/krg/ - Kamen Rider General #1132 - Chains of the Skeptic Edition

>>13790358
what did we say about you making threads you fuckass.

We know its you.
Just because you took your trip off doesn't mean we can't tell.

Does anyone have the webm of Kug wrecking the porcupine, I somehow managed to start some form of conversation with my friends about rider. This may invoke interest in rider and I need people who like rider who aren't /krg/

>>13790433
Oh no it's the 4chan sheriff.

>>13790433
Goe away.

I just finished Faiz.
It's not as bad as you guys made it out to be, I guess I got caught in the memes.

>>13790437
>>13784210

>>13790464
I liked all the stupid drama at the end. Also seeing Kusaka get murdered was very gratifying. Stupid git.

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>>13790464
Most KR has badly written character drama, Faiz was just more melodramatic with it's portrayal of it
personally I found it hilarious though

>>13790474
That is genuinely one of my favorite scenes in all of KR, super brutal and frankly the guy had it coming. Kiba was the best thing about Faiz in general I feel.

>>13790474

I actually liked Kusaka and his antics. It was when he stopped being such an asshole that things got a bit boring.

Delta spoilers
Now, Mihara I couldn't stomach. He was the most irrelevant character in the main storyline and yet he got the most powerful belt. He was a huge bitch at first, and after he became the main Delta user he lost all traces of a personality. I hated his guts, the worst part of Faiz to me.

Stupid drama is fun, I got in with the right mentality and enjoyed the ride. Also: Exceed Charge just became my favorite Rider Kick.

>>13790494

Kaidou was my favorite, most scenes he was in were hilarious.

You died and get revived as an orphenoch.
What do you do?

>>13790514
Have an existential crisis.

>>13790504
Yeah Mihara was shit. Dragon Orphenoch using the Delta gear was fun for a while but really the chick who it was initially intended for was the only cool Faiz user.

Kaidou was cool too. I found the trio of Kiba, Kaidou and Yuka's half of the story to be more interesting than Takumi, Mari, Keitaro and Kusaka personally.

>>13790514
I could try being cool but then Kusaka would probably destroy me (see Crab Orphenoch)
so basically >>13790516 I guess

Did the orphenoch really have naked human talking shadows or was that some drama thing?

>>13790530
Probably for dramatic effect. Inoue was the main writer, after all.

>>13790530
I'm pretty sure that wasn't meant to be taken literally, m8.

I'm on the last five episodes of Fourze. This was the worst show of the entire series. Worse than Kiva, worse than Faiz, and worse than Ghost. It's nothing but introducing switch after switch for the first 2/3 of the show. Gentaro just wants to run around like a sperglord screaming about friendship. NONE of them try to inspect where these Zodiart are coming from. NOT EVEN WHEN IT'S REVEALED A TEACHER IS GIVING OUT SWITCHES. They were just fine coasting through making switches and retarded fast food machines. Not to mention the fact that the guy from Kung Pow had a better Bruce Lee impression. The only thing that was cool was Cosmic States. It's pretty decent for a final form

>>13790514
Step into my closet and scream for about 5 hours. Being the Dragonfly Orphenoch would be weird.

Would be interesting if they show what happened to the two lucky clover orphenochs at the end of Kamen Rider 4.

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>>13790547
I'm sorry you couldn't enjoy it as much as I did, but I respect your opinion.
What are your top shows?

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>>13790559
>That filename

>>13790559
Its not that I even hate it. It's fun, but has no real substance to it. It was the equivalent to a summer blockbuster to me, it's fun but it doesn't require thinking.
Kuuga
Gaim
OOO

>>13790514
Figure out what to do with my new abilities, and how I can benefit myself and others with them without dying horribly.

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Ghost does some neat things.

>>13790528
>The Crab Orphnoch's voice actor Satoshi Matsuda, previously portrayed Ren Akiyama/Kamen Rider Knight in Kamen Rider Ryuki.
Neat.

>>13790586
You already died once, why not die again?
Perhaps a couple more times?
Better get a dog too.

>>13790616
>Better get a dog too.
Being turned into the Bulldog Orphenoch would make that rather pointless

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>>13790616
Just make sure the dog doesn't die the next day.

Houdini confirmed a better fighter than Nobunaga and Tutankhamen

How is Specter? I stopped watching Ghost after the third episode because I hated all the characters, but is it worth checking out for him? What kind of personality we talkin here?

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>>13790651
Started as edgy rival, now transitioning into bro Rider.

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THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME FROM ENDLESS IDOL GROUPS BASED MATSUOKA

Watched the Baron Gaim Gaiden yesterday and I just couldn't stop laughing when the bikes came out of nowhere during the Dragon Fruit fight. I know it's a KR show but the bike thing was so corny and unexpected it was hilarious.

>>13790651
It gets better. Still below most Heisei shows.

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>>13790651
Spectre is basically the only interesting character in the show, I wish he was the main. He even has better music

>>13790729
>Specter
>not Aran-sama

>>13790651
He's the only one who takes his Job/role seriously.

When he's in the picture, things feel like shit is going down.

>>13790742
I'm in the middle on Aran, I'm not sure what to think of him. I'll wait at see what he is like as Necrom, it seems like he'll have a rivalry with Spectre

>>13790651
Currently the top rated Ghost character in /krg/, take that as you will

>>13790836
Necrom/Aran will surely take his place.

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So Specter can't fly without Houdini, right?

>>13790841
Yep, he's flightless without him

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>Tengan
>Dynamite Boat Race
>Omega Boatnya

>>13790855
Why'd you post a set of stairs, what does that have to do with Kamen Rider?

I really hope there's a way to remove the plastic straps on the Megauloader so I can replace them with straps that will actually fit around my giant man arms.

>>13790864
>I really hope there's a way to remove the plastic straps on the Megauloader so I can replace them with straps that will actually fit around my flabby grognard arms.
FTFY

>>13790867
By "giant man arms" I meant "arms larger than that of an 7 year old Asian child".

>>13790864
I have large arms, the Drive brace fits on me, granted on the last little notch, but it fits. The Megauloader should be the same.

Don't worry about it, Anon.

>>13790651

Probably the worst secondary, has nothing note worthy about him and is the shittiest renn clone so far.

>>13790841
You can tell that they are making upgrades based on what a toy version would look like. Really no need to have 4 turbines when 2 would have looked better. The sides should have been a cloak, not wings. Or a cloak that could harden into wings.

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Himoko, more like HimiCUTE

>>13790879
>worst secondary
>says this right after GETTING KEKED AT MACH SPEED

>>13790889

I didn't like Gou " I was pretending to be retarded!" Shinjima either. But atleast he had character and personality at the start of the show; at least he wasn't a shitty carbon copy of a previously existing one.

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>>13790887
Kawaii!

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>>13790889
>Hating based Mahha

>>13790903
Nothing based about being a faggot for 30 episodes.

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>>13790903
Even Mahha doesn't think he's based

>>13790887
More goodies inside or just a preview?

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>>13790911
>tfw he will never be happy again

Does Decade SHFSS have a release date yet?

>>13790917
He is happy though. He got to say what he wanted and needed to during Genesis, so he can move on happily with his life.

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>>13790923
Not yet, it should show up before next weekend.

>>13790896
Gou is literally Beast mixed with Garren you retarded fuck

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>hating on Spider-Mach
>>13790911
He looks like that in most of his modeling pictures. Its his thing.
>>13790908
Kaito was a faggot for most of Gaim then. Gou had MAH Daddy, Kaito had MAH tree and strength.

>>13790967
Looking good, Ultimate Kuuga.

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>>13790967

>>13790887
will be the least selling toy

>>13790988
And that is why it's paired with Sanzo and Grimm in a 3-pack.

>>13790988
That's why it's bundled in with other, better looking toys and not sent out on its own to die.

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>AU where Kuuga's suits are white, and Daguva is black

>>13790993
Is it bundled as a 3 pack, or is it Bundled with Newton?

>>13791006
Newton is already out though

>>13791008
I'm speaking on the lines of The Ghost Change series.

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>>13791001

That wouldn't look too bad.

>>13791008

The GC version isn't.

>>13791011
>>13791012
Ah

Wait, that isn't out yet? It was one of the first forms in the show.

>>13791001
>AU Kuuga is humanity being complete bastards and hunting down Gurongi just for Sport.
>AU Daguva fights to protect the remaining Gurongi from Humanity and it's Champion hunter, Kuuga.
>Daguva is a Good guy and has Red Compound eyes.
>Kuuga is a Bad guy and has small Black eyes.
>Daguva looks more Kuuga Like.
>Kuuga looks more Gurongi like, but "Holy".

>>13791016
Yeah, it's strange.

Graceful is getting the Movable Hoodie Ore Soul, since Graceful can't really Ghost Change.

>>13791032
That one anon who thought the humans were the badguys in Kuuga would love this

Were the Undead in future crossover movies and were they killed in them?

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>>13791001
>>13791012

Anyone know how to make this work?

>>13791056
Other forms would be the same, Amazing/Ultimate would be White?

>>13791063

In photoshop. I should have mentioned that.

>Growing is black

>>13791066
Growing would be a Off white and mixed with a tint of Pink.

>>13791032
>Decade and Onodera visit this world
>They end up helping Daguva
>Onodera goes Ultimate and fights AU Kuuga alongside Daguva in a sick battle

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>>13791032

Honestly, with Daguva being turned into a Rider I would like his eyes to stay slick. Not as tiny as they were originally, but still.

>>13791074
>Daguva, Decade, and Onodera head up to a snow mountain side where Kuuga is waiting.
>Daguva goes into his Ultimate form while Decade and Onodera prepare to transform.
>Daguva stops them and tells them that this is something he needs to do alone.
>He sets fire behind him, blocking Decade and Onodera from following.
>Decade eager to fight attempts to rush through, but Onodera stops him and tells him no and it's time to leave.
>The Episode ends with Narutaki watching Daguva and Kuuga fighting to the death as he gives a speech on Decade's bullshit.
>Daguva and Kuuga both lay in the snow as the weather covers them both up.

If Daguva had alternate forms what elements would they be based on? Mighty is Fire, Dragon is Water, Pegasus is Air. and Titan is Earth. I guess he would be Lightning, Metal, Ice, and... Something vague.

>>13791040

During Decade, they were killed several times, but always by Decade or Diend (or it was that Undead copy that Apollogeist creates in the finale with Fangire life energy).

After that, I don't think they were ever killed on screen, outside of one exception. For example, there were some Undeads in SHTs Dai-Shocker in the final battle, and the heroes are shown to have won when the big bosses are defeated, but we don't actually see them being destroyed on screen. No Undeads were part of Badan either (who were supposed to be dead spirits).

In the Wizard finale though, there was Paradoxa (from Decade) and Tortoise among the spirits of dead monsters inside the magic stone, and both were destroyed again in the finale. There was a Tortoise killed in the Blade episodes of Decade too, so it could be just that one again.

>>13791112
Plant (or Wood), probably? It somehow seems to end up as an element sometimes.

>>13791112
>>13791124

Since we're missing air it could be Void.

>>13791112
It's just role reverse, If you wanted it to make it fun try:

>The humans during the series had been using a MP G1 Unit(G3 suits but red) to help Kuuga hunt down Gurongi.
>The Commander/Leader of the G1 squad is Ichijo, and he uses a G1-X unit.
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>Daguva uses the weapons the Gurongi used in the show and the Go Group's forms.
>Unlike Kuuga, Daguva obtains these forms after one of his Gurongi friends had died.
>Also unlike Kuuga, once the form is unlocked, it stays as part of the Base form.
-
>Grapple Form/Red Arms
>Quick Form/Blue Legs
>Shooting Form/Green Head
>Great Strength Form/Purple Body
-
>Shooting and GS are obtained in the 2 part episodes, while Quick is obtained during the intro of Episode 1 of 2.
>Once Daguva obtains these forms, his body starts reacting strangely and turns Black(Electric Shock Form).

>>13790949
Not >>13790896 but I guess a mix of two is slightly above a copy of just one.

>>13791182
Not when he's worse than either of them

>>13790949
>>13791182
Two great flavors that taste shit together

>>13790887
I was just about to ask.

When in the world do we usually get magazine scans?

Why are we comparing Gou to Garren when the latter got better as time went on while Gou did the opposite?

>>13791190

Dude, I hate Gou and love Beast but I'm not going to lie and say Gou isn't the objectively better character.

Beast was just a loveble personalit ywith almost no development or story purpose.

Gou accurately went through a lot of shit and changed multiple times through out the series.

>>13791222
>Gou accurately went through a lot of shit and changed multiple times through out the series.
Except for the part where it was literally a facade. He was literally never naturally a cheery, happy-person. His fucking insert song admits he's being double-faced.

>>13791228

That's more character depth then beast ever got.

>>13791238
Character depth is worthless when only one good fucking scene comes out of it.

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>>13791228
I actually love that about Gou, he comes into the show acting all crazy and over the top, but as time goes on you see his facade start to crack and fall apart as he get put under more pressure. Seeing him get his problems under control and work with Shinnosuke and Chase was great.

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>>13791240
>Only one
>Saving Shin from Tornado
>Working with Chase to save Yukari
>His interactions with Chase in general
>THAT FINAL FIGHT

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>>13790926
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>>13791282
>Professor Yurusen, I'm O.R.E

>>13791282
>dat lewd Aoi voice

>>13791282
Now imagine this exact same scene but with Aoi Yuuki instead of the puppet.

>>13791282
I wanna get some woo woo from that ghost

>>13791348
nigga he's like 17

>>13791387
Faizfriend*
:^)

>>13791387
Because he's in love with a girl who already has a boyfriend. Plus the only dick TS wants is smap dick anyway.

>>13791386
no the other ghost you silly willy

>>13791387
Because he's into Ultrabutts and Yokai Watch at the same time as a replacement.

>>13791393
Tigabuddy :^)

>>13791399
Nigga she's like 1700

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>>13791403
A body like that says otherwise

>>13791387
The biggest cuck is tokudude. He actually got cucked.

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>>13791312

>>13791445
what happened?

>>13790651
He is absolutely intolerable until his main plot is over. Probably the most annoying shithead 2nd rider ever, constantly yelling and screaming at everyone.

>>13791456
His girlfriend left him for a girl with cancer. He helped set them up, too.

>>13791461
For a second I thought you were talking about tokudude

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>>13790867
Haruto could probably fit them. Seriously does someone feed him? I'd imagine even using chopsticks would give you more definition than those sticks.

>>13791468
For someone who eats that many donuts he's skinny as fuck.

Then again he IS a wizard.

>>13791463
O-oh. I feel sorry for the guy, now. I thought you were kidding.

>>13791396
You blame her? I'd go gay for Goro.

Kamen Rider Cuck when?

>>13788960
>>13789522

>>13791525
Kamen Rider Ryugen was two years ago, anon.

>>13791534
In the end Micchy realized his real love. His bro Kouta.

>>13791525
I remember seeing a pastebin about KR Cuck and a Secondary I think.

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>>13791541
>In the end Micchy realized his real love. His bro
FTFY

>tfw specter is breaking the trend of great secondaries in post decade rider shows.

>>13791563
We're only 15 episodes in. I have faith he will get better.

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>>13791563
>Specter is

>>13791563
>tfw specter is breaking the trend of great secondaries in post decade rider shows.
>implying mach didn't break it.

>>13791573
oh no guys.

anon is retarded :(

>>13791575
Yeah, he for some reason dislikes Specter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiLIAsSLUGQ
How I have not seen this before

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>>13791610
>power of justice is invincible

It's a shame justice is trash

What's a good video player for Android that will work with mkvs like OT releases?

>>13791610
Random Riotrooper you are my hero.

>>13791629
I think its called MXplayer

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>>13791610
>that song

wew lad

>>13791610
>Together with this belt of courage
>Kamen Riders grab their belts
>Close up on Diend, grabbing his belt

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>>13791622
>It's a shame justice is trash

>>13791525
You mean Kiva

>>13791574
He did, and then fixed it about ten episodes after he showed up.

>>13791662
Not even Kamen Riders want to fight for justice any more.

It's dead, let it go, gramps.

>>13791213

Gou got better too, it just took him a REALLY long time to come around.

>>13791482

He says he needs the sugar to keep his mana up.

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>>13791680
>It's dead, let it go, gramps.
Never

>>13791704
Gou was a badass when he got introduced, then they turned him into a robo-racist with daddy issues.

>>13791707
So basically he's a diabetic?

>>13791680

Kamen Riders ultimately fight for humanity's freedom, rather than exacting justice.

>>13791714
He has a kun-dish-un!

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>>13791610
That's part of a larger, live musical stage show they did back in 2009. It sorta connects to the "All Riders vs. Dai-Shocker" movie, though more in a promotional sense than a story one. A number of the original actors voiced their characters in it, too (Ouja, Kickhopper, Punchhopper, Momotaros, Kintaros, IXA, Kivat).

The Rider Prison scene is the best part. Ouja and Kintaros do a comedy routine, and so do the hopper brothers. Also, Diend has a musical number where he summons a bunch of secondary riders in top hats to dance with him.

>>13791712

Did you miss the part where we point out the "badass" persona was just an act?

>>13791728
No, they're not what they seem.

>>13791723

Oh man please tell me there's a place I can watch this.

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>>13791610
Wait you guys have musicals too?

>Orga and now Kaixa's actors are dead
Why does life hate Faiz?

>>13791732
KITsubs subbed it a while back. I'm not sure where you can download it now, but I watched it through a facebook link (better than nothing).
/HenshinFever/posts/122103761227293

Also: fair warning, the Kuuga in this is Decade's Kuuga, and his characterization can be really irritating.

>>13791739
Those are probably men under those masks.

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>>13791728

>>13791765
Kaixa's actor is still very much alive, anon. He's even voicing Kaixa in the most recent Battride game.

>>13791732
>>13791768
Here you go

https://mega.nz/#!rVhTQJDQ!lIomuxVNo6slGAJiaeHIQcbUQffW-Y6xRZ5ylVMRsxw

>>13791765
Got a source for that?

>>13791786
This subbed?

>>13791795
Says Kitsubs in the file name.

I assume so.

>>13791610
>>13791723
Oh wow, this is Decade's Live Show, we just got one for Ghost where Necrom appeared. I remember this so well. I was a Shocker Combatman in the introductory portion where they're all dancing. This was also one of the few times I actually donned a Rider suit: G3!

Den-O Sword Form's stuntman was a long-going one for stage shows, he's a pretty great guy who's Takaiwa-levels of good. He still does stage stuff only, though, I think. It's sort of nonsequitur to mention him but he's usually the first person I remember when I think back to that stuff.

>>13791773
It's actually mostly women.

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>>13791726
He wasn't even really acting badass, he was just massively exaggerating his normal personality to try and keep Kiriko and Shinnosuke from worrying about and questioning him. Once things start going way different from what he wanted, we start to see how terrified and immature he really is. For me, that's what makes his growth so satisfying

>>13791821
mostly?

>>13790855
>>13790862
Isn't that where they filmed the scene where Tendou transforms for the first time?

>>13791843
Including baddies, of course. A couple of times one of the stuntwomen would get sick, however, and they'd ask for just someone from the Sentai or Rider shows if they would mind filling in. It's in our contracts (At least up until Wizard) that we're basically all understudies for each other anyway. So while most of the time (At least ninety nine percent) there's women under those masks, there's a small chance there's a guy.

>>13791821
I should just note since I realized how specific the wording sounded: This was one of the few times I actually donned a Rider suit and went on stage with it.

Generally everyone involved is encouraged to dress up in whatever suits they can in their free-time just to get a feel for them and get adjusted. Usually it's main Rider suits, but also monster and grunt suits and suits of older Riders. Since you never know if you're gonna get a choice in what you wear, you may as well at least be experienced in what you're likely to wear.

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How did Toei manage to top itself by making The Next worse than this garbage?

>>13791904

Toshiki Inoue.

>>13791887
Which is hardest to see out of?

>>13791932
It's pretty subjective for stage show stuff compared to live stuff, because they often design them with more visibility in mind, with only lighting really making things difficult. So it really just depends on the time of day. With that in mind though, for me it was a tie between Decade and Diend for most lighting.

Drive Saga : Chaser ending song
https://a.tumblr.com/tumblr_o1fu8dDn7g1uq8a3ro1.mp3

>>13791993
Was it sung by the guy who sang W, Surprise Drive, and Re-Ray?

>>13792003
I think so, yeah.

>>13792012
Would've preferred a little more Re-Ray and a little less W desu.

>>13792003
Yep, that's unmistakably Matsuoka's voice.

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>>13791993
Chaser's theme is lot more solemn than I expected. I like it.
>>13792003
Mitsuru Matsuoka? Yeah sounds like it.

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>>13791739
Please god no.

AAAAAND HERE WE GO WITH PART 5 of SftBSiRH today we got Kabuto! Only two songs so go ham!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qpKfsvJz1khvgjlV3As3V145FXj1vUxFQy-kJpYgr4A/viewform?fbzx=-1587989497979895684

Which Phase 2 Heisei had the best movie?
http://strawpoll.me/6631498

>>13792061
Either W or Drive, the rest are either forgettable or fucking terrible

>>13792061

If I had to rank them, it'd probably go something like

>W
>Drive
>Fourze
>Wizard
>
>
>POWER GAP
>
>
>Gaim
>OOO

>>13792061
Gaim obv who doesn't love soccer?

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>>13791993
tfw Toei literally reused a song from an older album for Chase

>>13792071
Just wait until it turns out that the bad guy is yet another repainted apple arms.

>>13791993
Whats the name of the song?

>>13792070
Soccer is a pretty cool sport.

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>>13792078
>Apple Arms poorly duct taped to a Roidmude suit

>>13792113
>3 Overlord Roidmudes.
Basically a trio of the Bat, Spider and Cobra Roidmudes each wearing the Apple Arms, sans the headpiece.

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Does anyone have a link to the Ghost x Drive song? You know, the one ONE FINGER made?

>>13792157
https://a.uguu.se/nzukll_1finger.mp3

>>13792162
>https://a.uguu.se/nzukll_1finger.mp3
Cool, thanks. This the wedding theme then.

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Kaigan!

>Future Rider OP MV get's released
>It has just enough weird elements for normal people to love it even if they can't understand it (Like Gangnam Style)
>The release online gets millions apon millions of hits
>Then people find out it's the opening to a show
What happens?

>>13792205
People just listen to the song and ignore the show cause it's "some stupid chinese kids show or something"

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>>13792177

DORAGON

Anyone have a video of Drive's cameo in Gaim's soccer movie? I wanted to watch the whole movie but I kinda just wanted to see that

>>13792217
Didn't have one

Drive was never shown in anything until his show started.

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This is pretty nice

>>13792249
It'd be better without the ugly logo on the side of it

>>13790885
Except that probably the entire idea was that his bike transforms into the hoodie. Probably since the concept art stages. I can imagine two wheels splitting into four turbines was seen somewhere in the initial plans and they went with that.

Speaking of which, I've only ever seen concept art for for like... Kuuga. Do they ever release more recent concept material? I'd love to see the original visual ideas for things like Gaim or Ghost.

>>13792265
We've seen final concept art for Gaim. Seems like Yomohetsuguri and Lord Baron were actually planned for.

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So did they explain why Houdini was Makoto's bike? How he acquired the bike in the first place?

>>13792069
Why to people still thing A/Z is so good? Honestly it was WAY over hyped for me, and it kind of ruined my experience with it. I was always told it was the best, but when I watched it myself, I didn't really like it that much.

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>this ringing noise in Ryuki
Please tell me they tone it down at some point.

>>13792285
Anon, you might have tinnitus.

>>13792260
Photoshop nigga, it's pretty simple

>>13792069
OOO Wonderful is fine, you must be thinking of Movie War Core. It's certainly better than the Fourze movie which was just the fucking Satellite of Love.

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>>13790350
Nagura returned for Erika and Nao and sung Tsutto Tsutto with them on their last stage.

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>>13792297

I didn't even do this with Photoshop. MSPaint man.

>>13791714
He converts calories into mana, he doesn't just need sugar to do it, he just prefers plain sugar doughnuts because they're high enough in calories and easy to get, doesn't hurt that they're his favorite.

>>13792305
>all those oba-sans
No wonder they are going to retire them.

>>13792317
Haruto strikes me as the kinda guy who'd eat Shredded Wheat for breakfast, and nothing else.

>>13792282
It's still not as good as the show, but as far as Rider movies go it's about as good as they get. What would you say is better?

>>13792285
Haha nope. Ryuki's my favorite show and that sound still fucking triggers me.

>>13792304
Oh you mean the movie where they all get paid to get samurai haircuts for the lulz? And the villain is a tranny? And there's a random kid sidekick? No, that movie fucking sucked.

>>13791076
I always imagined Daguva's rider form being more like the Kuuga equivalent of v3 to Kuuga's Ichigo, the belt being a double arcle and possibly even having green eyes, for a more shadowmoon-like color scheme

>>13792331
Also Eiji jobs like a bitch throughout the entire movie

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Who is the most underappreciated Rider in all 45 years of history?

I say Blade, it seems like nobody remembers him

>>13792362

>Double Arcle
In that case, no Gouram for Kamen Rider Daguva

I just watched Ghost episode 13. Although that one just made me confused about the Ganma. They had the Sword Ganma returning and using Sasaki Kojiro's personal technique.

I thought they'd be avoiding direct references to the historical figures tied to the Ganma and that's why they are named just after the summoning object, but if they're going to be using unique stuff like that they should just have been named after the historical figures themselves.

The show itself seems to basically avoid using their official names too, due to how goofy naming them after objects is...

>>13792331
It still has some of the best fights in recent Rider history, and Eiji as Birth is at least interesting. Better than Wizard's shitty movie (which also had a "tranny" if that's a peeve of yours).

>>13792326
Wouldn't doubt it, considering he has to eat a lot throughout the day.

>>13792382
>blade
>underappreciated
>gets new meme videos all the time

>>13792419
that's basically mockery

>>13792420
>If I don't like it it's mockery
Everyone in Japan loves those videos. They don't do it with the intent to mock the show or anything, it's just usnig lines they find funny or ridiculous and making something entertaining out of it further.

Same shit as Gachimuchi.

Which Rider is the sawft-est?

>>13792431
>sawft-est

Is this some new dank meme?

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>>13792382

>>13792431
>sawft

Reigns is winning the Rumble, and I want to see the bullshit they do to make this possible

>>13792443
Nah, just a question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edd2l1Smblg

Not everything is a meme, Anon.

>>13792447
He will be knocked out for the majority of it and then seize an opportunity when Lesnar tries to eliminate Haitch.

>>13792445
Skyrider deserves the hate.

>>13792447
You not ready to fly, Anon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S1wdfcuRrs

>https://twitter.com/DaBeardedMonkey/status/691377718890471425
How would you make fun of Surprise Future?

Which Rider is the dankest?

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>>13792465
I wouldn't

>>13792466
Agito, dude is blazed all day

>>13792455
All Showa Riders deserve what they get. He seems no more or less bland from Stronger, Rider 1, Amazon etc.

>>13791563
I liked Date and Gotou as characters but Birth as a rider was pretty shit
Conversely Meteor was a pretty cool rider but beyond having good taste in girls Ryusei did nothing for me
I thought Baron was sorta lame too in general too

>>13792412

That was the crossover movie, Ultimatum.

>>13792455
his show wasn't so great (what showa series was tbqh) but Hiroshi himself is fine

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>>13791112

>Lightning = Mighty
>Wood = Dragon (With Whip)
>Void = Pegasus (Still a Bowgun?)
>Metal = Titan (With Warhammer or Battle Axe)

>>13790494

I've noticed that a jet flying by to punctuate "dramatic" scenes seems to be a thing Inoue likes. It is a j-drama cliche or just him?

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>>13792508
>what showa series was tbqh

Stronger, motherfucker.

Amazon and the original series (what I've seen of it) are pretty good too. I thought V3 was kind of boring, but I only got about 20 episodes in.

>>13792509
Ugh, it's legitimately hideous. It's so fucking bulky and gaudy when the Ultimate was as slick as the devil in a black suit.

>>13790729

>that jammin' BGM that almost sounds like it's going to turn into an insert song during the Houdini fight

Quit teasing us Toei fuck

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>>13792509
>We could've gotten a pimp ass cape instead of the spikey mess that Rising Ultimate was

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>>13792521
>meme shows

Oh boy here we go again

>>13792521
You're the same faggot who praised Kabuto a few threads ago, so you have no right calling anything a "meme show"

>>13792528
Kabuto is a good show but it's also goofy as fuck, I can admit that just fine

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>>13792527

>Meme shades

>>13790742
Aran could go either way, he's yet to actually do anything

>>13792517
Ten-Faced Demon arc of Amazon was genuinely pretty engaging stuff. The Emperor Zero (or whatever he was called) arc was pretty dull by comparison, aside from Moleman's death and that when scene at the end where Amazon looks like he's fighting a KKK member.

>>13792531
No, it's a meme show filled with terrible writing, inconsistent characters, and the shittiest protagonist of the Heisei era aside from maybe Kouta.

Go shitpost elsewhere.

>>13792532
I fucking love Formula. It's dumb as fuck while still being stylish as hell and that makes it 10/10 for me.

>>13792537
> terrible writing, inconsistent characters, and the shittiest protagonist

you can say this about a ton of Rider shows

especially Showa, Stronger was literally the Kabuto of its day

>>13792537
>shittiest protagonist of the Heisei era

No, that's still Wataru.

>>13792541
>Stronger was literally the Kabuto of its day
Que?

>>13792537
>and the shittiest protagonist of the Heisei era
why does Tendou trigger so many people on here
Him & KaGAmi function really well as joint leads together, saving each other when one goes down a shitty path

>>13792541
>Stronger was literally the Kabuto of its day
Stronger was a confident man who prided himself in "out-smarting" Black Satan and was greatly humbled by the death of a close ally.

Kabuto is a smug asshole who never changes, improves, or becomes likable. Literally everyone except his sister and Kagami (Who is a retard) hates him.

>>13792555
The majority of /krg/ don't like it when a protag is confident in themselves. They like whiny bitch boys.

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>>13792553

I guess he means how they pull bulshit out of nowhere. Tendo with things like the Hyper Zecter time stuff, and Shigeru has electricity powers basically being able to do anything.

>>13792537
I thought Kagami was a great protagonist. :^)

>>13792560
Speak for yourself. My favorite protagonists are Takumi and Tsukasa, both of which ooze confidence. The difference is they at least improve and become likable and have a change from the first and last episodes that are more than location.

>>13792556
>never changes

So you didn't watch the show or just completely ignored everything regarding Hiyori then. Got it.

>>13792573
Name one difference from the first episode of Kabuto and the last episode of Kabuto for Tendou that isn't just "He's now in France and has one whole friend."

inb4 you use Hiyori being a worm as an attempt at it being Tendou's character development. His edgy evil clone is more well-developed than he is.

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>>13792561

And it's pretty hilarious.

>that time he escapes from certain death by fire in a crematorium
>asked how he pulled off that bullshit
>"Like I'd tell you!"
>kicks everyone's ass regardless

>>13792568
>Takumi
>ooze confidence

Not really the description I'd give to him. A lot of his character arc involves him looking for a reason to give a damn about being Faiz in the first place. That's not the same as "confidence".

>>13792577
>Legit getting worried over Hiyori
>Actually thinks of a plan to save her rather than bullshit his way through everything
>Starts him on his way of wanting to protect people, not just because he can, but because he should

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>>13792556
Kabuto spent like a third of the show being completely delusional about saving Hiyori and needed Gatack to slap his shit in to snap him out of it.

I wouldn't want every protag to be like Kabuto but he was a refreshing change of pace and had plenty of fun interactions with other characters. I do think Decade was the same general character concept done in a more engaging way though.

>>13792567
It is pretty hard to be worse than the guy who attempted a time travelling self-abortion to please his notgirlfriend, yeah.

Otoya was too cool for that show, man.

>>13792582
When he does start to take things seriously, he masks it under what can be construed as confidence, maybe cockiness. Don't forget his fighting style revolves a lot of flamboyant and toying gestures, even in situations where if he takes any longer people are gonna start dying.

>>13792561
Other than the green sun bullshit, I can only remember Tendou using the hyper zect's time powers once to save Kagami. I wish he pulled more bullshit with it.

Tendou is a shit protagonist and he negatively effected my enjoyment of Kabuto.

>Close to final episode.
>Introduction of worm detecting necklaces.
>K, something sinister is going on.
>Tendou just decides to fuck everybody's shit up.
>Kagami and co. think he's turned evil.
>Okay, maybe he'll explain why to Kagami, they're cool now right?
>Nope, lel.
>Let's Kagami fuck him up and nearly kill him, THEN tells him whats going on.

Ehy? He does this multiple times too.

Just tell them whats going on you annoying fuck. It's even worse as the audience because the entire motivation behind his character feels like one long series of ass pulls that get increasingly absurd as shit goes on. I can't stand him.

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>>13792556
I actually wish Stronger had met the other Riders before Tackle's death. It could have been interesting...

It's also kind of a shame that he drops his speech after her death, although at least he's back to doing it in Skyrider.

>>13792599
>Don't forget his fighting style revolves a lot of flamboyant and toying gestures
His fighting style wasn't flamboyant at all, it was parry-based.

You want flamboyance, look at Eiji and his constant twirly ballet fighting style.

>>13792601

Well, he only actually time traveled once, but there was also that (really badly directed) delayed shot thing, the sun eclipse portal, the "infinite evolution" = Perfect Zecter out of nowhere.

>>13792605
He wanted to see if he could trust Kagami. Don't forget he was working with ZECT and the Natives.
Tendou is a man that respects strength, the only way he could figure out if someone is trustworthy is by fighting them.

>>13792608
>His fighting style wasn't flamboyant at all, it was parry-based.
Check out how he moves around when using the Faiz Edge, particularly when he gets rid of it in Paradise Lost. He practically skips to center stage, twirls, and tosses the damn thing away before squatting down.

Hell, it's a pretty confident move to immediately squat in the middle of fights, which he does all the time.

>>13792605
He started acting there before he knew what was going on though, so he had nothing to explain aside from saying that he felt like it.

By the time he actually discovered what was their plan, he had already hurt Tadakoro and Renji (or whatever was the name of that shadow girl), so Kagami was furious and didn't want to hear him.

>>13792382
Fucking Agito. Everyone gushes about Kuuga when Agito was basically better in every way.

>>13792617
I'm an idiot, I thought you were talking about Kabuto's fighting style. Disregard my post.

Yeah Faiz was cocky as hell fighting-wise.

>>13792605
It was equally fucking retarded that Kagami couldn't trust him in the second/third to last episode after all the shit they had gone through together. Tendou deciding to let a paper napkin do the taking for him was dumb yeah, but it felt like several steps backwards for Kagami to start distrusting Tendou again when they were closer than ever a moment ago.

>>13792625
Yeah but from Kagami's perspective Tendou just started fucking up all of ZECT's shit, why would he trust him if he's doing that? If he wanted his trust so badly he could have just told him what he was doing.

>>13792605
I got recommended to watch Kabuto as my first Rider back in around 2010. "Don't watch W, it's too good and will ruin everything else for you. Watch Kabuto, it's a great sampler for Rider as a whole." Holy fuck does that reflect badly on Rider in 2010.

Having now seen everything after Kiva as well as Kuuga, Agito, Faiz, Kabuto and Den-O, I can safely say that the only Rider I've seen that was worse than Kabuto was Wizard. It is such an utter mess of a show that it baffles me why people recommended it beyond "the suits and effects are good". Which they are, even today, but Kabuto's characters and plot are just this horrible mess.

>>13792622

Kuuga does some things better (the finale, for example), but Agito is paced much, MUCH better and has a really fun dynamic with the different RIders that Kuuga didn't.

>>13792648
And Agito's actor actually likes Rider and is willing to return when he can.

Anywhere I can find Aesir's typeset scripts for OOO 22-31? They aren't at http://aesir.tokusatsu.tv.

>>13792658
Too bad they haven't brought him back aside from a 5 second cameo in All Riders vs Dai-Shocker...

>>13792658


Has Shoichi's actor done anything else in acting since the series? Or is he one of those guys who never made it big and doesn't do acting anymore.

>>13792658
No matter how hard /krg/ tries, nobody will ever hate Showa as much as Joe Odagiri does.

>>13792636
Because ZECT had been extremely shady and questionable in their action since the first couple of episodes, while Tendou's directive has always been fuck shit up first, explain later. The whole segment felt like it could have been handled better regardless of who was being less stupid.

>>13792648
Neither finale was very good. Kuuga had a form we'd never seen before against a kaijin we'd never seen before, and all they do is punch each other with some squibs for blood. The snow was cool but that's it. Everyone says it's so fucking gritty and realistic, but it just felt weak. They were very clearly 100% out of budget.

>>13792665
Joe Odagiri was Heisei you fuckwit.

>>13792672
He hates both Showa and Heisei, Anon.

>>13792672
He hates Showa so much that he only agreed to the role when they told him it would destroy the image Kamen Rider had until now.

>>13792671
>and all they do is punch each other with some squibs for blood.

That fight was fucking brutal and that's why it was so effective.

>no music
>no fancy fight choreography
>just the two most powerful people on the planet beating the shit out of each other trying to outlast the other

>>13792647
Yeah, the suits and action were top notch and I really liked some of the characters like KaGAmi, but the rest of it is a mess.

>Where did the punch and kick hoppers comes from?
>Why were they introduced when they don't do anything for the rest of the show?
>Why did one of them turn out to be a worm?
>What was that Bee tattoo shit about?
>Why did Drake disappear for half of the show, come back, and then never appear again?
>What was up with the dark kitchen arc? Amusing, but ultimately pointless.
>How and why did Tendou keep managing to join and leave ZECT randomly?
>Who was that razor wire woman? Why was she in the show?
>Fucking everything about Dark Kabuto and his stupid bullshit dark realm, fuck right off.
>Kagami's father problems never really getting resolution.
>Why did ZECT choose/predict Kagami and Tendou would retrieve the zecters? What was all of that shit in the secret underground bunker?

>>13792680
>he only agreed to the role when they told him it would destroy the image Kamen Rider had until now
This line is so fucking misused it's got a Hallmark movie about its abuse

Takatera convinced Odagiri that the plan for Kuuga was not to "Destroy the old image of Kamen Rider," but to "Turn it into something modern and new." To fix any of the questionable issues with older shows, like long poses and calling attacks.

>>13792689
>>Why did one of them turn out to be a worm?

Did you not watch the show?

>>13792686
>the two most powerful people on the planet
Show, don't tell. We have no frame of reference for why either of them is powerful at all. The only thing of note Daguva's done is kill the bat. We've never seen Ultimate Kuuga before, just heard a lot of mystical mumbo jumbo.

>>13792693
Yes, I did otherwise I wouldn't be asking. What was the point? It was never foreshadowed and had no bearing on anything.

>>13792694
Given prior to that, Kuuga at his halfway point was able to kill a monster capable of creating nuclear explosions and literally every Grongi was terrified of Daguva, it's a very easy idea to infer.

>>13792696
There's a reason why, and it's explicitly told to you why.

>>13792701
Well enlighten me then, because I must have missed it.

>>13792689
Lol you forgot the red fucking shoes system. Just a random excuse for a rider fight that basically never came up again.

>>13792702
The necklaces, you dope. It was Natives entire plan.

>>13792703
It came up as one of the reasons that Riku Kagami was deposed and killed by the Natives, since he was behind the system.

>>13792696
Aibo was wearing one of the necklaces so he could look cool for big bro. Then he turned into a native.

>>13792696
Holy shit anon he was wearing the fucking necklace that turned everyone who was wearing them into worms

>>13792694
Daguva scared the shit out of everyone, killed the remaining 150 Grongi by himself, set Godai on fire with his mind, etc. He was a massive threat without having to rely on pyrotechnics.

>>13792714
>>13792704
>>13792716
Oh, right. I completely purged anything about them from my mind after I finished it. Goes to show how relevant they are I guess.

>>13792689
>Where did the punch and kick hoppers comes from?
Mishima accuses Riku of doing it. Riku denies, but it's clear that he's lying. Writing material confirms that it was Riku.

>Who was that razor wire woman? Why was she in the show?

Replacement lead actress after Hiyori's role was diminished due to her sickness. Story-wise, a Zect member sent to observer Tendo but starts admiring him. Still, due to being a forced addition and not being a Rider, she didn't have much of a role either. They really should just have made her a female Bee since no one else had the Zecter by that point, but as I understand it the Bee, Drake and Sasword bombed, so Bandai likely didn't want more screentime wasted with them.

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>Peachy have Kuuga scans

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Daguva isn't really that scary

>>13792722
TheBee had a fucking gorgeous suit though.

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>>13792735
The only thing I found scary about him was the child like laugh

>>13792727
Yes but everyone else is posting hot Rider people

I am starting at V3 as first kamen rider series
smart or dumb?

>>13792757
very dumb

>>13792744
When you read and look back Linto also doesn't have the concept of "killing" in the first place. It's like went into a bar and have a good time to them.

>>13792767
how is it very dumb?

>>13792757

Starting with a Showa Rider isn't necessarily a bad choice (I started with Amazon), but I didn't much like V3.

If you want an older series, I recommend Stronger, Amazon or Black. I WOULD recognize the original Kamen Rider series itself, but we've only got it subbed up to episode 44 right now.

>>13792798
Don't worry at the current rate it'll be all done in 50 years.

Who's watching the Royal Rumble in an hour? Is there any Rider that can defeat Roman Reigns? Remember, the odds are against him!

>>13792809
I know nothing about the event.
Cena will win.

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>>13792735
I'm so disappointed they cut W's (vs Black Cross King) and Daguba's scenes out of the movie. I really wanted to see their fighting scenes.

They apparently had recorded scenes for a Director's Cut but decided against releasing it, since Osamu Kaneda had already moved to another movie.

>>13792798
Thanks for the recommendation.
I am downloading amazon right now and think I will continue with stronger after

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>>13792864

Have fun, man. If you like rubber monster suits and goofy ass fights, you're in for a treat.

>>13792858
More like Toei came to a conciseness that DC weren't selling as much they thought it would. The last DC we got was Fourze's Cosmic debut, and that sold only 300 units.