/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #772

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SENSEI GO OUT WITH ME

>>13527545
You know who I'd want for the OP alone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dREm9-wcm8
Plus put it in a game with Shin Mazinger and we'd get an excuse to fight mass production supers. We haven't had those in a while.

Should I put Mai in the R-Gun for the last few stages of OGG? She's been doing great in the ART-1 and Viletta's fine in the R-Gun, but I just beat Altis and I hear the next few bosses want maximum damage output. Will an extra couple T-Link Double Knuckles make up the difference?

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>>13525978
Starts publication on December 12th.

>>13527591
How strong this guy robo compared to the likes of other OG mecha?

I want to marry Grungust!

>>13527604
Max power HTB spam is way more bang per EN than R-Formation + Love Love T Link Knuckle + HTB would be

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>>13527607
Pretty excited for it, can't wait to see where it goes, especially since it's listed as a full reboot, which means it should get a decent amount of chapters if nothing else.

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>>13527614
Pretty good,he's up there with Ialdabaoth

>>13527620
Fair. I guess the real question is more "Do I need max EN/damage efficiency or can I lay up a bit in the name of favoritism?"

>>13527614
>>13527642
He's not even the strongest OG in his own game.

>>13527681
>Do I need max EN/damage efficiency

It's SRW so the answer is always no.

>>13527614

Story wise, or gameplay wise?

>>13527681
I've yet to encounter a situation in SRW where favoritism didn't win out against efficiency.

It's a cross over game. It's not meant to be difficult, and the few examples people cite as difficult are more often than not just tedious for the sake of getting the player to spend more time on the game.

Play the pilots you want in the robots you like and just go from there. Do that and you'll never have a hard time in SRW.

Said the man whose favorite robots are typically the strongest in the games they appear in.

>>13527777

I was surprised at how strong WRONG TETSUJIN was, and I wouldn't have given him a chance if weren't for you, old man.

>>13527777
Quads of truth from the Mad Arab.
>spoiler
You had the perfect chance to tell us about those in the last thread, why didn't you?

>>13527777
How true, how true.

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>>13527777
Gee old man, how come you don't post seriously more?
See, you even get sweet quads of truth.

But yeah, you're pretty much right, any maxed out unit can at the very least allow you to finish a stage with no problems, sure, there are those who have better spirits than others but unless it's one of those rare cases where the list is complete utter garbage as long as you pump your dosh into it you're fine.

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>>13527777
>Spoiler
So your favourite robot is Neo Granzon then.

>>13527777
And my favoritism is centered around the STX, so.

If you finish Alkaid off with an HTB Cannon, shouldn't the SRX Team become the Kings and Queens of Shura?

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>>13527777
When favoritism and efficiency collide, it's an amazing thing

>>13527787
He's kinda like Dai-Guard, except a bit stronger at the start of the game.

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>>13527545

>>13527805
>>13527809
>EN guzzler with every attack
>Efficient

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>>13527819
>E-Save doesn't exist
>Resupply and Generators don't exist
>SP Drinks and Hope don't exist

Let's see you kill every OG final boss in one turn with just an armor break followed by a single attack over and over before you run out of Enable and Resupply. I can guarantee not many will be able to.

SRX with a +200 EN part and a FUB'd R-Gun both have at least 400 EN, and can easily keep the Valors going for nearly every single shot with proper use of SP Drinks and Hope. Remember you can equip consumables on the separate R-Series units and use those when you split. And since HTB is a combo attack it gets a power boost when you pair up the SRX and R-Gun.

60k damage per shot before a boss's Prevail starts kicking in hard is easy even on a first run in the games with Attacker. And 2ndOG toned down the HP bloat a bunch so not having Attacker there works out fine.

>>13527842
>kill every OG final boss in one turn with just an armor break followed by a single attack over and over before you run out of Enable and Resupply.
I'd rather just attack the boss with all the units I have, since I only ever ran out of actions before the boss died on Dark Brain's second form in Ex-Hard. Especially in 2nd OGs, where the number of pairs means you have access to twice as many finishers, although I'm probably the only person here who splits all their pairs up (besides the one who's going to make the kill) before going after the stage boss.

>>13527842

Yes but why would you want to go through all that effort when you can just kill bosses with a team play.

OG3 when?

>>13527862
Because I can

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Night guys, stay nice with each other and don't do anything crazy.

>>13527862
>but why would you want to go through all that effort
I didn't know that mashing 4 commands on the same 3 units for one turn is considered effort now, sure as hell takes less than selecting more than 4 different units and buff them all with spirits.

>>13527862
It's much more fun to have a single unit repeatedly hit the enemy until they die.

>>13527890
Really? I've never thought that, but I guess that's just part of the human experience. Difference of opinion and personal perceptions and all that.

>>13527727
Story wise.

>>13527700
Who are the strongest? FP Shurounga Sins?

>>13527881

You are doing it wrong then.

>>13527842
Not too mention the satisfaction of one turning Euzeth.

>>13528074
Trying to compare OG mech powerlevels storywise is an exercise in futility since after a certain point they're all reality-bending monsters.

>>13528099
>You are doing it right then.
FTFY

>>13528109
What about gameplay wise then?

>>13528109
So you implied that Valzacard with 3 sides of Solomon Triangle and can withstand universe reset lost to Geminion Rei?

>>13528132
Mu.

How does SRW Z handle Gravion combining into God Gravion? Are all the support vehicles playable whenever you feel like decombining God Gravion back again?
For that matter, how do Alpha 2 and 3 handle combining mechs?

>>13528099
>implying theirs a proper way to play SRW

>>13528181
>How does SRW Z handle Gravion combining into God Gravion?
You get Grand Kaiser, when Touga hits 130 will Sandman's swag turns it into Gravion for 3 turns
Until you get the Critical Gravitron ability, at which point it's stuck as Gravion
>For that matter, how do Alpha 2 and 3 handle combining mechs?
They don't

>>13528211
>They don't
I'm sad. Playing with the combiners in @/G was the one of the fun parts of those games.

>>13528217
They stopped doing combiners the day animations got more complicated than "move static sprite around". Also, squads. Squads and units that split up do not mesh well.

>>13528211
What if you want to play as the little jet and drill tank things? Is that only possible in a couple of stages, or...?

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So Yuyuko disappeared and the music suddenly got amazing.

I assume this is a repeat of that trick Flan pulled, and I should brace for incoming MAP spam?

>>13528211
>They don't
Well, there's the Hyperion. Were there any others? Because that's the only example I can think of.

>>13528262
>Resurrection Butterfly
Oh boy.
Haven't played FMW yet but if it's anything like the original you'll have to time it out.

>>13528285
Yeah, that seems to be the case.

On a side note, I tried having Sunny cast Guts out of morbid curiosity regarding exactly how the "all healing is inverted" effect works. Interestingly, Guts in this game is coded to heal for the unit's maximum health, not their missing health. So using it while under that effect does, in fact, instantly kill the caster.

And then Cirno died to her own HP regen. I guess I should have expected that. Luckily, the effect only lasts a couple turns and I made sure to keep a bomb in reserve, so I should be fine.

>>13528262
get ready for Yukarin raping your ass

>>13528262
Yeah. It's the same gimmick as the actual Perfect Cherry Blossom final boss fight, after you beat Yuyuko the Saigyouji tree goes nuts and starts attacking you as well and you just have to take the attacks and survive to win.

Thank you, /srwg/
For everything.

>>13528295
It's going to be great.

>>13528262
>music suddenly got amazing.
If you think the music got amazing now you're in for one hell of a ride, it just keeps getting better.

>>13528305
her theme song is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTM2ozT_9m8

>>13528295
Surely she can't be THAT bad, I doubt they'd make her-
>スキマ
>マップ中の任意のマスに移動できる。
Oh god, does she actually do this on a regular basis? Because if so, just kill me now.

>>13528337
Yukari has a lot of gimmicks designed to fuck you over.

In three the final boss substitutes gimmicks for pure unadulterated fuck you in a long beatdown drag out fight

>>13528337
You are going to LOVE her Arcanum "Danmaku Barrier" spellcard.

The whole fight in general is pretty much a introduction/preview to the third games more gimmicky spellcards which you'll see a lot more of.

>>13528354
>>13528389
>gimmicks
Oh boy.

In all seriousness, I'm looking forward to this. The crazy gimmicks are a big part of what set FMW's boss fights apart from standard SRW fare, and I love them even if they do kick my ass sometimes.

>>13528354
What is the last boss of Ei like?

>>13528406
Read the spoiler.

>>13528407
No I mean how is she pure unadulterated fuck you?

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The showdown begins, and for once the enemy density isn't Masoukishin tier. 30 grunts and 5 bosses is a pretty respectable opposition. And as usual, the finale medley does not disappoint.

Rate my team, /srwg/.

>>13528411
High damage
High prevail
Ridiculous accuracy mods
Xbox huge maps
Her cards are just designed to make it easier for her to kill you

>>13528418
Pretty standard. What route are you playing on anyway?

Depending on your choice, you don't have many stages to play with some of these guys again before they leave in Ei's first half.

>>13528420
Well that doesn't sound too bad.

>>13528411
Well, imagine the ideon gun. Now imagine the ideon gun backed by enough Will to make GGG blush.

>>13528431
>That doesn't sound too bad
That's what they all say until when they actually do it.

>>13528431
She can move twice a turn (three times on higher modes), morale exceeds the limit (no not 170, it goes upto 500) and also can void defensive spirits.

And she's still not the hardest boss in the game, that is reserved for the midboss.

>>13528258
The Gran Kaiser has the other Gran Divas as one of its attacks. That's it for being able to use them. Sol Gravion also gets an attack where the armor splits off into that combined jet form and it rides it into the opponent as a surfboard, which is pretty swag.

>>13528411
>>13528420
anyone here that webm of Okuu nuking an entire team with her MAP in one turn?

>>13528446
Some of Yorihime's difficulty comes from not having access to half of the cast.

>>13528424
Marisa. But before I move on to Ei, I'll probably go back and run my Reimu file as well. I've been doing both routes semi-concurrently.

>>13528418
>And as usual, the finale medley does not disappoint.
Found it amusing how GONG worked into it surprisingly well.

>>13528442
>>13528446
So she can wreck China and all of the other tanky supers with ease?

>>13528446
>that is reserved for the midboss
fuck Yorihime
anyways, those crazy bonuses are really challenging but also makes the boss fight much more fun than any other SRW, which in comparison, seem really boring

>>13528455
the issue is that being "tanky" in this game sucks bigtime againt bosses when their output damage skyrockets

>>13528418
Wait, You's fully translated? Where can I get the patch?

>>13528455
Yep.

>>13528455
Pretty much, though China is more or less the ONLY tank in the game who can support defend without getting wrecked immediately. Yuyuko also for certain technical reasons because of a certain skill.

This says a lot since they pretty much go nuts giving you a bunch of super tanky and overpowered units.

>>13528462
It's on the Akurasu wiki.

>>13528452
this is the real issue
you have only half of the team and it is really lackluster
that and the stupid fucking 10k hp bunnies that abuse support attack and defense actively, fuck them

>>13528462
It's not a full patch, it only translates the story dialogue and some of the menus. It's good enough for me (my Japanese is up to par for Battle dialogue and the like), but just warning you that it's not entirely complete and probably never will be. Akurasu has a link to it.

>>13528470
Momiji can also tank, kinda, but if her shield skill does not active, she is fucked

>>13528455

She can fuck everyone easily, but specifically she has 2 cardspell effects that bypass Flash and Fortitude.

But at least all of her gimmicks were fun, unlike a certain boss in the midgame.

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>>13528431
>>13528420
>>13528450
Also have the PV for the third game just because it was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf14u5HssOI

>>13528490
jesus christ

>>13528490
That webm is a thing of beauty.

It reminds me of the first time I tried to fight Yuuka back in Kou.

>/srwg/ - Touhou General

>>13528490
Jesus fuck.

>>13528490
Oh my.
I feel my self getting a chub after watching that webm.
>>13528486
Is Yorihime really that bad?
Fuck I've really got to get through You

>>13528509
>He doesn't know that this is Super Offtopic Wars General

Its surprisingly early this time but its probably because people chased off the fanfic posters.

>>13528476
Even the extra event and battle dialogue is a small issue since the guy who made the patch also did a full LP of it with full dialogue translations and is also doing a LP/text translation of the third game which is linked to this as well.

http://lparchive.org/Fantasy-Maiden-Wars-P/

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I didn't realize this was /fmwg/.

>>13528523
Every single 2hu>Lune
Yes even Rinnosuke is better than Lune

>>13527858
Honestly whilst I'd prefer the full team assault the way SRX is just made in the OG games is just fucking broken because it's straight up the most efficient way to kill everything.

That is what happens when you don't change up the gameplay formula and keep doing a power creep without any regard for balance.

Who is this semen demon?

>>13528533
Uh...okay. Sure, dood. Whatever you say.

>>13528517
>chased off the fanfic posters.

Just the one really really bland one with a less than optimal way of sharing these ideas.

>>13528513
>Is Yorihime really that bad?
She basically has the same gimmick as Gaioh in Z2. You can straight up fight her or taunt her before fighting her and she powers up into a superboss version. This is considering in terms of stats and skills she is actually already statistically the most powerful boss in the game even without the buff.

>>13528534
Mattman.

>>13528540
It had potential though.

>>13528517
Well I can always post my fanfic if anyone wants a good laugh.

>>13528534
TE spoiler girl

>>13528431
750 WILL AT ONE OF THE HARDER DIFFICULTIES

>>13528550
Along with everything else in the world

>>13528563
Better boring and bland on your first try and working your way up than trying to be super innovative and botching it.

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>>13528490
Goddamn, a full wipe because of MAP spam. I'm not even a Touhou fan and that webm terrifies me.

>>13528571
But at the same time it's better to be like Fire Emblem 404 than bland and boring.

>X-O has another crystal gasha special
>Didn't take the non-Attacker Geass units out of the running
I HOPE YOU LIKE GEKKAS.

Considering how rare crystals are compared to the gasha currency in other mobile games, they don't need to keep changing up the shit in the gasha damn-near every week considering the only people who'd be able to do a 10x pull more than once every few weeks (if that) are whales.

I'm not going to give much of a shit about anything besides daily bonuses and missions until more units and sub-SR units get added, because this is getting ridiculous. I have NEVER gotten an R unit from the Friend Gasha. Fucking useless-ass currency.

>>13528533
Don't forget that this is a cross over game first, and a strategy game a very, very, very, very distant second.

Yeah, it would be nice for the game to provide more interesting gameplay elements and be at least a little challenging but it's just not their focus.

Then again, even if you ignored that this is a cross over game, the genre SRW belongs to isn't exactly known for its freshness.

Fire Emblem, Tactics Ogre, and most other SRPGs play the same outside of a few minor (sometimes major, to be fair) differences.

>>13528580
>Like Fire Emblem 404
Fuck no. That's the kind of thing that you should be trying to avoid.

>>13528571
Works in theory.
But only in theory.

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Today in OG Gaiden: Kai Kitamura slaughters half the Shura King's guards singlehandedly, without effort.

> If you give me a mere moment, light will twist and bend like a serpent... And glass will shatter into pieces and fall like rain. ...It is a world where I am alone. Yes, a world of solitude. And this world of mine needs no other humans!

> This devilish mist is the bloody crystallization of my mystical power... It cuts off the abominable sunlight, forming a magical scarlet veil. The current Gensokyo is now the domination of the devil in red... Yes, it has become, the embodiment of the scarlet devil.

> Very well then, shrine maiden of Gensokyo. Let that answer be your sword. Show me if you can reach me from the base of a mountain! Show me if you can reach I, who stand above the winds, above the rains! I, who stand atop of a mountain of faith!

How many hype moments like this have we missed through all of the untranslated SRW games.

In light of recent events, are you here Matt?

>>13528628
Recent events? Do tell.

>>13528633
Nothing important.

>>13528584
Freshness isn't a big deal, more cherry on the top but mechanics are.

FE used to have some solid innovative mechanics going on in it's past and half the reason it faded was it wasn't changing anything anymore, in fact it was removing elements. Then they realized fanservice would get more shekels for less effort.

You have some like Luminous Arc/Stella Glow which are happy to be generic but just do it very very well then died. Some like Advance Wars take it to a extreme and make solid gameplay a main front and...died.

You know what, I'm gonna shut up. It's made me depressed now.

>>13528618
Man, I don't know what it was about the stage where you fight Kanako, but that shit was fucking hype. Especially when she activates Mountain of Faith.

And to answer your question: quite a few, honestly. A lot of the games have some really cool moments that aren't entirely obvious if you can't understand the dialogue. Some of my favorites are in the Masoukishin games.

>>13528644
>Some like Advance Wars take it to a extreme and make solid gameplay a main front and...died.
After the batshit insanity that was Days of Ruin, I don't see how they can top themselves.
Also fuck that final stage.

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>>13528644
>advance wars
>unit is named Mech
>it's just 5 guys who kill tanks more easily

>>13528644
Some of those mechanics got cut because they wouldn't work with the game's plot or get revised.

Things like Capture don't really work well outside of FE5 and other things like Fatigue, PCC and Movement Stars are things that are huge pains in the ass to balance properly.

Con is something IS couldn't get right for a long time and they probably just didn't bother to deal with it anymore.

Other things like the magic triangle are superfluous since mages are really samey and often come in two flavors, with either so much res that it barely helps or no res at all so they'd die anyway.

Its not that IS is actively removing elements, they're experimenting with them until when they find a happy balance.

>>13528644
Advance Wars died because they decided to abruptly change the whole plot and tone of the franchise, suddenly going from fun and campy to muh gritty realism while also throwing out literally the entire cast that players had been following for three games now. The gameplay in DoR is fantastic, but you can't do that sort of shit to your story and expect to stay alive.

>>13528661
I distinctly remember playing a Fire Emblem with Fog of War.
I can also say fucking fuck the retard that thought that was a good idea.

>>13528666
Fog's okay when it isn't FE5 Fog.

>>13528657
They tell you right at the start of the game that Mech is just an abbreviation for Mechanized Infantry.

Which is, admittedly, still an entirely inaccurate name unless you're willing to shell out an extra 5k for an APC to throw them in.

>>13528651
There definitely have been some fantastic moments, Ragnarok scenario's in the Classic timeline come to mind. Shiva's speeches in @3 were pretty hype and I recall the dialogue for Duminas in R and even Arnie/Ayul's events in UX being actually kind of heartbreaking.

>Yes you have become the 3rd Super Robot Taisen Z Heaven chapter!
On the other hand you sometimes have this. This was pure shit and tacky both in the original dialogue and translated. You just can't make that sound good at all outside or in context. It's just bad writing.

>>13528628
Festum please go away.

>>13528662
You gotta admit Caulder was one hell of a villain.

>>13528672
I don't recall them actually saying that. There was just a lot of gratuitous overuse of "beyond human comprehension".

>>13528684
He was, I'm not saying the DoR story is shit on its own merits. It's just so utterly nothing like Advance Wars that it shouldn't be surprising it was a franchise killer.

>>13528662
On the other hand it gave us the amazing moment in the game when this theme kicked in which was hype. Also they didn't even release DoR in Japan so er...

https://youtu.be/lLh7_wV_rM0

Let me guess: one of Yukari's spellcards changes the map to night? The guys at Sanbondo seem far too sadistic to pass up a chance to drop that S rank on me.

Combined with her Kiwami, that would make her rather terrifyingly accurate. Doubly so since I didn't bother equipping the appropriate terrain parts, considering there's been literally no night maps this entire game.

>>13528698
DoR accidentally putting AW in a coma led to Codename STEAM happening, and I personally loved Randolph Carter's Eldritch Ride.

Shame most other people didn't. Those abysmal sales numbers...

>>13528671
That is precisely what I must do, thank you anon

>>13528723
Nope though it would be terrifying she wouldn't even need it with her insane accuracy, IIRC her spellcards are..

>Can use any spirit from your teams combined spirit pool once per turn
>Extra graze damage
>Gimmick MAP and blanket human debuff
>-1 bomb range and ignores all damage from non-1 range attacks
>Can move as many times as you have units on the field

>>13528644
>Advance Wars
Now the only reminder of its existence is the infantry assist trophy in Smash Bros. I doubt enough people voted for Andy, either...

>>13528662
>suddenly going from fun and campy to muh gritty realism
Back when they were alive, Hudson tried the same with Bomberman, but wisely backpedaled hard afterwards. I don't get why silly properties like this have to get serioused up, that's not necessary to keep them popular.

>>13528756
Because grim and gritty is what the kids want these days obviously
Let's ignore the fact that doing that has pretty much never ended well for any franchise ever

>>13528762
Their reasoning is probably something like "It'll work this time, really!"

>>13528762
Well, it worked for Jak & Daxter, although that may have been lightning in a bottle.

>>13528756
>Back when they were alive, Hudson tried the same with Bomberman, but wisely backpedaled hard afterwards. I don't get why silly properties like this have to get serioused up, that's not necessary to keep them popular.
It's not even as if Bomberman couldn't be serious 64 Second Attack pretty much had a alternate ending where the entire universe blew up which was pretty huge.

What I took issue more was the Hige bandits phase where it was like they just decided to give up making interesting enemies.

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>>13528752
>ignores all damage from non-1 range attacks
Now THAT brings back memories. And not good ones, either.
>Can move as many times as you have units on the field
Holy shit. Note to self: make absolutely damn sure I don't let it pass to enemy phase during that spellcard.

>>13528784
She's bound to get at least one turn of that spell.

>>13528799
It's not possible to break the previous spell at the start of player phase, then use the rest of your units to finish her off?

>>13528769
Jak & Daxter and Conker are the only two times it's ever worked. Both only had one other game before going dark, and Jak made it work in part through cross-promotion with Ratchet, which was already more aimed towards people who enjoyed black comedy. But even Ratchet almost had a franchise killer with Deadlocked, which tried going even darker than most of that franchise.

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>>13528784
>Now THAT brings back memories. And not good ones, either.

depends on the game. There are some enemy decks that only use gun class units

Jesus christ, are the SRW touhous as hard as you guys makes them look like? Because in SRW games the "hardest" thing I ever faced was the dark brain stage, and only because both the boss and his mooks were HP sponges who simply refused to die

>>13528819
She does the same move back to the tree gimmick.

>>13528827
Killing everything in @G's Earth Cradle stage is probably the hardest thing I've done in SRW. Lots of dodgy motherfuckers that all start at 150 will, and no SP refills.

>>13528784
Yukari will at least get one turn of her final spell, hope you max upgraded Reimu and pray she can evade that at least
>>13528827
the thing in FMW is that everything matters, especially your terrain ranks and more importantly, battle formation, the friendship bonuses are really fucking important when facing bosses, as SP is not that abundant

>>13528851
Who doesn't max out Reimu?

And in You even with only 2-3 WB bonus + mobility upgrades she can dodge everything even when unfocused, unless there is some crazy danmaku field effect or penalty (Yukari).

All of this discussion is making me want to go over the series again from the first game.

>>13528827
Yes they are.
>>13528886
Wait so was it a bad idea for me to dump all of my money in Marissa?

>>13528842
did you ever finish Alpha Gaiden?

>>13528827
They're not horrendously difficult for the most part, but they're certainly a lot less effortless than most SRW games.

They're pretty fun, you should give them a try.

>>13528778
Fair. Though there is a fine line between "happy happy joy joy" and "full on Master Chief".

>>13528820
It also worked with Banjo-Kazooie to an extent in regards to Tooie.
>Conker
It's ironic how the minute it goes on Xbox, it got MORE censorship that Nintendo ever gave.

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I hope you guys are ready for 0083 plot.

>>13528851
7 bars in mobility and Evade Up L4. With any luck, she should be okay.

>>13528940
Tomorrow

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Goddammit I didn't expect a bunch girls wearing silly hats to be this awesome.
Also it's nice to play FMW after going through F/Final

>>13529046
I remember losing my shit when Marisa's group showed up. The new reinforcement theme in the second game is too damn good.

It only gets better from there. The next few stages are amazing. By the way, which route are you doing?

>>13528983
Compact's lack of OGs means you're pretty much just re-enacting scenes from the featured series.

>>13529056
Marissa.
I don't know why but I've always loved her.

>>13529046
>Cirno
>focused
Shit, man, what are you doing?

>>13528517
There was only like a small handful posts which didn't like fanfic posting.

I think it's more like everyone who had fanfic ideas already finished posting them.

>>13528531
What the heck do you mean "Even Rinnosuke"? That guy is the greatest

>>13528563
But I have Guts because I'm @G Jiron

>>13529046
That is one of my favorite stages ever, only beaten by a couple in Eternal.

You didn't even needed translations to know how awesome it was. You are surrounded, a wall of supers at the front, a bunch of reals at the backs, even a couple of anoying kappas underwater. They all start to gang up on you. Until Marisa fucking Kirisame appear with the EOSD crew to save your asses.

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3 things
1. Hyaku Shiki looks even more like L-Gaim while next to L-Gaim, which I thought was hilarious because, even though they have the same designer of course, it's still fun to see robots from other series that look like they'd fit into another.
2. Has anyone tried uploading Dunbine's music onto YouTube or whatever alternative there is?
3. GATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Punished AWOOO.
A fallen watchdog.

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Oh and there's a fucking Zeong.

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Surrounded by 3 Elmeths, no less.

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>>13528762
Final Fantasy Tactics?

Sure, it's still colorful but it's an FF game where I can really think of only one scene that's "wacky" (and its a sidequest) compared to its predecessors which were mostly goofy interspersed with melodrama.

>>13528827
FMW has difficulty settings and I think most of us here are apparently Hardened OYW Veterans who play on the higher settings.

If you're worried about being too casual for being one-shotted, there are lower difficulties if you just want to have a relaxing breeze, but y'know, EasyModo joke here

>>13529197
>>13529211
Isn't the Zeong horribly outdated by now?

>>13529222
not everyone is crazy enough to try Lunatic mode on those games

>>13529244
The other unit's legs are only holding them back

So I've started watching Victory and holy shit.
They actually used microwaves to make their enemy sick and unable to fight before launching an assault.

That's supposed to be reserved for "villains"

>>13529254
Meant as a reply to >>13529224

>>13529224
Everything prior to the CCA events should be outdated, even Zeta (hence the REfined Gundam Zeta)
But we're still flying around in the fucking RX-79 all the way up to the RX-93 and everything in between.

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Is Kou related to Aya?
Is the GP-03 related to the R-3?
Is Katz related to Aya?

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>>13529324
You tell me

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>>13529324
>Is Katz related to Aya?

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Kou has a chat with Gato...

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...but nothing happens.
Oh well, time to reenact Stardust Memory... even though the titans are already a thing.

So, apparently Goro Tanaguchi is teasing something big scheduled for late next year, with Takahiro Kimura and Takanori Hoshino apparently tagging along for the announcement.

New GGG?

>>13529367
Only relation they all seem to have is GxS, so I highly doubt it would be GGG

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BUT
Quattro Bajeena, of all people, talks to Gato.

>>13529333
If only the playable version retained the 140 mobility and 9 movement that she had as an enemy, she might actually be worth using.

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What kind of world do we live in in which a Gundam has 9000+ HP, but Daimos, Mazinger, and Getter have 4500?

>>13528262
>Well, there's the Hyperion. Were there any others? Because that's the only example I can think of.

Chouryujin in Alpha 2 does combining still. Tenryujin in Alpha 3 also does, and in that game you get Final Dancouga who can split into Black Wing and Dancouga (not that anyone ever DOES, but you can.)

>>13528769
Because the original game, for all its good traits, was kind of half baked. Or because no one was complaining about darkness because everyone complained about how fucking difficult it was. Or because it was still trying to be funny (Daxter's occasional jokes about Jak's inability to speak in the first game were always great.)

Also the franchise is dead at this point, so.

>>13528960
Tooie wasn't THAT dark, though. That's like saying Pokémon Gen 4 and 5 were more dark than 1, 2, and 3 - you're not wrong, but considering how minor the difference is does it even matter?

>>13529394
I do love how this cutscene goes.

>Gato: I AM ZEON! WE ARE FIGHTING EACH OTHER
>Quattro: no dude stop
>Gato: WHY SHO-wait, Char? The fuck are you doing there?
>Quattro: Helping stop aliens and shit? Also that's not my real name, it's Casval Deikun
>Gato: ahahaha what the fuck, seriously? Ok shit man I'll join you I guess, your side is more Zeon than this one.

Also make sure to get the Zeong after that stage, it's pretty solid (though IIRC it needs a Minovsky Craft to work in atmosphere). I'll get secrets and shit in a sec.

>>13529404
Neue Ziel is a mobile armor, not a Gundam...but then again, inflated HP for a boss/NPC.

>>13529404
New Zealand isn't Gundam

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HOLY FUCK HE HITS LIKE A TRUCK STUFFED WITH IDEALS
>>13529408
>That convo
That's fucking sweet, man.
>>13529409
This is him as an ally unit.

>>13529409
>>13529415
There's a reason I said 9000+.
The Dendrobium's base health is at 9000.
That said, the fact that it stays at 11K for the Newzealander is absurd.

>>13529404
It actually fits well for Getter and Mazinger, but I'm not so sure about Daimos.

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Well, anyway, Cima got the ultimate dicking of a lifetime. Bet she didn't see THAT coming.
>>13529438
Even Getter G?

>>13529419
Neue Ziel is seriously no joke. Mobile Armors in general rule the C1 scene, and it's one of the best ones, up with one that you'll get really late in the game that basically kicks every other ass. If you're an MS not named Nu, Sazabi, or F91, you may as well not even try.

As for Gato himself, he's not a bad pilot, but he's an Oldtype and that means late Double Image so he gets left behind.

>>13529427
He does get a little bit of upgrades, but yeah. What he mainly loses is Armor - enemy version has 2000, that one has 1600 (which is still pretty huge) - and Mobility, where it started with FUCKING 155 and drops to 100.


Anyway.

second (v. Haman) > fourth (v. a special guest) > third (series debut this late in the game?) > first (THE O, THE O THE O THE O)

>>13529419
>>13529442
>Ded Mattman's waifu

>>13529442
Yes. Don't see why G would have that much more HP than the original

>>13529453
Its twice as big.

>>13529457
Not twice. 35 meters upgrading to 47 meters. Then Shin is 55.

...I guess it's twice if you compare Getter 3 to Poseidon, at least.

>>13529457
>>13529477
I could see why that might be a problem then. Not too familiar with toei getter, sorry about that

Actually, how much more HP if any does G have compared to the original in the compact he's playing

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You could have prevented the slaughter, /srwg/.
Instead, you allowed L-Gaim to rise and surpass its intended successor in such a manner that defies nature.

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Now the question becomes, "who gets the bonus"?

>>13529558
4 Vagina

>>13529565
I actually haven't been deploying him for anything except this mission.

>>13529558
One of the Dancouga or Getter pilots.

I KNOW you haven't gotten all of them ready.

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>>13529584
>I KNOW you haven't gotten all of them ready.

>>13529611
How did you...?

Ok, did you get Banjo?

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>>13529665
I'm a masochist, is how.
Anyway, no, I did NOT have Banjo.
Now I do.

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Wait what the fuck is this and when did I get it

>>13529716
That's Getter.

Are you dissing Benkei's ride?

>>13529724
>>13529727
Oh, fuck, I knew it was a Getter, I just didn't realize that it was Poseidon. OOPS.
What threw me off is that for some reason Dragon has 500 more HP than Liger or Poseidon.

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>>13529716
That's Getter Poseidon, mate.

Don't you be disrespectin'.

>>13529732
Because you gave Dragon a Chobham Armor, of course.

>>13528752
>once per turn
Yeah, that restriction doesn't seem to be a thing. Immediately after activating that spell, she cast Strike/Fury/Alert all at once, and blew right past support defense to kill Mokou.

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Remember, your sins are what cause your downfall.
Have you confessed your sins lately, /srwg/?
Anyway, it seems clear I should be heading off soon.
>>13529734
Didn't mean disrespect, my tired old eyes are failing me from 25 hours of being awake on the job; Compact's the only thing keeping me awake during breaks
>>13529740
Ah, must've done it without realizing. Or something.

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Literal nightmares of L-Gaim.

>>13529761
Oh man, is this the game where Daimos doesn't come with alert nor anything that reduces damage? I'm amazed you still deploy him.

And is this the one where the final boss is Don Zauser ?

>>13529803
Yeah man.
I just love Daimos, and Kazuya can cast love two times per mission, which is nice.
Not like my other choices matter when I have L-Gaim.

>>13529803
>Oh man, is this the game where Daimos doesn't come with alert nor anything that reduces damage? I'm amazed you still deploy him.

2-5 P move, man. It's an offensive powerhouse, you just have to put things into its armor.

Also Kazuya has Love. And if you feel like fucking with Wonderswan's default birthday and get rid of that to add defensive spirits, his last spirit is FUCKING SOUL on one of his five sets.

>spoiler

It is. You can one shot him.

>>13529734
Poseidon is the Getter 3 form that looks the least goofy, and that probably says something about the designs in general.

>>13529803
That's the one, though from his playthrough, it sounds more like Daimos is a beast until something bad happens, like Aura Battlers going Hyper.

In a meaningless aside, I'm the anon trapped by Govarian's OP, I can't stop listening to it, send help

>>13529801
SHOW ME THE WAY TO YOU!

LEAD ME TO WHERE YOU ARE!

HEAVY

METAL

(SOMETHING IN JAPANESE)

L-GAIMMMMM!

>>13529761
I was wondering if the V-Ups stacked...

Are you going to stick Daba in this beast or stick with Amu?

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>>13529829
>I was wondering if the V-Ups stacked...

yes they do. This is FOUR V Up (W)'s on the G3 in Impact at max upgrades.

>defense -160%
Holy shit Yukari, calm down. What the hell does a defense penalty greater than 100% even do, anyway?

>>13529829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRiFIIOF6SU
Best pilot for L-Gaim is actually Daba.
Apparently, it's because the V-Ups stack with each other that L-Gaim is a better unit than Mark 2, which is ironic as hell.

>>13529827
>I'm the anon trapped by Govarian's OP, I can't stop listening to it, send help

Ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAGO4mLigk0

>>13529829
>Are you going to stick Daba in this beast or stick with Amu?

There's literally no reason not to use Daba in it, it's the best L-Gaim machine here by a country mile. Mk 2 is pretty ok if you want to throw Leccee in something though.

Also.

>>13529829
>I was wondering if the V-Ups stacked...

They wouldn't be broken if you could only use one per machine, they're broken because a part that gives more power to units with more part slots is a fundamentally terrible idea.

>>13529844
Man, listening to the Wonderswan trying to strain to make that song work isn't really that pretty.

>>13529846
Ah, this is one of those things you mentioned in your cast list that was new to me in terms of SRW entries. Never heard of it, know absolutely nothing about it.

>>13529856
you think that's bad?
Try Burning Love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5N-ZC4I2PQ

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>>13529859
As I just said in another thread which was talking about things similar to Eva:

>It's been said a couple times, but Dual! PTA is pretty fun. Starts out as random silly harem antics a la Tenchi Muyo with giant robots (it's by the same people and is supposedly a part of the Tenchi multiverse, so...), then suddenly the MC gets kidnapped by the other side and it becomes "Everything is going fucking crazy, featuring Turn Granzon".
>Not the best show out there and some people don't like it, but it's generally well received by the people who have seen it. Also, FUCKING GOD TIER OPENING.

>>13529870
I already mentioned how Burning Love just has ISSUES with this system.

...I wonder if Love Is A Miracle would have worked better? I know Ai No Faraway probably would, the other early systems made it work, so maybe it could have too?

>>13529827
>Aura Battlers going hyper

I love it when that happens. I think only Jerril and Ban do it in this game though because Todd was recruitable early on.

I have fond memories of Jerril one-shotting Banjou because I didn't know anything about Aura Battler Dunbine and did not respect the hyper.

>>13529846
>Not giving Mk 2 to best girl

I don't know if we can be friends.

>>13529856
>>13529870
Heh. I can't help but love it. I guess it's because I grew up on the Sega Genesis and like music that sounds a bit low-quality.

And you should hear the Compact 3 Escaflowne bad guy theme that plays with the recruitable catgirls. It's rather...interesting to hear the Wonderswan try to do choral chanting.

>>13529874
>Starts out as random silly harem antics a la Tenchi Muyo

that sounds like a major turnoff

>>13529870
At least they did the right thing and put in Burning Love instead of For a Real Kiss.

Also, did you do that thing with Muge that gets you the Dancougaken?

>>13529886
Yeah, we've been through this song and dance.
I wonder.
What about Burning Rage?
>>13529889
yeah, I actually liked Castlevania Bloodlines
And the Escaflowne song you're referring to is... Epistle, I think. I'm actually going to rip it out of the game myself and upload it later, just as with these Compact 1 songs.

>>13529889
>I guess it's because I grew up on the Sega Genesis and like music that sounds a bit low-quality.

Fellow Genesis anon, huh? (Though I was a double agent and played it alongside the Nintendo stuff and never got to go to the Saturn and beyond) I'd love to hear Genesis-style versions of some robot music, best I found was somebody's version of Perfectio's theme somewhere.

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>>13529889
>I think only Jerril and Ban do it in this game though because Todd was recruitable early on.

Yep. Hyper Rhyneck isn't even in the game code.

>Not giving Mk 2 to best girl

...But I am. I said give it to Leccee.

>And you should hear the Compact 3 Escaflowne bad guy theme that plays with the recruitable catgirls. It's rather...interesting to hear the Wonderswan try to do choral chanting.

Now, on the other hand, the normal C3 Escaflowne theme.

Goddamn that was fucking great.

>>13529891
It also has this guy.

This guy, seriously.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejyBcX_gUNQ
I swear, I've never seen this show but it has some fucking FANTASTIC music.
>>13529905
Yes.

>>13529919
>It also has this guy.
>This guy, seriously.

he seems like he gives no fucks from that pic

>>13529889
oh yeah,
>Best Girl
>Amu
pick one

>>13529921
The only thing is, THAT FUCKING EN COST OH GOD.

Still, totally worth it, if only because MAPs that strong are great.

>>13529926
He's a great character. In the universe the MC comes from, he's a scientist who sends MC over to the parallel world, and in that world he's a military commander (if you remember my opening text scrawl thing he's Dr. Sonada). He basically just gives no fucks about everything and plays I AM MAD SCIENTIST about shit, and has this qt secretary who has to keep him in line and they get married. And then the ending comes and does shit to that, but SPOILERS SPOILERS REDACTED


Speaking of that though, if I had to name one thing about FIRST I'm glad I got out of the way well ahead of time? It was a way to make Dual's ending not be on the last stage of the game. Which I wanted to do, but my god it seemed impossible at first.

>>13529921
Escaflowne is fantastic and I think you've missed out on a really good show if you haven't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_49H_N43jQ

>>13529942
>He basically just gives no fucks about everything and plays I AM MAD SCIENTIST about shit

like Doctor Ver?

>>13529942
Is it something like Jigoku's end boss, where most people would have complained if something of that scale wasn't the last fight of the game?

Is the show generally on the optimistic scale or what? It already looks EVA-ish, I've no drive to go looking at something that's going to crap all over characters you get attached to, and happy fun time openings can be deceiving.

>>13529948
I'm offput by a lot of the ending stuff in Escaflowne, there's a lot of really dumb shit near the end. Visually fantastic though, if you're into that sort of thing (and let's face it, we all are deep down), and the music is goddamn great.

>>13529942
I'm pretty sure that can be supplemented.
>>13529948
Wow, VF. You said something without sounding completely off your rocker.
Anyway, I appreciate the recommendation, but I just have way too much dogpiled on me at the moment.

>>13529966
>Is it something like Jigoku's end boss, where most people would have complained if something of that scale wasn't the last fight of the game?

The actual fight itself isn't ridiculously incredible in scale, although ZINV limit breaking is, the problem is... well... ok, this is a pretty big spoiler and I don't want to have to spoil it for all of you, but the two worlds are collapsing so they rewrite space and time so both were always together if somewhat different. None of the robots are left either... except ZINV, who can survive reality collapsing in such a way that it is specifically written out because it's that fucking ridiculous, and the MC goes "making a choice? na, fuck that shit, get in my robot alternate self and let's go explore space together".

And yes, it's fun. There's a bit of dark in it (mostly when the protag arrives in the parallel world and is coming to grips with being in a world WHERE HE DOESN'T EXIST, and a bit near the end), but it's pretty light all throughout.

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>>13529942
>He basically just gives no fucks about everything and plays I AM MAD SCIENTIST about shit
Nice.

>>13529921
Escaflowne is great.

Its the closest thing we have to "What if Uncle Go did a Shojo?". Its got some brutal fight scenes and the mechs move with weight behind them. When Escaflowne skewers a mech it feels satisfying to watch.

Also, the true identity of the main bad guy is based, utterly based.

>>13529908
TRAITOR!

When general Ristar and general Vectorman lead us in uprising you will be the first up against the wall.

>>13529919
I'm friends with the IRL version of this guy.

>>13529930
I am triggered.
TRIGGERED.

>>13529969
>dumb shit near the end

Do you mean the Issac Newton thing about Dunkirk, the Atlantean angel boy with Van, the gender bender sister thing with Dilandu, or the whole plot revolving around an wish granting machine ?

Fun fact: If you know what you're doing in Compact 3 you can actually Kill Dilandu . Seeing as how this nets you a part while the alternative does not I have my suspicions that someone on staff didn't like the character.

>>13530007
I mostly mean everything having to do with WEAPONIZED SHIPPING, though the catgirl situation kind of pisses me off too. The rest of those aren't that bad (I totally saw the first coming anyway), except maybe Dilandau except I somehow guessed it was a girl at the start. No idea how I managed that.

>>13530007
Yeah....
When it comes to consoles, let's just say I like all of them. A hobby of mine is finding old consoles and different models that I then fix and touch up
I love fantasy mechs, which is why I have a soft spot for Dunbine.
But seriously, Amu a shit.

>>13530007
>When general Ristar and general Vectorman lead us in uprising you will be the first up against the wall.

Hey, Sonic and Cool Spot will have my back, so it's all good. (Come to think of it, much as I loved my Genesis, I never did have a huge selection for it there. Hell, I had the Sega CD and the only game for it came with it, and I never figured out how to play Sewer Shark back then.)

>>13530023
This guy gets it with consoles.

So, Compact 3 talk to remain in discussion. Of the 4 series that it used that still haven't been reused, which seems most likely to return one day? Escaflowne, Betterman, Acrobunch, or Mechander Robo?

>>13529856
>Man, listening to the Wonderswan trying to strain to make that song work isn't really that pretty.
I actually enjoy the Compact version of Time for L-Gaim. Obviously it's not as good as a vocal version because there's no MIO, but it's still catchy.

>>13529948
Escaflownase is a good series and helps stop congestion.

>>13530034
I want to say Betterman has a Better chance of getting in because GaoGaiGar's been in some of the games, right?

>>13530018
> He saw Newton coming

How did you do that?

>first spoiler

Oh shit! I actually forgot about that until you mentioned it! Man that was a weird episode.

>Catgirl situation kind of pisses me off to

You didn't like Folken's kitties?

>>13530023
>>13530034
>Liking all consoles
You fool! Don't you go to /v/? You're only allowed to like one console!

Alternatively, you're allowed to hate ALL consoles!

>I love fantasy mechs

The Dunbine damashi on my dresser and the Escaflowne model in my heart mean I must agree with you.

>Amu a shit
Ki...Kisama!

>>13530034
>I never did have a huge selection for it

That's because the Genesis had no games (weeps bitterly).

>>13530034
Betterman probably because it'll syn well with GGG who sometimes appears.

And it'll be nice to actually get to use Betterman .

Secretly I'm hoping for Mechander Robo. Because the death-missile was a fun mechanic and I'd like to see it again.


I long for a game with Escaflowne, Ryu Knight, Dunbine, Broken Blade, Xam'd, Panzer World Galient...could there be a SRW with an all-fantasy cast? You could use SD for the gundam slot and Mazinger USA for the Mazinger slot as a SS unit

>>13530093
They don't call me キサマ for nothing.
And by they I mean me.
Yes that's actually meant to be a pun
I just appreciate them for what they are, mainly because I fuck with computers for a living.

>>13530093
>You're only allowed to like one console!
>Alternatively, you're allowed to hate ALL consoles!

What can I say, I'm a rebel.

Alternatively, easy to please (read: shit taste). You're talking to an anon that likes K, OE, and Z3 here. (And BX, though opinion seems to have cooled down to a solid "meh" on it compared to the love-or-hate it had after release)

>That's because the Genesis had no games (weeps bitterly).

Well, at least quality made up for quantity, r-right?

>Secretly I'm hoping for Mechander Robo. Because the death-missile was a fun mechanic and I'd like to see it again.

Mechander had a cool look to it from what I see, and hey, someone put the trouble way back when into making it one of the fake entries in Z2 before it became a real thing. (And it was funny how many of the fake things did become a reality in the future of SRW in general)

I'd want Acrobunch back just for the theme.

>>13530093
>How did you do that?

They flashback to Hitomi in class where they learn about Issac Newton midway through the show, completely unfitting with everything else.

It's a pretty big warning sign.

>Mazinger USA for the Mazinger slot as a SS unit

Or just use God Mazinger for christsake.

>>13530134
The episode with the Newton lecture is after the reveal, though. The reveal is like, episode 16 and the weird time repeat episode is 23 or 24.

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And that should just about wrap things up.

I'm really impressed with how the Yukari fight went - she was a damn good challenge despite having jack shit for damage output (seriously, all of her attacks were 500-1000 points weaker than Flan's arsenal, and even with the larger size modifier she was still doing a tiny fraction of Flan's damage, at least to my beefier units). It just goes to show that "big ball of HP with a 1-12 range, 9999 power ALL" isn't the only way to do a final boss.

Excellent game, all things considered. I'm looking forward to seeing what horrifying torments Eternal has in store for me.

>>13530093
The issue with an all-fantasy roster is that generally, fantasy mechas tend to be really small by SRW standards. I can't name one fantasy mecha that would be considered Size L or larger other than FSS stuff or Demonbane. The former will never get into SRW and the latter stretches the definition of "fantasy series" somewhat.

>>13530159
It was distinctly before the big reveal though, I know that, because they show him off and go "HEY LOOK THIS VILLAIN IS TOTALLY SIR ISSAC NEWTON MOTHERFUCKER" and everyone acts shocked at this big reveal but here I was going "but didn't you basically outright state that like six or so episodes ago?

>>13530164
Also, to the anon who said that Yukari is guaranteed at least one turn of her last spellcard: she's not.

I used the first two turns of the previous spell to soften her up and get everyone into position, and on the last turn everyone was ready to pounce the moment she pulled back to the tree. She went down relatively easily after that.

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>>13530093
>Because the death-missile was a fun mechanic and I'd like to see it again.
WAT *HEAD ASPLODES*

>>13530131
>Fake Entries
Remember when all the fake Z3 leaks were better than the actual product we got?

>>13530165
>The issue with an all-fantasy roster is that generally, fantasy mechas tend to be really small by SRW standards
So we're going to repeat UX then

>>13530165
If size is an issue make some big-ass fantasy OG mechs.

In addition to masoukishin of course, don't look at me like that.

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>>13530188
>In addition to masoukishin of course, don't look at me like that.
Of course

>>13530179
I blame UX for giving us Demonbane, it gave us hope thinking that it could be included in Z3.2.

>>13530188
You know I can wait until we get Rayblade/Raveraid.
Better yet it appears in OG3 and receives a permanent power up at the GONG event.
>>13530179
I wish G Gundam could make another appearance in a 2D SRW.

>>13530179
Half of those fake lists had series that needed to show up earlier to work.

>>13530134
>God Mazinger
>Kingdom of Mu

Perfect way to tie Raideen into the game.

Raideen doesn't get enough love. His plot happened offscreen in the Alpha series and he was reduced to RahXephon's sidekick in MX.

>>13530131
>K
It had GunXSword, Fafner, and freaking ZOIDS.

ZOIDS.

I instantly found it in my heart to forgive it of its sins.

>Z3
>BX
Haven't gotten to them yet

>OE
...man, fuck OE. Not even Patlabor and being able to use all of Chirico's OVA squaddies on the same team could save it

>r-right

W-We always have Gunstar Heroes! T-Take that Nintendo kiddies!

>>13530165
>FSS never
IT STILL HURTS

If we add Raideen and God Mazinger we have two. Demonbane would be an alright fit (and add another guy from Earth). Add in the OG mech and that makes four. Add in the Masoukinshin and I think we're good.

Another fun thought experiment would be a Super Robot Wars cast of pre-Mazinger Z works (and including original Mazinger Z).

Mazinger Z

Tetsujin 28

Giant Robo (and with a Yokoyama team up move with Tetsujin)

Babel II (Maybe Poseidon has a team attack with GR and Tetsujin? Regardless, GIANT PTERODACTYL ROBOT UNIT)

Astro Boy

Ambassador Magma

The Devil Garon (With a FINAL TEZUKA SPECIAL with Astro and Magma)

Cyborg 0009 (Oh look, its SRW W all over again!)


>>13530179
It hurts that this isn't a real game.

>>13530219
>...man, fuck OE. Not even Patlabor and being able to use all of Chirico's OVA squaddies on the same team could save it

But it has Zoids? According to you, that absolves it of any sin.

> a Super Robot Wars cast of pre-Mazinger Z works (and including original Mazinger Z).

You forgot Astroganger.

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>>13530219
Either you forgot Mars or it's post-Mazinger Z but either way I'm too lazy to check

>>13530222
>Astroganger
He'd be right at home with the the weirdness of Ambassador Magma.

...Would 001 be an attack for 002?

...Would the accelerator grant 009 auto enable each turn in exchange for a chunk of energy?

...Would Pluto be a recruitable enemy? Astro Boy is overflowing with convinceable robot enemies.

...Would Uran be playable?


>>13530179
>Head Asplodes

It was just fun finding ways to deal with it. Usually I just sent Great Mazinger with Wall to eat it for the team. But I remember a cool moment when Dunbine's aura shield ate the whole explosion SOMEHOW.

It also killed all the Mazinger Z enemies for me. So I never actually got to see them fight.


>>13530255
It was post Mazinger Z by a few years, but I don't see any good reason not to fudge the rules for it.

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I know this is nitpicking but
>I could care less
I mean really that's what you go with?
Not "I couldn't care less"?

>>13530222
>Absolves it of any sins

It has TWO Zoids. And even then it wasn't enough.

It even had Sergeant Frog.

It could have had Voltron and Power Rangers and it STILL wouldn't have saved itself from how dull it was.

>>13530219
>...man, fuck OE. Not even Patlabor and being able to use all of Chirico's OVA squaddies on the same team could save it

Maybe it's just because I was able to cheat the hell out of the game to make it easier (underleveled stat degradation aside), but I feel OE was flawed more in the execution than anything else. Taking the basic idea of "jam as many series as possible into one game, coherent/complex story be damned" doesn't exactly seem like a terrible idea on paper, since it gives people plenty to choose from in terms of favorite mecha or new ones to try. And for a PSP game compared to the GC/NEO style it aped, it still looked pretty good.

The main issue aside from the 3D style was going overboard with the DLC aspect, if only in the freeware-esque "pay for experience boosters, extra upgrade slots, etc" thing they did.

Might be just me, but if they wanted to make another attempt at the idea of a game bloated with over 30 series just for the sake of having a large variety of a cast, I'd be up for it. Though I'd want them going back to 2D just to see what it looked like. Imagine 30+ series animated with...what's the best animation caliber in SRW, 2nd OGs?

>>13530298
Oh yes. The heartbreaking thing about the game is that it SHOULD have been good. The roster was pure wish fulfillment. You could actually field an army of Scope Dogs out of characters that canonically died in VOTOMS.

One think that irked me was that there was so little variety in bad guys. The only Gurren Laggan rep was Viral. That's just a waste.

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Segment III - Sally (Compact Version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHl0-6Me01U

I was specifically waiting for Nu's appearance to upload it.
That said, I think I forgot about Last Impression.
Oh well.

>>13530313
They need to use this less and Beyond the Time more. It is the one true CCA song.

>>13530308
>One think that irked me was that there was so little variety in bad guys.

MUCUS
MUCUS EVERYWHERE
[spoiler[With 3 Dark Gosaurers as reinforcements.[/spoiler]

I did like how some of the story seemed to embrace the nonsensical inclusions in the cast. As far as I could gather the plot of OE, there were two main 'verses you could travel, a normal SRW and the one that had some of the more off-beat series like Lamune, Zoids, and Ryunight, where G Gundam also resided.

But then other series get shoved in by pure chance, completely unrelated. Goshogun doesn't know why it's here, Code Geass got flung all over the place, Dunbine was "whoops, I summoned the wrong guy," and Gurren Lagann apparently just kept digging and accidentally dug straight into another universe.

It's hilarious as far as hand-waves go.

Speaking of VOTOMs and other characters in the roster, I'm surprised OE made no effort to put Ypsilon or Puru 2 in the roster, since both survive their encounters in the late game.

>>13530328
>CCA songs used in SRW
>SALLY
>MAIN TITLE
>BEYOND THE TIME
and in one bizarre case
>Nu Gundam

They should use this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYFim53MPUw

Of course, if they already have, I'm just making myself look stupid.

>>13530336
>With 3 Dark Gosaurers

Oh yes, I remember now. They definitely liked recycling stuff from NEO.

>>13530336
Did they ever get to explaining how Zoids Chaotic Century exists alongside New Century when New Century is the future of Chaotic Century?

>>13530336
>I'm surprised OE made no effort to put Ypsilon or Puru 2 in the roster, since both survive their encounters in the late game.

The only series without an "I'm surprised you didn't obtain X" in OE was the originals.

>>13530351
>when New Century is the future of Chaotic Century?

That's not QUITE true. (rather, it's as true as New Century eventually leading to Fuzors is, and as true as Fuzors eventually leading to Genesis is - there were events similar to the "preceding" series every time, but enough differences in plot that it isn't)

But even if it was true, the answer in OE is obvious. There was no New Century plot to speak of in OE, it only showed up for Wild Weasel Gunsnipers and Naomi/Leena's custom Gunsnipers as DLC.

>>13530351
I don't know much about Zoids, but I'd say their explanation about amounted to the explanation they gave Ruuji from Zoids Genesis. Especially considering they didn't even use the MC from CC, just the two girls in their custom variants of those Raptor-type enemies.

"Hey, these people exist in this timeline instead! They have their mechs, too! Not their story, but their mechs, at least!"

It's similar to how a number of alternate-verse Gundams were put in as squads involved in the OYW.

>>13530352
Yeah. No Aina or Norris from 08th MS Squad. Absolutely no one else from Gurren Lagan. None of the GoShogun baddies. No Jakku Satan from Raijin Oh. Etc, etc.

>>13530358
>Only Naomi and Leena

...You're kidding, right? Please tell me that's not it.

>>13530368
>...You're kidding, right? Please tell me that's not it.

...you didn't know?

Oh. Shit. Uh. Well.

Damn, now I feel bad. Didn't want to have to be the one to break that to someone.

>>13530367
>>13530374

>No Liger Zero with switchable armor
>No Jamie with Wild Eagle mode
>No weird scenario fights with dark judge giving you rules to follow


MY SMILE AND OPTIMISM:GONE

>>13530271
It's a fan translation, key emphasis on fan.

Grammatical errors, misuse of terms, and the like will be fairly standard.

If you really want something to complain about, however, then I suggest checking out the translation of Romancing SaGa 3.

There are worse ones out there, but that one kinda stings because I really wanted to play that game.

>>13530385
Yeah I know there are worst ones out and like I said I'm just nitpicking.
How bad was the Romancing SaGa 3 translation by the way?
De-Jap bad?

>matt actually likes dual

Mah nigguh. I`m always the faggot that puts dual andvandread in cast lists and it always seemed like nobody gave a fuck about it.

Cant wait for it to get in with that openingand just to see zinv fuck some shit up

>>13530399
I can't say anything about how good of a translation the game was, as the sentence structure and overall grammar was so bad that everything just seemed like gibberish.

>>13530382
Not even one of them.

That's hardly the only odd Zoids choice. Raven starts as an enemy in his Saber Fang, and then you beat that and he upgrades to... Genobreaker. Yeah, they COMPLETELY SKIP Genosaurer here! And on top of that, no MP Genosaurers, and no Reese. And you get Rosso and Viola... albeit that they only stay with you permanently if you get a DLC stage... but they're stuck in a Redler and a Red Horn, you never get Storm Sworders for them.

>>13530433
Oh, and of course, NO ONE FROM GENESIS ASIDE FROM RUUJI SHOWING UP.

LIKE, NOT EVEN ONE PERSON.

>>13530271
I always considered both "I could care less" and "I couldn't care less" to be proper English slang since I've heard both in real life and it's sort of like "inflammable" and "flammable" in that you think they would mean the opposite of each other but aren't.

>>13530399
RS3 fan-translation is "understandable" but it's a very dry almost literal ENG -> JP translation with some really amateur mistakes.

It even makes the big amateur mistake I keep seeing in bad fan-translations - mistranslating "Amai" as "Sweet" (when used in a battle context and not like eating food)

(Admittingly, the original RS3 Japanese script was actually pretty damn dry too and I don't really want to see a Working Designs translation, but RS3's fantrans is way too robotic)

>>13530409
There's a different Dual fan? I thought it was 100% Matt.

>>13530503
I've never heard anyone use "I could care less"
I suppose it's just an American thing or Australia is just a very backwards country.

Well getting slightly on topic, goodness I can't believe the things Tetsujin 2004 made me feel.
No wonder everyone calls it a feels simulator.

>>13530514
>I've never heard anyone use "I could care less"
No, "I could care less" is only used by ignorant savages.

>>13530503
>There's a different Dual fan? I thought it was 100% Matt.

I'm fairly certain there are at least three or four people on /m/ who aren't me that like that show.

>>13530526
That's a crude way of putting it, but yeah, basically.

>>13530547
>I'm fairly certain there are at least three or four people on /m/
Give or take four

>>13530468
At least Murasame Liger is high to top tier. That's always a good thing.

Just wondering, how many MCs have been school students?

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>SRWJ
>awesome animations
>actually translated
>Motherfucking Zeorymer and OVA Mazinkaiser
>no Getter robo whatsoever
>SRW W
>Getter and Voltron
>but no Zeorymer
>not translated

>>13530597
>Voltron

>>13530595
Depends if you mean "in age" or "actually seen going to school". The latter happens a lot less.
There's Touya, Kakeru, Ichitaka, Alpha's super robot protags, and Hibiki. Kazuma went to school for maybe a month or two but usually he just gets homeschooled in the family's space pirate ship.

>>13530601
There is literally nothing wrong with call Golion Voltron

>>13530604
>Depends if you mean "in age" or "actually seen going to school".

Both, really. But mostly the latter.

>>13530585
>high to top

No, it's just straight top tier, alongside Final Dancouga, the Macross Quarter, and one or two other guys.

>>13530606
There are a number of things I could name wrong about it.

For instance, and for the only example that matters here, part of what makes Golion's plot in W work are things that aren't present in Voltron.

SRW W
Detonator Orgun
Full Metal Panic
GaoGaiGar
Martian Successor Nadesico
Voltron
Teknoman
Tranzor Emperor
True Dragun
Doozybots SEED
Doozybots Wing

i still don't know wtf a martian successor is

>>13529324
Both were designed by Katoki
So I guess you could say the R-3 is the GP-03's imouto