Would Build Fighters Try have been better if Sekai's Jigen

The show as a whole would have been better if it had some emotional meaning behind it and wasn't a hastily produced cash-in on something that was unexpectedly popular.

Also maybe a completely different ridiculous martial arts finisher every week would have been cool.

>>13634345
It would have been better if they removed assimilation, gave a shit about choreagraphy rather than just making everything a colony buster, give some kind of internal logic to how plavsky particles work and how you can "run out" other than it being a complete plot convenience, not fuck us over with the Full Cloth fight, reduce the number of "rivals", featured more non-gundam suits from different series and actually develop Fumina and Glasses-Sei before 3/4 into the series.

It's beyblade with mobile suits how hard is it to make everything in between not stupid?

>>13634345
It would've been better if Sekai actually used martial arts.

>>13634403
This, I don't know how /m/ feels about Red vs Blue or other RT shit animated by the late Monty Oum, but he did awesome martial arts choreography. If we could have had that, that would have been amazing. Instead we get Sekai screaming CHICKEN HOW ARE YOU every time and the same stock footage of the fist rotating and then massive explosion.

>>13634345

No, because it's still utterly broken bullshit.

I think what is more important is caring about the Burning. We should give a shit about the main suit, but it barely seems like Sekai does most of the time

Chicken how are you just needs completely reworked. It wasn't as much a style but something to shout, the majority makes zero sense outside of gunpla battle

>>13634385
Fumina had development?

>featured more non-gundam suits from different series
This. When everyone is special, no one is. When everyone has got a gundam head then being a gundam becomes meaningless

>>13634432
>Fumina had development?
She resolved herself into not just being a useless support after talking to Lady or something stupid, who cares Lady Kawaguchi was a pointless character anyway, Meijin isn't a gendered title to begin with.

>>13634467
Where did she even come from? Who actually is she?

Really feels like some board executive went "what? a girl can't look up to a man! Make a woman for her to look up to, and have them play gunpla on ponies!"

>>13634417
>other RT shit animated by the late Monty Oum
RWBY sucks dicks, I think anyone with taste can agree. That shit is for people who think they're too good to watch anime but love the terrible clichés and writing anyway. Also, yurifags.

>>13634345
It would be better without Sekai at all.
Should have been 2x2 battle with Fumina on the lead role.

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Try has a shitton of potential that it wasted.

Hell, they didn't even need to go to the world tournament, if it had stayed small-scale and used the time to develop the characters it had instead of shoving more and more new ones into our various orifices all times of the day.

Also, Sekai should have built his own Gunpla, not just found one built by Gunpla Jesus

>>13635072
Fumina/Gyanko/Shimon should have been the main team

Try needed to:
1) Not have 3 person teams. What's wrong with 2v2? It works great for Gundam VS and has justification with so many duos from the first season
2) Have better rival characters
3) Just... completely get rid of China's brother. That guy was a toolshed. Give sports bra some of his backstory if they wanna keep the "G Gundam VS the rest of the franchise" rivalry between Sekai and someone.

Try just needed to actually have tried.

>>13635107
Fumina is shit. Series should have been about Junya redeeming himself.

>>13634655
Don't all the girls have male love interests in that?

>>13635197
There are four male characters in relationships with female characters.

3 are hated.

One is a cardboard cutout with who, to date, has less than 15 total lines in the entire series.

>>13635197
>Series should have been about Junya redeeming himself.
pfffft

>>13634345
I would have much preferred if Shimon was the lead and was only in gunpla for his little brother.
Major boxing potential who could have gone to the olympics if he worked hard but dropped out after his little brother almost died during a match against his arch rival. The first ep should mirror Shimon and The maxtor getting into the ring and fighting against an opponent. At the end the Maxtor falls but Shimon holds his hand up victorious.

Sekai was the over the top shounen hero kid battler who worshipped meijin kawaguchi.
He also worshipped a masked duo of chuuni as fuck gunpla builders/fighters who had transforming gunpla that would combine, it's yuuma and minato. He's also, unbeknownst to the the little brother class babe/who had the typical hyper violent darkside that only the people she's fought against and Sekai know about.

Fumina is an over the top genki heroine who's WAY overenthusiastic about gundam and has a bunch of wierd gunpla that has all sorts of cray shit going on. Her latest is an SD that's basically just an over powered core fighter with independent bits that all have various functions and has a fullsized mode that lets her fight equally against other gundams. Something that makes the gunpla freak minato fall for her. That and smoking hot 20/10 pornstar tier body.
She also has clever sneaky plans that work brilliantly with Yuuma's back up and planning.

Yuuma is a world class builder who apparently just appeared on the scene a few years ago and after a few battles where he destroyed opponents absolutely refused to battle. Mainly because Minato called him out.
He's also a total 100% stuff shirt who's all about the rules and regulations and works dilligently.
But every once in a while he'll slip into his chuuni hero mode and do something crazy.

>>13634345
Try would have been better if Team Build Busters had been the main characters, especially since only having one robot in the Tryon 3 would have led to the fights being overall less bland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCIn18NPscw

>>13635272
No thanks.

>>13635203
Well of course they are hated. Yuri fans are going to hate any guy in the way of their pairing. I'm a yurifag myself but if I see male characters getting in relationships with the girls I don't force my opinion. I drop the series. Not that I ever watched this in the first place.

>>13635246
The three person format would not just be a boring as fuck 3v3 battle.
It will all be built around and depend on team tactics, planning, and the skill of players as players and builders.

It's going to be four team battle styles.

1.taking on gundam lore heavy scenarios and having to win certain battles complete certain challanges, Oft times it's just them vs an army, a base, or a boss.

2.Going against opponents in random stages and having to adapt their mobile suits or find new mobile suits altogether all while having to complete some objective. It's oft just a game of capture the flag, rescue the hostages, or get the plans.

3.Random sporting/skill based events. They have to out fly each other out shoot each other or they have little duels.

4.Free for all team and player vs team and player.

Seldom do teams go for a straight 3vs3 dual, it's an easy way for over powered and super talented to win, but you get the bare minimum of points meaning you'll have to battle more opponents to place, and you're generally looked down upon.

However it's perfectly acceptable and seen as a valid strategy to fight an opponent WHILE trying to complete a challange in a non free for all battle.

>>13634345
i dont get why they thought having the main gundam reference the least gundamy gundam by fighting in a way that is nothing like the majority of gundam besides being massively OP which completely changes the approach to fights gain in a way that doesnt feel like belongs in gundam, as well was a good idea. Especially considering they said that they were aware that people had a problem with build knuckle in the first series

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3 on 3 doesn't have to be bad, it's _the_ staple format of Mexican wrestling for decades. It's just bad booking that makes it bad.

>>13635383

The settings are A B and C

A is your gundam will more then likely be slag plus it has a high point multiplier meanging greater rewards.

B is mostly cosmetic damage with only minor damage done to the gundams actual shell. This has a multiplier as well but not as high as A

C is only virtual damage with no damage done to the gunpla whatsoever, it's also the flashiest and simplest mode to play. It's basically a simplified training wheels version. It has no point multiplier whatsoever.

The reason why the gunpla are destroyed at A level and has less damage as you go down is not just because of arbitrary limitations. It's because the yajima tech has enforced limiters in place so that you can't fully control the gunpla.
The artificial plavsky particles are both more powerful and far more dangerous then the natural plavsky particles from arisa.
The psionic mind body connection that allows for the control of the plastic toys through the machine also creates significant feedback into the player.
A fact that niels himself realized as he played hundreds of scenario.

All people would be able to handle the mild mental strain that comes from C and B but A would place a bit more strain the normal on certain suceptible individiduals. These individuals also had the ability to cause random affects within gunpla. Their imagination litterally controls the universe within that confined space.
A phenomenon Nils first witnessed at the end of GBF when the plavsky crystal reacted to the ideas of the gunpla enthusiasts and created a false a bua qu(sp?). Mass hysteria litterally brought an entirely new reality into the world.
A new universe constructed entirely out of imagination.

He put beyond strict controls on the system to keep that from happening again and is in the process of figuring out how to use this new theory to create a utopia for mankind. With the new GBF players across the world helping him understand the nature of nu-plavsky particle with each battle.

>>13634345
Nemesis should've have been introduced earlier. Give him some actual weight to the story "as that mysterious boy that occasionally helps Sekai train".
Also, reduce the repeated usage of the word "Rival".
And introduce more of the old characters too.

>>13635431
>People have a problem with build knuckle
>Let's make the next series MC ONLY USE AN EVEN LESS INTERESTING VERSION

On a scale of one to terrible, that plan is terrible.

>>13637059
Worse than that as they said they realised people disliked that and addressed it

>>13634345
If he never screamed attack names, I might've been alright with it.

>>13634345
Needed more incest.

>>13634345
Just removing Sekai would improve the show really. No more awful 3ve battles, no more stock footage chicken hpw are you, more room to develop Yuuma, Fumina and their rivals and people could actually talk about Gundam like in the first season.

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>>13635383

well this would require a lot more episodes than they where given but 3v3 could work if they went Shounen battle anime style and had the anime be a series of 1v1 best of 3 matches.

Hell you could even have the occasional 3 vs 3 or 2v2 fights to spice things up or the odd Game fights where they compete in non fighting things too.

Hell in this setting a villain who can take 3 on 1 would be pretty damn exiting too.

>>13634417
Monty's fight choreography is one of the worst things about his animations because he has no sense of weight or tension. Even ignoring RWBY, just look at his work on RvB. Every fight had the same thing-- whoever was outnumbered would always have a more decisive victory. Sure, it made sense when Tex was fighting the Reds and Blues, but the opposite does not apply-- why are the Reds and Blues able to beat an Army of Tex, just because they had the most incompetent Freelancer and Carolina?

>>13640327
He was more flash than substance and that is what people like. They don't care about tension or weight. They just want to see people smashed into stuff and lots of explosions and posing. Has the choreography gotten better since he passed?

>>13640331
Significantly.

>>13640327
I guess my point was more that it looked fast and martial-artsy instead of just long buildups to single punches.

>>13640327
>Even ignoring RWBY, just look at his work on RvB.

All I remember is thinking it was fun

and then it took itself serious

and then it wasn't funny anymore

>>13635203
I think some of the hate has been taken off the monkey boy though.

>>13634345
I honestly think it should have been 2 vs 2 rather than 3 vs 3.

>>13640377

Well if you look at it as everyone jumping onto what Sei and Reiji did teams of two work well

>>13635107
>minato, gyanko, simon

>>13640530
>>13635107
Sorry, wrong comment

>>13635107
No, it should have been Sekai/Gyanko/Shimon.

With Minato/Fumina/Yuuma being the rival team.

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nothing to contribute

I just like how this worked out

Try could have benefited from a single, series-long villain. I seriously thought that's what Junya was going to be when we first started getting inklings of him, but we got stuck with Team Celestial Sphere instead. If they were going to insist on having Sekai be the MC, then they ought to have at least given him a final boss that had some meaning and connection to Jigen Haoryu, so that the final fight had some actual weight to it.

Hell, have (Not)Domon show up to see his students duke it out.

>>13640800
Not to mention they literally only met once and suddenly go muh rival this muh rival that.

Still no news on when the OVAs will be released?

>>13640935

Yeah. I try to be forgiving of Try because there are elements I genuinely enjoyed, but shoving Celestial Sphere down everyone's throats was really hamfisted. The only one with any genuine beef with them was Yuuma, and even then they tried to make Adou Saga seem less of an asshole than we'd been led to believe up to that point. I sincerely think someone lost the show notes after episode two, because whoever they'd intended to be in the Edge Master Gundam that wrecked kid Yuuma, it sure as heck didn't look like Saga.

>>13641259
Saga seemed pretty chill. Would hang out with and gunpla battle at low damage level

I expected his character reveal to be some asshole going around smashing little kids' gunpla not some overexcited manchild

>>13641564
>>13641259

Yeah. Yuuma was a bugger cunt from what we actually see

I still cannot believe just how much the fucked up in Try. S1 isn't a perfect show at all, it has some issues especially in the second half but damn if it isn' looking like a masterpiece in comparison.

>>13640935
>Not to mention they literally only met once and suddenly go muh rival this muh rival that.

Probably the single dumbest part of the whole season, and there's some stiff competition on that front. The best one was the two girls declaring each other as their rivals before they had even fucking MET. Rivalry should mean something, some personal grudge or tremendous respect, something that makes your blood burn. You can't just pick a random person on TV and go "that one, the one in the yellow mech, that's my rival now".

>>13643314
>Yellow mech

He deserves only death. Where my Blue Brothers at

>>13643314
This is why Gyanko as a rival would have been at least a bit better.
They clearly knew each other and werent that friendly to begin with.

>>13634345
No.
The show needed to dump the strict 3 vs 3 fight format.
The best episodes are the Full Cloth and Tryon 3 fights, because you really root for both of them. Celestial faggotry were just overpowered and ridiculous and I really wanted Lucas Nemesis to kick the shit out of them.
And Tryon 3 was just plain badass.