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ITT: Things that seemed to only be in the original MSG. GM's

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ITT: Things that seemed to only be in the original MSG. GM's armed with Gundam style beam rifles.
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Gundam Javelin
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In Soldiers of Sorrow, it still had a beam rifle at first. Then when the perspective changes to the side view showing the GM getting stabbed, it has a beam spray gun.
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>>14178653
Super Napalm
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>>14178663
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>>14178653
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>>14178680
Its a Spray Gun in the 0079 manga too.
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Shapeshifting Zakus
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>>14178653
That's an animation error, actually
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>>14178761
How so? They show it holding the rifle in a few different shots. Seems like it was meant to be there.
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>>14178761
>>14178798
also
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>>14178804
It's supposed to be a beam spray gun. It was something that they didn't fix in the movies, like the color of the beam saber on Char's Gelgoog.
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>>14178901
Yeah,but despite it being an error I can see why it could happen in universe.

since gm's were new at the time they were probably having a hard time trying to replicate the gundam's beam rifle economically for the early batches and just did a 1 to 1 copy but in later models they got spray guns.
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>>14178680
Seems more like a lazy attempt at a pointless retcon than an animation error in the original. This was the first appearance of the GM, yeah? Beam spray guns proabably weren't even conceptualised yet. It was supposed to look to the viewer like a cheaper Gundam (and then Amuro explains to us that it is exactly that) so having a recognisable weapon was most likely intentional.
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>>14179143
In a similar vein, it's possible that in real life those frames were drawn with the beam rifle being used before the beam spray gun was created or that animator was informed of the design
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>>14178901
>>14178761

No first run GMs had RX-78 beam rifles
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Don't GMs generate the same amount of power as the Gundam? Isn't this proper?
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>>14178747
We will get it again in Cucuruz's manga.
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>>14179358
It can do it, it's just that making full on beam rifles is expensive so the GMs just got beam spray guns instead.

Same reason it only has one beam saber. It's not that it can't use two (some commander units did!), it's just budget.
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>>14179358
They don't generate the same amount of power, but other units with slightly weaker powerplants have still been able to use beam rifles.

The basic GM design is very closely based off the Gundam, and apparently is capable of having sub-generators fitted to help boost the overall power output to be closer to the Gundam's.

http://www.ultimatemark.com/gundam/power.html
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I don't care what Tomino says, I still like the G-Fighter better than the Core Booster.
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Ral's Gouf uses a beam sword in 0079. It isn't an animation error or anything like that; you clearly see it power up like the RX-78-2's beam saber when he takes it out.
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>>14179805
>>14179834
is the spray beam suppose to fire like a shotgun or a smg? most newer animation doesn't seems to bother making the distinction.
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>>14179921
The spray gun name probably comes from the idea that it's like a cut down beam rifle, making it cheaper and easier to mass produce. It's small like a pistol and barely has a barrel, which in most beam weapons would contain "convergence rings" that focus the mega particles. Even then, not all GMs were given beam spray guns so that goes to show just how new of a technology it was and how hard it was to mass produce. It has all of the power to punch through armor like most other beam guns/rifles but lacks long range and maybe accuracy as well.

In some games I think it fires a wider, almost shotgun like effect, but I'm pretty sure it's just the devs taking artistic license (and also so not every beam gun is more or less the same).
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>>14179859
Ditto.
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>>14179988
And lastly, I don't know of any source showing the beam spray gun to have a spread or rapid fire pulse kind of shot. In the original series, it just fires a beam that looks like most other beam rifle shots.

There's this page from the Master Archive databook for the GM, but hell if I know what it says.
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>>14179988
>>14180003
Maybe they give it a spray effect because it's called the Beam Spray Gun?
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>>14180011
Where's the spray effect?
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>>14178653
>>14178680
Not just in Soldiers of Sorrow. It changes to a beam spray gun in the TV episode this footage is from. Clearly just an animation error.
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>>14178663
Do any model kits for RX-78 still include the javelin or even the gundam hammer?
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>>14180351
I think there was an online exclusive weapon expansion kit for the MG 3.0 that had both.
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>>14180003
I skimmed the entry for the BR-M-79C-1 Beam Spray Gun. Basically:
>If the original beam rifle is a long range assault rifle, the beam spray gun is a mid range machine pistol
>The beam spray gun doesn't have sensors of its own, and relies entirely on the datalink from the GM (so GMs don't come with the extra scope attachment the Gundam did?)
>The beam spray gun comes with three firing modes, the standard single shot, the shotgun like burst shot for suppression fire, and a range shot for trying to hit targets far away
>It's rate of fire is 20% higher than the beam rifle, and can fire 16 shots in burst mode

Honestly, the beam spray gun is just a better weapon than the beam rifle for everything GMs are supposed to do. Anything that's supposed to lay down really long range fire like the GM Snipers can easily pick up their own custom rifles.
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>>14180362
which was taken straight from the 2.0 (which had them in the box)
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>>14179899
Taken from Gundam Wiki. Not sure on the actual source. "Initially, the weapon's blade is made of a polymer compound that has undergone a shape memory treatment, and thus is stored inside the weapon's grip when not in use and upon heating, will expand out of the grip and took on the shape of the heat sword's blade."
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