope of modified version.

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>>14263244
Wrong image, sorry.

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>>14263210

>>14263268
>hammerhead shark hypervelocity
jawsome
>dual sawblades
fucking radical

i wish we got some of these more outlandish concepts in the iron legion instead of the repaints

>>14263268
I know that last picture is meant to be Extremis guys, but goddamn does that remind me of Five Nightmares. If anybody here hasn't read that storyline, they should, just for the opening monologue and the concept.

>>14263188
>that's really fucking garbage on several levels
Ftfy

>>14263296
thanks for the correction, but i'm pretty sure i said cool

if you can't appreciate metal exoskeleton samurai iron man then feel free to exit the thread at any time

>>14263176
>>14263184
It's so campy and unnecessary
I love it

>>14263268
>35 armor designs
So much potential for gimmicky toys and originality, but half of them are repaints and almost none got toys.

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>>14263210
>That color scheme
First thing I thought of.

>>14263303
Apologies that I'm not a hopeless weeb like you

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>>14264088
Love it.

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>>14263176
>>14263184
Is there anything Model 51 can't do?

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>>14266410
Haven't seen it pull off this yet.

>>14264044
Sorry you can't enjoy cool shit for being cool

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Symbiote armor when?

>>14267002
Disgusting.

>>14263210
I want to create a war machine

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I know this isn't /co/, but are there any recent Iron Man stories or arcs that are good? Last major arc I read was...Extremis?

>>14263294
Five Nightmares is one of the best Iron Man stories ever, it's way better than any of the supposed "classics" like Demon in a Bottle and Armor Wars.

For being such a great nuanced and long-lasting character Iron Man sure lacks good stories. Probably goes along with the fact that most of his recurring villains are garbage.

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Shit dude, this thing is cute.

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MUH MK V

>>14267811
why is someone trying to force this mee-mee?

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>>14267822
Because I really like dat ass

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>>14267835
Fair enough, but if you get to say MUH MK V, I get to say MUH MK XLVI because that thing has an ass that won't quit.

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>>14266707
Seeing as it can morph a Hulkbuster, I wouldn't doubt it's capable of it.

>>14268043

Any pics?

>>14267868
Sounds good to me senpai

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>>14268113

>>14269151
That's an adorably tiny head.

>>14267835
Mark V and VI were my favorite parts of Iron Man II

>>14267477
Five Nightmares as mentioned. Damn good.

>>14269694
This. It's also one of the few instances of Iron Man having a good villain.

It bothered me in the movies that they specifically added back thrusters to one of the later suits so he didn't have to use his palms to fly...and then got rid of them because wobbling around with his arms at his side is "iconic" or something.

>>14263093

do you think we'll get this version of the suit in the movies?

it looks p. cool

I heard the Mk. 50 was pretty hax, how long did that last in the comics?

>>14269151
Can the suit's nanites self-replicate? Where'd all the extra mass come from? I can buy the samurai armor and morph-cannons but this is a little too much.

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>>14269877
They didn't get rid of them at all, what are you talking about?

Every single suit VII and up has them.

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>>14269893
The symbiote suit?

About as long as Evil Tony did. The problem with the suit is that it's made from building blocks taken from a fucking SYMBIOTE, which is a recipe for disaster in the long run. Stark instead built the Model 51, which is, for all intents and purposes, pretty similar, but based entirely on tech he knows he can control and in some ways, surpasses the symbiote armor.

>>14269905
I just saw Civil War and it looked like he was using his hands to fly. I guess maybe his back got damaged though.

>>14269916
Fuck, I forgot he used an actual goddamn symbiote to make that one. Yeah, that's an issue.

I've had a fan idea in my head for a while for a version of Spider-Man that uses the Venom symbiote as a "henshin" powerup ala Kamen Rider...literally rolls around with the symbiote stuck in a belt, and lets it out for limited periods only when he absolutely needs a boost. We kinda got that from Flash Thompson Venom I guess...

>>14267868

Where can I find this beauty? I MUST HAVE IT!

>>14269959
Hot Toys Mark 46

Three hundred and fifty dollarydoos.

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>>14263093
>reading something written by Bendis ever

>>14270029

Yikes, way out of my price range. Though, I guess it really isn't a surprise. A 1/6th figure would be really big.

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>>14269921
>I just saw Civil War and it looked like he was using his hands to fly. I guess maybe his back got damaged though.
The suit still has back thrusters, you can see him use them at multiple parts in the airport fight.

They just aren't the main thrusters; those are the boots. Those provide the primary hrust for flight. The hands are flight stabilizers for more control, and he back thrusters take over for them when the hands are occupied, and also assist in steering/braking to some degree when beneficial (and aren't nearly as good at thrust vectoring as the arms)

>>14267480
>For being such a great nuanced and long-lasting character Iron Man sure lacks good stories.
He had consistenly great runs instead of just taking a popular writer and releasing a limited "graphic novel" once in a while. Everything from 63 to the start of the 90s is great.

>Probably goes along with the fact that most of his recurring villains are garbage.
>this meme again
>what is the mandarin
>what is the controller
>what is firebrand

Could you be more casual?

>>14263093

Definitely awful.

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Heartbreaker or bust.

>>14270988
>multiple parts in the airport fight

Not him but I thought that suit was different from the suit he used in... Antarctica.

>>14263176
>>14263184
>Samurai Iron Raiden

I don't know how to process this. I do like the headpiece on the helmet though. Looks pretty nice.

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>>14272156
> Antarctica
No, comrade, Moskow.

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>>14272156
Nope, same one. Tony uses the same suit throughout the entire flick.

>>14273211
Thank god for that. I got really tired of the suits being made out of paper because the power armour/robot guy is always the punching bag because they can show damage.

>>14267480

Fuck Five Nightmares. There are way better stories to pick from Iron Man's 50+ year history you tasteless casual. Shane Black in an Interview said he read two Iron Man stories as research for Iron Man 3. JUST TWO.

Iron Man: Extremis and The Five Nightmares.

One story about Iron Man becoming a badass and introducing the Ironic armor look of modern Iron Man (Extremis). The other a forgettable story with Iron Man's suits getting smashed like tin foil by a third rate villain (Five Nightmares) who has accomplices that overheat and explode.

Shane Black merged the two incompatible stories into a jumbled mushy mess. for IM3 Congratulations, that's what you get when you get a Lethal Weapon director who hadn't directed anything in 8 years before directing Iron Man 3.

>>14267477
>>14274104

Since were talking about the best Iron Man stories. My personal favorites in no particular order.

Iron Man: Extremis
Iron Man: Hypervelocity
Iron Man Doom Quest
The Mask in the Iron Man
Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin
Iron Man: Execute Program
Iron Man: The End (interesting AU tale of old man Tony learning when it's time to stop fighting, and passing the torch ala Batman Beyond)
Ultimate Iron Man I & II
Iron Man Deadly Solutions
Kurt Busiek's run on Iron Man
Iron man Ultimate Human

These are just from the past 15 to 20 years. I could go back further if you'd like (90s to 70s). But some people don't like older art or stories and only want to read modern stuff.

>>14274129

>Ultimate Iron Man

I don't like reading AU material. Only canon pls.

>>14274141
make your own canon list nigga

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>>14274104

Shane Black definitely wasn't the best choice to direct Iron Man 3. But I heard Robert Downey pretty much strong armed Marvel into hiring Black. If you watch the interviews before Iron Man 3 came out, black clearly didn't have a solid grasp on Iron Man.

He even told a story about calling JJ Abrams during shooting because he didn't know how to end the third act of the film and wanted advice. But don't blame Marvel. You sound a little harsh on Five Nightmares.

>>14274129

This is actually a very good list. You picked a lot of hidden gems that many fans gloss over.

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>>14274129

>Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin

I remember this. This was a real good read. It had a retro futuristic aesthetic take like Rocketeer and Captain America 1 had. But it had a lot of good fight scenes between Tony and the Mandarin. Magic vs Science.

>>14274148

He isn't telling people its AU nigga. Y read fake Iron Man stories? I want legit.

>>14269902

>Where'd all the extra mass come from?

The mass is already in the suit. Tony just found a way to compress it. Think Hulkbuster smooshed into regular suit. He has extra mass on-call to bulk up when needed.

>>14274209
That's...not how mass works.

>>14274234
Comics.

>>14274129

Thanks for the list. There is a lot I haven't heard of. I will check them out.

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>>14273357
To be fair, the only time they've been "fragile" is when they went up against people with Cap-tier strength and bodies that practically double as lightsabers. Impact tolerance is nice, heat tolerance is also good, both at once? At that level? There's limits.

Even then, I would hardly call 42 fragile. Faulty, maybe, but it put itself back together multiple times without issue no matter how much damage it took. If anything, it was probably more durable than anything he's ever built up to that point; it was just shit at functioning normally because the tech itself was still in the trial stages.

>>14263093
It has potential but there's something off about it

>>14274129
>Iron Man: Hypervelocity
>Iron Man Doom Quest
>Iron Man: The End
>Kurt Busiek's run on Iron Man

>A learned Iron Man reader on /m/
I think I'm going to cry. This is beautiful.

>>14274129

Great list.

About time I find a recommendation list for Iron Man that doesn't suck up to Matt Fraction, and recommend the "Five Nightmares" and "World's most Wanted" over and over again.

I mean sheesh Iron Man has been around since the 60s and most readers can only recommend the last 5 years worth of stuff.

>>14274788

>put itself back together multiple times without issue

Yeah.. totally without issue...except for when the missile jammed, the boot jets failed, Jarvis malfunctioned, and when the boot jets were flickering and repulsors were failing and it crashed with Tony sighing saying "...Whatever."

>>14277528
And put itself back together immediately after that.

The suit itself was durable as fuck. It's the technology behind it that was imperfect and prone to malfunction (damage or no.)

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Some alternate Mark XLVI designs from the Artbook.

If anyone has it and can give better scans, it's be appreciated.

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>>14279098

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>>14279104

Oh man, they were really trying to make faceplate angrier. I'd go with >>14279108. It has cool blinkies, it's bulky and it's sleek as hell. Looks really futuristic, like it's the very finest thing he could build at the moment. A real bleeding edge. Beautiful. Needs way more gold though.
Also, the second one here >>14279104 is pretty cool. Full on sports car mode. Would look a bit out of place in CW, but a very interesting design nonetheless.
I really want some good scans too.

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Wouldn't it be more effective to shift jaw down, into chest?

>>14277528
42... has been through a lot.

Don't bully.

>>14279208
I'm sure they tested it but maybe found it too distracting.

>>14278264

You said ...

>put itself back together multiple times without issue

Every time it puts itself together there is always an issue! Even in the opening movie sequence it falls apart. And yes the ability to hold itself together is and always has been part of durability. Stop trying to separate the two.

>>14279597
It's a prototype, anon. That's like throwing the entire design of Mark 1 in the bin because of the frosting issue.

>>14279627

See

>>14274788

>more durable than anything he's ever built up to that point

Would you call the Mark 42 "more durable than anything he's ever built up to that point"

Yes/No?

>>14279184
I agree with you, but that helmet doesn't fit with the suit at all. Looks like it's from an action figure line like Play Arts Kai or something.

Personally, I'm into the first one in >>14279098 although it needs way more gold.

>>14274104
Now I understand why IM3 was as shitty as it was.

>>14274141
>canon
>super hero comics
That changes a fucking lot anon, dont even worry about that.

>>14279758
You're confusing durability with the ability to function in a combat role. Mark 42 is a buggy piece of shit, yes, but in spite of this, it never outright stopped working in spite of getting the absolute piss beat out of it, and it's individual parts, while dented, scratched, and otherwise fucked up, STILL managed to transform into individual pieces and assemble around a human being multiple times, and this was with bare minimal maintenance.

Mark 42 is a hardy suit in spite of the monumental increase in complexity. It's problems in functioning as intended can be traced back to being in the beta-testing phase when in the first place. Evidence of it's durability can be seen in Mark 43, which is functionally the same suit

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Think Tony will have a new suit for Spiderman: Homecoming? I hope so.

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>>14280278
How can they sell a new toy if they don't make a new suit?

They're paying for RDJ to appear in that movie, I guarantee they're gonna milk every penny out of it.

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Which Iron Man suit is this one?

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>>14274234
>That's...not how mass works.

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>>14263093
Bleeding Edge was a better "do anything" suit to me
But specialized armor is always cooler than armor that gains powers when the plot demands

>>14280234

Not the guy your debating but it sounds like to me your the one splitting hairs. If the armor can't hold itself together then its not durable. By design or otherwise.

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>>14280234

"OH MAN dat thigh plate is so damn durable..." said no Iron Man fan ever.

It's supposed to be ARMOR. The sum is greater than the individual parts. It's primary purpose is to protect the person wearing it! No one hands out 2nd place medals for the friggin' thigh plate, or shoulder plate being strong individually if the user is dead. You wanna brag about the wrist plate being "so damn tough" while Tony is a bloody pile of mush? Then go for it bozo.

>>14280940

By Tony Stark's own admission he said that Bleeding Edge was limiting. I'll have to look up the issue, but of the top of my head, when questioned about it, he said that a suit dedicated to a specific role has more kick/power to it.

>>14280311
>Hello, my name is Quattro Bajeena. Have you heard of a man named Char Aznable?

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Da bess.

>>14264009
Fuck off Korra isn't /m/

>>14282711
>has mecha
>is not /m/
wew lad

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>>14282695
Yes.

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Best suit passing through.

>>14285327

I can't stand it personally. I hate how simple the color division is on it and the fact the gold part contours to the muscles of his body.

Just got back from seeing Civil War. Either Cap is taking some insane super soldier steroids, or the armor is really weak now. Gotta say I'm disappointed how fragile the armors have become for the sake of plot. Outside of that. I think it was a great movie.

>>14285344

> it takes an extended barrage by someone able to hold down s helicopter just to set off warnings
> Bucky who is just as strong needs to flex at his utmost for several seconds just to put his fingertips in the mask
> armors protects Rhodey from splatting even when it's power is gone and only leaves him paralysed from the waist down despite falling hundreds of feet
> it takes h a hit from a supersoldier using a weapon made of the world's hardest material to damage the boots or mask
> even then the boots only stop working, not crumple
> it no sells plenty of hits and environmental damage

> it's so weak and fragile

I'll never get this.

>>14285359

Not the guy you replied to, but I'll add in my thoughts...

> it takes an extended barrage by someone able to hold down s helicopter just to set off warnings

Outside of his own recent movie, Captain America has NEVER been portrayed as this physically strong. Not even in the comics. I mean out-powering Spiderman and holding a helicopter with one hand?? That raised my eyebrows. And I'm a Captain America fan, and read the comics. Cap's charm is the fact that he's just human, but never gives up despite the odds. I don't want to see him in a bare knuckle boxing match with Iron Man. That makes no sense, and takes away from his character.

> several seconds just to put his fingertips in the mask

I have no idea what you're talking about here.

> armors protects Rhodey from splatting even when it's power is gone and only leaves him paralysed from the waist down despite falling hundreds of feet

Iron Man fell from similar height in Iron Man 1, after taking a hit from tank round. He got up no problem.

> it takes h a hit from a supersoldier using a weapon made of the world's hardest material to damage the boots or mask

The armor has taken multiple hits from a Thor's hammer mjolnir. The Iron Man vs Thor fight was way more intense. Slamming into mountains, crashing through forests, tanking god hammer hits. I don't think Iron Man would have beaten Thor had the fight continued, but it certainly gave Thor pause.

So going from fighting head-on against god of thunder Thor to losing to Steve because he was trying *really* hard is a huge drop. It's not consistent with the rest of the Universe.

>>14285359

lmao. the more you try to hype the armor the more absurd it sounds. If the armor is as good as you say then it would have never lost Cap and Emo soldier cuz Cap ain't on Iron Man's level to begin with. Iron Man rips through tanks and fights Thors and Hulks. So Taking a punch from Cap ain't a "feat" noob. Stop trying to make it sound impressive. Go re-watch the other marvel movies then come back and realize you are a Cap fanboy. Try harder scrub.

>>14285412

> recounting things that objectively happen is now hyping the armor

I don't even know or care if he was that strobing previous movies, but he was certainly that strong in this one and saying he wasn't in others won't make it otherwise.

>>14285402
>Outside of his own recent movie, Captain America has NEVER been portrayed as this physically strong.

He was clearly portrayed with some level of super strength in Winter Soldier - sending people almost flying to walls when he hit them and most people seemed to prefer that version to the one in the Avengers movies. Civil War also was by the same directors as Winter Soldier, and the next Avengers movies also will be by them.

So, yes, at this point Captain America pretty much has super strength in the movies.

>>14285436

It's not surprising really. They're obviously basing him partially on Ultimate Cap, who is superhuman. I can't recall how strong, outside his intro jumping out of a plane in WWII with no chute, but he definitely is somewhat so. I guess it makes more sense too given that he'll be taking on Gods and stuff the original design never planned for.

>>14285402
mcu cap is superhuman, end of discussion. you aren't able to lean on comic book canon for what they can and can't do with a character because guess what? steve rogers is and always has been a fucking nazi according to captain america: steve rogers #01 (2016)

>another motherfucker cites the tank scene
tony's suit was still functioning when he got tagged. rhodey was flying dead stick. the falls aren't comparable because you can maneuver yourself to land and mitigate the damage if you still have control. rhodey whizzed back to earth in a giant metal coffin, it's a miracle of engineering that he didn't turn into mushy red goop.

>comparing whedon's saturday morning fuck show to the russos movies
you're talking about the same scene where thor's lightning powered up tony's batteries to 400% THAT'S NOT HOW BATTERIES WORK ASSHOLES. and even if you buy into whedon's colorful nonsensical bullshit, the fights aren't comparable. tony and thor fought at their full capabilities. tony was horribly crippled right out of the gate when he fought steve. there was no way that tony had a CHANCE to win with a damaged suit and those close quarters.

i don't know why anyone responds to you ass clowns. the arguments are always the same and they always get rebutted.

>>14280850
power rangers

>>14285470
>it's a miracle of engineering

This is true. The shit Iron Man goes through is fucking crippling. Remember that scene in Avengers when he got fucked up by rotor blades? That thing isn't just a metal suit, it's ridiculously impact resistant without even using vibranium.

>>14285505
>iron man gets shredded by a helicarrier
>makes repulsor engines for nick fury
top lel

>>14285470

>cherry-picking what he does and doesn't like.

At least the other posters are coming up with arguments that still fit within the marvel cinematic universe. The moment you go off the rails yelling about which movies are, and aren't canon is the moment you're whole argument becomes invalid. You are not a special snowflake. You don't get to decide what is, or isn't valid because you don't like it. The movies happened. Deal with it.

>>14285521
>you're
checkmate athetits

TAAAANNNNNNNKKKK MISSILE!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCTPq2QEGc

>>14285528
A glancing blow.

>>14285539
>>14274129

>>14285528

Totally didn't remember this. Love this scene. Always reminds me of Iron Man being a badass. This was THE moment that I was like WHOA. Awesome.

>>14285558
> Totally didn't remember this.
How could you forget?! It's
>THE moment that I was like WHOA.

I remember seeing it on tv in a movie trailer and completely loosing all my shit, because it was THAT awesome.

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>>14263093

>>14285528

I always love those moments where Tony is knocked down and when he gets up there's a crest of some kind so that only the slitted eyes of the mask are visible, since it makes the mask look even angrier. There's another good moment like that in the Cap fight in Civil War when he and Steve fall on opposite sides of a rise in the floor just before they really start in on each other.

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>>14285568

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>>14285572

Discussing shit for normies here? What the fuck happened to that board? I bet you like Gundam too.

>>14285568
>>14285574
>>14285574

Did Tony see Terminator 2 and go "Yeah I can work with that."?

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>>14285578
Probably.

>>14285568
>>14285572
>>14285574
>>14285582
>>14285591

I'm guessing from the names and general outlay that you posted these out of order as well as from different issues or something?

>>14285574
ie: nothing personnel, kid

>>14285610
Exactly my thoughts.

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>>14285606
Its from the 2013 new Iron Man series.

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>>14285606
Different volumes, most of what I posted is from Iron-Man volume #5 series from different issues, start of the story arc is Tony looking for people who had rogue samples of the Extremeis Virus, later ends up in space fighting robotic marauding space pirates in a different part of the galaxy to getting his own giant Celestial killing mecha.

>>14286064
>5 seconds earlier
Tony: Dragons aren't real.

>>14286070

Comics Tony definitely wouldn't day it, since he's met and fought weirder things. Even movie Tony has fought aliens who had massive serpent like beasts so he's unlikely to say it.

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On the subject of the crash landings...

I just kind of took the one in Iron Man as Tony getting lucky and landing at the right angle that didn't snap his spine, and that Rhodey landing in a way that the suit couldn't properly absorb.

It's like the difference of falling from a small height and landing flat on your back or landing at an angle that breaks your neck. The suits can handle a crash landing, but the suits are limited in just how much forces enacted on the wearer it can mitigate. Rhodey's War Machine armor remained entirely intact from the fall, but way he impacted fucked up his spine. If Tony keeps getting hit and crashing, there's a similar injury might happen to him too, if he's unlucky enough to land at the wrong angle.

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>>14285402
>after taking a hit from tank round.
Anti air round

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>>14286290
I remember watching a video that explained that suits have some kind of shock absorption system(something like, "iron man can't be knocked out"). In IM1, when 2 raptors were chasing him, he was flying on supersonic, but opened flaps and decreased speed significantly in a very short amount of time. That would be like, 11Gs, or something. This would KILL a man. But he's fine. A tank shot him out of the sky, making him fall to the ground hard it made a crater. But he's fine.
So, as long as suit is powered, nothing can harm the user. Some sort of active field absorbs all shock and negates any overload.
But when not powered, it's just that - pieces of hard metal tightly slapped together around your frail body. Suit turns into heavy iron coffin. Hit to the head in that thing and you will certainly have a concussion or even a serious injury. If you fall from a height in that thing - it's a 100% death. I really though Rhodes is done for.
Feels like my english is terrible right now, sorry.

>>14286318
REPLUSORS DONT MELT STEEL BEAMS

>>14286377
Those red laser thingies do!
Getyourfactstraight!

>>14286340
So he basically has inertial dampers from Star Trek.

>>14286318

You are a moron. You don't know tanks at all.

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>>14287015
Not really. That thing in blue circle is certainly not the main canon (a grenade launcher, for smoke screen, I think), but AA guns on a regular tank is a possibility.

>>14287015
The fact that you think that what hit him looked like an explosion from a tank round, much less that a tank can hit something in the air with the level of accuracy necessary to hit something as small as Iron Man, says a lot more about what you know about tanks.

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>>14287015
Not him, but that image seems to match up pretty well

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What the hell is going on in this thread? I came here to see the awesomeness of Iron Man and I find people arguing about "hurr durr dats not tank shell dats antiaircraftanticloudihatefun shell". I really couldnt care less people.

And Captain America fans stalking this thread, I like cap, but go back to /co/. I don't care if you think Cap is superhuman or not. Were here to talk about Iron Man who actually is mecha. Both comics and movie. I have no interest in reading your debates. I came here to see Iron Man talk and armor.

>>14287153
That looks like a fucking chieftain with AA guns on it

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>>14287570
>>14287153

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>>14263093
Everything since Bleeding Edge has been a downgrade.

>>14287510
>Tramp stamp
How does Tony avoid STDs?

>>14287570

That's because it IS a Chieftain. According to the SFX studio interview, they used a British chieftain in that Iron Man vs Tank scene. To me it would have made more sense to use a Russian T-72 or an Soviet era tank, but whatever.

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>>14287596


Nah. Bleeding Edge is just a rip-off the 90s/early 2000 SKIN armor. For a lot of people Bleeding Edge is just babby's first armor so a lot of people are sentimental about it.

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>>14287596

Ewwwwww....Bleeding Edge is freaking gross. I hate that Guyver rip-off armor. I'm glad were back to solid armor again. Enough of this organic Iron Colossus nonsense.

>>14287605
I was thinking about this scene the other day, and I didn't remember seeing a T-54/55/62/72 and I thought it was really fucking weird

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>>14287605
They WERE running around with Stark weapons. Maybe they just decided to appropriate the Chieftain design, add a bit of artistic liberties like an AA turret, and just pretended it's a Stark-designed tank?

>>14287597
Science,

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>>14287596

>>14288578
>>14287597
>wakanda has the cure for cancer
>tony stark has the cure for every std
lel

>>14285643
So was it destroyed or did it warp into another universe?

>>14269916
>holding person in front of him while fighting
Cmon now

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help /m/, I think I'm in love with Model 51

>>14285505
how did tony not turn to goop when he was whizzing around at a gazillion rpm?

Is there a line up of all the suits Tony uses in the movies of MCU?

>>14288985
Dunno, I haven't read past issue #15 yet.

>>14291841
An incredibly solid inner framework.

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Why does Tony keep making the armor more and more form fitting with each movie? At some point its gonna get too too thin and fragile. I think the Mark 7 was the best in armor vs weight ratio.

>>14292249
tony likes the feeling of wearing nothing at all!

nothing at all!

nothing at all!

>>14285568
>>14285574
>>14285582
>>14285591
>>14285635
>>14285636
I almost forgot how bad Gillen's run was

>>14293279
(You)

I like how how the one in the first movie was like actual armor with density and and mass. It took a while for all the servos to assemble it around him. Now it's more like the iron jumpsuit.

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I miss Mk42

>>14295135
We all do. And those who say they don't are just tsundere.

>>14295335
Too much gold for me but it's still a nice design.

>>14292062
Please respond

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>>14295338
>too much gold
you can never have too much gold

Mark VI was the sexiest

>>14295476
i liked the triangle

but then whedon took it away because it "wasn't iconic enough"

>>14263215
I think the suit actually qualified as powered armor.

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>>14292249
>>14295080
>2016
>Not being down with the sleekness
Stop being nerds and embrace THE FUTURE.

>>14291784
It does look quite appealing but it will forever be tainted because it is written by Bendis.

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>>14294593
>Greg Land art
>Tech regression to MCU-tier suits
>Suits don't even look good.
>New armor is supposedly modular, but all of it's specialized equipment has been done before by non-specialized suits before and better, including a number of his classic suits, the Extremis Armor, and even Bleeding Edge, which was supposedly couldn't handle specialized roles, according to Gillen!
>Space arc in general is ALMOST as retarded as Bendis's Guardians run
>Stark being adopted

Even Adi Granov doesn't like the new black armor, so much so that he's actually released re-colored versions of his art for that suit a few times.

Not even Bendis can fuck up this bad. Right?

>>14292249

Maybe Tony will take this as a lesson. The Mk 46 was too fragile, and underpowered. He shaved too much armor off to make the suit-up go too quickly. I still don't get how Captain America could grab the leg of the mk 46 as it's flying and not be lifted along with the suit. Especially since Cap's was not holding on to anything else.

>>14296165

IRON MAN SAAAAAVVESSSSS 13 PEOPLE!!!! AIRPLANE!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwdzEz8u7K8

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>>14296165

Mark 42 owns that p.o.s. Mark 46 we saw in civil war. All day every day. Bleeding Edge? Ha! What a joke. Mark 42 for life.

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>>14296225
> Mark 42 for life.
My melanin-rich relative.

>>14295902
>Tech regression
lol
>doesn't know what modular means
>muh Bleeding Edge
Not point in taking you seriously here even before the bullshit comparison to Bendis.

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>>14296262
It's impossible to hate mk42.

>>14296165

The suit was either deliberately underpowered or Tony was simply not using all of its power, since none of his repulsor blasts did any damage to anyone or anything. He had to use secondary weapons like lasers to damage anything. It even came equipped with restraints for superhumans. The War Machine suit in the film had a baton of some kind too.

>>14296683
It was already showing signs of damage and is one of Tony's lighter suits. Also people are forgetting both Captain America and the Winter Soldiers in MCU are pretty blatantly superhuman so the strength they have is nothing to scoff at.

Still disappointed with how the fight ended though. If Tony could analyze and predict Cap's combat style, he should've had zero issue even when surprised when attacked from behind and thrown on his back.

>>14296225
>Mark 46
>POS
No.

>>14296683
>The suit was either deliberately underpowered
More like he was deliberately holding back. Notice how the repulsors charging sound effects were less heavy when fighting most opponents; the only person he actually wanted to kill was Bucky.

war machine mk1 from the movies is amazing, the one that hammer upgrades

better than war machine mk3 and the iron patriot armor from the movies

also the hammer drones are pretty cool

>>14296644
>His smile and optimism: gone.

>>14298090
Iron Patriot is just a repaint of the War Machine Mark II.

>>14296683

Completely agreed.

I'd like to add that I'm not even sure Tony himself knew what to do with Bucky. One second he was threatening to kill him with a rocket to the face (but not actually shooting him right away), the next he was simply just brutalizing him with punches, kicks, and choking him.

I mean it's pretty clear the Iron Man suits have the power to blow apart heavy armored machinery with simple repulsor blasts, that's not a question. To me, I think Tony was just lashing out throwing his weight around.

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>>14297298

Mark 42 can carry 13 people. Mark 46 can't even lift one standing still captain america. What a joke! Mark 42 for life. don't even try boy.

>>14298889
42 "electrized" their arms so that they couldn't move. he and jarvis could plan out exactly how to catch each person and make adjustments to the weight as necessary.

46 already had damaged flight boots and gauntlets, and cap was trying KINDA HARD to make sure tony couldn't fly. it's not an apples to apples comparison.

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>>14298906

Nah Bro. You ain't even watch the movie right. Go back and watch again son. Cap one-arm grabs Mark 46 mid air before any damage. It just hovers not able to lift Cap. Shitty Mark 46 held in place by one arm cap! Mark 42 carrys 13 people away from an exploding plane!

Mark 42 for life. don't even try boy.

>>14298986
it's clear you have a fucking boner for the 42, to the point where you'll ignore "facts" and "reason", we get it.

just post images and stop talking, please BRO

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>>14299015

>says cap one-arm grabs damaged Mark 46
>gets called out and schooled that Mark 46 was fine
>throws baby fit

Shieeet Boy. I embrace Mark 42 life son. I dun need to ignore facts cuz facts speak for themselves! Maybe you need glasses cuz You got corrected hard. My presciption for you is get a clock cuz you remember Civil War out of order.

Now you ain't got nothing to argue cept' my love for mark 42. So sad too bad.

Mark 42 for life. don't even try boy.

>>14299041
Would you kindly post with a trip so I can filter you.

My boy.

>>14298906

>46 already had damaged flight boots and gauntlets, and cap was trying KINDA HARD to make sure tony couldn't fly. it's not an apples to apples comparison.

Actually Steve grabbed Tony with arm one before he damaged the left boot jet, so anon has a point. Mark 46 got held in place with one arm. Even with his irrational love of Mark 42, anon isn't wrong on this point. Perhaps you are thinking of when Captain grabbed Tony with the grappling rope around his neck?

>>14299055
MCU Steve Rogers weighs a good few thousand pounds and more when plot necessitates it.

>>14299085

He can also hold down a helicopter. And while the Iron Man suit is obviously lighter and can undoubtedly put out greater thrust, it wasn't doing so at the time.

>>14299289
>He can also hold down a helicopter.
When he has a bar to hold on to.

That said, I think it's just a case of the fight choreography not taking into account the physics of the situation.

They should have shown Rogers anchoring himself to the ground by putting his foot against some of the debris that fell. I'll just assume that's what his legs are doing off-camera.

>>14299848
>They should have shown Rogers anchoring himself to the ground by putting his foot against some of the debris that fell. I'll just assume that's what his legs are doing off-camera.

Expect a quick scene of Cap holding a large chunk of debris between his ankles on the extended BD.

Man Iron Man 3 had so many good ideas I wish they continued on in the future marvel installments.

Watching Tony just switch between armor and armor as a fighting style was just beyond cool. I wish they'd let the specialized armor have more time to shine.

I'm honestly tired of the Red and Gold aesthetic that prevails in every film.

>>14299848

He needs a bar because it's heavier and is in the midst of taking off so using full throttle. Tony isn't. Not only is he lighter, he's flying indoors at a slower pace than his optimum (because he's in doors). He doesn't need a bar to tackle that.

>>14300276
I'm sure that Tony was flying at full throttle because he was balls to the wall insistent on ripping Bucky in half. But due to shit movie physics, a max 300lb man was able to drag him down using only body weight. Even if Cap was holding onto the railings, Tony should have been able to pull Cap up while tearing the railings.

Imagine a rocket going straight up. Movie Cap would be able to stand straight and prevent it from flying without bracing only anything because that's how strength works in movies.

>>14300276

The iron man suit can carry 13 people. That's way more than the payload of most passenger helicopters. And let's be real here, Steve was never truly deadlifting the helicopter in that scene. He jumped in-between the landing platform, and the helicopter taking while off acting as a rubber-band. The helicopter never even gained much speed.

In my opinion, yes he truly does need a bar/brace for the Iron Man suit. Because I don't buy that Steve's own bodyweight can only hold the Iron Man suit down.

>>14300621

It couldn't fly with 13 people. It barely managed a controlled landing, so even scaling the numbers down a bit to 10 or whatever seems generous if you're talking about how much it can carry while flying. Also,I really don't think Tony was in full flight or anything close to it there given he was indoors. He accelerated fast, but not hypersonically so or anything.

>>14300631

I just watched the scene again, Jarvis says he can carry 4. Tony might be able to up that number a bit while retaining flight, but he spends the entire scene slowing his fall rather than flying and has to use full counter thrust to slow down at the end by the looks of things so I really think that 13 number is being overblown.

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>>14300674
> Jarvis says he can carry 4
I though what he meant is that you can't hold more than 4 people on yourself. Let's say two on each shoulder and two in each arm. No more room. And that's why he had to make a chain. Suit is fine, it could, albeit barely, reduce to 0 falling speed of 13 people(13*~75=975 kilo, plus suit itself with a man inside is at least 500 kilo = it can lift ~1,5 tons). Carrying them all was the real challenge.

Mark 46 should be an absolute beast, but cap could hold it in place enough to damage, for some reason.

>>14300752
>for some reason.
it's like he's really strong or something

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Meanwhile in the comics...

Iron Man holds Captain America lol

>>14300752

I didn't get that feeling, it seems like he can't fly with those 13 people. Which is why he just dumped them in the water and left. Rather than bringing them all to land or doing more than a stop and drop if he could fly with them.

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>>14300674

Sorry this is completely ridiculous

Jarvis says he can carry 4. Not that 4 is his max weight. It could be that Jarvis means that 4 is max he can hold before it starts to mess with control surfaces like his flaps and rear. 4 flabby bodies moving in the wind is hard to manage. if ~ 4 bodies = about 1000 pounds then that is RIDICUOUSLY low for an Iron Man estimate given the thrust Iron Man puts out. An F-22 engine outputs 70,000 pounds of thrust, and Iron Man can outpace an F-22. That makes way more sense given that Iron Man pushed the Shield Helicarrier rotor blades to restart their engine in Avengers 1. Not gonna happen with your estimates.

And Did ya'll forget Iron Man lifting/pushing Iron Monger in Iron Man 1? The Iron Monger suit is easily the weight of a small tank. And honestly the BIG thing you all are forgetting is that in Age of Ultron, Rhodey directly TELLS everyone that the War Machine armor can carry a tank in flight. With modern tanks weighing in between 40 to 60 tons depending on loadout. Nobody acts very surprised to hear this either.

Captain America holding Iron Man down unbraced with ONE ARM makes no sense to me. Russos just wanted Captain America to look good but went overboard.

>>14300790

>Rhodey directly TELLS everyone that the War Machine armor can carry a tank in flight. With modern tanks weighing in between 40 to 60 tons depending on loadout. Nobody acts very surprised to hear this either.

I remember now. They act like it's nothing. Thor and Tony we're both very meh about it. Like so what? Not a very big deal. LOL. IMO I think your argument makes the most sense out of everyones I've read so far.

>>14300790

I stand corrected then. I imagine the way the scene in Iron-Man 3 was supposed to work, or at least what it was supposed to evoke was that Tony was in danger himself. That by choosing to try and save those 13 people he was endangering himself and that he might have hit at close to terminal velocity with them if he'd held on too long or failed. It makes the most sense to me to assume he can't fly properly with all of them because it maximizes the tension of the scene if he's in danger too, rather than him and the suit always being fine and just needing to worry about the other people falling.

Disregarding that though, Tony is chasing Bucky in that scene, but not directly. He's trying to get past Cap in that moment and even when he does he stops and blocks a door way with debris. He's not going past him directly to Bucky, he's just trying to get past him to then work his way around. Even in the airport scene we see him and Rhodey being visibly faster by leaving contrails with larger palm/foot flames as well as the smoke from contrails to indicate greater speed. Tony isn't using his full speed there and even then Cap isn't just using one hand casually. Tony drags him along and Cap stumbles to keep hold of him before striking his foot with the shield.

Yes, it's probably a directorial decision to increase tension, but to be honest, I'm okay with that. It's a visual medium and a story first and foremost. I'm okay with them fucking with the suits and making them stronger or weaker as necessary to make the story work. I don't think it's unreasonable that a suit that can fly with a tank and outpace an F-22 is held down by a superhuman that hold down a helicopter when it's only going at partial speed personally. Yea, they probably wanted to make Cap look good given it's his movie, but he is superhuman and is all along in their movies, so him being able to do it doesn't strike me as overboard or out of place.

>>14300790
>Captain America holding Iron Man down unbraced with ONE ARM makes no sense to me. Russos just wanted Captain America to look good but went overboard.

Tony wasn't exactly putting out a lot of thrust. Enough to jump past him, but I can easily imagine how he could hold him down with the strength.

The real issue is the fact that he had nothing keeping him on the ground, as pointed out by >>14299848

>>14301302

>Tony wasn't exactly putting out a lot of thrust.

How do you know this?

Are you guys trying to argue about consistency in Marvel movies? Really?

I want to read Iron Man but I don't know how comics work. I've tried to look it up but it's still confusing to me because I'm retarded. I'm familiar with manga but obviously American comics work way differently. How do I know what to read?
There's no way I really need to read everything from the last 50 years... right?

Post your best female Iron Man armor.

>>14301346
You pick up one series and pretend the others don't exist

>>14301314

By looking at any scene he's outside and thrusting and noting the difference in how it's portrayed: contrails, smoke, repulsor output. Even in terms of speed he doesn't seem to have travelled past Steve particularly fast. It was slow enough you can observe him doing it and that Cap can grab him for one. Which suggests less than optimal speed from someone who can outrun an F-22.

>>14301346

Basically, authors write Iron Man the way they want during their time on Iron Man. After a writer leaves, and a new one comes on board, most of time they ignore the previous writers work to start their own "version" of Iron Man. So pretty much pick up an issue of Iron Man, if you like the writing, then continue reading it. Then repeat. Pick an "era" that you like. Everyone has their own faves, but there are a lot of hidden gems.

>>14301369
So there's Rescue! and then...

uh....

uh

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>>14301346
I stopped visiting /co/ some time ago, but I seem to have this.

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>>14301390

>Even in terms of speed he doesn't seem to have travelled past Steve particularly fast.

That's circular reasoning. "Iron Man wasn't going fast because Steve was able to catch Iron Man because he wasn't going very fast."

Not saying your wrong, but you can't use that false line of reasoning to justify your argument. For all you know, he could have maxed out his boot jets and Steve caught him anyway.

>>14301346

If you need a recommendation list see below.

>>14274129

Great list imo.

>>14301457

Except I gave several other arguments and the main point in that line was that for someone who can outpace an F-22, him travelling fast enough for the audience to see him is slow. Not that Steve caught him, therefore he must have been slow.

>>14301390

> contrails

Contrails typically only form at very high altitudes.

>smoke

Again, high altitude

>repulsor output

Where does it say he has a different repulsor output?

>outrun F-22

We see Iron Man when he outruns F-22s....

>>14301469

>Even in terms of speed he doesn't seem to have travelled past Steve particularly fast. It was slow enough you can observe him doing it and that Cap can grab him for one.

This circular reasoning statement is half your word count for your post. And the audience can always see Iron Man even during the F-22 chase.

>>14301501

The size of the flame spike formed when Tony or Rhodey are travelling outside us bigger than the ones in the finale. So the Repulsor output is presumably lower. Also, I don't think smoke only forms in the high atmosphere.

And while we see him when he's outrunning an F-22 he's also presumably covering a lot more ground at any given interval and the camera covering more area to show how fast he's moving. When he flies past Steve the camera isn't covering much area and he literally can't be travelling at even close to the same speed to say we can see him covering that ground.

>>14301390

This argument is absurd lol

>>14301529

> there's a difference in the output if his repulsors along with their atmospheric effects and how much ground the characters are shown to be covering
> that's absurd lol

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>>14301405

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>>14263093
I rather talk about Ironing Man instead.

>>14301892

Pssh...Ironing Man. Nothing personnel kid, but I'd rather talk about Irony Man.

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>>14301892
He actually looks pretty cool. Sasuga japan.

>>14301802

I don't know why we haven't gotten Iron Girl. With all the -Girl variations on existing heroes and enduring characters like Batgirl and Spidergirl and Supergirl and what have you, you'd think it would be something people would leap to take.

>>14301947

We pretty much did we Pepper being Rescue for a few years. I thought she was an interesting take on it too, with her suit using a combination of Rand Tech magnetic technology and Stark Tech repulsor technology and being more focused on helping people, instead of fighting. So you had War Machine being a mix of Stane Tech and Stark Tech focused on fighting, Rescue being a mix of Rand Tech and Stark Tech focused on helping people and Iron Man being the middle ground with all Stark Tech and no real focus, but built for everything. She was even in the Armored Adventures series, though only in the third season and never really did much. Pepper is no longer Rescue in the comics though as far as I know, and with the third film is unlikely to ever be in the movies.

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>>14301802 is a color swap of >>14263210

>>14301970
Anyway, there have been three Rescue suits in the comics, so I'm just going to post some of all of them.

>>14302316

I don't really like that suit too much. I don't like the color seperation and the fact the waist harkens to an old timey swimsuit or something. I prefer the way >>14301802 does it, without any real obvious clothing inspiration and looking more like actual armor. I also don't like the face plate on either of them, because they look too angry and antagonistic for someone who's supposed to be a rescue worker primarily.

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>>14302316

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>>14302382

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>>14302402
Rescue Mk. I ended up getting dismantled in order to allow Tony's brain to be rebooted. I'll continue this in a couple of hours.

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>>14301970
Gwyneth Paltrow's contract expired and she doesn't want to come back unless Pepper has a bigger role. BLACK WIDOW AND PEPPER TEAM-UP MOVIE WHEN, FEIGE?!

The irony is, now would be the perfect time to do it. It could be an adaptation of the Black Reign story arc, but since MCU Spider-Man hasn't been around long enough to establish Norman Osborn as a villain, Thunderbolt Ross can replace him. He could try to arrest Tony for abetting in the escape of prisoners from the Raft, Tony would become a fugitive and he could leave the Rescue suit for Pepper. There could be the same subplot about Maria Hill vs. the Controller as in the comic, and you could even replace Maria with Black Widow and the Controller with Arnim Zola.

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>>14303052
Okay, more Rescue.

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>>14303064
That's Rhodey in the Tron suit, BTW.

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>>14303095
Rescue Mk. II had to be destroyed when Pepper discovered its AI had fallen in love with her, and the Mandarin was using it as a Trojan Horse.

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>>14303098
Rescue Mk. III was built by Good Tony Stark (a program running on one of his old suits) to oppose Evil Tony Stark, the Superior Iron Man.

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>>14303111
Shortly after this, the Secret Wars event reset the entire Marvel Universe, so AFAIK nobody knows whether Pepper still has a Rescue suit or not.

>>14303095
western comic artists can't draw human anatomy

>>14301802
Mark 45 has a better ass than that

>>14302418
are those titty guns?

>>14302316
> >>14301802 is a color swap of >>14263210
Actually, if you look for source, blue version will be the original. And it's not resque. Artist calls it iron girl or something.

>>14301390
>>14301521

Wow so your whole argument is ... the boot jets dont have a big flame on them therefore = slow iron man.

Sorry but this anon...

>>14300790

...pretty much destroyed any argument you could make. And not with speculation, but with hard evidence

The only thing to say is that the directors made Cap look REAL good in the movie, and dialed back iron man a ton.

>>14263093
Honestly I think this armour looks like total shit. Super bland and I hate the faceplate that makes it look like his chin is fucked up. I would rather have the black "It's not the movie armour, honest" suit over this

>>14300313
>I'm sure that Tony was flying at full throttle because he was balls to the wall insistent on ripping Bucky in half.
Why would he want to break the sound barrier in an enclosed space.

>>14300790

Daaaaaaaaammmmmmmnnnnnnnnnn. This post just SHUT DOWN all the haters. Way to go boy.

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>>14301405
>>14301947
Ultimate Tony gave an armor to Black Widow before she turned out to be evil and he had to kill her.
There was also an Iron Woman in the Mangaverse, if you want to acknowledge that shit exists. It's actually her in that "Iron Dendrobium" page that people post sometimes.

>>14307353
>that dialogue

hahaha oh wow

>>14307353
That dialogue's shopped in, right? They didn't actually write that?

>>14307406
comic book dialogue is actually like that.
Frankly I'm surprised there aren't more randomly bolded words

>>14307406
just do a reverse image search, if it's shopped in then the original with the actual dialogue is likely to be the more popular image

google image search isn't so precise that it'll only find duplicates with the exact same text. it recognizes images based on shapes, patterns, and colors, it doesn't OCR text on pictures

Didn't comic cap smash the Extremis armor's helmet open in the comic, too?

Cap's no stranger to feats of retard strength, and the movie's no exception.

CAROL WAS RIGHT

>>14308584
>Marvel post-2007
>Anyone ever being right besides Cyclops

Nah, bro.

>>14308584
>reading civil war 2

>>14308584
Of course she was. Marvel's been trying all they can to push her for years now.

>>14307353
>There was also an Iron Woman in the Mangaverse, if you want to acknowledge that shit exists. It's actually her in that "Iron Dendrobium" page that people post sometimes.
I actually liked Mangaverse(minus that crappy Punisher comic), at least the early stuff before they went maximum edgelord and killed off almost every single character and ruined that universe(although Mangaverse Spiderman's appearance as part of Spider-Verse seemed to hint at Marvel deciding to ignore the later stuff)

>>14310956

I quite like Carol, if mostly as a theoretical thing, because I like her powers as Binary, her history with Rogue and so on. The comic she had when I was reading that stuff about 10 years ago was decent too. What are they doing with her now?

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>>14310998
> Iron Dendrobium
Holy shit, is this for real?

>>14315818
>filename
>green toguro
Notice the tail in the last panel? The Hulk is Godzilla.

>>14318088
I don't even.

>>14312068
Painting over all the things that made Carol interesting and turning her into a feminist paragon because editorial wants an answer to Wonder Woman.

I'm not even being facetious. After two (!) bouts of amnesia, she's literally not the same Carol she was years ago. No PR issues, no alcohol addiction, she's even leading two different superhero teams. She's basically a more well-rounded Fem Shep.

Well, okay, maybe not too well-rounded. Her rampant bloodlust is getting some mention, even if it is played as more of a joke. Other than that it's the usual pining for a more normal life, even as she admits to preferring to murder aliens 24/7.

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>Carol Danvers initially possessed superhuman strength, endurance, stamina, flight, physical durability, a limited precognitive "sixth sense", and a perfectly amalgamated human/Kree physiology that rendered her resistant to most toxins and poisons.
So she's Superman? I know nothing about comics.

>>14318331

Well, she did start life as a feminist paragon who worked at a feminist magazine I guess, so it's not surprising. It's a pity the PR angle is gone though, I enjoyed that. Her wanting more recognition and attention for her contributions and powers instead of a normal life and using PR to get it was pretty unusual, and made her stand out.the alcoholism always felt like a Tony Stark runoff but it did give her some faults so it's a pity it's gone. Oh well.

>>14303192

'Cape-killer units' hahahaha Civil War was such trash.

>>14301947

Bendis (notorious comics writer, go check /co/ if you don't know him) is killing War Machine in the new Civil War 2 comics event and giving us a new War Machine who's a girl. As in, an actual teenage girl, who built an Iron Man suit in her basement.

>>14318475

As much as most of that sounds rubbish, the self built part is good and I think even necessary to make War Machine his own hero. As is he's reliant on Tony making, fixing and upgrading all his suits and Tony can just put whatever he likes in his own suits. War Machine needs to be able to do that stuff on his own to put some distance between them.

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>>14318475
>a girl
Another one? I see a trend here. "Reboot a character? Just make him a her! *cash register sound*"
But I do agree with >>14318486

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Here's a picture. A bigger boxier IM suit that stole the ZZ forehead thingy.

>>14318486

I never thought about it that way, you're totally right, I always think of him as 'Tony's Sidekick' rather than his own thing. I think if they wanted to go home-made with the suit though it should look a little more fucked-up, even when you take into account that in Marvel, 'super-smart' means 'can invent world-changing technology in the basement'.


Bendis likes to insert his characters into comics and apparently the easiest way to do so is via killing old chars and replacing them with his own. That's a discussion more for /co/ than here tough.

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>>14318956
As I was saying on /co/, the forehead and the antennas look like an Ingram.

Rhodes worked better as a Sentinel pilot

>>14319043

Reminds me more of a classic Optimus Prime to be honest.

>>14318956

Have any of Bendis' own characters gotten big? The only two I associate with him are Luke Cage, who isn't even his, he just likes and Miles Morales, who is only big relatively and who only managed to replace Ultimate Spider Man but will never be big enough to replace 616 Spidey. The only reason he could even pull Miles was because it was an alternate universe and needed a kick to make it interesting again frankly.

As for that War Machine, I can't see it taking off. Long time readers will probably dislike it on the whole because she's replacing Rhodey, while casuals will just be coming off the movies and wonder where Rhodey is.

I don't like the suit either. It lacks identity. Tony had his red/gold color scheme, the faceplate and repulsors, War Machine was an Iron-Man knock off that had Rhodey's identity by putting loads of guns on a suit a soldier was using - this is just there. And I just can't see a teenager inventing it. Not even just a teenage girl, but a teenager full stop, because no teenager is going to invent power armor and then just make it plain black or plain grey. There's no personal touches or flair on it. It worked for Rhodey because he wasn't a teenager but was a soldier and more concerned with the mission and such than the armor itself, it doesn't work here.

>>14319087

Actually scanning back you're 100% right, I just assumed Jessica Jones was 'his' because of Alias, but nope. Maybe a better way to say it is that he plays favourites? I know he said a thing about making Avengers the 'big' team for Marvel like Justice League is for DC, rather than the B-team it previously got used as before the MCU, then put Cage and Jones in it (laffo).

Also yeah agreeing no teenager would make that and not at least colour it in.

>>14263215
I own the Figuarts, but I'll try to get the sentinel one, eventually. I've grown tired of movie designs.

>>14319153

Wait, if he thinks the Avengers was a B team before the movies who does he think Marvel's A team is? Also, Jessica has no place on the Avengers. I don't dislike her, but she doesn't fit there and her not being a big time hero or even wanting to be one was the most interesting part of her character.

>>14318956

Unfortunately, you can't create a "new" iron man because it's been done already. The person in the suit of technology who is self-made.

A new character is a suit of armor would have to have distinctively different origins, and a distinctively different design. Her helmet even resembles Iron Man.

The closest thing I could think of would have to be some sort of guyver-like suit not based in technology origins.

>>14319723

Even that's already been done for War Machine, who used an alien suit of armor for a while. It didn't stick though. You could possibly count the symbiote suit Spider Man too.

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>>14319723
> guyver-like suit not based in technology origins
YES, PLEASE!
Bio-armors are the best and cool as fuck.

>>14319723

I don't know that you can really call Tony self made anymore, because his dad and Stark being his company with Tony inheriting it has been such a big part of the character for years.

DC's Steel is probably a better example of a self made guy in a suit of armor.

So MCU already has Bleeding Edge, if they continue like this they're going to surpass the comics

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>>14319189

X-Men always felt more prominent in popular culture than Avengers did before the MCU, and even now Spider-Man still outsells them by some ludicrous margin.

>>14319723

X-O Manowar from Valiant has a pretty unique origin for 'dude in a suit of special armour'. He was a Visigoth kidnapped with the rest of his tribe by aliens to be slaves. After a few years he eventually breaks free with Shannara, a semi-sentient semi-organic suit of armour (and more recently a kind of ball of tech that hovers near him and forms around him when he needs it to) and fucks shit up. I've not really read any of the new Valiant stuff but people say good things about it.

>>14320528

That's not Bleeding Edge. I don't know why you fans call it that. It resembles the comic version, but Tony isn't bleeding it from his pores with nano-technology. It's just a really lightweight Iron man suit equipped with non-lethal weapons.

>>14321680
Ok, for the sake of conversation I'll rephrase, now that MCU has copied the looks of Bleeding Edge what will they do when they surpass the comics?