/krg/ - Kamen Rider General #1166 - Post-Rider Career Trajectories

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ゆるさん!

>>13981688
Second for Kiriko a shit

>>13981699
Chase is Zyuoh Panda???

>>13981700
This. There's always something wrong with her face in her pictures

The villain/creature designs for next year's Rider are now done by the last porn artist you jacked/jilled it to.

>>13981714
She just doesn't know how to smile without looking like she's about to burst into tears. She really needs to work on it.

>>13981714
>>13981721
easy on her, rumor has it she was abused as a child. Her acting and gravure career was the one to save her from further abuse

>>13981721
That's what makes her so lovely.

>>13981718
>Palco Nagashima

Hoo baby

>>13981718
>Naruco Hanaharu

Too cute to Rider Kick to death.

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Was Drake's helmet always this weird looking from the side?

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>>13981759
Yes, and I love it.

Akiko was terrible when Terui is not around.

>>13981991
She's terrible even when Terui is around.

>>13981991
>>13982027
Her and Shunpei need to be thrown into the trash, lit on fire, and pushed down a hill.

>>13982027
>>13982050
it's that voice

honestly she'd be more tolerable if she lowered her pitch and volume

>>13982050
Put Akari, Yurusen, Kiriko, Renge and Mana in there too

>>13982058
Gonna need a dumpster pham

>>13982058
>Yurusen

anon we're going to have a problem

>>13982067
You're right, I forgot that burning plastic gives off carcinogens.

Everyone, make sure to wear protection. You don't want to get cancer from bad puppets.

>>13982058
But I want to fuck Mana.

What would happen if an Imagin possessed Ghost?

>>13982078
You can have a Naomi instead

>only just realized kouta's visor is an orange slice
I'm dumb.

>>13982079
That wouldn't work. Imagin need a physical body

>>13982124
You can touch Takeru, though.

>>13982138
Doesn't mean he's physical

Who would win in a fight between a rider with no legs vs. a rider with no arms?

>>13982242
No arms. Rider Kick is nowadays the most powerful move in a Rider's arsenal.

>>13982088
If that anon doesn't want to, I'll take her.

>>13982058
But Yurusen is the best girl in years.

I don't know if Yurusen is a separate creature or something controlled by the sage like Monokuma from Danganronpa.

>>13982248
>>13982248
But by law of climax, you can only rider kick at the end and I doubt he'd be able to block any other blows effectively.

We do have evidence of a rider who couldn't walk in Accel Boost form.

Also don't forget that rider weapon finishers are just as effective even if they aren't the most climatic.

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>>13982257

>>13982248
It depend on weapon actually. If no leg get one those jet pack with gun in Faiz then no arm is probably fucked.

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Post your last toy order.

>>13981907
>not posting the Liad Bar Shilton cosplay

>>13982349
>tfw I want the CSM Hyper Zecter, but can't justify the 8-9k yen price

Is there any hope for non-belt CSM to go down in price later on?

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>>13981718
>Volvox
Series of the year all years.

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>>13982349
I don't buy stuff that often.

>>13982355
CSM always gets more expensive, unless they do an almost unimaginable second run.

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>>13982349

>>13982373
Shit. Guess it's now or never, huh?

And to think it could have been posted here
>>13981375
Though it was posted in the release thread for the episode 3 and 4 as well

Holy fuck why is Ghost so amazing bros

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>the pounding synth in psyga's theme

Is Decade the Rider King of Unused Abilities?

He never transformed into Den-O Rod or Wing Form despite having the cards for them. He didn't use the bulk of his KamenRides' abilities. He only used Dimension Slash exactly once. He never used KamenRide: Ultimate. In all his combined appearances, he's only shown a small fraction of what he's theoretically supposed to be capable of.

>>13982457
It's mainly because his show ended so early at a 30-ish cap. Most of the fights in the show are trivial (like using Kuuga to counter Kiva's forms, or Agito against Den-O) so there isn't complete space to do everything he could have.

>>13982460
It's really too bad. Very rarely, he showed some clever usage of his abilities, like using Kuuga Pegasus Form and AttackRide: Illusion to counter Clock Up.

>>13982457
The issue with Den-O is that generally the Rider appearing in any way seeemed to count as an "use" of a form by Decade, so Diend summoning him, or him making an appearance with a spoken role in the movie meant no Decade transforming into him.

>>13982457
He can use every abilities ever, anon. You can't cram it all up into 1 series.

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Wow..

>>13982499
>Literally Boost
They made this up as they went along, right?

>>13982501
We knew he'd be getting a new form in the third quarter ever since the 2nd quarter toyguide, and we've had a sillhouette for a while too. The only thing new is that he's using a copy of Boost's glass sword thing.

>>13982501
>Specter's Boost form.
>Will be on level with Grateful.
>Meaning Specter's final form will be a Ganma form.
>Lord Baron 2.0

>>13982499
All of Ghosts weapons and toys feel like completely random and unrelated concepts that they lazily threw together with no regard for consistency or visual design.

>>13982499

God damn it John Toei, you really don't know what to do with Specter anymore.

>>13982506
It's like W and Fourze all over again.

>>13982499
>We won't get Musashi with double Sunglassher

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>>13982514
At least W's stuff didn't look like ass.

Captain Ghost is the most fucking bizarre thing I've seen in ages.

>>13982506
It's funny how Toei somehow manages to give preferential treatment to KR over Sentai, yet treat it worse at the same time.

>>13982517
>No Pirate related Soul that unlocked Captain Ghost for Ghost.

>>13982516
Why would you want Musashi? It's the worst eyecon that gets top billing for being generic Japanese sword form.

>>13982520
To be fair, the toys are on Bandai.

>>13982517
>bizarre
>Ghost theme
It quite alright.

>>13982499
>Same color scheme as Chaser

Really fucking gay, Bandai. Ghost was a mistake.

>>13982499
His face looks kind of weird but this is basically boost. What the fuck toei.

I was kind of hoping that Takeru's final upgrade would be a buffed version of his own sou. It's kind of disheartening that his own power is incredibly weak and his father's soul is significantly more powerful than him.

>>13982522
Really, just what the fuck were they thinking.

>Toy concept involved ghost ships, eyeballs, and Parkas based on legendary souls
>"lel let's make a random monk story or some shit"

Ghost has been nothing but a clusterfuck compared to Drive.

>>13982543
>Drive
>Toy based on car
>Revolving around brain wash, freezing the world and evolution or some shit
Same shit could said about Gaim, Fourze and alot more series.

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>>13982499
They sure make good use of the "8"

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>>13982499

I gotta say, I like those shades and Deep Specter's design. But did they really need to repaint the Sunglasslasher? The only good thing to come from that is Specter being able to use Sword Forms.

>>13982557
>Same shit could said about Gaim.
You picked a bad example there, buddy.

>>13982499
If I was drunk, i'd think it was a bikini sword.

>>13982499
Deep Specter looks really nice. His weapon on the other hand.

>>13982565
A result of not investing money on the merchandise for the next rider due to the failure of the last one

>>13982557
It's all about execution when it comes to matching two unlikely themes to make them into great ideas.

Drive basically tries to make Knightrider out of the toy-car concept
Gaim had to switch between Sengoku drama and references to the forbidden fruit to work with the fruit-armor, while dance-battles/coming-of-age teenagers was initially meant to work with the lockseed aspect.
Fourze had friendship which worked quite well with the Space theme in many unique ways. Probably the best compatibility.

Ghost is just fucking everywhere though. The toys are random, the selection of legendary souls they chose are random, and a lot of the story is a fucking derivative of past rider works. It's a bore in the worst sense.

>>13982573
Maybe "Grateful" will be Ghost's perma-upgrade. All the Boost props will be repainted and given to Specter for the rest of the show...something like Dead Heat Mach.

Ghost's best point so far is that the plot's pacing is rocketing along and it's unpredictable.

Unfortunately it's not well-written.

Eyes, heroes and ghost hoodies, and we get a sword gun wearing sunglasses.
I guess it's somewhat related, just like that trailer bazooka for Drive and DJ gun for Gaim.

>>13982596
Unfortunately, the toy itself for the Sunglasseslashers is garbage-as-fuck, and we are not getting any known new weapons throughout the show.

>>13982573
Exactly my feelings. I like the form but I would have prefered a unique weapon.

>>13982598

I don't buy stuff so I don't know those things.
Do you guys play with them or just collect?

>>13982605
I agree, he had a shotgun and scythe for the base forms, I like those and they were different from Ghost weapons.
Besides that sword fits Boost burning and shining bright theme more.

>>13982499
For now Deep Specter looks meh to me, going to wait for magazine scans to judge it fully.

What kind of weapon should Deep Specter have anyway?

>>13982487
Gokai did

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>>13982582
At the rate it's going it might actually get interesting in 10 episodes...

Unfortunately that'll mean it has taken 30 episodes of the show to get interesting.

I kinda disagree with the "rocketing pace" anyhoo. The first 10 episodes of the show nothing happens, we don't know anything about the villains motivation for the show and there's no character developement. Only lately have we been starting to see the villain faction get fleshed out and Takeru is becoming a bit more steadfast.

I just wish he wasn't such a boring sadsack. Even Haruto was more fun... I'm not saying everyone has to be a goofball but it's so annoying that both riders are so damn serious all the time, lighten up, it's a show with a kabuki monk and a flying ghost handpuppet!

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>we will never see that baller-as-fuck Tutankhamun Omega Drive again

>>13982499
I'd like to see a proper shot of the suit before I make my judgement. Not sure if white was the best choice they could have gone with though.

What the hell is ganma trying to do?
Harvest souls and heroic eyecons or change the earth?

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>>13982635
He still wants to create a utopia where no one dies.

Yes, it's HIM.

>>13982542
Ore could become Mugen, it's possible since they're getting the "combine all the forms" nonsense out of the way with Grateful.

>>13982622
Gokai did because they were the only ones using past Rider powers in their show most of the time. Decade didn't use Urataros' form, for example, but Urataros himself appeared and transformed during Decade.

>>13982638
Its pretty unlikely to have permanent upgrade for main Rider.

They usually keep the main form eventhough it get totally outclassed.

>>13982618
More guns.

>>13982637
Kusaka could have stopped him, but /krg/ shoved him away. Where is our hero when we most need him?

>>13982618
Should just go bare fist or claws.

Though at least the Sunglassher still make sense.
Didn't Makoto learn kendo along with Takeru when they were kids?

>>13982569
Don't act like fucking dance-team Pokemon lock-themed fruit samurai fighting an alien forest made any fucking sense as a base concept.

>>13982642
I meant that the Ore Eyecon could change back and forth. Like, Takeru has to hold it and it glows and changes or something. Obviously they won't get rid of his base state.

>>13982649
Would like it better if he learned something cool in ganma land.
And gets that ganma weapon.

>>13982642
>What is Emperor form?

>>13982575

Wouldn't that just lead to losing more money?

>>13982650

The lockseeds tie directly into a forest as the big threat though. And the "Pokemon" are summoned by the lockseed and created by animals and people eating the Helheim fruits.

The ties of Helheim to mythology and legends about ancient fruits since ancient ages tie into the whole historical warrior visual motif of the Riders.

Only the dance stuff is unrelated, but it was there mostly as set up for the teen groups, since they couldn't get street gangs approved.

>>13982565
>>13982575
Usually secondary Riders don't even get two upgrades though. I'd say this is just a result of attempting to push that extra upgrade without adding to the budget.

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>>13982499

>Specter's transient design had heart monitor lines to it
>Deep takes it further and turns Specter into the epitome of edge
>"Sharp sharp Ghost"
Cool I guess?

>>13982684
Eye of Sauron????

>>13982499
>>13982684
>Dat Eyecon
>Dat Form

When are we gonna get second rider that's not an edgelord?

Just watched Climax Deka. It was something all right, and thankfully barely any Kiva. I'm not quite sure how to feel about the fact that the best idea they had for loli Hana was to give her a rocket launcher, though.

>>13982688
Mayonnaise guy?

>>13982688

Go wasn't an edgelord. I think.

>>13982499
>>13982684

If this is Specter's Boost what would his Ungrateful and Negative be?

>>13982642
>Looks at how little Ore was used since Boost's debut

>>13982698

That's just a bit of father and son bonding.

>>13982642
What was the deal with Kiva? Did they just give up on toy sales?

>>13982701
The suit was too unbalanced and was a mess to wear. Also Inoue.

>>13982700
That reminds me, have Takeru talked to Ryu post Boost eyecon?

>>13982701

The Kiva suit gave the suit actor massive back problems. Emperor fixed that.

>>13982704

No.

>>13982499

Let me guess, instead of saying "It's so bright" it says "It's so dark"?

>>13982705
That seems kind of strange, I wonder what really happened to Ryu.
Is he a parka ghost, chilling in the eyecon like the rest of the heroic eyecons or something else?

>>13982693
Gou was a brooding, edgy faggot which to be a shit head too.

>>13982684
Did I read somewhere that the Eyecon Driver can clip to the side of the Ghost belt or something?

>>13982713

That would be interesting, and a good addition to Infinity.

>>13982707
>Because I trust X
>I don't trust anyone
>My life is burning bright
>My life is like a black hole, black and suck
Can we get more egdy please?

>>13982715
I feel that would at least make both toys relevant, like Mugen is Decade Complete and the Eyecon Driver allows Ghost to do finishers Decadriver style.

>>13982718

That being said, we still don't know the requirements for the Eyecon Driver. Like, does Takeru need to absorb the eyecons into the driver Type Tridoron style?

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>the Boss ran away

fucking Brain

>>13982726
The Mugen Eyecon itself is likely it's own thing, and separate from the other Hero Eyecons.
It will likely just be a Evolved form of Ghost himself, like how Boost was the progression of Ore.

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>>13982499

Green Necro Slasher and Lich Eyecon when?

>>13982637
>filename

You fucking didn't

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>>13981688
CUTE

>>13982736

I'm talking about Grateful, not Infinite.

>>13982637
Wait:
Wizard (5 rings)
Faiz: 555
X: 5th Kamen Rider

55555

Five 5's

NUMBER THEORY CONFIRMED

>>13982742

>Wizard (5 rings)
Five digits. If you're gonna shit post then do it right.

>>13982742
And if you count the original Kamen Rider as two shows (first half being Ichimonji second half being Hongo) then each are from the fourth Rider shows of their respective eras.

>>13982499

Deep Tutankhamen, Deep Nobunaga and Deep Houdini when?

>>13982750
I'm curious to see how Specter will fair since Grateful will be taking his Eyecons, and Deep doesn't appear until April.

>>13982750
Possibly never, because they are part of Grateful form.

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>>13982746
Decade is best Rider.

>>13982753
>>13982754

But we don't know if Grateful will do that.

So is nobody gonna talk about how Deep Specter has a partially white undersuit?

Aran is gonna be his Boost, calling it now

>>13982758
I just want another Decade series with Riku Sanjo as head writer.

>>13982760

I doubt it.

>>13982758
What a nerd.

>>13982760
That'd completely remove Necrom around episode 30 or so, I really don't see that happening.

>>13982766
REMOVE NECROM

>>13982772

But he hasn't redeemed himself yet!
If that is true then would Grimm and Sanzo be Makoto's Ryouma and Goemon?

>>13981718
>Shunpei Nakata

Well, he has experience drawing monsters, so this might not be bad!

>>13982729
Now that I have a galaxy where do I download this

>>13982729
>my relationship folder got whipped so I don't have "are you frustrated"

>>13981718
>InCase

Can monsters be cute traps?

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What went wrong?

>>13982788

Mitchy.

>>13982788
The last 7 or so episodes barring ep 43. Everything up until that point was largely a fun ride.

>>13982788
It was so good that it ruined all other Kamen Rider series for everyone forever.

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>>13982793
>gaim babies

>>13982795
that anon was clearly being sarcastic

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>>13982788
Everything after Redue's death basically

>>13982797
We need more female kaijin that are as vicious as her. Medic was kind of following in her footsteps but he was redeemed near the end

>>13982788
They did an awful job balancing upgrades

>>13982805
I wonder how Alia is gonna turn out.
Maybe she will change after Adonis assassination.

>>13982811
She is probably the mastermind and adel is a red herring.

>>13982805

>but he was redeemed near the end
>he

>>13982788
Sagara got away with everything in the end and Kouta acted like it was nothing. I wouldn't be bothered if Kouta had attempted to kill him to stop similar events from happening elsewhere and it proved useless, but he just did nothing.

"Bu-but he's a force of nature!" Yeah, humans do a pretty good job burning down entire forests nowadays.

>>13982814
has no style

>>13982813
But she taken care of Makoto and Kanon for 10 years!

>>13982815
Forests aren't Lavos with space-time warping powers, anon. They're just a bunch of trees that stand there.

>>13982818
HE HAS NO GRACE
TH-TH-THIS ROIDMUDE HAS A FUNNY FACE

Is destroying Helheim even a viable move?

>>13982825
No. It's basically a god.

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>>13982499
I'm liking the edgy purple, pink, and white color Deep Specter has. Very Glam Rock. But fuck, did we really 3 swordguns this year, to of which being the same boring shit. I'll let it slide if the Deep Slasher could read more than one eyecon, but fucking doubt they put any effort into this one.

>>13982827
It's a fruity mess

>>13982746
Inoue deserved better than the show he got

>>13981718
>Zelolee

Every monster is going to be big and beefy.

>>13982831
Triceratops and Pteranodon should have changed places. That cgi headwing stuff looked ridiculous.

>>13982840
Yeah but you can't make a song out of ToPuTyra as easily.

Does it bother anyone that ancient and alien things somehow adjust themselves into having modern earth characteristics on their own?

>>13982851
No because I'm not autistic.

>>13982788
There was no Jinba Melon and Kota hoarded everything at least share some of them good lockseeds with the rest of the crew

>>13982848
>ToPuTyra
>ToPu Tyra
>Top Tyra
There was potential there.

>>13982851
The ones who do that are typically portrayed as hyper intelligent and want to blend in, so no

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>>13982840
I really like the head piece it gives OOO though. It's not your typical Dino Jaw, you know.

>>13982856
America's Next Top Model hosted ny Tyra Banks?

Maybe there would be a Rider MC who is aware that he's a character in a fictional universe and things like riders, monsters, suits, jingles and stuff are there because it's what people wants to watch.

And he could hear the sound track and knows of stuff like openings and next episode previews.

>>13982856
Something Something TopGaler?

>>13982499
Will we ever get simple weapons again?
You know, no buttons, no switches, no levers, no attaching things, no scanning things, no inserting various things in various orifices.
Just straightforward choppy or shooty weapons.

>>13982881
hahahaahaha
HAHAHAHAHA
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
no

>>13982788
I loved the whole ride, the only thing I guess I could complain about are how the upgrades were handled.

>>13982881
No. Toku is all about modular toys now. Even Ultraman started dipping into that shit.

>>13982881
>Banana and Mango Arms
>Budou and Kiwi Arms
>and all the other lockseed based forms

>>13982895
I wonder what Makoto's plot in the movie is

>>13982902
Just standing there looking secondary, probably.

>>13982902
He's there as a meat shield for Rider 1 that's about it.

>>13982902
>What are you doing Takeru?
>I'm helping Hongo with his shit
>okay i can join?

>>13982914
>Takeru, Senpai, I'll hold them back. You guys charge ahead.
>Wow, Specter, you're acting just as ex-spectered.

>>13982913
>>13982914
>>13982917
So Ghost episode 14? Okay, I guess that's all I could hope for from Inoue.

>>13982881
>What is Gaim
A sword, a spear, a gun and a shield. A fucking shield.

>>13982924
Stratch that, 13's a better example.

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What does /krg/ think of Black? I just finished it last night and while I think the first half was a bit spotty in quality, the show really picks up with the introduction of Birugenia and later Shadow Moon. Great music as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XKmmc36t6s

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>>13982932
>thirty years later
>still looks fucking ace
10/10 design

>>13982902
Bad guys kidnap Kanon, turn her into eyecon and brainwash Makoto to fight against Takeru.

what are the effects of the "kamen rider curse"?

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>still no rip

>>13982499
Okay, I'm actually mad about this

>>13982892
>>13982895
>>13982906
I still hate the new suit. They ruined a simple and practical design by making it looks like something from The First (also written by Inoue so it's no surprise).

This movie is going to be terrible.

>>13982627
More like we will never see Tut again because Specter keeps using Nobunaga

>>13982996
I actually love the design and the idea of the movie.

I just hope Great Leader appears.

>>13982627
Reminded me of the way MagnaAngemon wrecked the shit out of Piedmon

>>13982881
When I think about it, the guns in Drive wer alright.

Yeah you could slot in a shift car, but attaching those into the guns were seamless. Just put the car in, take the car out. It feels like loading ammo which feels natural. Don't even need to flip the cars intho lever mode. Probably why out of my DX collection I play with those guns the most.

>>13983012
>Liking Inoue
>Liking Spring movies
You must be new

>>13982981
Do you wanna pay a thousand bucks for it?

So I just saw this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCiSwGkXeRQ

Well. That's kind of cool compared to the last two games.

>>13982996
A) The First has great suits
B) Inoue has written shows with some of the best rider suits in history, like Faiz and Kiva
C) the writer has exactly 0 influence on how the suits look, that's 100% a marketing decision

Come on, I dislike Inoue as much as the next guy, but blaming him for suit designs is straight retarded.

>>13982996
>practical
Now this is shitposting. Rider 1's design is iconic but not at all practical. It's the kind of outfit you'd expect the hero to throw on as a gag one episode and never be seen in again.

>>13982892
Man, I'd love to blow these KR#1 promotional images up into posters but all of them seem to have Ghost or Specter.

Base Ghost and Specter look good to me, but I'd really like to have a poster image with just Hongk alone. Already looking into blowing up an image of the blu ray of the original show. Would be cool to have a picture of his new suit to have next to his original suit.

>>13983053
Andddd of course it wasn't the real Shadow Moon.

>>13982996
>looks like something from The First
I'm not seeing it.

>The First suit designed by Itsubuchi is bad
Go back to your cartoon son.

>>13982788
As far as I am concerned, the last ep ruined everything.

>Making the movie villian become part of the canon, even if it makes no sense
>Last-minute cramming on Joey's realization about Hase, most likely out of fan demand
>Kaito becomes LE TREE SPIRIT
>Micchy only appears redeemed to Kouta-Jesus, but not to the people who should know about this, like Takatora or Team Gaim
>No Gridon with Matsubokkuri Arms, Ryugen with Orange Arms. Just a motherfucking repaint of Apple riders based off Gaim.
>The planet that appears in the end turned blue instead of, you know, orange

They could have just ended the movie with what they made-up in the Drive movie war, and that would be somewhat more decent than this shitfest of a last episode.

>>13983085
I forgot the last and most important thing:

>Nobody was called a Kamen Rider.

I remember back when we hyped over how the title will be earned by someone who fights for justice rather than for war or for winning the forbidden fruit, out of all the Armored Riders. We used to come up with shit like how Micchy had to bare the title of kamen rider since he technically was the last armored rider, as well as serving the remainder of his life amending for his sins through acts of justice.

>>13983083
>Liking edgy remake suits
Fucking kids.

>>13983095
Urobuchi said he was going to make that leap with Kouta's character, but instead he spent the second half of the show being a total moron about Mitchy.

>>13983059
Your entire post is shit taste.

>>13983063
Are you fucking retarded? How is it a gag suit? You fucking kids hate it because it's older than you, don't you?

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>>13983095
Gaim was good, but it shit the bed a lot.

>Loose ends.
>Sid Lockseed.
>Shin Zangestu(Mitchy) Arc.
>Power level shifting.
>Yomi being used in one battle.
>Shitty Soccer Movie.
>Shitty Last Episode.

>>13983085
>Making the movie villian become part of the canon, even if it makes no sense
The movie villain was always canon though. They had a tie in episode and he appeared there at the end. You didn't want to count it just because it wasn't written by Urobuchi or something? But that'd be just your fanon.

>Last-minute cramming on Joey's realization about Hase, most likely out of fan demand

That was in the second to last episode.

>>13983095
Yet again, that's just your fanon that the crossover stuff wasn't canon. The moment Gaim earned the title Kamen Rider in crossovers it should have been obvious that they'd never use the actual term in the series, unless they referenced the crossovers directly in order to explain it.

The same thing had already happened with OOO and Wizard. Gaining their Rider titles in crossover meant they'd get no 2nd introduction in the series.

>>13983123
A lot of this would have directly ruined any show for good in the fanbase's eyes, but somehow Gaim's good points managed to overcome it. Still, if Urobuchi managed to overcome this points (as in, write these things with much more freedom than he thought he had), then maybe Gaim would be remembered for a long time.

>>13983123
>Shitty Last Episode.
At least Full Throttle made up for it.

>Power level shifting.
Eh, I thought Gaim handled power levels rather well. There were some lame excuses for power level fluidity at times, especially that one battle where Micchy going crazy somehow was a power up, but at least they had an excuse for it, rather than just making things flow like the plot needed without explanation.

>>13983141
Full Throttle was way better than I expected, like Megamax levels good.

>>13983068
What? Yes it is. It's the Creation King taking control of Nobuhiko, and Nobuhiko himself taking control and using the Creation King's power himself later on in the fight.

>>13982499
so instead of a pair of sunglasses, we get a masquerade ball mask. Sounds okay

>>13983132
I'm not trying to push fanons or whatever in the way of judging the show. But there are things like the movie villian as not only canon, but the FINAL boss after all that shit that never involved him was what a majority of people agreed to be bad taste, in contrast to what was established and expected from the series. All those factors like Yomi and Joey's realization make it obvious that they rushed through the final segments of Gaim and are trying to wrap up as many loose ends as they can, yet it ends up making more problems than solving them. The ending was definitely mediocre at best compared to the tension of the show's beginning and middle, or even compared to shows of the opposite that have good endings, like OOO.

>>13983123
Don't forget that time Ryoma wanted Kouta and Kaito to do some investigation to create new belts which didn't go anywhere.

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>>13982564
Yeah all the Rid...wait...Necroms snorkel is gone...WHAT?!

>>13983155
Between riding a rocket out of the city and putting his brain in a robot, Ryoma never quite had a consistent plan.

>>13983154
The last episode was more of an epilogue though. The actual final boss was Lord Baron.

The movie villain was a joke compared to him and not presented as a threat to Gaim at all (although, really, if they were going to add a new enemy in the last episode, I'd have preferred for it to be a real threat rather than a joke... but that crappy villain couldn't even keep up with standard Kiwami Gaim in his own movie, and the version in the final episode is supposed to be weakened...).

>>13983155
You're mixing up stuff. He wanted to crate new belts, but it was denied by Takatora, which is why he wanted him dead.

He wanted Kouta and Kaito to investigate the overlords in order to approach the Forbidden Fruit. In the series itself we didn't get to see any of his research regarding the forbidden fruit, but we did get it in the Gaim Gaidens.

>>13983141
Full Throttle was a blessing.

The power level thing just annoys me, like they could've made it that Mitchy was pushing/overusing the E.Lockseed to it's limits, causing brief power fluxing or something.

>>13983155
I just figured that was a lie just to either get them killed, or research.
Ryoma thought the Genesis Driver was the Apex of his tech, and his reaction to Kachidoki's Intro proved this.

>>13983148
Yeah I noticed that later on when he turned red. I'm just saying the Creation King probably organized the whole affair more so than SM himself.

>>13983154
But OOO rushed through the Greeeds.

>>13983178
Gaim Gaiden 3 when?

>>13983178
Oh, I see. Wait, didn't Kouta also turn down Ryoma's request here as well?

>>13983185
wrong
fuck off shitposter

>>13982689
>rocket launcher
I'm sorry?

>>13983172
Did we have that Lemon part's OST (when the 4 riders walk in that dark place) in Gaiden 2 yet?

>>13983166

It's fucking stupid. Grimm and Sanzo are the only Eyecons with Necrom's snorkel, and they're stuck like that.

>>13982499
>Hand-me-down Boost with a horrible undersuit

Necrom is still the only good suit.

>>13983262

It's technically not a hand me down, otherwise it would be Boost itself.

>>13983262
yes sir

>>13983208
Yes, he rejects, ends up thrown in a cell, but then Sagara frees him and gives him Energy Lemon and the Genesis Core.

>>13983237
I think he meant RPG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNonm4GLl38

>>13983279
And then they had to bundle DX Lemon with the arrow.

>>13983374
There was no reason for them to make Jinba Melon from a business standpoint, since people who wanted the genesis core gonna get the dx melon energy anymore. Their biggest dick move was slapping the much-needed dx lemon energy with sonic arrow (which is limited supplied), and following lemon baron's debut, the fucking sonic arrow package became like $200+ in the after-market.

>Deep Specter is just fucking Boost.
Ghost is so fucking pathetic, how has that garbage show not been cancelled yet?

>>13983385

It JUST started.
And it's his version of Boost. There's nothing wrong with that.

>>13983384
dx melon energy anyway*

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>how has that garbage show not been cancelled yet

>>13983387
>20 episodes in
>just started
Fuck off Ghostfag, stop trying to defend the worst Rider in history.

>Kamen Rider and Sentai toys are getting more fisher-price-tier with every season

It's time to stop.

>>13983387
It didn't just start though.
>Hand-me-downs are a-okay now

Christ

>>13983328
His fighting style is as well thought out as his character

>Ghostfags are ACTUALLY defending hand-me-down upgrades
Fucking christ, Ghostcucks are worse than fucking Gaim babbies.

>>13983385
The only franchise toku I can think of that actually got cancelled (or at least made to run shorter than initially planned) were Metalder and Ultraman Nexus, and both cases had changes in timeslot involved.

>>13983415
Masked Rider Amazon got cancelled

>>13983417
That also involved a timeslot change though, since Rider moved to a different tv station right afterwards.

>>13983410
It doesn't actually use parts from Boost though, aside from the weapon. It's just a design with a similar theme, not Specter with a bunch of red crap from Boost recycled on his suit.

>>13983438
Necrom Specter already fills the borrowed parts role anyway.

>>13983172
The movie villain was a huge threat and took a dozen Riders to beat him. Yes he was much weaker on return but Kouta wasn't expected to show up. With just his default weapons, Jam and Ryugen weren't super outmatched.

>>13983279
The spin-off made it looked like Ryoma got the idea of Jinba from Saver since he already developed ELS by then. Would explain why Saver used normal Lockseeds because ELS was still incomplete.

>>13983432
Well true but that's not why it was cancelled

>>13983410
At least he gets a new suit and a slight change to the reused Boost sword. Unlike MAHHA getting Drive's sloppy leftover and nothing else.

>>13983478
Does the movie discuss lockseed development more? I've always been confused how they talk about designing them when we see most riders pluck them and get a random type.

>>13983495
The best part isn't that Mach's lack of sales killed a chance for an upgrade, it's the sour grapes like "I'm already strong" mentality that he stuck with while constantly getting wrecked.

>>13983506

Yeah, that episode was fucking stupid. He should have stuck with his original idea of getting Rinna to make an upgrade for him.

>>13983319
I'm still a bit confused. Guess I should watch the other Den-O movies then.

>>13983450
The movie villain couldn't really do anything against Gaim as soon as he changed to Kachidoki. In Kiwami, Gaim one shotted one of his forms.

Yeah, in the end, we got everyone gathering to beat him, but it really didn't feel like it was necessary, since right before then, Gaim was easily destroying his forms by himself once he started using Kachidoki and Kiwami.

>>13983515
I always figured Mach could have gotten a cool Accel Trial like upgrade.

>>13983498
Nope, just lockseeds in the first spin-off were Ryoma's experiments with Helheim's power and maybe movie dragon fruit came from spin-off dragon fruit (but really is because they recycled the props).

>>13983534
I wish they gave Kiwami a different weapon to differentiate the forms even more. At least Drive has a justified reason.

>>13983498
It's briefly mentioned that Ryoma created an Apple lockseed and the Yomotsuheguri lockseed while making experiments that could prove the existence of the Forbidden Fruit, and in the 2nd one we get some flashbacks to testing the early lockseeds and an accident that happens there, but no real information.

>>13983498
I guess the fruit is like Transformium, it just really doesn't make sense.

>>13983548
Kiwami uses Taiken mode of the DJ gun more than Kachidoki. If they really wanted to solidify him with a signature weapon, they could have gone for naginata mode with the Daidaimaru. But still, Gate of Helheim was satisfying enough.

>>13983549
>>13983557
Weird. I could accept some bullshit about the drivers changing them into some tested forms it knows are stable but the show told us it's a total lottery with how good the seeds are. Energy are the ones branded as artificial but then you get ones like normal Lemon which calls out Ryoma's name so are they programming the things?

>>13983392
That's the Drive face, but the Mach belt?

>>13983579
Like he explained in one ep, Ryoma adds phrases to lockseeds as a guilty pleasure. He only adds a phrase to his signature energy lockseed and not the others as a result. DJ Sagara probably follows the same thing with his own created lockseeds.

>>13983579
The impression I got was that in-universe the sounds are programmed into the belts, which is kind of ironic considering how the toys worked,

>>13983580
It's set after Krim is sealed away so he uses a mass produced thing

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>>13983580
Kamen Rider DeadHeat Drive, a movie exclusive form from Ghost X Drive Super Movie War Genesis.

Yeah, it's fucking stupid, but it was also way after the show ended, so I can't really care about it.

Magenta understands Japanese grammar fine but his vocabulary and knowledge are extremely limited (when Gaim was airing he displayed gross ignorance of standard warring states era stuff like never having heard of the battle of Sekigahara), plus he has the ridiculous idea that he has a duty to localise names for no fucking reason.

Oh and all that shit he went on about Sengoku's goku using 極 being the Japanese equivalent of spelling extreme as Xtreme was plain bullshit, he doesn't seem to understand ateji at all.

>>13983579
The sound thing was actually mentioned in the show, when Ryoma met Kouta and Kaito. He was the one that programmed those.

>>13983579
I don't remember them saying ELS being artificial, aren't they just upgraded lockseeds?
Maybe Helheim fruits have different energy levels that the belt can convert into different lockseed classes and sorts?

>>13983602
>I don't remember them saying ELS being artificial, aren't they just upgraded lockseeds?
Yeah, that was never said. People just assumed that they were for some reason, and the show never showed one being created on screen, letting that view remain.

It's also a rather silly concept in the first place. ALL lockseeds are technically artificial. They're Helheim fruits transformed with Ryoma's tech. The Energy Lockseeds are clearly tied to Helheim too, so what would it even mean by "artificial lockseeds"?

Wärring

>>13983592
Why would they use ateji when Sengoku has perfectly valid Kanji? It doesn't seem like a pun either. I also don't get mashin, do they just want some Kanji word play?

>>13983607
I think he meant that they were artificially made stronger to bump them to the S-class range. They, along with the genesis driver, were adjusted from the data collected by the first sengoku drivers distributed, so I suppose he added more "soda" for maximum power.

>>13983607
I guess there was that Sid one, but thinking back that one also was never specified to be artificial either.

>>13983622
Looks to be the wikia's fault for assuming.
http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Lockseeds

>>13983618
>Why would they use ateji when Sengoku has perfectly valid Kanji?

Hi Magenta nice to see how you still don't understand ateji at all.

The entire point of ateji is writing things differently, in older days because they wanted to write foreign words in kanji because that was how it was at the time, and contemporarily sometimes because you want to convey a different nuance, or in the case of names like this, just because you want it to be cool. Also I just looked up the English wikipedia article on ateji and it's absolute fucking bullshit, no wonder people have no idea what they're talking about.

Also, 戦極 is a made-up word and thus works as a name. 戦国 is an actual word that could not possibly be someone's name.

>>13983415
>Ultraman Nexus
>canceled

Like "Fucking Trash" canceled or "Japanese kids have shit taste" canceled?

>designer of the new Rider 1 shit said Takaiwa was in the Toei Spider-man suit for some photo related works

It would be interesting to see Toei Spider to be a surprise guest in the Rider 1 movie.

>>13983417
>masked rider

>>13983636
It's more of the latter. Nexus deviated from the standard "ultraman formula" in many ways.

It's still fondly remembered though, they had a tribute episode for it in the recent Ultraman X

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>>13983636
I'm not sure if you're trying to imply something with that question but maybe this is relevant.

>>13983643
Every show before W is officially Masked Rider.

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>>13983643

>>13983634
I also want to elaborate on how Magenta was full of shit when he claimed it was the equivalent of "Xtreme" or rock bands with meaningless umlauts.

極 is a word highly associated with, big shock, stuff from the sengoku era and samurai in general. Watch a period drama and you'll almost certainly find a guy who wants to master his sword style who will go on and on about how he wants to reach the kiwami, or kiwameru his sword. That's the nuance. It's a period thing.

The nuance from 戦極 is thus "mastering the art of war" or "master of the art of war", and even if this doesn't come naturally to a Japanese child watching the show what does come to mind is "it has that difficult word that the samurai always say".

I reiterate: Claiming that this is equivalent to Xtreme or rock band umlauts is blatant fucking ignorance of the highest degree.

>>13983652
Also I want to add that I'm Japanese and know what I'm talking about. Magenta is a faggot who doesn't.

Proof: >>>/int/56226722

>>13983660
Then why aren't you speaking exclusively in incredibly broken English?
Give the people what they want, you fuck.

>>13983662
うるせぇよ金玉すり潰して豚に食わすぞオラ

>>13983652
極 means something like peak limit doesn't it.

>>13983662
Don't Japanese kids learn english at a young age in schools now?

For all the expert Japanese speakers in krg you'd think we'd have more than 2 and a half subgroups in the entire fandom.

>>13983677
Even if they do, it's probably like learning French or Spanish as a kid.
You only maintain like five phrases and ten words, tops.

>>13983677
Well they have to, or else Tyrone won't be able to understand them while he marries a girl, has 4 kids and then runs off to do it again.

>>13983675
Kiwami means pinnacle or zenith, kiwameru means to master something and reach the pinnacle or zenith.

The image it brings to mind is that of a very traditional Japanese person training very hard to master their craft. It is nothing like "Xtreme" and rock band umlauts.

>>13983693
Xtreme is a long honored American tradition and represents everything important to us Americans.

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>>13983636
Nexus was a show made for the adult fans as a sequel to Ultraman The Next, and as such Nexus is pretty dark and unlike regular Ultraman shows.

Unfortunately the network didn't think adults cared enough and as such the show was shoved into the usual early morning timeslot where the intended audience missed it, and the kiddies either didn't like it or were too scared of it.

Basically the network accidentally killed it.

>>13983682
Not with those phonetics. Same goes for the chinese. Christ, the chinese have hundreds of word sounds and they still not even half right with english phonetics.

>>13983680
Translation takes time and effort, on top of that you have to put up with people bitching about speed and translations.

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>>13983708
I'm already disappointed that MCU Spider-man will make no reference to the Japanese show.

>>13983708
KIMI WA NAZEEEEEEEE
KIMI WA NAZEEEEEEEE

>>13983708
I'm still mad the only time he appeared in a Marvel comic was in that garbage one where every Spider-Man was killed.

>>13983715
How do you know?

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>>13983677
They are educated by
1) Teachers who have no experience speaking native-level English, have never left the country, who only got their qualifications by memorizing vocabulary words (eitango)
and/or
2) Drunken white boys on the JET program who have no teaching qualifications and cannot tell the difference between a pronoun and a verb, or "its" and "it's", or "could have" and "could of"

whose entire goal is to NOT educate them on how to speak or understand the language, but to be able to memorize vocabulary words so that they can pass the exams and get into good schools.

Picture is a "tangochou", which have english words written on one side of the paper and Japanese meaning on the other. Students use these to memorize word meanings. They do not know how to use the words in any way.

The only Japanese who can actually speak English are those who have lived overseas. It is impossible to learn the language inside of Japan because of the education system and culture, where if a student pronounces a word fluently instead of how the katakana dictates it (apple instead of appuru), the teacher will say they are wrong and their classmates will bully them.

>>13983719
Because good things aren't allowed to happen.

>>13983721
I can't imagine JET is that easy to get into.

>>13983722
We could get something really subtle, like Spidey using a plane named Marveller

>>13983727
I see you have not been taught by a JET teacher.

It is not just the assistant teachers, the juku also insist on hiring "native" teachers not based on qualifications but based on what they look like. Black people and asians who are native English speakers with teaching qualifications find it harder to get jobs than drunken white boys who dropped out of college with no teaching qualifications.

>>13983702
>the usual early morning timeslot
But Ultraman was usually on a different slot before that.

>>13983734
>Niggers
>Being a teacher
Oh you are stupid.

>>13983739
Regardless it aired at a time when the intended demographic wouldn't be able to watch it.

>>13983734
I'm only saying that because, as a college dropout with no teaching experience but decent English skills, you make me sound overqualified.

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>>13981723
>rumor has it she was abused as a child
>Cast her as the daughter of a particularly cuntish archvillain

That's pretty shitty if true.

>>13983750
Of course it isn't true you double faggot.

>>13983702
>made for the adult fans as a sequel to Ultraman The Next
But the movie was shown in theaters after the series started. And "for adults" might be an exaggeration since the staff specifically mentioned kids that saw Cosmos, which was only 3 years earlier.

>>13983750
Some anon said she's just a bit of a cunt irl.

>>13983747
>decent English skills, you make me sound overqualified.

If you're white, then yes, being able to speak English properly already makes you more than qualified.

The eikaiwa and juku are infamous for their hiring procedures where if "white man" is worth 100 points, "white woman" is worth 80, and "decent English skills" is worth 10.

"Not white" is worth -50 points.

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>>13983741
Good one Anon!

kys

>>13983765
You first nigger lover.

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>>13983592
He used a weird choice of wording, but he at least understood what was written.

>>13983769
He understands words but not nuances and is full of himself. He fancies himself as a professional translator who has to do top quality Nintendo tier localizations.

>>13983787
>Nintendo
>Top quality translations
My sides.

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>>13983765
>>13983766
>Mortezfag
>Racist

How about you both go.

>>13983766
The irony is that African is the only race that doesn't have caveman genes.