This mech triggers me. It has a completely indestructible forcefield

>>14183032
>mech
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as a Mech, is in fact, メカニカル, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Mecha. Mecha is not a genre unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning concept made manifest by the existence of vehicles, military equipment and of course, robots, comprising a full concept as defined by MAHQ.

Many posters use a modified definition of the メカニカル term every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of メカニカル which is widely used today is often called Mech, and many of its posters are not aware that it is basically the Robotech term, developed by Harmony Gold.
So unless discussing Robotech or Battletech, please refer to giant robots as "Mecha" and remember to lurk before posting to get used to board culture and knowledge on the subject that is unknown to you.

>>14183045
and thats how you trigger people.

>>14183032
Stick to G-Reco faggot.

>>14183032
Maybe it needed a shitload of body mass to support the barrier of disintegrate everything.

>>14183134
Then why not just put those barriers around their giant space fortresses that they sent to earth.

Then beam the forcefield energy to a bunch of low level troops in speedy mechs and leave the rest of the mechs with other wierd and stupid powers to do what they want and send in the shielded destroyers of all to deal with the big shit.

>>14183032
>Questioning Aldonoah.Zero
The real question is why the fuck did even pick this up?

>>14183143
A possible answer is that they don't know how to properly reverse engineer the tech in it.

The real answer is that going "why didn't they just x" in Aldnoah.Zero will end in nothing but repeatedly noting how bad the writing is.

>>14183032
>retarded martians

That's your answer, OP.

These fucking morons decided to build their civilization on a death world and declare war on the Earth with all fucking 1 of their resources instead of doing their goddamn jobs and becoming instant celebrities.

>>14183153
WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT THE FUCKING ALDNOAH DRIVE BACK IN THE GODDAMN DEUCALION KATAPHRAKT AND LET AUTISM-KUN SOLO THE ENTIRE VERS EMPIRE

>>14183186
Why didn't they just make more of those eyeball computers?

>>14183195
Neither of you asked the important question.

Was the emperor always named Rayregalia vers Rayvers or did he seriously change his name to that shit?

>>14183032
advice:

drop it now, don't continue, don't waste your time, life is too short to waste it watching crap, I know, i watched Aldnoah and miss those 13 hours of my life everyday

>>14183205
Seriously, listen to him

Don't even bother watching the rest. It's not worth it

>scientists who discover progenitor mars tech decide feudalism and social castes are best system of government and societal structure

>>14183215
Those guys are right.
However, my hobby is watching crap but not so crap they are horrid anime for stupid ideas characters situations and stories and figuring out how they worked or could have worked better.
Then applying it to my own horrible fanfiction tier works.

>>14183045
>/g/ memes
wew lad

>>14183032
Ah, when Aldnoah Zero was good

Admittedly, despite how shit Aldnoah was, it was at least entertaining.
Something IBO can't boast

>>14183205
See >>14183215 >>14183230
It won't get better for you.

>>14183265
Sadly, I agree with this.

Why didnt they build more of the ice robot
That was an unbeatable design, they just had to walk slowly towards the enemy

>>14183143

You are presuming that you can just displace your absorption barrier wherever you want. The barrier has never been seen to extend more than an inch or two away from the surface of the mech. My guess is that the pillbug was super bulky because there is no single barrier device, the barrier generation tech had to be integrated throughout the entire machine over and over again in order to ensure coverage.

Don't think of it like a star trek style forcefield, think of it like an electromagnet.

Personally I subscribe to the idea no one understands how Aldnoah technology works beyond "it just does."

For reasons no one understands, the Aldnoah drive on the purple ogre gives it a matter annihilating field, unique purely to itself and impossible to recreate elsewhere.

>>14185081

That, or a lot of their specialized technology is martian tech they found rather than built.

They figured out how to make the barrier generators work, but they only have any many barrier generators as they excavate. Enough for only a few mechs, plus some for study.

They can produce some things, like the space rifles or the drone weapons. but that would explain why so many of their powerful mechs are unique one-offs.

The whole point of the martian city is that it is full of ancient powerful aldnoah tech. Its unrealistic to think that they have a 100% understanding of everything in it and they build everything they use themselves instead of repurposing existing artifacts.

>>14185175
>>14185081
From what I understood they were simply just using what was already made, when we saw the cockpit they just pilot by holding on glowing orbs on their seats, what actually disppoints me about the anime is how they never went further into the aliens who made everything, they are fucking technowizards, they able to rewrite the laws of the universe, like with that MArtian mech who could make 1:1 clones of himself, down to the goddamn pilot

>>14185209
Some mysteries are best left as that.

It's like wanting Roadside Picnic to spend a chapter talking about the true origin of the Visitation Zones, their artifacts, and all the unexplained mysterious weird shit that goes on in its world.

Incidentally I really like the idea of inexplicable superscience that arbitrarily bends the known laws of reality over and makes them its bitch, especially if there's no actual understanding why that happens. Certainly it comes off as a sort of straight up declaration that the creator is going to give reality the finger whenever it suits their needs and thus within the domain of questionable writing, but I also think in a way it makes people uncomfortable by taking the inherent human compulsion to understand things and telling it "no, you don't get to understand why this works, you never will, and if it leaves you unsettled, that's your problem; deal with it."

People want to understand things, throwing things that refuse to permit understanding at the audience digs into a certain variety of discomfort I find appealing.

>>14183203

right i can't imagine anybody walking around every day being called that.

its just too silly.

>>14183227
He probably attended the same university as Doctor Hell for his undergrad

>>14183032
You're going to love it when they introduce the guy whose robot gimmick could have solved world hunger(and all the bullshit MArs was complaining about throughout the show) in season 2.

>>14183032
>Gais, we have this thing that generates ultra-destructive surfarces, let's install it on something that has as little surfarce as possible

We really don't know the physics behind this physics-breaking device, so we have to assume that they tested it on civilians and found that more surfarce = better at sucking up protesters faster = GREAT HONOUR

Though yeah, AZ is not something you watch when you don't hate yourself in the first place.

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And then we come to this guy.

Earth forces, when you were getting nuked by giant space fortresses smashing into cities, I felt for you. When a ludicrously overpowered laser mech appeared that sliced you apart, there really wasn't much you could do.

But when a mech whose sole superpower is having a fucking plasma sword comes and you piss yourselves instead of moving AT ALL, my sympathy runs out. Jesus christ, I don't think it even had boosters to accelerate it. The fucking thing just walked up slowly to the hapless earthlings and all they did was tremble.

>>14185295
It's the grand tradition of /m/ names. He follows in the steps of greats before him such as Amandra Kamandra and Revive Revival.

>>14186120
>send a bunch of edgy assholes towards Mars with nothing but 70s super robot shows for entertainment
>receve Vers

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>>14186155
If the goal was maximum surface area, there are better ways to go about it than giant shoulderpad armor.

>>14186158
>will take damage from being shot ANYWHERE
>fucking trained soldiers who outnumber him don't manage to fall back and take him into a pincer

Then again, everybody who wasn't the autistic kid was useless and everybody who wasn't with the autistic kid was dead meat walking.

More importantly, how are the Martians resource-starved when they have a mech that can literally perfectly duplicate both itself and its pile?

>>14186175
It's a theory. It's likely that not even the authors cared to put down any parameters on how their magic shit works.

But man, a flower-parasol mech that cuts the fuck out of everything as it slowly unfolds itself and then languidly starts demolishing the fuck outta everything would've been pretty boss.
Instead we got an edgy dude who was kill by a teenage torture porn bait.

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>>14186181
Don't you know?

>>14186181
Nobody knows how Aldnoah works.

Not the martians.
Not the earthers.

Not the writers. Especially not the writers.

>>14186181
>mecha for building
>pilot for eating

>>14186208
As long as you don't eat the original it doesn't count as cannibalism, right?

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>>14186181
>be resource-starved
>build a shitton of One-shot sky castle meant to be slammed into earth
>keep ALL OF THOSE CASTLES fed for more than a decade AFTER THEY EXPLICITLY REFUSED to even take any of your orders into consideration, now or in the future
>Go full SAVE FACE GOTTA SAVE FACE after you've been told that they're trying to put an end to your dynasty and will be coming to overthrow you soon

Fucking Vers, how does it work?

>>14186178
Not true, Slaine survived till the end and he wasn't with the autist. Only so he could suffer more, though.

>>14186158
Sword guy is literally when I dropped the show

>>14186221
It doesn't.

Though honestly, the king has traditionally been subordinate to his vassals; most of his authority derives from being able to count on oaths of fealty to bolster his power to punish errant vassals to keep them in line.

>>14186178
>don't manage to fall back and take him into a pincer
Then he uses his secret weapon, his other sword.

>>14186749
That's when the Earth forces pull out their trump card: water.

It's a never ending game of one-upsmanship.

>>14186749
Hidden within a glove compartment.

Salvaged from an ancient golf cart.

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So let's say you have the magical power to turn normal material into incredibly resilient armor, and you can project this ability to at least 6 other targets, do you then:

A.Use that magical power to give yourself a suit of kickass armor
B.Get a bunch of buddies and give them suits of kickass armor
C.Armor your entire fucking space fortress and just fall on people over and over
D.make 6 semi-useless funnels that can only hurt something by directly ramming into it.

If you're a martian, you of course respond with D.

>>14189674
Armor is honestly the least useful thing you can do with this ability. It'd be a tremendous help for all sorts of construction projects. Or, you could use it to create absolutely absurd artillery pieces. Overpressure? What's that, I can't hear you over the sound of my 600mm shells going mach 6 cause I can just keep on packing in explosives since I don't have to worry about my barrel exploding.

It's like the Martians just watched a bunch of cartoons and toku, thought it was history and based their mecha on that. Why does this sound familiar?

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>>14189725
It almost like they're the Successors to another failed colonizing project.

>>14189763
So what you're saying is that season 3 will have the war restart and then the nad...er, the Deucalion will fly to mars to put a stop to it? And that they'll break slaine out of prison to be their cook?

>>14189725
At least that show had a White Base-type carrier.

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>>14183045

>>14183032
I feel it is an in universe plot point that the martians are a sort of cargo cult wrt their technology, I mean Slade was the first one who used martian shit to its logical implications.

>>14189787
>not knowing about the Stallman interjection and its derivatives?

http://www.lurkmore.com/view/GNU/Linux_interjection

>>14183032
Probably had very bulky technology inside that required large volume.

>>14189674
E: Build a fucking orbital elevator.

>>14185246
>People want to understand things, throwing things that refuse to permit understanding at the audience digs into a certain variety of discomfort I find appealing.

Yeah,and this show could have benefied from that if it were the central drama/theme instead of doing yet another Gundam war and later throwing away interesting aspects like this in favor of a cliched love triangle and a rushed ending shoved down audience's throat.

>>14190863
Oh,and I forgot to add how those unexplainable tech powered Martian mechs were easily taken down a autistic Nipponese Boy by the power of wikipedia because for some reason anyone near his presence ,whether be trained soldiers of Terra or Knights who possess those majestic mechs turn stupid and die no matter what.

>>14189674
Didn't it only get the super armor when it locked itself into a single position and that it wasn't all that useful since it had to drop the armor to even turn around, I honestly found that mech one of the more useless ones since it was a glorified lance

I'm more interested in finding out how they hell they managed to create an aristocracy in like 40 years. Probably a fraction of that to establish the damn thing.

Most of the Orbital Knights were probably born on Earth.

>>14191301
>how they hell they managed to create an aristocracy in like 40 years
Magical martian tech chose for them.

>>14191086
Yeah, but you can have several unmoving plates set up so they slide past each other and provide full protection over a human-shaped surface. See: Medieval plate armor.

This is basically phase shift armor from SEED.

>>14186120
This makes me glad I pretended the series ended after finishing season one.

>>14190907
>because for some reason anyone near his presence ,whether be trained soldiers of Terra or Knights who possess those majestic mechs turn stupid and die no matter what.

I still think that Aldnoah engine radiation is what made people retarded.

>>14183045
>We_at_robotechx.png

>>14183032
this mecha reminds me of that Scrooge comic about demodulizer goo thing

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>>14183045
What is this unholy use of our lord and saviour's wisdom and Harmony Gold
>>14183236
>Implying Stallman isn't /m/

>>14189776

Fund it.

>>14192361
Why Eggs was exception then>

>>14192660
It was very obvious that Autism immunizes people against the effect, no?

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Captain Mars, he's our hero, gonna take autism down to zero...

So aside from the obvious stupidity of having a combining mecha, this guy does not seem to understand his plasma sword is a weaker weapon than his bullshit magical forcefield. If he wanted a prosthetic penis that badly, he should've held a telephone pole or the aldnoah equivalent of it and extended his forcefield around it.

He also fires his fists, but it's not clear whether they used the super armor trick since they had disintegration fields around them. So you can project that now, too. Neat. No practical uses for that, I'm sure.

If it DID have the super armor trick, then there is no reason this thing has any vulnerabilities at all. Armor up the portions of the mech not covered by your forcefield. Done. I don't think even martian engineers are that stupid.

>>14191442
But the only reason the armor was invencible was because it had energy running through it, it wouldn't work by giving other mechs or soldiers to wear it since they wouldn't be able to movie as the energy course through the plates, this is why I find it to be one of the useless ones, the only way it could have its gimmick use was the way it did in the show

>>14193506
Nah, it could only use one power at a time and the super armor was only on the arms

>>14193628
It was definitely using both the shield and the sword at the same time, since autist-kun had to dodge disintegration fists and swords simultaneously.

But i can totally see martian engineers only putting super armor into the arms. Who wants to remove the only weaknesses a mech using magical bullshit forcefields has?

>>14193620
I'd say super armor is one of the strongest abilities shown. It'd really shine on something that doesn't have many moving surfaces, like a fighter jet or a ship.

For a fighter, you can make the thing out of tissue paper, saving weight, allowing it to be both faster and more maneuverable. The same logic applies to guns, so you could get something more like a flying tank in terms of durability and firepower, yet even more zippy than a normal fighter.

The uses in a ship are basically the same, but moreso. A priori invulnerability coupled with yuuuuge guns.

This is *the* builder ability. It allows you to bypass so many physical limitations on structures and vehicles it's crazy.

>>14193506
His was pretty much the only cool mech in the show. Somebody made an illustration of the team as SDs and I want that as plamo.

>>14193733
>I'd say super armor is one of the strongest abilities shown. It'd really shine on something that doesn't have many moving surfaces, like a fighter jet or a ship.

Super armor for the viewports and the soles of the feet, disintegration field for everything else.

There you go, you're pretty much invincible.

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>>14183045

This copypasta is getting annoying.

Mech = singular
Mechs = plural
Mecha = mass noun. Has no singular or plural, just like "machinery" or "equipment."

And the term "mech" comes from Battletech, not Robotech. Silly goofball.

>>14193787
>And the term "mech" comes from Battletech, not Robotech. Silly goofball.
Implying this isn't another dank layer to trigger two disliked "_"tech fanbases simultaneously.

>Mech = singular
>Mechs = plural
>Mecha = mass noun. Has no singular or plural, just like "machinery" or "equipment."

Wholly inaccurate.

>>14186120
I can't remember much of this show, which are you talking about? That whole plotline was retarded with the tech they have though, there's a myriad of ways they could mine for resources with those deus ex machinas

>>14186221
>keep ALL OF THOSE CASTLES fed for more than a decade AFTER THEY EXPLICITLY REFUSED to even take any of your orders into consideration, now or in the future

And even though they were constantly losing those castles and mecha during the war and all the workers/supplies/tech within it's no big deal at all despite them allegedly lacking in resources.
There was a time in S2 the blonde guy led an attack on a part of earth to claim land for a kingdom or some shit, the next day every count/knight sent died AND the landing castle was lost and the show never brings it up again

>>14191301
>isolate themselves for ONLY 40 years
>pure martian blood generations aren't even in full bloom yet
>already treating earth-born as subhuman race

Trying to fit too many themes but nobody bother to see if it fits with the lore.

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I have no words for this one.

It straight up violates the second law of thermodynamics and the best the martians can think of is a giant snow maker. They can build a fucking perpetual motion machine and instead they make this...thing.

What the fuck, mars?

Post robots pls

>>14199436
Not to mention that this one exemplifies how retarded their pilots are. Inaho did whatever gimmicks to keep himself from freezing over while covering the distance, but all tat would have been for nothing if this dude did something other than stand completely still the entire time.

>>14200402
At best, you can claim they got complacent because they're easily able to stomp any Earth resistance with their batshit OP mechs.
But that doesn't make sense either, since there's no way they didn't use said OP mechs against another batshit OP mech.

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>>14200576
>At best, you can claim they got complacent because they're easily able to stomp any Earth resistance with their batshit OP mechs.
They did? It seemed like the first war was a phyrric victory at best, what with them being stranded above Earth and not doing shit for over a decade. Also keep in mind, that Earth Forces somehow managed to get off Earth and assault the Vers' magical portal that allows for the instant transfer of troops from Mars to Earth in numbers significant enough for everything to get completely out of hand.

And the first mech to make landfall during the first war actually got its pilot taken out somehow. Apparently by the tank unit it mostly ravaged. We saw how badly they did during the second invasion whenever they met serious resistance without their landing castles having their backs as well.

>>14200592
Well, they should be able to stomp. That they don't is just more proof of retardation.

>>14199436
So like I said before, I'm convinced the Martians have no clue how Aldnoah technology works in the first place.

>>14200735
It's a much more fundamental problem that starts with a bunch of highly trained astronauts and engineers having no fucking idea about physics.

Which is why I propose that the engine's radiation causes retardation.

>>14200868
Inexplicable superscience that is barely understood from a black box perspective.

Granted, it'd be pretty cool for them to take the giant frostbot and build around it such that it's used as a heatsink for some other machine, but that'd be it's own weird post-apocalyptic setting where people are making use of reality-defying super machines for practical, well understood and (most importantly) reproducible applications.

>>14200986
As that other dude said, even if you don't understand how your magic perpetuum mobile works, you should be able to figure out that free unlimited energy can actually solve a lot of problems for you.

>>14183032
This is actually a continuing theme in AZ. Vers has all this cool tech and no idea how to use it. Which actually makes some sense. Vers as an empire has only existed for maybe 40 years and there's no reason to believe that any of the original settlers were soldiers.

So on one hand you've got Vers knights that dress up like victorian officers, don't wear space suits or seatbelts, and often lack secondary weapons. On the other, you've got the Earth Forces that pack both AP and HE munitions for their primary armament, have a single adaptable kataphract line, built in ejection systems, functional uniforms good for all conditions, and controls so intuitive that Rayet managed to become effective with in maybe a week.

>>14201497
>This is actually a continuing theme in AZ
Its not. Its just poorly written

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>>14201497
Except for the fact that this mech exists.

It's fast, maneuverable, has both ranged and close combat weapon options and most importantly - none of that is dependent on its (insanely OP) magic abilities.

Speaking of those magic abilities, it's implied that slaine could use its precognition powers to see at least a day into the future when he set up his trap for foster dad. So why didn't he spend the majority of his free time in this thing when he was implementing his big takeover? How in the world did the princess waking up and regaining her memories catch him by surprise?

>>14201579

This show only remembers plot points when it's convenient. At the end it claims "only the immediate future can be seen" but when the murder was planned it was a day/hours ahead that would be seen. It's just whatever power the writers want to make the character sound cool
I don't even understand how aldnoah gives you future sight.

>>14201603
To be fair, if the commander of an army could see even an hour into the future, that army would probably be invincible. Especially if they started from a position of technological superiority.

So if they had let the Tharsis keep those abilities, the ending would make even less sense.

>>14201613
>To be fair, if the commander of an army could see even an hour into the future, that army would probably be invincible.

It would mostly be unorganized, nervous and jumpy. One hour's probably too short a timeframe to move people and materiel around and to correctly estimate the long-term consequences of such actions. At best, people very far down the chain of command could use that ability to improve their survival- and success-rate to some degree.

>>14201622
I don't see that. Imagine a modern military doing it's thing as normal, except that the commander can see any surprise attacks/ambushes before they happen and how they are going to happen. He can tell if an attack is going to succeed or fail before the first bullet is fired. He could know whether estimates of enemy positions and numbers were correct or not.

It's basically the ultimate expression of getting inside an enemy's OODA loop.

>>14201622
Only if you're retarded and react to every little thing. If you plan well and have a good picture of the battle, you'd basically be invincible. Enemies can't trap you and you can make a near-perfect counter to anything they might bother to do.

>>14201613
Considering the almost god-like capabilities we've seen from the martian mechs, they should be invincible even without prediction bot. Hell like this anon said, they wouldn't even have supposed hunger issues >>14186120. But they are written as idiots who don't use their literal god given abilities, which change on a whim anyway. Fafner Exodus had prediction/future changing abilities and actually used it in an interesting way.

>>14186217
Theyre all the original.

>>14201654
>>14201683
Generally, plans are laid down well to the excess of an hour in advance. The higher up you go the chain of command, the longer the planning and the duration covered in those plans is going to end up.

A precog-ability of merely an hour's basically just another component of the sort of sensor suite you'd add to a command vehicle to improve command and control in the field or to guns to improve the laying.

The main thing it's got going for it is that it is a Panopticon as there don't seem to be any limits as to what place you can observe from your current position. So the aerospace industry would hate it as everybody'd plain stop using scout drones, scout aircrafts and scout sattelites.

>have world saving machines
>know you could save your people
>but no, you're stranded in Earth's orbit because your kingdom refuses to do anything to bring you back home, you have to stand guard on the frontline FOREVER
>get super butthurt about it
>decide to wage war at your kingdom's expense (and the life of its princess) since if they're not going to do anything about saving their people, might as well drag the name of Vers through the mud

>>14201830
>because your kingdom refuses to do anything to bring you back home
I believe some knights chose to stay in orbit despite the emperor calling them back to mars because they have nothing better to do than stare at earth and wait for it to do something that offends them so they can attack. How they manage to do repairs, restock supplies and wage war at a moment's notice etc with low resources is magic I guess

>>14200592
The Deucalion? That one was pretty much invincible to tanks, it was damaged by a chunk of the Moon beaning it from above.e

The Dioscuria was there too and took minor damage.

>>14201579
This was one of the few smart designs, very practical, and not surprising considering its original order.

They really could of just said that that level of precog is exhausting and not practical for obvious reasons. Basically, it could make it impossible to multitask observation and reaction. The eye is just as bad as precog dogfighter in that respect.

>>14201767
>Generally, plans are laid down well to the excess of an hour in advance.
It doesn't matter how long ago the plan was made if the plan only has an operational time of an hour or so. Even then, perfect forsight for an hour is enough time to almost comlpetely rout the enemy if you know their own actions before they even do them.

>>14201579
>it's implied that slaine could use its precognition powers to see at least a day into the future
When Slaine gets back to the moonbase, he tells his aide Harklight that he followed Harklight's calculations and shot rounds where he was told to, it wasn't precog in that instance.

I'm still miffed at how that plan hinged on Slaine leading his target to a rather small area, but he proceeded to chase his target around the entire battlefield until adopted dad comes in. And how adopted dad could've lived if he bothered to actually move in between volleys; there was a lag time between when he was damaged by the first volley and when the second hit.

>>14202716
They wouldn't have put in his line about precog not seeing quite far enough ahead unless he was using it to aid the shots.

Or, at least, competent scriptwriters wouldn't have put that in.

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This makes mech #2 that demonstrates nigh mastery over gravity.

So to recap, martians can
-create shields that annihilate all matter and energy that impact them
-turn normal materials into almost indestructible macromolecules
-tell the 2nd law of thermodynamics to go fuck itself
-control gravity

They state they are having a resource shortage on mars. They can't be running out of energy, because of point #3 above. So lets say they're low on carbon compounds and water. You know how they could fix that?

Build gravity drives onto their ships, fly to europa and titan in hours, pick up continent sized chunks of hydrocarbons or water, fly it back to mars and dump it somewhere.

Also restart mars' core so they have a good magnetic field around the planet. And then drill down to the mohorovicic discontinuity with the disintegration fields as drill bits, hardening the tunnel behind them with super armor. That takes care of all their metal needs.

Or they could like, move mars into a different orbit. Maybe move venus and terraform that. Or go to another star system because they have FUCKING GRAVITY DRIVES WITH UNLIMITED ENERGY.

But no, instead they'll make ineffectual mechs and embroil themselves in a completely pointless war. Cause seriously, what exactly do they hope to accomplish here? Colonize earth from mars? They could just fucking buy enough land to house their entire population if they wanted to return.

Fucking martians, man.

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>>14203614
Mars rays have fascinating effects on the mind.

>>14203618
Reminder that these fuckers were living in a colony that could've been flown to the Earth sphere at literally any time. Also, they had Earth's prime minister in their pocket and could've gotten some fucking aid or anything, and instead they tried to kill their in-guy on Earth.

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I liked this mech. No frills, its trick is crazy powerful and done well. It needed bigger jump boosters and those drones the disintegration shield mechs had, but aside from that, good job martians!

The way it got taken out was complete bullshit though. I actually did the math - Deucalion had to be at least 40 miles away to be under the horizon, and we know the shells took 5 seconds to reach their targets. That's about 29000 mile per hour, or mach 37. Escape velocity is mach 33. Those shells couldn't curve back down and hit the surface because they're going on a trip to orbit. Some poor bastard up there is going to get an object lesson about how sir isaac newton is the deadliest motherfucker in space.

There's also the fact that his missile spam skycastle is right there. All he needed to do was call in an artillery strike.

>>14203614
No one understands Aldnoah technology!

>>14194410
Infinite perfect clones guy. All he had to do was stick one meal inside the mech and they could have fed the entire planet forever. There was also other resource bullshit complaints and he solves those too.

>>14206758
It's a reasonable fan theory to explain how martians have about 3 brain cells to rub together amongt the lot of them. However, the show never even hints at that explanation. It does the opposite constantly, in fact, showing that the martians have mastery over aldnoah, with the main bottleneck being the Vers emperor only granting very few people the capability to use it.

>>14206758
If the martians didn't design the robots, someone else must have. So why did they design it to be retarded?

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>>14206619
Doing a bit more math because i found it amusing, it seems like the Deucalions main guns have a muzzle velocity around 13000 meters/second. For comparison, an Iowa-Class BB's main guns had a muzzle velocity around 800 m/s. Let's assume the Deucalion fires shells the same size as the iowa, at around 860 kg a piece. That puts the kinetic energy in each shell at .5 * 860*16000^2, or 1761 TeraJoules. For comparison, Hiroshima was a 63 TJ explosion. Every single shell fired is a 4 megaton nuke when it hits something solid.

I find the mental picture of autist-kun and the rest of the Earth forces getting baked extra crispy from the first volley pretty amusing, I have to admit.

>>14183032
>caring this much about such an awful show
>THIS autistic shit being the thing that bothers you about A/Z and not the actual meaningful massive deficiencies in story, character, pacing etc.
Please fuck off.

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>>14206896
Er, made some bad calculations there. Each shell has .07 TJ, which is far more reasonable. Still packing something like 350 times the energy of a modern battleship shell.

>>14206928
Fuck off I enjoyed OPs autistic rants about each mech. Take it easy faggot.

>>14191380
Wrong, it chose one guy who they declared king and the only people who can directly use the tech are the people he chose instead.

That's not the chosen people, that's one guy getting the magic on switch because he touched the alien gizmo first.

>>14191301
The original crew were chuu2. Hence why upon finding an empty planet and 'it just works' tier tech, they basically just start all the empire shit and gave each other stupid names and build cool but impractical weapons.

>>14193911
>Wholly inaccurate.

Wrong.

I liked A/Z S1's "Jojo puzzle superpower battles but with mecha" theme.

Pity the second season was fucking garbage.

>>14206928
The fact that the show has mecha that can solve all of mars issue thus negating the shows conflict is a story issue.and OP's posts have been great

>>14206619
Mah nigga.

I like Solis for the same reason I like Remiel - lasers. Too bad it died like a bitch.

>>14206769
Actually, why didn't he just keep one clone far away from the fighting? He'd basically have been immortal.

>>14208359
That would have been dishonorable.

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Aaaaaand we're back to sucky designs again.

The martians have a serious issue with crippling overspecialization in their mechs. It's fine to try and maximize their potential in whatever schtick they have, but when that maximization comes at the cost of being utterly helpless if the schtick fails, you done fucked up.

This one here is a wonderful example of that. It's cloaking device is great, but hardly makes it invincible. Cluster bombs and artillery would seriously ruin this thing's day, for example. In a full on battlefield with bullets flying everywhere, the question isn't whether it will get hit, but when.

This should be an assassin. It should pick off a few enemy units and withdraw. They spend hours looking for it in vain, then it comes back and kills some more. Or destroys their base while they're out firing supersmoke everywhere. The very last thing it should do is get involved in a knock down drag out brawl where its main advantage - surprise - is minimized.

It should also have some 'oh shit, time to leave' countermeasures installed. Like thrusters so it can move quickly once the enemy knows its position. Sometimes you just have to go loud, no matter how sneaky you are.

>>14213619
Get to the next episode already, please OP.