What the fuck is wrong with you /m/, we finally get a decent

>Hippocrates

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>>13622424
uwotm80

U fuckin wot

I'm the OG, mofo

How bout you shut the fuck up

>>13622424
Sadly agree with you, /m/ has turned into a mecha hipster board liking objectively shit shows like reconguista with its shitty gundam design, gundam seed, and gundam age, FUCKING AGE HOW THE FUCK.

>>13622424
Just because you didn't understand G Reco doesn't make it a train wreck.

>>13622564
>Just because you didn't understand G Reco doesn't make it a train wreck.
Stop this meme level shit

>>13622424

The show's mediocre, it's par for the course regarding Gundam as a whole.

How about they're both underwhelming shit.

>>13622564
Found the retard

>>13622557
/m/ has been a mecha hipster board ever since I started reading this board around 2011.

People fucking hate everything that isn't almost all hand animation and when it is, they'll defend it practically to death no matter how shit it is (see: G-Reco)

Seriously, this whole "must all be hand animation" hipster shit is just painful to read. It's obvious that when something that is just about all hand animation, but still shit their ego won't allow them to admit that the amount of hand animation doesn't make a shit show good or a good show bad.

I mean seriously, apart from the animation (and arguably designs) G-Reco GENUINELY was a complete train wreck.

>>13622643
THIS
/m/s now just a bunch of adhd riddled babbies who can't handle complex character drama, it's truly pathetic. They're only happy when they get there weekly laser shows trying to sell them toys.

>>13622666
i agree /m/ are idiots but using ibo as an example of their inability to handle 'complex character drama' is making me wanting to vomit.

>>13622666
>>13622690
Agreed but with my own opinions interjected

>>13622666
You won't fool me Satan, there's no character drama in modern Gundam!

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I wish they would just stop making anything other than OVAs so we could cut the fanbase off

Once again the IBO haters have no arguments and just respond with memes

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>an actual competent director

>>13622709

tell me how mikazuki seems human

he's like a cardboard cutout

the characters are only interesting because of difficult circumstances, other than that they are completely average animu archetypes which no one should care about

>Let's work together, family!
>Slavery is bad!
>Protect the princess!

>>13622708
It would just be OVA fanbase wars then

>>13622709

>Meets his long lost brother he just mentioned as an enemy pilot

>>13622726
>tell me how mikazuki seems human

He wants to build a farm.

>>13622734

at least it's so long in between episodes that most of the arguing goes away for awhile until the series is complete

>>13622739

>He wants to build a farm.

so does an ant

>>13622741
No, it would just mean the arguing lasts for longer because it takes more time for new series to come out

/m/ is just full of oldfags who think everything made after 1985 that doesn't directly reference or style itself after "the good old days" is shit.

>>13622784
38 year oldfag here. I love IBO, don't lump me together with the trolls that have obviously fooled you into believing up is down.

>>13622784

these oldfags sound smart and correct

also why don't you go back to /a/ my friend

>>13622799
>38
>oldfag
That's cute kid
I've been here on /m/ long before you were even a twinkle in your pappies eye

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>>13622748
>he doesn't think ants are human
How 'bout I slap you shit, son?

>>13622819
>/m/
>existing before 1977

I can tell you are older than me mainly because the senility has clearly set in. :^)

>>13622424
>IBO
>Acting human
Thanks for the laugh.

>>13622424
Basically /m/ became those guys from the zeon bar in build fighters and to some extent the twins who piloted the gm k9. Some take the hobby too seriously and get attached to what they're used to and never learn to move on from that while others learn to be more open with their anime and media selection in general.

Another thing I've observed is /m/en will reach to extreme lengths to convince others and theirselves that a show is good by reaching into even the most insignificant part of a show and explain how deep it is (see evafans and recofans)

>>13622424

Just basically have the opposite opinion as anyone on /m/ it works beautifully

>>13623025
I have expectations of Gundam because I watch tons of other things already. I don't get any value from inserting other anime cliches into it to make something more overall generic and half-assed.

It's the retards that are too attached to the Gundam name to watch anything else that like random bullshit in it.

>>13623025
I have a feeling that you don't know shit about /m/

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>/a/, ANN, MAL: Tem Ray

>/m/, Japan: Amuro

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>>13623025

>watching non-m anime

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>>13622424
>we finally get a decent gundam show helmed by an actual competent director for once.

The sad thing is that you are completely serious.

>>13622424
IBO would have been overlooked as average if it wasn't called Gundam IBO. It's just such a generic setting and story.

>>13623144
Yes this is how a human body with a jetpack would lurch and maneuver around in space.

>it's not detailed enough, Q-Q-Q-QUALITY

>>13623159
I like the part where it moves horizontally despite having no means of horizontal thrust.

>>13623159
>source: my ass

>>13623144
>aaand PELVIC THRUST! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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So does anything of interest actually hapoen or was I right to drop it and go back to the backlog after episode 4?

>>13623167
Don't forget the part where it fires its main thruster downwards and moves in the same direction.

Anyway I'm not going to condemn Gundam for improper space movement when it's been that way since 0079 and its Superman flight. It just has to look cool.

>>13623144
It's sad that Barbatos has never looked good when it wasn't in a still shot. Why did they pick such complicated designs when they couldn't afford to animate them? The answer: Bad Direction

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>>13623197
Has nothing to do with bad direction and everything to do with pic related.

>>13623177
You're pretty much fine dropping it.

>>13623183
The way the body lurches is the interesting part, at least to me.

>>13623177
>saved a picture of Drake on his computer
Any opinion you could possibly have of any form of art is invalid

>>13623177
Well, let's see, they went out into space, got in a fight with space gangster not-Fellini, made friends with space gangster not-Fellini, and now they're fighting a pigman and a steroid monster with a forked tongue....

Guess it depends on what you think is interesting.

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>>13623197
I'm sure they could afford it considering all the exposure Bandai's giving it compared to reco, it's just that the people working on do not seem to be bothered
>>13623216
Ever since I dropped this cartoon, you you you
You and me we just don't get along
You make me feel like I did you wrong
Going on boards where you don't belong..
>>13623241
To be honest I did find not!Ral quite promising at the beginning, but then he got killed off before they actually did anything with his character

>>13622424
>What the fuck is wrong with you /m/, we finally get a decent gundam show helmed by an actual competent director for once.
No really fucking didn't, IBO is the worst Gundam thus far and I'm counting Age and G-Reco into this

>>13622424
>an actually engaging interesting setting and story
I have to laugh my ass off at this because this series had nothing engaging or interesting in the slightest.
>with characters that actually seem human
Because murdering someone that was tied up was so human.
>>13622557
>"my mouth talks with dialogue"
Go back to /a/.

>>13623096
that's mot what I was getting at. you seem to be implying that the anime you've watched outside of gundam and mecha are cliched, but maybe it's your choice in shows

>>13623266
>I'm counting the two other gundam show's I've seen

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Find a flaw
Protip: there are none

>>13623279
I've seen the vast majority of the franchise, obscure SD shit and compilation movies included, IBO is definitely in the lower tier.

>>13623280
Doesn't stfu about how useless she is and hogs far too much screentime

>>13623284
It's not the absolute worst

>>13623216

>toy commercial

>>13623280

Ugly, plastic looking hair.

Way too much eyeliner.

>>13623280
She's not Japanese

>>13623296
I didn't say absolute worst, low tier SD entries are that, but non-SD wise this is a new low.
>>13623291
Seconding, even Lacus did more than her.

>>13623266
Says the dude that thought "no we really" but typed "no really". You niggers aren't using your brain box. Just try to prove it is the worst gundam for us. I'd love to read it.

>>13623299
I think your gay anon

>>13623025
/m/ somehow can't seem to understand that something that is flawed can still be enjoyable. I can't help but blame it on a certain part of /a/ for bastardizing 'trainwrecks' so now somehow you can only enjoy bad shows in an ironic manner.

>>13623304
but you literally did
> IBO is the worst Gundam thus far and I'm counting Age and G-Reco into this

>>13623274
>faggot greentexting a troll OP
>I'm qualified to comment on what is and isn't "human" on the future planet mars in a solar system with an active slave-trade
>something something /a/

>>13623316
Nigga you better not be implying ibo is flawed

>>13623316
oh ok let's hear the flaws rektofag

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>>13622424
You'd think people would be better at baiting in 2015.

Here's something to give some value to this thread.

>ITT: buttmad grectumsniffers stopped slobbering on tominos cock for 5 seconds, saw IBO and got jealous

>>13623337
Obligatory response for you, Rorschach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

>>13623277
>you seem to be implying that the anime you've watched outside of gundam and mecha are cliched
No, but by the time something gets thrown into Bandai's newest chuuni and fujo baiting mainstream cashcow it usually is.

I mean I enjoyed FMP a hell of a lot more as FMP than random parts of it in 00.

>>13623291
Nice meme

>>13623364
eh that's understandable, but I always assumed that's more of a thing caused by exec's wanting to make their product friendly to a "wider audience"

>>13623364
>I mean I enjoyed FMP a hell of a lot more as FMP than random parts of it in 00.
Not sure what's more pathetic? You enjoying FMP or you thinking it was remotely original.

>>13623348

making posts like this is how you are spending your life

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>>13622424
>decent
>gundam
theres you're problem. and besides IBO is boring. GReco was all over the place and 30 things happened an episode. look away for a minute and you notice they're in space all of a sudden. IBO look away for a minute its still princess complaining about being useless.

>>13623486
>GReco was all over the place and 30 things happened an episode. look away for a minute and you notice they're in space all of a sudden.
Found the retard

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>>13623490
you really think you'd understand GReco if you looked away for longer than 2 minutes? every line you need to hear to get everything anon.

>>13623391

FMP is genuinely a piece of shit while also being even more derivative than IBO.

>>13623291
>>13623304
So, at what point does she decide to learn to fucking do something?

I realize she's a motivational speaker or some shit, but it's clearly time for her to learn some practical skills. Maybe she'll become a doctor?

>>13623486
How is every minute of a show being used for important things and not irrelevant shit you could skip a bad thing now

>>13622424
The problem with IBO is how fucking predictable it is and doesnt bring anything new or fresh. I don't give a fuck what people say about G-Reco but it was one of the most fucking refreshing Gundam shows in a while, the problem with G-Reco was the pacing but at least gave use characters we could actually care for. IBO all the characters are forgettable, IBO is Gundam 00 but with out the good parts of it. It's boring piece of predictable shit.

At least the mecha designs of IBO are fanfuckintastic

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>>13623641
>At least the mecha designs of IBO are fanfuckintastic
they're meh at best.

>>13623641
>the problem with G-Reco was the pacing but at least gave use characters we could actually care

that's actually bullshit, G-reco had too many characters to keep track off for anyone to care about.

>>13623661
>not being invested in the incredible moving character arc of Chuchumy

>>13623661
>too many characters
mentally deficient anon detected.

>>13623661
Here's your reply

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>>13622424
>god tier designs

Both shows are equally shat on by /m/

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>>13622709
Here's your reply

>>13622424
>Hippocrates
Being a doctor sounds cool.

>>13622643
Yeah pretty much, I also hate how defensive its become, no more discussions its all whining and insults when people criticize a show.

Also I'd argue G-reco had charm as a strong point, it doesnt carry the show but there was personality there, too bad its wasted on what is easilly the worst written show in the series for me, die hard gundam fan and over the years ive been very forgiving with how flawed the shows can be, G-reco just lacked anything that made the series interesting for me but with all the things i hate about the series.

I just want another turn-A style gundam already, surprisingly IBO is the closest its come to it since with a slower pacing more focused on the characters and world.

>>13622726
Mika is cheeky as fuck when he needs to be, genuinely puts the well being of those around him over his own saftey both physically and emotionally, and is also flawed as a human due to his bloodthirst that nearly got him killed in the 2nd episode.

Mika is a human character through and through, his emotion is there just not in your face, i do wish it was a little more visible though cause only the action scenes really show them (showing nervousness when he was fighting and equal or worried about his comrades)

>>13623788
>too bad its wasted on what is easilly the worst written show in the series for me, die hard gundam fan and over the years ive been very forgiving with how flawed the shows can be, G-reco just lacked anything that made the series interesting for me but with all the things i hate about the series.
Found the retard.

>>13623096
Attatchment to name's are what really killed /m/ in recent years, like how much defense do you think G-reco would of gotten had tomino's name not been attatched, and how much shitposting would IBO not have if mari okada's name wasnt attached.

Well granted has mari only written like 2 or 3 episode of the show so far or something, i think this is clearly more in the hands of the director and his child more than hers

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>>13623788
>on what is easilly the worst written show in the series
>claims to be a die-hard Gundamfag
And this is why you should never take G-Reco detractors seriously.

>I just want another turn-A style gundam already, surprisingly IBO is the closest its come to it since with a slower pacing more focused on the characters and world.

We learn very little about the setting and cast, every episode is just the cast repeating what we already know.Turn A had an episode about trying to find a pig and that was more engaging than anything in IBO.

>>13623486
So thats a good thing? My big problem of why G-reco is my least favorite gundam was how schizophranic it was, it could never decide what it wanted to focus on and it got lost in a clustered mess

Compared to ibo X or turn A the shows took a slow burn to flesh out the character by showing them in actionless situations to show their human sides before getting into the action later on, the slow burn improves the pay off later.

>>13623788
>no more discussions its all whining and insults when people criticize a show.

>>13623797
>>13623817

lol love how these 2 flocked to prove your point, can we please ban these retards already, their posting patterns are identical and they shit up every thread they are in, they are the FFXV-kun of this board.

>>13623797
>>13623817
>on what is easilly the worst written show in the series for me
> for me

He's saying he didn't like it, not that it's an empirical fact. Take the stick out.

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>>13623807
>like how much defense do you think G-reco would of gotten had tomino's name not been attatched,
I'm not sure what's with these newshits coming through thinking that Tomino's name has ever been free of criticism considering the reception of Zeta, ZZ, and Victory.

>>13623817
>>claims to be a die-hard Gundamfag

Sorry your right, im not a die hard gundam fag, ive been masquerading around as one for 10 years but accidentally let it slip when i didnt like G-reco, time to go burn my copies of war in the pocket and turn-A cause I'm not a true fan anyway.

Christ what happened to the good old days where gundam fans didnt have a stick up their ass

>>13623831
He's not even criticizing the show retard, he's going on a rant against the people who liked.

>>13623836
How the fuck can you consider yourself a die hard Gundam fan and consider G-Reco the worst written when GSD exists unless you're just trying to be stupid.

>>13623807
>how much defense do you think G-reco would of gotten had tomino's name not been attatched

Considering how much shitposting he's subjected to on a regular basis here...the change probably wouldn't be as much as you're trying to present, though I see your point.

>>13623851
People here do praise those 3 series, ZZ is considered pretty underrated by alot of people and even victory to that extent, hell even fucking king gainer and brain powrd get defense here. Also zeta is anything but heavilly shit on, its more overrated by people than anything (still argue the first half as well as kammile are great but the 2nd half is kind of shit save for haman)

The only tomino show that has no defenders here is garzey's wing cause fuck that. Tomino has die hards who praise his stuff no matter what

>>13623866
You can stop pretending retard, you're just making yourself look more retarded.

personally, IBO I find the series fun, but is not masterpiece or anything close. To me the designs are ok, the characters somewhat interesting, but I feel like im watching MGS5 instead of playing it: moreover, I think that IBO is better than G-Reco since Reco felt super flat.
Also, why Sunrise doesn't release Crossbone Gundam? This always has been my qualm with them, so finally we have a legendary Gundam Series in action like back in the day.

>>13623878
Garzey's Wing is excellent, though.

>A MAN IS FALLING DOWN

>>13623878
>People here do praise those 3 series
People here shit on them as well so the notion that people are just praising it for his name is fucking inaccurate you stupid bitch.

>Also zeta is anything but heavilly shit on

It is, people constantly uses it as an example of Tomino's bad character writing and how it doesn't live up to the hype.

>Tomino has die hards who praise his stuff no matter what

He also has blind detractors like you he just hates his involvement in anything.

>>13623869
And you proved his point, he was claiming /m/ has become about whining and insults rather than discussion, 2 anons then proceed to do exactly that.

>How the fuck can you consider yourself a die hard Gundam fan and consider G-Reco the worst written when GSD exists unless you're just trying to be stupid.
Not even him but seed destiny is a better show cause G-reco has the faults of moving at a horribly rushed paced leaving a vast majority of the casts motivations lost in disaray and outright dropping many concepts early on such as the space elavator or most of the taboo. Seed destiny is trash but it is a far more structured show and even had some solid ideas and build up before the rewrites came along halfway through to make jesus christ incarnate kira take over as the MC.

>>13623885
>I think that IBO is better than G-Reco since Reco felt super flat.
Found the retard.

>>13623892
>Not even him but seed destiny is a better show
This is how shit /m/ has gotten.

>>13623891
>He also has blind detractors like you he just hates his involvement in anything.
and your allegiance has not been show that you are exactly the type of people im talking about, you just assume im some tomino director even though hes repsonsible for 2 of my favorite gundams (079 and turn-A) as well as one of my favorite mecha ever (dunbine).

G-reco, garzey's wing, and CCA are the only things from him i actively disliked. I hear L-gaim is pretty shit too but i have yet to watch. Anyway the point is fuck off of /m/ and let us go back to the glory days this board used to have without your shitposting.

>>13623892
>And you proved his point, he was claiming /m/ has become about whining and insults rather than discussion
>His and your posts are just whinning about people liking a show you hate
Oh the ironing

>>13623902
G-reco is a 3/10, seed destiny is a slightly higher 3/10.

If it makes you feel any better, Stardust memory is barely better than G-reco.

>>13623878
Brain Powerd was a great and moving show, it has its flaws, but it is worth it

>>13623915
Yes yes ANN G-Reco is bad and IBO is saving Gundam.>>13623916

>>13623913
>His and your posts are just whinning about people liking a show you hate
Nope people can like G-reco, there are some cool guys here who do that sadly get a bad rep cause of you assholes who make these baseless assertions as a defense mechanism.

>>13623641
This guy gets it, IBO can be flashy and shit but if any of the Tekkadan kids die no one will give a fuck.

>>13623905
He just fucking proved your dumbass wrong, the people who liked G-Reco liked Tomino and the people who hate it hates Tomino. To say otherwise is just retarded because people here has always had differing opinions about his work.

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>>13623925
>WAHHH PEOPLE ARE MEAN

>>13623788
>no more discussions its all whining and insults when people criticize a show.
As shown by every post underneath that one, but sadly this sums up why /m/ has become so shit in recent years, its sad but at least the non gundam stuff is still mostly safe, fafner threads are still fine too but i unfortunately see the same defensiveness too, the show has really started to show its cracks recently (wish it werent but it might of bit off more than it could chew) and some people seem to just not take to kindly to people pointing them out, not as much as in gundam threads but its a bit irksome how much damage control it can be at times.

Also I like both G-reco and IBO all the shitposters can fuck off i'm just actually enjoying this franchise instead of throwing pissy fits.

>>13623746
Alright, I admit, that actually made me laugh unironically.

>>13623926
Only if you're an autistic retard

>>13623925
>Nope people can like G-reco, there are some cool guys here who do that sadly get a bad rep cause of you assholes

This anon>>13623942 is one of the good ones, i hope you havent gotten shit because of those dumbasses that throw bitch fits every time the show is criticized.

>>13623641
>IBO is Gundam 00 but with all of the shit that made 00 unwatchable trash out of it.
All of 00 never got as good as episode 11 of IBO. 00 is just wing without any of the humor, style and competent mech design. Flags are the most hideous bullshit ever. The worst part is you nerds treat 00 like its fucking Asimov when really it's just the worst parts of SEED Destiny wrapped in the clean-picked carcass of wing. SEED is better than 00.

>>13623942
You fafner fags are just as bad as the rectards, always bringing it up for no fucking reason, no one cares about your shit show that's why no one watches it. And surprise surprise of someone whose taste is shit enough to be able the stomach cg shit and hirai fade at the same time, would be shit enough to like greco

>>13623941
This. Why are you detractors such babies? If you don't want to be called retarded stop acting like one.

>>13623969
>whose taste is shit enough to be able the stomach cg shit and hirai fade at the same time would be shit enough to like greco
>would be shit enough to like greco

>>13623942
>Also I like both G-reco and IBO all the shitposters can fuck off i'm just actually enjoying this franchise instead of throwing pissy fits.

Reading comprehension would help you alot.

>>13623959
>>13623969
>>13623961
>>13623951
So Valvrager likes IBO. Makes sense.

>>13623961
I'd argue that 00 S1 was better than Wing but S2 shat all over it.

>>13623969
That anon you replied to here, said i liked G-reco dumbass and fafner has a great enough story that i can enjoy it despite its poor character designs. I'm not that shallow.

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>>13623961
>All of 00 never got as good as episode 11 of IBO.
IBO is quickly becoming the Wing of the franchise, when revisited people will wonder why they liked or defended it.

>>13623997
Not that anon but id agree 00 season 1 is better than wing, but i cant look at 00 as two season but just 1 big 50 ep show. Wing is more flawed overall but i think wing is a rare show where its retarded moments actually benefit the show, its a batshit crazy show and it made it quite entertaining for the most part.

What this thread has taught me, there are good /m/ users left, theres just some vocal retards with too much time on their hands

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>thread

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>>13622424
I'm loving it, fuck the haters.
Enjoy what you like, and ignore people who act like you're obligated to prove to them why they should allow you to have a good opinion of it. You don't need to justify why you like something.

>>13624067
You anon are what /m/ users used to be like stay strong.

>>13624012
>IBO is quickly becoming the Wing of the franchise
But no one is randomly threatening to murder girls or turning on their own teammates every other episode. Everyone is actually acting like a sane and rational person, this does not resemble Wing in any way.

>>13623896
Yes, I found the retard on you.You did not explain why you dont like my opinion, but instead, you decided to be a fucking G-Reco fanboy.
Here is the problem with G-Reco, From the whole cast of chatracters in the show, I dont remember none of them, and that is a bad signal when you make an story because that means they dont have traits and personality attached to them. Let me give you an example: I hate Kira Yamato as a character since it was written like a Mary Sue, and he flip flop a lot of times in his way of thinking about war during two shows. Kira is a horrible character, but at least I can remember him; on the other hand, I barely remember anything about the protagonist of G-Reco. I dont even remember his name, and I will have to google it because as a character, he is super flat and uninteresting.
at least in IBO I know their motivations of both protagonists of Mikazuki and Orga, and what they want for themselves and for everyone else.

>>13624079
How about you read his post next time also
>Everyone is actually acting like a sane and rational person
Kek

>>13624118
>From the whole cast of chatracters in the show, I dont remember none of them
Well that's really your own fault and not the show's. All you've proven is that you didn't even try thus proving once again that everyone who hates G-Reco is retarded.

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>/m/ can't get along and not shit on mecha shows

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>>13624067
>You don't need to justify why you like something.
But we sure as fuck don't have to tske what you say seriously and in IBO case ot proves a lot since mostof the fanbase and people who praise it don't know what they're talking about.

>>13624158
>tske
*take

>>13623819
>flesh out the character by showing them in actionless situations to show their human sides

Like when Mika was asked if he was lonely after being left behind and he replied with "Yes, I'm lonely.", or when we learn about Guts' long lost brother. There's also those moments of contemplation with Kudelia that hit the same exact note.

>>13622424
I don't think even Sunrise likes IBO. Just look at the animation.

No passion! No excitement!

>>13624158
Jesus christ can you at least proofread your shit?

>>13624204
Being a grammar nazi in this day and age? Really?

>>13624175
The big moment that made me like mika was just that scene of him and kudelia right before they left for space where he was talking about how he wants to see the moon even if its destroyed.

I really like this cast because of these moments, especially that drinking episode where orga was showing his stress over being a leader. This has the potential to be one of my favorite gundam casts so i hope melodrama doesnt kick in or they start doing premature deaths

>>13624214
gammar r importent u know wiseother ew donot no wht we talken boot

>>13623795
Is that you Clawshrimpy?

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>/m/ is literally just shitflinging with a tiny trace of discussion
>go to /a/ to discuss the new episode
>everytime i bring up 0079 or anything before 2000's someone mentions how it looks shitty and old

I fucking hate Gundam

>>13624214
It really undermines your critique when it looks hastily posted from a mobile phone.

If you want people to read, the least you can do is make it not as difficult as possible for the reader.

>>13624230
Don't worry anon I feel the same.

>>13624143
I watch the whole series, but it is obvious that you dont know what makes a character. Also, it is the fault of the show if I dont relate to te characters, or if they are interesting. Since the Characters in G-Reco character were so flat and uninteresting that people don't care what happen to them, care about their aspirations and what they try to accomplish in the show/ movie you watch. If you want a reference, watch the RLM about Star Wars prequels. That might guide you to recognize a good protagonist from a bad one.

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>>13624230
well buddy i know the feels.

>>13624230
kek

>>13624226
>can't detect sarcasm

So yeah, it's best not to take IBOfags seriously.

>>13624230
>being over 25
>still watching animu
Go home gramps

>>13624227
I understood him just fine. Maybe you are just retarded.

>>13624229
Who the fuck is clawshrimpy?

>>13624230
Sad thing is ive had better dicussions for mecha recently on /a/ than on /m/, its been worse than /v/ recently.

>>13624280

That's because all the shutters from /a/ have been coming here since the start of IBO, same thing happened during Greco,

>>13624284
>it's not that /m/ is shit, it's /a/'s fault!

Come on
Get serious

>>13624284
No, no it hasnt, /m/ takes itself too seriously and dipshits shit up threads cause they cant take differing opinions. The worst part is this might be the only board that isnt self aware about its faults. And people like you hiding behind victim complexes are the big problem with the current state of the board.

It used to be good, its not anymore.

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>>13624280
>Sad thing is ive had better dicussions for mecha recently on /a/
>They're still talking about Comet Lucifer
>Fafner Exodus completely ignored
>IBO threads complete fucking shit filled with MALtards and shipperfags

You're gonna have to try better than that kid

>>13624302
>They're still talking about Comet Lucifer
Yep this alone means we shouldn't take them seriously, as bad as /m/ is it can always be worse.

>>13624302
Can you shut the fuck up about Fafner?

No one cares you smug shits.

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>>13623304
>even Lacus did more than her.
Don't tell me you think pop princess Lacus turning into Empress Lacus I of the Clyne Dynasty was a good thing.

>>13622708
I kek'd

>>13624310
You do realize they are talking about comet lucifer, but they are destroying the show and making fun of it. Also those threads are dying

>>13624302
/m/ is about the only place in which there's active discussion on Fafner Exodus in the west so I'm thankful for that. I can give less of a shit about IBO because its not good and seems to be doing what G-Reco couldn't in attracting retards which is why the discussions there are so terrible.

>>13624310
/m/ literally still talks about Cross Ange.

>>13624302
What about the concrete revolutio threads? Theres actual proper discussion and speculation while it gets outright ignored here

IBO is a decent show but an awful Gundam Show. If it dropped the Gundam Title from its name and focused on space combat ship to ship or some other method it would allow for more drama without forcing it to be caught in the stigma of being a Gundam series.

In the more highly praised series , the Gundam itself is a major set-piece and gets all the screen time and development as a major character of show, it has 'character arcs' of being an unknown element to the watcher, mid-season upgrades and even makes us feel a little sad when it's destruction is necessary for the completion of the plot. At very least they are centric and drive the plot of the show. Another 'Gear' has been revealed in the plot and we still don't know the significance of these old frames.

IBO is about Earth Princess and her Mars Boy Harem, as they misadventure they way back into Earth-space dogged by pirates, and with some not-so-fleshed out entities behind the scenes pulling the strings.Regardless of the focus on Mikazuki, he does not drive any of the plot his supporting characters are the leads. It feels like we're following a sidekick around. I had assumed he was blank-slate to allow him to grow as these things happen, but a character defining 'moment' hasn't really happened so far. Nothing to change his perspective or make the character feel as if he's progressed in an entire season.

The thing that bothers me the most is that alot of the 'plot potential' characters do not interact a lot , and the plot seems incongruous with itself. Seeming to cycle through tones, as if it's never settling and has this really awkward " OOH LOOK IM SETTING US UP" feeling with how loosely Gjallahorn is linking itself to this 'chase'.

The series itself hasn't really accomplished anything yet so I don't think it's fair to call it a bad series, but if this weren't to see a second season can you honestly say you'd watch it more than once?

>>13624323
So they're wasting their time making fun of a show nobody cares about or defends for no reason other than waifus. Why are they better than us again.

>>13624326
>/m/ is about the only place in which there's active discussion on Fafner Exodus in the west so I'm thankful for that

I've got the perfect place for you then:
>>>/reddit/

>>13624329
>literally

That's the first Ange related thread in months.

>>13624336
They are finding enjoyment in a show being bad rather than being overly serious idiots

This is how /m/ used to be when we had fun, valvrave was such a glorious shitstorm but we will never experience that joy again. Instead of having fun with both bad and good shows we jsut throw pissy fits and bitch instead. Thats why /m/ has gotten so much worse than /a/ and even fucking /v/ now.

I wish i could of watched aldnoah with old /m/, it would of actually been funny instead of people just complaining that argevollen wasnt getting viewers(despite also being horrible) and it being a 079 knock off.

>>13624331
I love ConRevo and I've posted in the few threads it's gotten here, but honestly I'd prefer to enjoy it on my own time rather than attempt to discuss it and see it get shitposted like everything else these days.

>>13624331
>outright ignore
There's a revolutio thread that's been up for a week here.

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>a board not dedicated to shitposting about mecha has a dearth of mecha threads

Shocking news.

Anyway if you want proof of /m/ being shit look no further than to the fact it now hates Infinite Ryvius even as Hiraiface tolerance is at its greatest.

>>13624334
this guy gets it 100%

>>13624348
Valvrave was a mess of idiots telling at other idiots for not enjoying things correctly.

Two years later no one realizes it's like one of if not the only example of gothic horror inspired mecha.

>>13624329
Yeah look at these /a/ retards still talking about cross ange
>>13556975

>>13624354
Surprisingly little to no shitposting, the only thing is really just people who dropped the show asking if it gets better which normally gets responses along the lines of "yes but its still niche and generally if you found it boring in the past it might not improve".

There have been some really small details that flew over my head that i learned through the ep discussions, shame that the show has so many small but nice details yet is bombing because of it. Most underrated show of the year.

>>13624363
I feel sick that people started bashing this show, its one of sunrise's hidden gems(in the west).

>>13624348
>They are finding enjoyment in a show being bad
That's not any better. Why would you purposely seek out bad shit just to complain about it as opposed to watching something good? There's nothing in Comet Lucifer that warrants any kind of discussion because it obviously shouldn't have been produced to begin with.

> This is how /m/ used to be when we had fun, valvrave was such a glorious shitstorm but we will never experience that joy again.

You have select memory because VVV was shat on while it was airing and wasn't given the same IM WATCHING THIS IRONICALLY bullshit that's a thing with anime fandom now that has let people unable to tell the difference between what's good and bad anymore.

>I wish i could of watched aldnoah with old /m/

Old /m/ would have flat out just ignore it like they did with Code Geass, you seem to be very confuse.

>>13624387
Life has taught me everything I like gets shitposted.

Thus, I learned how not to take IBO threads seriously.

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>>13624363
Wait people hate Ryvius? Did they even watch it?

Goddammit when did /m change into a homosexual Jewish nigger.

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I'm going to enlighten you to something. /m/ is full of manchildren who can't seem to understand moot gifted them with a wonderful feature called hiding a thread they don't like. The only reason these people who claim to be "objective" about shows come to any thread for a show they don't like is to stir shit up. The fact of the matter is some people are jerks. C'est la vie, Shikata ga nai. You should just ignore them. You know one of the classic rules of 4chan and the internet in general. Don't feed the trolls, if you don't respond they'll get board and leave. Shame no one understands that anymore. Some days I'd like to believe /m/ is just slow, and no one has anything better to talk about, so they take the bate for entertainment, instead of being idiots. I doubt it.

>>13624334
>IBO is a decent show but an awful Gundam Show
I don't get this. Even as a mecha anime IBO is incredibly uninspired it has nothing to do with it not being Gundam it itself is just not engaging and the people behind it don't give a shit.
>>13624339
You seem to know your way around that place than me so why don't you stay there.
>>13624312
>Smug
Oh its this butthurt faggot again.

The worst part about current /m/, is the imaginary rivalry between /a/ and /m/ they keep perpetuating.

>>13624403
Like 2012 things went to shit, Aldnoah and G-reco airing at the same time sent things to a hell like no other

>>13624411
>being this smug

Fafnershits, everyone.

>>13624348
>I wish i could of watched aldnoah with old /m/, it would of actually been funny instead of people just complaining that argevollen wasnt getting viewers(despite also being horrible) and it being a 079 knock off.
Not only were you not present on /m/ back then you've outed your shit taste out

>>13624413
>imaginary rivalry
Guess you haven't been to the IBO threads in /a/

>>13624421
The ones /m/ shits up, just like the ones here?

>>13624421
>Guess you haven't been to the IBO threads in /a/
Literally 2 people have mentioned /m/ and one of them was talking positively about it

So the /m/ /a/ rivalry is between 1 guy and /m/?

>>13624425
They shit up temporarily, they actually manage to ignore them after some slight shitposting detours
> just like the ones here?
Fucking hell just like this thread itself for example

>>13624428
For the record im talking about /a/ ignoring the shitposters, this thread is prime example of how /m/ needs to learn how to.

>>13624425
Sup /a/
>>13624426
You can stop lying now and its been present since the A/Z threads.

>>13624433
No it hasnt, for fucks sake /m/ and /a/ both have the same opinion on aldnoah, aldnoah might actually be one of the most hated shows on the board

>>13624425
So the /m/ boogeyman is carried over here?
>>13624428
If you like/a/ so much than just stat there, I'm sure the revieting discussion of which harem ecchi battle LN adaptation is better is to your liking anyways.

>>13624433
The rivalry has never existed, /m/ and /a/ have most of the same posters.

>>13624433
>>13624443
Here's your (you)

>>13624443
The fact that you think you need to stick to only one board tell alot.

The rivalry doesnt exsist, you people act like the christians in gods not dead.

>>13624440
>/m/ and /a/ both have the same opinion on aldnoah
People actually defend A/Z on /a/ by in large just to spite Slainefags. Since the characterfaggotry never came here its relentlessly shittied on.

>>13624453
>you people act like the christians in gods not dead.
I want to see this made, I'm just picturing that part in the trailer for the sequel with the one teacher bitch going
>I wont be afraid to say G-reco in threads

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>>13624446
>>13624453
Not even sure who are you trying to convince here.

>>13624457
>People actually defend A/Z on /a/
Do you live under a rock?

>>13624453
*tips fedora*

>>13624475
anon is right though. The only real rivalry that exsists on 4chan is between /a/ and /co/, and even that one is small, though it is kind of autistic.

>>13624467
The professor tells his students to write down "G-reco sucks" on a piece of paper.

>>13624376
I was expecting onis and akumas from Valvrave's eastern ass design and seppuku attack not gay fucking western vampires, why did you betray me Bandai.

>>13624413
Theres supposed to be a rivalry between /a/ and /m/?

>>13624067
you are the reason we keep getting cancer shit shows like this
eat shit and die

>>13624571
Irony

Holy shit, this thread
Rectards need to be purged.

>>13622424

But G-Reco was pretty good.IBO is just boring.

>>13623878

Zeta is really polarizing.We have allot of people who really like it and allot who really hate it.

>>13624158
> that selective webm over and over
Jesus, get some new material already. It's not THAT hard.

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>>13624892
>selective

You know its funny how G-Reco had new webms every week to show off its animation yet IBO has none, I wonder why?

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>>13622424
It doesn't have Isla.

>>13622424
>characters that actually seem human
IBOfags are getting out of hand

>tfw current-/m/ is still the best place to talk about robots in the west
it hurts

>>13624403
It's a single autist whoshitposts about Ryvius being terrible. The general reaction tends to be warm.

>>13624920
Says the rectard

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>Hey, did you know I had a secret brother I lost YEARS AND YEARS AGO. Who know, maybe he is dea... oh, fuck, here you are aniki!!!

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>>13623343
Honestly wish they made more porn of her, especially in her Sayla cosplay outfit.

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>>13625089
I knew it was coming and it still hurt.

>>13625089
I was expecting something stupid about their reunion but not something this stupid. This is AGE level of shit writing.

>>13625089
>Hey, did you know I had a little sister I am trying to put into school by working hard and earning money. Who know, maybe in the futur...oh, fuck, I am captured I AM GOING TO DIE!!!!
>lolnope medical nanomachines son

>>13622643
>apart from the animation G-Reco GENUINELY was a complete train wreck
>paying attention is too much for my ADHD

>>13622709
Once again the IBO supporters have no arguments and just respond with memes.

FTFY

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>>13625101
I'm glad they didn't kill him, wouldn't have brought anything to the table to kill takaki off.

>>13622424
I'm glad the loli fiance has made her appearance. 10/10 gundam show cause there is official pedophilia

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Gundam is shit
Gundam nerds are subhum

>>13625112
Doesn't bring much to the table keeping him alive either.

Least they could of used his death as some motivation to kick the brewers ass and finish their mission as well as give orga some development that one of his crew died but nope.

>>13625137
no his death would have been pointless, besides the whole "gotta save your brother" for Guts is more than enough reason to get them to fight the brewers.
>as well as give orga some development that one of his crew died but nope.
Orga barely knows Takaki. Guts, Eugene, that earring guy, or Biscuit would be more of a hit to Orga than the random babysitter.

>>13624079
>But no one is randomly threatening to murder girls or turning on their own teammates every other episode.

It's like you didn't watch Wing.

The differents between Wing and IBO are huge with the biggest being Wing is actually popular and will be remembered 10 years from now. IBO will be AGE and X status.

>>13623280
Useless meat.

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>>13625170
>IBO
>AGE & X tier
i don't think it'll do that bad...plus with it coming state side with a dub it could get the american dollars.

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>>13625173
No such thing.

>>13623734
Maybe his god is a pig.

>>13624201
>I don't think even Sunrise likes IBO. Just look at the animation.
I'm surprised Sunrise greenlit this show, Gundam shows are made to sell toys and IBO pretty much doesn't care about mecha.
IBO is obviously low budget, experimental Gundam.

>>13623788
>no more discussions
Remove the ranting and IBO doesn't generate anything close to discussion though.

>>13624118
>Here is the problem with G-Reco
>From the whole cast of chatracters in the show, I dont remember none of them
This has to be the most severe case of ADHD I've ever seen.

>All this irrational hate towards IBO
>Only place in the internet IBO is getting bashed on is here

Like it or not IBO is the best Gundam show in the last 15 years, finally something that is above the train wrek seed was after its first two seasons, the shit stain that 00 was, the living turd that AGE was, and the disgrace Reconguista in G.

>All this hate is only because is extremely popular even with normies
May as well hate on Unicorn them no /m/?

G-Reco and IBO are both good. Stop fueling dissent.

>>13622643
>People fucking hate everything that isn't almost all hand animation and when it is, they'll defend it practically to death no matter how shit it is (see: G-Reco)

G-Reco wasn't hand drawn, it just used a stupid looking filter.

>>13625251
Here's your reply

>>13625262
>G-Reco wasn't hand drawn

And yet this isn't the stupidest comment in the thread.

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>>13625255
but its fun to read these ridiculous posts anon.

>>13625251
How much of a tool do you have to be to need approval of a soapbox to know whether something is good or not?

>>13625255
>G-Reco
>Good
I will never understand this, it had massive potential,so it feels like the people that liked it saw the series and through *It could have been way better, so is good*.

While people like me get angry at how that budget, art style, characters god tier design(Mecha design is objective like always), amazing animation and colors when to the trash.

>>13625276
>I will never understand this
Of course you won't because you're a fucking idiot like every who hates it.

>>13625150
You're a fucking idiot.

>>13625276
you can't like a show that has flaws? I thought AGE was good and thats far from perfect
>>13625279
>calling people idiots for not liking what you like
anon...

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>>13625282
>AGE was good

>>13625150
They obviously could know one another from off screen either way it'd be a hit to him, its one of the people he's commanding, and part of his family as even he put it...of course it'd serve as motivation for him especially to fight back and have to learn to cope with people dying under his command no matter who died.

Are you that dense not to be able to see that? I mean holy shit they harp on the whole family thing nonstop in this shit show and then you who I'm assumeinlikes it....seems to just forget that, maybe its a good thing they didn't kill him off if the fans of it would be oblivious to how it could further certain plotlines.

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>>13625287
thats right anon, AGE was good. only the last 5 or so episodes sucked.

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>>13625295
Holy shit are you serious?

>>13625294
>Are you that dense not to be able to see that?
yeah no. because I don't agree with your point of view on this particular point doesn't make me dense anon. I think Takaki dying wouldn't have done shit for the show or the "family" Orga would have felt like shit and that blond lady that saved Takaki's life this episode would have talked Orga down saying he's a shit leader. (like she did this episode anyway) and they'd have 12 minutes of crying and then they'd go fight the brewers.

>>13625282
I can anon, one of my dirty secrets is liking AGE too, Flit generation being mediocre of course, improving dramatically when Asemu took over, and we all know th rest when Kio took over, but G-Reco feels like Kio generation the whole show, it barely makes sence, makes me feel as if people are liking Gundam for the wrong reasons, makes me feel like the days when Seed was popular but deep down I knew it was utter trash, of course eventually everybody open up their eyes.

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>>13625297
>you serious

>>13625301
>I think Takaki dying wouldn't have done shit for the show
He doesn't do shit for the show by being alive.

>>13625302
[Reply]

>>13625308
and? with this logic none of the side characters do anything being alive as well...that said no one does anything either

>>13625294
You know, death is a pretty cheap plot device to "Further" plot, may as well go wach victory if that your mind set.

>>13625310
Yeah...that's the problem.

>>13625251
>irrational hate
Being critical doesn't equal to hate. the amount of procrastinating in this show will piss many though.

>>13625310
>that said no one does anything either
Bingo.

This show is just floundering, just about anything to move the plot no matter how "Cheap" as >>13625312 put it will do.

That said the whole bait and switch not really dead thing is a cheap way of making people shocked and then playing with their relief as well by subverting expectations, and it's wasted being used on a side character who until last episode we knew nothing about, and had like three lines in the background.

>>13625335
>That said the whole bait and switch not really dead thing is a cheap way of making people shocked
Depends on how is executed, you know well most Gundam shows do this crap

>and then playing with their relief as well by subverting expectations
But that good no? the point of watching a show like gundam is for it to play with our emotions

>and it's wasted being used on a side character who until last episode we knew nothing about, and had like three lines in the background.
Yet in that 5min he had more character development than he ever had the whole series, so it makes the scene more relevant and less obtuse, specially since we just recently created a new connection to the character, also made the death-flag less predictable, he is a undeveloped character like you mention, so his chances of death were very high

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>>13625262
>G-Reco wasn't hand drawn

>>13625295
The last 5 or so episodes were among the least shitty of the show though. Not that they were good either.

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>>13625262
>G-Reco wasn't hand drawn,

>>13625366
>Depends on how is executed, you know well most Gundam shows do this crap

Never said any of them were good at it, did I? Just because something else does it doesn't mean this needs to fall to that particular trap as well.

>But that good no? the point of watching a show like gundam is for it to play with our emotions

That would be good if he more importance and was someone the audience could have bonded more with, would have been smarter to do it with Ahakhiro for instance, especially with the whole finding his brother thing as well.

>Yet in that 5min he had more character development than he ever had the whole series, so it makes the scene more relevant and less obtuse, specially since we just recently created a new connection to the character, also made the death-flag less predictable, he is a undeveloped character like you mention, so his chances of death were very high

This point I do agree with if I'm going to be a bit honest, I guess there was, some connection formed I guess if somenoe is the type to latch on a character after five minutes of some sympathetic backstory (and there are there's nothing wrong with that either), but more over it was because it set off a ton of deathflags at once, but so far no deathflags have really planned out like when people Biscuit was gonna get buttered when it was found out he has sisters and a Grandma with a farm, etc.

So really I just think it'd have been better implemented else where. Which honestly is just a personal preference of mine.

You're a manchild if you regularly follow Gundam series anyways. The majority of the franchise is lackluster, with G-Reco being a lone shining diamond amidst a sea of coal. Too bad it gets shit on by organized retards trying to ruin it's reputation.

>>13625150
Deaths are meant to be pointless.

>>13625379
>You're a manchild

That applies to the whole board...we're on the internet talking about Japanese Robot cartoons. We're all manchildren autismo.

>>13625366
>Yet in that 5min he had more character development than he ever had the whole series, so it makes the scene more relevant and less obtuse, specially since we just recently created a new connection to the character
Please never write anything

Setting up a character just before you fake out killing them makes you a complete and utter hack. Instead of being a good character we have seen do stuff throughout the show they throw some trite shit on him to try and make you care, they may as well added he was 3 days from retirement and was going to make up with his estranged son.

And by not having a death fuck all will come of that little bit, all that happened is they found an excuse to shout muh family again which is another thing they have just started saying but hasn't actually changed how they act. Death would actually fit with the hard orphan life thing they keep pushing and could have a big effect on characters, instead everything is back to normal. Oh but Guts remember his human debris shit that we saw got him so mistreated at CGS, wait he was treated like any other kid

>>13625392
Please never write anything.

>>13622424
I've gone through this whole thread and I've come to one conclusion.

G-Reco is good but it has the most cancerous fans.

will Okada ever make an opus like Nagi no Asukara again?

>>13625407
You know that was inly good because of the director right?

>>13622557
>>13622564
>>13622571
>>13622578
>>13622643
gentlemen please assist this thread and its strawpoll
>>134740561
http://strawpoll.me/6262995/r

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>>13625470
>strawpoll

>>13625489
I want to end the feud anon once and for all

>>13622708
Who the fuck is IBO?

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>>13622424
>Okada is a competent director
>any of those characters feel even vaguely human and not like characters out of any given drama
>10 episodes in and their total achievements are leaving Mars and meeting up with the most chill and lax underworld syndicate ever makes an engaging story

>>13625506
>Okada is a competent writer
FTFY. Though it says a lot when you can't be arsed to remember the director since its been so unremarkable.

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>>13623486

IBO is with Wing and After War in the Gundam trinity

>>13625506
Okada is the writer, not the director you stupid fuck.

>>13625522
>>13625536
Fuck

>>13624413
>>13624421
It's not "rivalry" if it's one sided, it's just /m/'s retarded unfounded superiority complex. And it's nothing new, at that.

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>>13625501

>>13625545
See
>>134749153

>>13625530
Actually the closest thing to IBO is Dougram, which is why it can't be watched by Gundam babbies. Tomino series and Takahashi-inspired anime are on a complete different level.

>>13622557
SEED was good though.

>>13625090
Mein Schwarz Bruder

>>13628918
>Actually the closest thing to IBO is Dougram
Minus being good.

>>13624387
Get over yourself, it was trash.
>>13624403
>Goddammit when did /m change into a homosexual Jewish nigger.
When your mouth talked with dialogue.
>>13624955
>It's a single autist whoshitposts about Ryvius being terrible. The general reaction tends to be warm.
The last thread we had was basically a ton of bashing towards it so your statement is incorrect by default.

>>13628952
seconding

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>>13623280
At least Aida TRIED to be useful.

>>13624387
>>13624403
Heaven forbid people are not mind controlled sheep, /m/ is not your hive mind so go back to Mecha Talk.

>>13629632
mind if I third? IBO is dreadful so far.

>>13625470
>putting a time limit on the straw poll so not enough G-Reco fans can see it

>>13622424
>Hippocrates
Shut up, Plato! Fucking Pythagorean fuck.

>other people loathe Ryivilus too
Finally, it took you long enough, /m/.

>>13629668
I know right? Time to take back control from the sheeple.

>>13624403
>Did they even watch it?
I did and it was fucking awful

G-Reco is easily the most shat over gundam series of recent years, and you are claiming it "gets a free pass"?

>>13629693
>G-Reco is easily the most shat over gundam series of recent years
Not on /m/.

>>13625089
For the most part I'm enjoying the show. I have doubts that it'll continue to go well and end well, and there are scenes every now and then I don't love. This was fucking horrible though. Any time a show introduces some big idea or concept that's supposed to be a long lost anything or a rare occurrence, and then it happens in the next fucking scene I want to strangle the writer.

I don't expect Concrete Revolutio levels of foreshadowing and buildup, but come the fuck on. Still that panning up shot of Barbatos stabbing Pedro made my dick hard.

>>13625301
>Constantly harps about protecting his family
>Had a discussion with the other family leader about what happens when someone under your command dies
>"One of his men dying would affect him "
Not the guy you're arguing with, but you're an idiot.

Still, Barbatos is one of the best looking gundam out there. If not the best