>MC stumbles across a super machine built by a world champion.

>>14065028
Isn't it waht happens IRL?

The moral of Try is that nepotism beats any kind of fair play.

Try? More like Tryhards.

>>14065063
>Saga overkills Yuma
>Treated as a villain
>Tryhards overkill COTD
>Heroic music plays and they are treated as heroes

I hate when shows do this shit.

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The Try Burning must be the shittiest upgrade of all time. 90% of the changes were Yuuma taking off the Build Burning's armor to reveal more clear parts. Since the Try Burning is not noticeably faster or stronger than the base BB, this is apparently completely pointless besides making the suit look uglier. Gee Yuuma, maybe Sei hid those parts under the armor for a reason!

Meanwhile the stated purpose of the upgrade was to reinforce the BB's joints so it could take the strain of the phoenix attack. Because you see, even though Sei built the thing to be capable of doing anything (it's always in RG mode so it's super mobile, it can create objects out of Plavsky particles so it make its own weapons, it's a fairly basic design that would be easy to add accessories to), Sekai is so fucking stupid that the best idea he can think of is to fire so many particles at once in an attack so unnecessarily overpowered that even the BB's frame can't handle it.

It's the dumbest idea ever and it's unbelievable that Yuuma and Fumina actually decided to just go with it.

>>14065068

I have a legitimate issue with rooting for any of them.

>>14065068
Don't forget

>The triplets combine their units into a dragon
>Shocked reactions from the audience
>Mirai looks like she's going to faint
>Evil music, evil framing

TRY runs on shitty kids show logic that if the protagonists or the worthy rival (Celestial Being and sometimes Minato) team does something then it's alright but if any other opponent does it then it's EVIL because they are opponents of the week so they are EVIL because in a fight with little plastic models we have people who are GOOD and EVIL.

>>14065040
And that Yajima corp. is shit at balancing it's own game
Seriously, that limited fuel mechanic is super stupid

>>14065196
>Minato
Other than not getting Fumina's permission for his Super Fumina entry, Minato's a pretty chill dude.

But, yeah, both his fights have the BGMs make it apparent that he's the antagonist. Doubly so during the battle between his Kouki and Sekai's Musha Godmaru: Sekai was smugly taking on kids younger than him (two of them even!) while Minato's lecturing him that he doesn't even understand his gunpla and just forces it to move with his fighting style.

>>14065028
Aren't we forgetting that this show was specifically targeted towards kids. Most shows that this same target audience aren't really that high quality to be begin with.

>>14065212
Being a show for kids is no excuse for shitty writing.

Look at the first Build Fighters which was also a kids' show while also well written.

>>14065214
Eh..build fighters had good moments but it had plenty of the same shitty writing. It wasn't as bad because it had better fight choreography and better fan service but it still had plenty of the same shitty writing where the MCs win because of plot armor.

Why was Yuuma such a shit builder? Even Fumina's gunplas were much more original than his.

Season 3 never

>>14065028
When are the OVAs coming out?

>>14065197
It was there since GBF. The whole point of Sei's Absorb Shield was to let the Build Strike do things it didn't normally have enough particles to do. Try just switched that up so Lucas was absorbing particles from his team-mates instead of his enemies. The problem was that they didn't make his F91 do anything particularly impressive so it just came across as him having a mid-tier gunpla with a hole in the particle tank.
Plus the fact that Sekai could do all of his Jegan Howie bullshit without needing extra particles really made the F91 look like a shitbox in comparison.

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Fumina a best!

>>14065224
I think you mean his Crossbone Gundam X-1 Full Cloth. Julian Mackenzie had the Gundam F91 Imagine in GBF.

>>14065084
I literally didnt notice that it was upgraded even though they said it was, I assumed Yuuma had just reapplied the pain or something
Literally a worse midseason upgrade than the enhanced ZZ

>>14065216
It always felt like the MCs progressed as people though. Either it was learning to work with a rival like Mao, or Reiji learning to appreciate Seis building technique, or Aina learning to become her own person.

>>14065224
>absorbing particles from his team-mates

And yet do nothing that shows it's power.

>>14065249
I get a feeling Kamiki Burning was supposed to be the midseason upgrade, but Okawara sent the design late so they had to make do.

>>14065084
He didn't just remove the armor. He added more clear parts and rebuilt the armor to expose more of the clear parts and built in a cast off feature.

When will Honoo gets animated?
Its MC has better gunpla designs than Sei's Shit Burning and it's variants

The reason Try burning's particles are unlimited isn't because of a plavsky crystal. If that was the case Yuuma would have found it while working on it and one that small wouldn't last too long with all the stuff Sekai was doing during battles anyways.

It's stated that Sei built BB utilizing the plavsky systems from the Build strike and (Yuuma I think) states that the ones in BB are refined/perfected.

One of Build strikes Systems was the absorb system, which in addition to absorbing beams could also slowly absorb particles from the field around it. If BB/TB has a perfected version, than it has unlimited particles because when it needs more it just absorbs them from the surrounding field, making it nearly limitless as long as the field is up.

>>14065219
It doesn't come across well, but Yuuma's whole shtick is that he has pro level technique, not necessarily that he's super original or creative. Fumina's SD were creative, but Yuuma's lightning has a full inner frame and most likely superior painting technique and such.

>the best scenes were when the main characters were getting their teeth punched in
Both Mejins throwing down on Yuuma and Fumina, that edgy MMA kid styling on Sekai, and Minato up until his sword breaks were the only memorable parts of the show, save for snapfag simon.

>>14065480
The intro fight in snapfag episode was GOAT
It's refreshing to see vanilla Destiny actually moved naturally.

I think it's also the episode where there aren't too many stock footage

To this day I am still mystified as to why Shimon was so popular. His backstory with a sick family member is generic, he lacks any character flaws, despit piloting a snapbuild and only piloting for a short while he's taking on and beating experianced fighters with painted and custom builds because he's apparently just that good, and after he loses he gets maybe two lines the rest of the series and only reappears a handful of times and only when other second tier cast members are present.

His character was a whole lot of nothing but /m/ seemed to fawn all over him in Try threads. It's especially confusing as he has almost all the earmarks of a mary sue type character.

>>14065522

Yea, if any main character was beating painted and experienced custom fighters after basically falling in to things and little experience people would fall over themselves to call them a mary/gary stu.

Try was a mistake in every way conceivable apart from generating more porn from fap worthy female characters

>>14065549
Rinko is still better than any of them

>>14065224
>00 Gundams regenerate GN particles
>Build Burning shits out particles like mad

>>14065068
>Saga goes overkill enough to break limbs off the gunpla and break some parts in half
>Treated like a villian
>Sekai literally incinerates his opponents in fire or punches them with colony-destroying punches

>>14065216
It handled things a lot better. Sei working hard to upgrade the Build Strike, Reiji learning how to build Gunpla so he could understand Sei and Gunpla better and help Sei with repairs.

Sekai is given an OP suit and a ridiculous magical power only he can use and he basically uses Gunpla as martial arts training. And he learns building just to power up his suit.

>>14065618
>00 Gundams regenerate GN particles

If you mean plavsky particles, that was just something /m/ made up because of how bullshit the crossbone match was. It's never mentioned or even hinted at in the show. The particle limit thing is just wildly inconsistent and dependant on what the plot requires.

Why do all of them scream when they're hit? The only one who has an excuse is Sekai because he takes the damage his machine takes for whatever fucking retarded reason.

>>14066129
Do you not react badly when you get your cockpit slammed in a game? Don't tell me you dont.

Also you built the gunpla. Every hit is something you gotta fix, you'll at least be yelling about that.

>>14066154
I do but I don't fucking yell and react like I'm in pain or that I'm getting rattling around inside a cockpit that just took a hit.

>>14065216
>shitty writing where the MCs win because of plot armor.

It's not plot armor that's the problem. The problem is that when protagonists do something, it's presented as a good thing, but when the antagonists do the same thing it's presented as bad. The plot bends over to present Try Fighters as good guys even when they are mercilessly wrecking the other team harder than they need to, it bends over to present Celestial Being as worthy honorable rivals even as they sneer and look down on other teams. And it demonizes the opponent of the week or provides bullshit excuse for them to lose.

Also as far as plot armor goes: Sei and Reiji had to work hard for their victory. It really feels like they are outmatched at the start of the world tournament and get better only in time, and Build Knuckle ended a fight only 3-4 times. For Try Fighters, CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU is a 100% surefire win button in almost every battle, except those where Sekai's martial arts not working is a deliberate shocking twist.

>>14065028
>Fight hard for your sick family and to pork a fatty
lose
>Try to emulate a family member you respect
lose
>Use smart tactic and traps
lose
>use grunts
Lose
>Be the actual best fighter
lose
>Wanting to be the next leading figure in gunpla and keep up the ideals it is a fun sport for everyone
lose
>Use aquatic mechs
lose
>Try to prove it to a rival you have a real connection to and not just some guy you think is who beat you when you were four who has a broken hand
lose

Man try had a bad message.

>>14066207
>Use aquatic mechs
>lose
Also, put them in the OP to imply they'll be important.

>>14066207
I'm still not convinced Saga was meant to be the guy who beat Yuuma way back then.

>>14066217
It's called pandering. In this case, to females and faggots. Try is a SJW mecha anime and it sucks

The difference between Saga crushing his opponent and team try crushing their opponents is that team try didn't go out of their way to tell their opponents that they're shit and should just give up on gunpla battle. It was an attitude difference, not a battle difference.

>>14065208
>Sekai was smugly taking on kids younger than him (two of them even!)
He wasn't really smug about it, just excited. Minato was just pissy from finding out he was a substitute for Yuuma and took it out on the first available person he felt deserved it. Minato is a pretty nice guy in matters that don't involve competing with Yuuma though.

>>14065039
Try is the gritty realistic revamp of BF that we all never knew we didn't want.

>>14066217
Team FREE wasn't in the OP.

>>14066234
>try didn't go out of their way to tell their opponents that they're shit and should just give up on gunpla battle
I count forcefully making everyone suck off Sekai as bullying

>>14065522
He was an okay guy that was actually allowed to be an okay guy in a sea of shit and characters who'd be villified for daring to battle the protagonists. His episode looked okay, the Destiny's okay and despite being "only" a boxer he spent a good deal their fight beating the fuck out of Magic Krotty Kid who pretty much everyone on /m/ hates. Also boxers are cool.

>>14066160
Well it's obviously that way just to build tension in the scene. Only reasonable explanation I can give for it is maybe since they're viewing it from a cockpit view, they might naturally get into it so hard that they react as if they were actually piloting it. Kinda like those guys who play action games and unknowingly say 'ouch' when they get hit sometimes.

>>14065522
>To this day I am still mystified as to why Shimon was so popular. His backstory

Because his back story existed. Remember how in BF most of the characters had their own personal motivations?

He had something. ANYTHING for the viewer to latch on to.

>>14066248
I yell and scream when I do almost anything in a game. It helps with immersion. Maybe because I played a lot of /tg/s back in the day, and my blood is boiling hot

>>14065212
"Kid-oriented merchandised-driven shonen tournament show" is quite literally a genre, and Try is a really, really bad one.

Most shows do tend to have some issue with the MC only winning because he has the show's mascot or something, but there is generally at least a token attempt to address this. Maybe the MC loses it to theft or runs into someone with the perfect counter to it so he has to learn to do something else. Maybe his Wise Mentor points out he's being over reliant on it. Maybe he just decides it's not sporting. There have been lots of these shows, and there have been lots of solutions.

But with Try, they just don't acknowledge it at all. Everybody acts like Sekai deserves the Build Burning even though it was built for someone else and is quite literally a memento, and he never once even thinks about if it's okay to just beat up other people's hard work with something he didn't even build. The big finals for the local scene pits him up against a guy who is despairing over how he had to pilot something a friend built for him, and Sekai just has no reaction to this at all.

It's baffling.

>>14066276

Ive said it a long time ago but the Try hards don't care about Gunpla battle. They care about winning.

The Renatos predicted this future and we did nothing to stop it

>>14066263
He's nothing but backstory which itself was rather cliched. BF glossed over backgrounds more discretely and did so after they established who the characters are in the present and what made them unique. The case and point is Fellini's flashback about the Fenice.

What character traits does Shimon even have?

>>14065522
>His backstory with a sick family member is generic
Okay lets compare to the tryhards. Sekai, he trained with NotDomon and wants to fight because........Fumina likes fighting. Yuu wants to fight to prove himself as a fighter after a crushing defeat, hey that one is actually something (shame he learns the same lesson 3 times.

What I'm getting at is basic and effective is better than nothing

>he lacks any character flaws
Cause he had one episode, even then his flaw is not knowing much about gunpla and we saw how he was secretive/shy about his brother because he wanted a really fair fight.

>despit piloting a snapbuild and only piloting for a short while he's taking on and beating experianced fighters with painted and custom builds because he's apparently just that good
Guy using his brothers shitty gunpla cause he loves him vs kid who found a world class one with no attachment. One is very obviously much easier to get attached to here and can lead to interesting plot lines like him being offered a better gunpla not by his brother and the choice there in.

>>14066129
>Sekai because he takes the damage his machine takes for whatever fucking retarded reason.
Actually it is placebo which makes it even more dumb

>>14066276
And it's not like it's even a bad thing to pilot something someone else made. That was the entire gimmick for the first season, and part of the point was that Reiji eventually learned to enjoy Building as much as he did Fighting.

It's just that Sekai was a load of nothing and he desperately needed some sort of character arc. He's pretty much what you'd get if you took some random martial arts oriented Enemy of the Week and promoted him to MC without expanding his character at all.

If Sekai had shown up early on in BF as some dude who just yelled his attack names really fucking loud for his one fight and then never showed up again, people would love him.

>>14066292
>What character traits does Shimon even have?
He was only 15! He loved to play the piano!

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>>14066292
>He's nothing but backstory which itself was rather cliched

Well, Yes. See that's the thing people are taking issue with. We look at all the characters in the show and see that quite a few of them had a lot of potential for growth or to be interesting rivals. Characters like him Minato, Gyanko and Not Sleggar could have been wonderful allies and foils to the main team.

Instead they where so much fodder. We know the show it's characters where flat we're talking about potential

>>14066305
>part of the point was that Reiji eventually learned to enjoy Building as much as he did Fighting.
I really liked that episode. It was such a simple little tool to show growth and respect. I also really like that it didn't need to force the tournament into half the episode when it wasn't needed, sometimes it would just be 5 minutes at the end and sometimes a completely different fight would happen. Try felt so formulaic in comparison

BF wasn't an amazingly written show but the simple little stuff it did was more on point than anything else I've seen.

>>14066292
I think what you don't understand is people never say he is an amazing character, he has much more potential than the rest of the cast by simply having a basic motivation, backstory and by using a snapbuild as a little gimmick

>>14065522
>despit piloting a snapbuild and only piloting for a short while he's taking on and beating experianced fighters with painted and custom builds because he's apparently just that good

Way back in BF, Reiji's first reaction to Gunpla Battle was that it was kind of like martial arts. So right away, Shimon has a huge advantage over most of the people he's fighting because he's a boxer and has good reflexes and dynamic vision and crap.

Meanwhile his fight seemed to emphasize that construction quality mostly affects stability. His Destiny is poorly built, but that doesn't mean its giant cannon can't shoot things or its sword can't cut things. So sure, he can at least fight people.

Destiny vs Build Burning was actually cool about that because you could really see the difference in quality. None of the Destiny's attacks ever really damage the Build Burning, not even a point blank Palma Fiocina. Meanwhile every time the Build Burning even breathes on the Destiny, shit falls right off. Remember that bit where they both get slammed into a mountain? The Build Burning gets up almost perfectly fine besides having lost an arm to its own strength, but the Destiny's backpack is completely totaled.

>>14066296
>What I'm getting at is basic and effective is better than nothing
By generic I meant more that it's overused, a cliche. Having a sick relative be you motivation is a common and boring character motivation in fiction.

>His flaw is that he doesn't know much about gundam.
Which never comes up or has any impact on anything. Not really a flaw.

>Guy using his brothers shitty gunpla cause he loves him vs kid who found a world class one with no attachment. One is very obviously much easier to get attached to here and can lead to interesting plot lines like him being offered a better gunpla not by his brother and the choice there in.

You completely missed my point on this one. I wasn't saying he was bad for using a snapbuild, I was saying that him so easily beating supposedly better equipped and more experienced opponents and going toe to toe with BB just because he's so great despite his lack of experiance and gear is usually the type of thing this board rags on MCs for and calls them Mary Sues. But this time they loved it for some reason.

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What bugs me is how spoiled little shits the Tryhards where.

Right out the gate you have Fuumina bitching about HER CLUB. The school needs to have her memberless do nothing club that's eating away at school resources because it's hers.

She'd be a lot more empathetic if she was a member of the model club and wanted to convince others to fight. Instead she's kicking and screaming that it has to be her club. I don't know how much it costs to run a club but those GP battle stations look expensive as fuck.

Actually imagine how cool it might have been if she did convince the model club to act as sort of her pit crew. We could get a wide assortment of wacky if somewhat shallow supporting characters out of that easy. People who would argue for swords vs fuck off guns. People who could discuss elements of the shows. People who get into good spirited arguments about their favorite suits and universes

>>14066344
>But this time they loved it for some reason.

/m/ is filled with snapfags. Something like his destiny is about the skill level of what nost of them could build and use if gunpla battle was real.

>>14066344
>I meant more that it's overused, a cliche. Having a sick relative be you motivation is a common and boring character motivation in fiction.
Well then you will never enjoy shonen as it is all recycled tropes. Generic done well is not bad, BF was very generic but did it well. The point you really aren't getting is people see much more potential in him

>Which never comes up
HE WAS ONLY IN THE SHOW FOR ONE EPISODE, well in any important fashion. You really don't get that people are saying this is a good angle. Well done ignoring everything else written there as well

>is usually the type of thing this board rags on MCs for and calls them Mary Sues
No. People complain when they use magic space autism to do it. Shimons fight was awesome as it was down and dirty hand to hand combat. /m/ also loves when low tier suits are made to work against stupidly powerful ones, in this case a snapbuild is basically like being a grunt

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>>14066344
What are you even talking about? The very first thing he does once the fight with the BB really gets underway is use a cross counter because he's got experience in fist fights and knows how to use an opponent's strength against them.

Of course right after that he completely drops the whole boxer shtick to do a silly glowing fist contest, but look animating martial arts is hard.

>>14066363
Genshiken/Plastic nee-san Gundam?

>>14066363
Part of the issue is that she really didn't want to have to join the model club because the president was a creep specifically targeting her.

Also, if you've ever been a part of a club or group like that, especially one that used to be great, it kind of sucks to watch it fall apart in front of you. I don't really blame her for wanting to restore it.

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>>14066344
>But this time they loved it for some reason.

It's an issue of how often it happens. Not THAT it happens.

Let's say the show followed Shimon. Sooner rather than later he would hit a wall. There would no doubt be an episode where he couldn't win on skill alone.

Hell let's say he even really fucked up one of his bro kits by focusing so much on his goal of trying to prove his bro's kits where great to the point where he focuses on training and starts accidentally ignoring his bro.

Well then he has his wake up call. If he wants to continue he's gonna have to supe up the kits. And after learning some basic skills and some practice it becomes something he and his bro do together. It helps them reconnect on a deeper level and like Domon letting go of his anger, he lets go of his obsession and is reminded of what's important to him.

Boom. Nice character arc about two brothers connecting over gunpla. In the end he may lose but him and his bro are closer than ever.

>>14066384
>Part of the issue is that she really didn't want to have to join the model club because the president was a creep specifically targeting her.

Right, because that plot couldn't have been cut.

>>14066413
They could also cut there being a rival model club entirely. Or fumina being a character. Or it being about a kids tournament.

The point is, in the series we got it made sense that she didn't want the club to close and have to join the model club.

>>14065028
The best part is that at the end, they make it to the world championships, where everything is Build Burning level.

And they fucking lose so hard the show doesn't cover it, we just skip to the next year where they're ready to give it another shot.

Such a satisfying ending.

>>14066384
I think they needed to build why she was so attached to it. A lot of Fumina just seem under developed. Like what is her favourite series? Who knows, she doesn't even seem to know much about gundam and Yuuma always explains it.

So when it comes to the club what exactly makes that so special to her? That's she's in charge seems to be the only real reason. It isn't even like she could never battle again without it as the building club battles and there has to be out of school fighting clubs like you get other sports clubs

>>14066442
>And they fucking lose so hard the show doesn't cover it, we just skip to the next year where they're ready to give it another shot.

Such a satisfying ending.

What? The series ends at the meijin cup which was just a few weeks after the kids tournament. They never go to the world tournament before the series ends or show them a year later.

>>14066461

It is probably a badly done joke on how the powerlevels of GBWC is around a thousands tier above "U-19 Babbies", it wouldn't even surprise me that basic Plavsky Particle manipulation would now be required for one to not suck in GBWC after what happened in S1

>>14066344
Because it wasn't pilot versus pilot. It was MMA vs Boxing.

>>14066404
The right leg should be over the Destiny's shoulder and face to help isolate the joint and prevent Shimon from adjusting position and reaching over to alleviate pressure and break free, which he ended up doing.

I'm sure this was supposed to be about how Sekai knows more than just punching shit and giving a nod to MMA but it just winds up looking like a krotty guy having no idea how to grapple.

>>14066537

I think it's just a case of lazy animators

>>14066537
I thought Sekai really had no idea how to grapple though.
Wasn't that the premise of Junya and not-Sleggar's tactics?

>aquatic ms are useless outside of water
should have dropped the show there

>>14066608
>tactics
>in Try

NotSleggar's thing seemed to be "my plane has arms so I can grab yours" and Junya's was "let me assume different stances while doing pretty much the same thing you're doing". But if we go by that armbar then yeah Sekai has no idea how to grapple.

>let's make it 3v3 battles
>proceed to make no teamwork in like any of the battles

>>14066823
I noticed this aswell

And then whats jer name throws away a bunch of her synergy just so she can be stronk2guize

As much as the legs on the guns kind of threw my off i liked the combos

It is funny how fast this show has gotten EVA status in that people's hatred/bad time with show is effecting how they perceive and remember events in the show. It is actually fascinating to read through this. Don't let it die

>>14066714
Both of their tactics were throwing styles that sekai was not used to dealing with at him. Slugger was using judo against him and Edgelord was using several different styles in succession to overwhelm Sekai

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Man after watching Try just two weeks ago I honestly don't understand the bitching. if GBF season 1 was an 8/10 try would be like a 6.5 . Its worse but only barely. You guys made it seem like a constant titanic situation when really it was just paced badly and had fights that were boring guess I missed the hate train

>>14066945
Threads during airing were unbearable. Every thread after a certain point were basically just an endless loop of posts complaining about the same things over and over. Every couple of dozen posts it would circle back to the beginning and every week just seemed to add something new to the loop.

>what makes you think screaming magical powers just like super robot series with gunpla its a good idea?
> no team work at all between main characters serves no purpose to 3 v 3 duels
> a sequel to BF serves no purpose at all
> it makes no sense

>>14066945

Besides the technical problems (Sunrise clearly didn't spend enough time to plan for Try along with inexperienced staff, STOCK FOOTAGE ZUKI, etc. along with using shonen cliches badly), I would contend the main "problem" for /m/ is that they see Try was made as an attempt to appeal to casuals/kids instead of being the same as S1 I would say that Try is what /m/ doesn't like about Japanese cultural/writing/anime cliches and what have you condensed into 25 episodes

>>14066958

I bet I can fill a standard 5 x 5 bingo grid and still have enough complaints left over

>>14065249
The enhanced ZZ isn't a midseason upgrade you retard.

The ZZ is the midseason upgrade.

The enhanced ZZ doesn't even show up in the show. It only exists underneath the FA ZZ equipment but they completely revert it back to the base ZZ for the final battle after Glemmy gets killed. The only way you can even tell is the difference in backpacks between the ZZ and the FA ZZ.

>>14065028
the only good shit this spawned was the Fumina porn and nothing else, everything was garbage

So after the Build Fighters OVAs air or whatever, what are the chances we're getting a season 3? Or is Sunrise and Bandai focusing efforts on the Unicorn TV Show/cashgrab?

>>14066276
who was the fucking director?
he should get shot for doing this turd or never to get a job again

>>14067031
Did the series make money?

If so, probably

>>14067053
This guy: https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=19275

>>14067053
Shinya Watada, who wrote the worst episodes of the original Build Fighters.

Why in the fuck Sunrise thought it was a good idea to let THAT guy direct, we'll never know.

It was probably because it was the cheapest option.

>>14066276
>Try is a really, really bad one.
Not only for the reasons you pointed out, but there is no driving subplot at all. Take GBF for example. It had shit all over the place. Who is Reiji other than a prince? Why does the Chairman hate his guts and want him away? What powers the Gunpla Battles and why are they being sneaky about it? Can Reiji just hop between Earth and Arian whenever he wants?
Not only that but almost every major character has motivation as well. Mejin wants to prove to the world that Gunpla isn't just about winning. Aila is being forced to battle. Fellini wants to do his Fenice proud.

Try is literally just win the tournament. No interesting subplot, no interesting characters, nothing.

>>14066974
>a sequel to BF serves no purpose at all
Only disagreement, Build Fighters had a really good premise and the world's a great excuse to show all sorts of mashups and custom units as well as suit matchups that could never happen in a normal Gundam series. Plus sometimes it's nice to skip the heavy war and shit and just have a nice comfortable break in a world where the fights are just about people's passion for their hobby. Lower stakes, and all.

If it hadn't been shit, a sequel would have been good.

>>14067071
Don't forget that it's not even the World tournament. It's the fucking nationals. So instead of getting eccentric foreigners, we get a bunch of shitty sameface japanese people.

How could they fuck up the sequel to a decent show so badly?Please tell me.Build Fighters was actually pleasant to watch.Not complex,but fun and the characters were likeable,but this is literal shit.

>>14067068

>Worst episodes of the original BF

Which one was it? MUH TALLGOOSE IS KILL or Watch the kids job to Seiji Part 1 or both?

>>14067077
>mashups and custom units as well as suit matchups that could never happen in a normal Gundam series.
This irritated me the most about Try. The slightly modded suits went away and OC suits replaced them. Shit like the Fenice and Sengoku Astray are cool as fuck because it takes an already established unit and modifies it. Then they can pit them against other units from different series.

Then we got all these suits built from scratch that nobody recognizes or even really likes. Tryon-3 and the Transient were the only good units from Try in my opinion. Wing Zero Honoo as well.

>>14067086
bandai wanted money

>>14065216
What I liked about GBF was the fact that the protag was someone who seemed to realistically be a gunpla fan.He was this meek little fuck with no friends to speak of who stayed in,watched Gundam and assembled Gunpla.I could easily relate with Sei.Sekai seemed like a fucking Gary Stu.He even had a "hurr durr meaningful name".

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>>14067104
Plus Sei was cute while Sekai was a fag.

>>14067116

just like his mom (Y)

>>14067116

>MUH SUBMISSIVE (enough) GUNOTA SHOTAS

Then again, Komatsu's shota voice can be boner inducing, does anyone have the Build Strike Sei in the first ED?

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>>14067104
>>14067116
>We will never get a Gundam Build Fighters series about how Sei's dad wooed Rinko and became a Gunpla superstar

>>14067116
I just can`t imagine any of the protags in GBFT realistically being into Gunpla.They all seem like socially people who wouldn`t really BE into Gunpla,but would rather ride the hobby for social validation,because it was in.I just find it impossible to relate with any of the mains of GBFT.I can`t believe a hot high-school girl would genuinely be into Gunpla.

>>14067087
Watada directed 2, 8, 17 and 23, so it's probably some of those.

>>14067080
Between this and IBO, staffers sure have problems with pacing things lately. What's next, a UC Gundam manga that only ends at the Battle of Odessa?

>>14067138
What about glasses guy?

>>14067144

Since 2 was the introduction to Yuuki Tatsuya and 23 was Gunpla Eve aka Spot the Reference the Episode, I'll just say 8 and 17 then

>>14067145
He still was quite popular.He sort of was like Sei,only done badly.I hated how he didn`t feel like a social outcast,or even into the actual non-modeling aspect of Gunpla.

>>14067138
Well to be fair, in their world gunpla is popular enough to be a famous international sport/hobby. It's not some niche otaku hobby like in real life.

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>>14067128
>>14067116

>>14067157
Even if the models are,do you think the shows would catch on with every single normie?No.And the protags of GBFT seem like normies.Sei seemed to like Gunpla because he related them to the shows.

>>14066945
Remember all those charming moments in GBF like when Fellini almost got a girl by showing her a gunpla, or when Mao was paying his way through town with his builds, or when Sei geeks out?
Approximately zero of that got into Try.

>>14067138
I believe Fumina and Yuu, just not Sekai.

Honestly, if I was going to rewrite the show, I'd cut Yuuma as a protagonist and make it 2v2. I'd rewrite Sekai into someone who's only really a fan of the weird shows like G and SD that aren't like normal Gundam shows, pairing him with Fumina who goes for stuffy traditionalist builds like the Cardigan, having them both build towards a more flexible medium over time. Give the Build Burning an upgrade that gives it some actual weapons as he gets to know more about the rest of Gundam, while Fumina upgrades to the Star Winning as she learns to loosen up and be creative.

>>14067091
BB: Okay, it's the lead suit. Whatever.
Lightning: Okay, so the Re-GZ is a Gundam now? All the parts look different so I don't see how it's based on the Re-Gz. Might as well be a scratchbuild.
Cardigan: I'd power my powered powers in Fumina's Powered Powereders. Could have used even more dakka but still a cool design.
Beargguy Family and Petit: "help we cannot stop making money" -bandai
R-Gyagya: Sick as hell, all it needed to add were gatlings and shields to make a great design.
Ez-SR: Cool concept, has shit everywhere and retard feet. Kind of crappy.
Mega-Shiki: Again, cool concept but it's a cross between a Hyaku Shiki and a Delta Plus that fell into ugly paint. None of the parts are the same as the base suit's again.
Red Warrior: Why/10
Potato: 00 donutsteel pt 1
Transient: 00 donutsteel pt 2
Crossbone: "Well we had to release it at some point, so it might as well be here", no effort
The Edge: What the hell was it designed from? It has no basis in Gunpla
DARK BB: I was fun but ultimately a shit. Hair was great, at least. No basis in actual gunpla because Cathedral was already an original.
Tryon 3: Absolutely based and still has some parts based on the ZZ.
Dom R35 - Super Fumina: Shit. Even Lightning Zeta barely looks like it's based off the Zeta.

I guess the design team thought that the Build Mk II was their best idea ever and decided to imitate it by changing everything about the designs instead of working around them.

>>14067180
Honestly I don't see what's special about that at all. Its nothing new. Try had its own "charming" moments like slugger driving around with edge lord the only difference is that it didn't appeal to you because you don't like the characters(which is fine BTW)

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>>14067240
>that
>not that one girl getting her wig Bright slapped off.

>>14067213
>Denial Gundam
Junya says he built it himself, and it turns out it was built by the second Meijin, barring the obvious mods.

JUNYA A SHIT. A LYING SHIIIIIIT.

>>14066945
Because BF was a huge surprise to people in how good it was, we had a giant picture of everyone posing gunpla. People liked the show a lot more than you and it did all these clichéd things well while being a big hurrah for gundam

Try fails in nearly every respect, it's a show you can take most aspects of and just see how it was handled awfully especially in comparison to BF. Like why was Ral back? His proper VA was in hospital, he had no real connection to these new kids, he just sort of appears out of no where, you have a lot of other characters to explain stuff and Master Asia would be way more appropriate for this show. See how easy that was? You just aren't a very discerning person, and yeah /m/ can be overly sometimes but that ain't a bad thing really cause it means you get a load out of shows like the original BF that realy fucking hit it right.

Try is like an infinite scab of problems, you can constantly pick at it with the mild pain and process is satisfying

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>>14067244
Did she died?

>>14067205
You could make Sekai from American who's only exposure to gundam was his dad's old vhs tapes of wing and g

>>14067213
>The Edge: What the hell was it designed from? It has no basis in Gunpla
Ignoring the color scheme, it was like every gimmick of the non-UC gundam put together under the influence of the Devil Gundam like the extendable arms of Dragon/Shenlong, the cover/coat of Master/Deathscythe, etc. Too bad, they didn't have this kind of silly backstory.

>>14066977
>(Sunrise clearly didn't spend enough time to plan for Try along with inexperienced staff, STOCK FOOTAGE ZUKI, etc. along with using shonen cliches badly),

It's problem was that they wanted to cash in on the series popularity before it had a chance to grow cold and irrelevant in the wake of newer series. So they rushed it out with only 6 months production time (Instead of the standard 2 years) which really hurt it all around and to make matters worse the director was already working on another project and couldn't return in time to direct TRY so we got one of the anime worlds most generic and dull directors instead (Shinya Watada).

>>14067068
He was cheap and available. The only other thing besides TRY he has ever been the lead series director on was the AGE movie. Other than that he's mostly directed random episodes of other series and occasionally been a Unit director.

>>14067213
>Okay, so the Re-GZ is a Gundam now?

Re-GZ
(Re)fined (G)undam (Z)eta

>>14065212
G Gundam was also a show for kids.

>>14066457

The tournament wasn't even school based it was age based. She just needed a couple guys to form a team with and she could have entered just like that.

Train at hobby shops.

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It needed more best girl.

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>>14067255

She got the D

also fuck you all she was cute and best girl.

>>14068097
>the scene where she smashes that dude with her shields

>>14068090

>Every team is from a school/academy/what have you
>Not school based

Having an age restriction is one thing, but the whole thing is basiclly a school championship of sorts. The only thing that doesn't seem right is mixing middle school with high school, then again the 7th GBWC proved that even young'ins can hold their own against older competitors if you are good enough

>>14068107
>the scene where she jobs miserably

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>>14068141
The only time I cared for a character in Try really.

>>14068146
Oh jesus I can hear her breathing
I'm going to masturbate to this gif
Thanks so much anon

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>That episode where their communications where jammed.
>when they where standing like 20 feet away from each other

>>14068108
There was a U13 tournament in addition to the U19 one. The one triplet mentions having entered it twice previously.

>>14068161
Stuff like that happens a couple of times. The plavsky booths seem to be able to block sound when needed to make that sort of jamming tactic viable

Whena re the damn OVAs going to come out?

>>14066932
>Judo
Sleggar's entire thing was his plane having arms so it could grab other arms, bro. It really did not do anything past that and his talk about countering Sekai's magical karate ended up being entirely talk.

>different styles in succession
Sure we could call it that because he does different poses, but in the end it's just more generic kickpunching that looks pretty much entirely like what Sekai has spent all series doing, with some parts of boxer kid who Sekai beat and ocassional lip service about how he's trained other things, as demonstrated by this one move that suddenly Sekai can't do anything about. Which leads me to believe Sekai really is just shit at martial arts.

>>14066904
Well that's what happens when there becomes zero reason to pay attention to anything but the fights. And then the fights themselves become boring as shit.

>>14067144
>>14067087
>>14067068
Watada storyboarded 8 & 17 only. Also I don't think episode director has that much reign over the show.

I mean, 2nd episode actually has a cool music direction.

>>14068004
>They rushed it out with only 6 months production time instead of the usual 2 years
And they did the same with IBO. I guess it's time for Gundam to finally die.

>>14070371
Wasn't IBO actually in production limbo for like 4 years due to the availability of the key staff members being tied up in other commitments?

>>14070382
That's just not possible because that would imply they planned IBO during AGE's pre-production.

>>14070417
And?

>>14070371
Only if UC completely stops being profitable or is too much of a money sink to keep afloat with OVAs.

>>14070439
There should be a word about it back then. Even G-Reco was announced in 2012.

>>14070439
>>14070417
And by that I mean that in the planning stages means that it's not necessarily even assigned to a studio yet. Just that they're planning it out and possibly in ibo's case it was shelved when they ran into staffing issues.

And for the record, I have no source on this, I just remember it being brought up several times in threads early in the series that its been planned for years but stuck due to okada and other projects taking precedence.

>>14070481
They don't announce everything they are planning. Only when they are firmly commited to it do they announce it. We knew about G reco for years but it wasn't officially anounced to be actually getting something animated until 2012, at which point they were commited to it. Before that it was just "Tomino's mysterious personal project".

>>14065212
Those kinds of shows should have good moral lessons then, like hard work and respect.

Not just gundam, but the majority of anime series spend 1-2 years in production (production does not just mean "animating". It's everytging from casting, to scripting, to animating, everything that means actively making the series) and can be planned for years even before that.

Official announcents are typically made in the last 8-4 months of production.

There is no source on ibo being planned since AGE that I know of, but it is highly doubtful that it has only been planned or in production for 6 months. Try was just a weird case where BF outsold their expectations and they wanted to rush out another asap.

>>14070540
Still, I'm sure IBO was animated on tight schedule. No big name anime in 2015 looks like stickman anymore.

>>14070555
I wouldn't doubt it either. Sunrise has been exceptionally busy even with their multiple studios.

>>14070525
>hard work and respect
Reiji discovers how hard Sei is working on the gunpla he's been using all this time when he himself builds one and has new-found respect towards it.

Sekai doesn't seem to strike me like that. There's nothing wrong with the "Gunpla is just like martial arts that brings through competition". Other than him trying to rebuild Burning with the hellp of Shia (kinda overshadowed that it turned into comic bout of jealous by Fumina), he doesn't seem to have more concern about gunpla. Heck, he didn't even question why he gets injured in playing it nor he even contemplated about it (If I get hurt whenever Burning is attacked, what does that mean for the kids that I've beaten with my Godmaru in G-Muse?).

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>>14067015
There is a surprising amount of BF scat porn.

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>>14067091
>Tryon-3 and the Transient were the only good units from Try in my opinion

At least the soundtrack was pretty neat.

>>14071755
>basically just the Hyaku Shiki
>meh colors
>overly large tacked on backpack
>memeswords

>>14072664
It would have looked fine if it was just the Mega Rider Cannon thing but the proportions and feet are so out of whack that it puts me off. Colors could have used a bit of work but not bad as they are.

In my opinion, of course.

>>14072685
Actually I'm just being contrarian. I like the Shiki enough that I can dig the Mega but the issues I presented still bother me. The backpack's too large and while I get the reference it still feels slapped on, the colors are boring, it isn't particularly unique and beams folded 10000 times so they cut other beams because "particle manipulation" annoy me.

>>14072709
Agreed on all but the backpack, just to a slightly lesser extent. It's better than Generic 00 MS #24 though, so I'm not too unhappy. I might even buy the model one of these days and paint it red.

>>14072734
>It's better than Generic 00 MS #24 though,
This. I'm a huge 00 fag but it was too fucking much. The vast majority of no-namers were using 00 suits on top of the major rivals having two suits based off 00.

I always liked how in the final shot of the show, Sekai, Fumina, and Yuuma are all flying towards this shining star, with the clear implication that it's their future.

And then Sekai blows it up.

The staff knew.

>>14067091
>Muh obligatory 00 suit #85
>good
Surprisingly, the gunpla I liked the most weren't gundams.
GM Cardigan and R-gyagya were faar more interesting to me than anything else on the show, plus they looked cool as hell.

>>14072736
The only one I remember is Salty Kyrios.

>>14071755
>Tfw Transient didn't have Tekkaman's colour scheme
>The Ez-8s didn't have Dragonar colour schemes

Why? The Abigorbine looked awesome, why would you forego the colours?

>>14065028
It's a dumb kid's show. Looking back, I used to enjoy Transformers Cybertron of all things lol
I'm not denying it was total garbage btw, I'm just saying it didn't need to be good.

>>14071722
Why

>>14073542
Because Try, ironically enough, didn't even try.

>>14073542
Those are all main character color schemes and would have clashed with standard color coding. Keep up anon. Though the EZ-8s could've probably looked okay with Falguen colors, I don't think painting the Transient as Tekkaman Evil would've done it any favors, not to mention they already had Saga for tryhard.