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How much power does 2ch have in the anime world? I've heard

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How much power does 2ch have in the anime world? I've heard rumors they were responsible for the changes in the second halves of Code Geass and Gundam SEED Destiny/00. They were also a big driving force in boycotting Gundam Age and whatever the hell Kokoro Concert is.
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>>13895005
Functionally none. They're like 4chan but japanese only and much smaller. They're not a representative sample of anything.
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They don't have power but they are a representative of the otaku's voice in Japan compared to 4chan considering, you know, they're the only demographic that largely buys it

Late night anime is targeted at otakus
Lots of otakus browse 2ch
Thus, lots of otaku can "target" late night anime by doing things like lots of hateposting or "trolling the pre-orders".

Also the Kokoro Connect thing was about some of the staff members being assholes mainly

> I've heard rumors they were responsible for the changes in the second halves of Code Geass and Gundam SEED Destiny/00.
Code Geass was because the timeslot shifted from it's late night time to a primetime slot so a lot of things had to be rewritten.

I'm pretty sure all the problems with SEED Destiny were purely internal.

00 was also internal but that was because the higher-ups listened too much to dumbass Gunotas and their "not muh Gundam". Really Kokoro Connect is the only example you have of 2ch actually having an effect on something.
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>>13895051
>I'm pretty sure all the problems with SEED Destiny were purely internal.

Well they were but supposedly the reason that nobody higher up stopped Fukuda from switching the lead to Kira is because all 2chan did was bitch about how they wanted Kira back and fuck Shinn. And the reason the show focused so hard on the Shinn vs Kira part after a while is because 2chan was hyped beyond hyped at that shot of them fighting in the first OP.

And SF was as overpowered as it was because of all the things 2chan thought it had (Dragoon wings, wings of light like Destiny etc) Fukuda saw and decided to add. And IJ's entire existance (and Savior shafting as a result) was because 2chan said "Well if there's an upgrade Freedom there should be a Justice too!" etc.

Basically every time 2chan was in agreement about something Fukuda went "That's a great idea we should totally do that"
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2ch is for Jap geeks, Jap geeks also make anime.
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>>13895051
What happened with Kokoro connect? Did they change the main girl?
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>>13895323
Seiryu drama that became the reason Aquarion can't have Sirius anymore.
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>>13895323
http://pastebin.com/EvntSeCV
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>>13895110
Given that, was Tusk's speech at Embryo inspired by some "I fucked your waifu" post or one mocking waifufags? Have Nips gotten the same level of irony as us?
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>>13895323
They played this mean spirited prank on a young VA and tried to use it to promote the series. People flipped their shit and one of the most popular shows of the sesson became one of the least popular basically overnight.
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>>13895392
>getting pissy over this
wtf 2chumblr grow some goddamn balls
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>>13895539
>Kokoro Connect
>one of the most popular shows of that season
Nah

Even before the scandal, nah
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>>13895355

Sugita still showed for the aniversary thing so no, they can use him. He just doesn't like Terashima anymore.

They don't use Sirus because Japan hates the character.
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>>13895496
Cross Ange in general was Fukuda's unironic shitposting anyway
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>>13895539
What was the prank?
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>>13896067

>>13895392
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>>13895005
I don't know man, who actually buys those insanely priced blurays and figurines? Not the average Nip.

Just as everyone on /v makes fun of e-celebs and IGN you can't deny their influence.
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People seem to have a lot of misconceptions about 2ch.
First off, 2ch != 2chan. 2ch is a text-only board.
2ch is a normalfag website, everyone uses it, it's like twitter or facebook. Its Alexa rank is 22 in Japan.

>In 2007, 2.5 million posts were made every day
>Launched in 1999, it has gained significant influence in Japanese society, comparable to that of traditional mass media such as television, radio, and magazines.
>It has been described as "Japan’s most popular online community, with around ten million users accessing it each day.

News websites like yaraon are what's called matome blogs, they just aggregate 2ch threads and call it news. This had a big influence because of how easy it is to paint a certain narrative.

The idea that 2ch buys BDs is also retarded, they themselves don't know why shit sells sometimes.
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>>13895392
Jesus christ, how's his career now?
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>>13896344
Still struggling. He did land the lead in Freezin and Jiken Note, though.

He's also got a hot wife who makes cookie, is true comrades with Sugita and has endeared himself to the entire internets for his efforts to break into an industry rife with scumbags.

I think he's gonna be alright.
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>>13895392
After reading this,now I cannot continue So Ra No Wo To without thinking Kanata being a massive bitch.
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>>13895392
As expected from the nation that shamelessly hunts whales.I cannot fathom how come anime fans even dream of actually visiting that xenophobic nation.I never had same sentiments even for american cartoons.
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>>13895039
Ah yes, the usual: Dumbasses who have no idea what they're talking about spewing bullshit from the orifices that they're supposed to be using as mouths.

How influential is 2channel? Here's how: Dentsu has an entire department with their own fucking floor in their Shiodome honsha building dedicated solely to looking at what's being said on 2channel. Not what's being said online, what's being said on 2channel alone.
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>>13896288
nyaa is Alexa's 50th. in Nippon.
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>>13898227
Do you think Japanese hunt wales because of racism?
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>>13898251
Yes. Korea is the origin of all things, including life, which means whales are themselves inherently Korean, and it is a known fact that the xenophobic racist Jap imperalist tyrant dictator pigs constantly engage in systematic racist discrimination against all things Korean out of jealousy for the superior Korean race. REMEMBER THE COMFORT WOMEN, DOKDO IS KOREAN TERRITORY.
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>>13896700
>He's also got a hot wife who makes cookie
I'll say so, you could do a lot worse than this.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=21734

On the other hand as >>13896700 mentioned his career is still going nowhere and he's already like 33.
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Isn't 2chan much smaller, and slower than 4chan? I doubt they have as many issues with plugging and shilling if they aren't seen as a viable place of advertisement.
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>>13895039
>smaller than 4chan
You fucking idiot.
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>>13898329
oh the ignorance

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/2ch.net
Global rank: 340

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/4chan.org
Global rank: 892
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>>13898333
>>13898332
>inb4 newfaggots confusing 2chan and Futaba yet again
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>>13898336
>o-op was talking about Futuba not 2ch
You fucking idiot.
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>>13895039
>>13895051
>>13895187

http://www.j-cast.com/2009/05/27042011.html

Google's research indicated that 38% of the users are college graduates, the biggest age group is 35-44 (34%), and 14% have annual incomes of over $88,000 USD (10,000,000 yen)
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>>13898341
I was clearly referring to these chucklefucks >>13898329 >>13895039

I AM >>13898333

Are you retarded?
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Okiayu wishes he wasn't here
Sugi with the silent treatment and distance
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>>13898353
>quotes >>13898332
>totally didn't quote that brah
No anon, you're the retard.
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>>13898359
the newfaggotry is strong with this dumbfuck
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>>13898356
Does Terashima and Okiayu had a role in Lost Heroes?
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>>13898361
You're right, I've made a horrible mistake.
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>>13898311
As far as I've heard, for most voice actors it's a side job, unless you can get a regular gig such as being an announcer on a variety show you'll basically need some other job to pay the bills.
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>>13895891
But in an episode of Tokyo Encounter he's talking about Terashima as if they were good friends. I doubt that's scripted
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>>13898392
Pretty much, the industry is oversaturated thanks to senmongakkou that claim to be able to train kids to become VAs (they basically teach you how to breathe and make you exercise, otherwise you either have talent or don't). The graduates then sign up on to agencies (they pay the agencies to be listed, not the other way around), and wait for the agencies to give them auditions which may or may not get them jobs (usually not).

The small crowd you hear in every show ever is the one that actually makes a living from being VAs. The ones that you may hear in maybe one named role a season are probably working the convenience mart registers six days a week.
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>>13898402
The shit about Terashima and Sugita is just nonsense internet fangirl gossip. The copypasta is plain lies.

>Sugita ignored Terashima on the talkshow!
>he clearly doesn't

>He unfollowed him on Twitter!
>he wasn't following him to begin with

etc.
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>>13898407
or voicing gay audio drama
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>>13898402
*are
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>>13898415
Or porn.
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>>13898415
Nope, that's still just the usual crowd. If anything BL drama CDs tend to gravitate towards the old guard, with people like Ishida and Midorikawa and Koyasu and so on.
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>>13898415
BL is even more niche, it's a step backwards. Otherwise you'll still see Sugita do BL.

Audio drama for popular anime are great though, because they just keep making them as long as the series is popular. It means constant work for VAs.

In order to be popular, a VA either needs a good looking face that can be marketed or a distinctive voice. This is true for any industry.
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>>13898431
Okiayu has generic face and generic middle aged man voice yet he's still one of the popular oldfags.
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>>13898431
>Otherwise you'll still see Sugita do BL.
You mean like he does ALL THE TIME?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfiQ2LvRIgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MIfk0E8_Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U97AY1vINo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEDFUXy4R4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_CqyJMtVJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFbK2DgU3Uo&list=PLNqERrcmUdMZ2R31d9nINifmVf02EczVW
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>>13898431
>Otherwise you'll still see Sugita do BL.
Here's a list.

http://blcd.wikiwiki.jp/?%BF%F9%C5%C4%C3%D2%CF%C2
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>>13898447
BL CD lists

Midorikawa
http://blcd.wikiwiki.jp/?%CE%D0%C0%EE%B8%F7

Okiayu
http://blcd.wikiwiki.jp/?%C3%D6%B0%BE%CE%B6%C2%C0%CF%BA

Koyasu
http://blcd.wikiwiki.jp/?%BB%D2%B0%C2%C9%F0%BF%CD

Ishida
http://blcd.wikiwiki.jp/?%C0%D0%C5%C4%BE%B4

Kamiya
http://blcd.wikiwiki.jp/?%BF%C0%C3%AB%B9%C0%BB%CB

And so on and so forth
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>>13898431
>>13898419
>>13898329
>>13895187
>>13895110
>>13895051
>>13895039
List of retards who have no idea what they're talking about
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>>13898407
>The ones that you may hear in maybe one named role a season are probably working the convenience mart registers six days a week.

Man,that sucks
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>>13898455
>Koyasu

fuck yeah thanks anon
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>>13898647
It's just an extension of what it's like for 99% of actors. You do bit parts in commercials, PSAs, stage plays. Getting a 5 year TV deal is amazing for an actor, it means steady work for years without having run around like crazy to make ends meet.
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>>13898285
And I was going to travel to the Eastern part of my country to legally hunt a whale someday. Thanks God you stopped me from genociding Korean heritage.
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>>13898647
Most of the actual successful VAs have backgrounds in stage acting or even actual acting (like how people bring up how Honna Youko or Koyama Rikiya were in Kamen Rider Black). It's not surprising that kids who just took classes for 2-3 year basically just to learn how to breathe right don't get as many jobs as them.

>>13898718
Even then it's still the old guard people go to for all that stuff most of the time; If you watch TV in Japan you will hear Wakamoto doing voiceovers for variety shows at least once a night.
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>>13898227
>>13898285

Not sure if serious or fucking around.
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>>13895392
and now I am angry
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>>13898233
>literally paid to browse a japanese anime forum
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>>13899174
>And I was going to travel to the Eastern part of my country to legally hunt a whale someday. What is that, an hour drive tops?
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>>13901901
Oh shit I'm drunk
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>>13901901
It's a 6 hour drive + a 8.5 hour flight.
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>>13898233
Anon you don't use your mouth when typing stuff in on an imageboard
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>>13895005
>implying eleven producers give a fuck about their fans
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>>13908263

>>13898233
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>>13908302
Someone has to stop the space rats, 2ch can do it.
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