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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-11-09/scene-in-gundam-iron-blooded-orphans-causes-viewer-complaints/.95182

>The Japanese Broadcasting Ethics and Program Improvement Organization (BPO) watchdog group has recently published viewer complaints for October, one most likely stemming from a scene in Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans. The complaint refers to an anime where "several nonresistant prisoners and enemy soldiers are gunned down by the young male protagonist." It does not directly name Iron-Blooded Orphans in the complaint.

> The grievance also stated concern of children watching the mecha anime, expressing worry over the potential influence that such a violent scene could have of child viewers.

>"If you look at the title, one would immediately think of this as a children's show and that many children would be watching."
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Media watchdogs exist in Japan?
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>>13482931
>Iron Blooded Orphans
Yes this clearly sounds like a kid show
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>>13482931
What do you expect from the USA colony?
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isn't mika like 15? that's totally not child-age in Japan
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>>13482941

Yeah? They only intervene on primetime and kids' shows. They made a couple of precure or whatever-type shows change some lewd outfits and I assume GIBO airs in primetime like other gundams.
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>>13482931

This is awesome. I like that for a Gundam show it's pushing boundaries like old school shows. Also they don't mention anything about the kids getting sniped in the head.
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Early cancellation when?
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>>13482931
That scene was nothing compared to shit mecha did in the 80's.
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>>13482931
>If you look at the title, one would immediately think of this as a children's show
isn't it a reference to the Japanese army of WW2's version of the Hitler Youth?
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>>13482941

Yeah, but they go after different stuff. They're basically the opposite of America. Sexually suggestive stuff is a-ok, but they tend to dislike violence.
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They were resisting.
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>>13482945
He's a manlet which apparently is enough to rustle some jimmies.
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>>13482952
You mean like Seed did with Kira's sex scene with Flay?
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I'd be more concerned that IBO is teaching kids to shoot their enemy before he finishes saying thank you. That's terrible manners.
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>>13482966
but he's ripped like a manlet too
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>>13482959
Those were the bad times for kids indeed.
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>>13482963
Case in point, they forced the Bobobo-Bo Bo-Bobo anime to get cancelled when they thought it "encouraged" bullying (even though the show clearly is a parody).
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>>13482963
At least they use non-twisted logic.
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>>13482983
i'd like to know more on this. enlighten me, senpai?
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>>13482931
>"If you look at the title, one would immediately think of this as a children's show and that many children would be watching."
>Gundam Tekketsu no Orphan
>Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans

Yes, nothing says kids show like blood and orphan in the title.
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>>13482931
Because "Iron-Blooded Orphans" totally sounds like a kids show
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Well Mika is a monster so it isn't that surprising.
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Personally, I hope this means the show will get cancelled so we can get back to what Gundam really needs.

More AGE.
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>>13482960
They're more like non-nazi WWII kids though. My granddad's brother made false documents to enlist. He was 15.
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So the kids who got sniped by trained soldiers, the scumbag who went out of his way to engage combatants, the faglord attempting bribery, the bunch of cowards attempting to flee using children as scapegoats and had the gall to return when the fighting was done, and the shitbag who tried to sell out the orphans, didn't make the radar. It's okay to go out of way be a murderer, as long as you're involved in an authority, or it's okay to be a lying scumbag as long as people don't die within your sight or reach. These are "within ethics".

But when children in the lawless underground of society turn on their captors after having had enough, there's a complaint. What did they expect? The first and last thing First Group leader did upon Orga opening negotiating terms was to try and rush Orga!

And they let the rest of the prisoners go, too, so "several" is really stretching it there.
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>>13482931
Oh yes, and nothing speaks "kids show" like homo erotic undertones and fujoshi panda-ring
What the fuck did these people expect when they read "Iron-Blooded Orphans"? The farm episode to be 90% of the show?
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>>13483004
VF, honestly I liked you a whole lot more when you actually talked about serious things, and recommendations, and stuff like that instead of solely shit/funposting.

And I know if I get a response, it'll be something along the lines of "-Signed, Mari Okada" but still, just something I thought you should know.
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Don't these fuckers know anything? Kids play videogames, only 30-something losers watch Gundam.
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>>13482997
There are plenty of orphan stories for kids though.
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>>13482931
>Mika triggers SJWs

Best Gundam protagonist in years
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>>13483004
C'mon old man. You can do better than that.
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>>13483018

>that pic

Wot
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>>13483029
Didn't you hear? Kuledia-sama has a shit-ton of art
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>>13482931
>"If you look at the title, one would immediately think of this as a children's show"
>Orphans
>BLOOD AND IRON
youdensemotherfucker.jpg
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>>13483033

Oh its alright I thought it was from the show for a second that's a lot more disappointing
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>>13483021
I still do, when given the opportunity, but a lot of the times there's genuinely no reason to take things so seriously.

What's funny is that when I do say something serious, people tend to assume I'm just fucking around and acting like a crazy old guy on the internet again.

So, in the end, it's a matter of selective vision. You see what you want to see. Am I just being a crazy old guy on the internet, or do I really just want more AGE?

That's for you to decide.

Signed, Mari Okada.
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>>13483016
>But when children in the lawless underground of society turn on their captors after having had enough, there's a complaint. What did they expect? The first and last thing First Group leader did upon Orga opening negotiating terms was to try and rush Orga!

Remember, High School of the Dead is shocking to these people because it has teenagers using guns and operating cars without a license. Look what Shino goes through in SWO. Killed a robber with his own gun to protect her mother, and everyone treats her like a monster.

To the Japanese, children are supposed to be incapable of killing and dependent on adults.
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>>13483018
>What the fuck did these people expect when they read "Iron-Blooded Orphans"? The farm episode to be 90% of the show?
If that were the case then Japan's modern otaku would eat it up.
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>>13483036
Oh you wish
We all wish
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>>13483021
I agree with this anon.
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>>13483038
>Signed, Mari Okada.
FOR FUCK'S SAKE SAHIB
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>>13483038
>anyone wanting more AGE
Highly unlikely, I'll go with A.
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>>13483039
>To the Japanese, children are supposed to be incapable of killing and dependent on adults.
Well that should be true for any place and when kids are killing people it is pretty shocking
But when it's Gundam, where kids killing people is a staple
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>>13483053
I wouldn't mind more AGE, honestly.
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>>13483046
You have no idea how dumb of a grin I have on my face right now.
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>>13482941
Why do you think Go Nagai got famous? He and his generation went against that with a force of a thousand suns and nearly won.
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>>13483018
>What the fuck did these people expect when they read "Iron-Blooded Orphans"?

That the story was about a bunch of orphans who had a healthy amount of iron in their blood?
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You fucking autists don't know about kids books and shows about poor children who suffer, do you? Really? How can you judge the name if you have no idea what does it say no a Nip ear? Maybe it sounds like something fit for kids.
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>>13483062
Well, if the nanomachines are made of iron it's not far off
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>>13482931
An yet no one complains about kids shooting up their parents in 00, or mobile suits gunning them down in droves from the same series.

Lemme guess, it's because they're not Japanese (by nationality), right?
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>>13483068
Neither were the guys in IBO.
Hell, they aren't even from Earth as far as I know, so you can be as indifferent to their deaths as if they were aliens.
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>>13482991
>At least they use non-twisted logic.

I'd much rather have violence in my entertainment then pointless sex pandering. Besides, it has been proven that early exposure to sex fucks with a child's development where as violence, unless it's gore, has zero negative effect.
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>>13483054
Yeah, but it's not quite the same as executing people in cold blood.

Hell, you guys think this is why we get protags like Kira and Kio? Or how Shinn is supposed to be evil for killing enemy soldiers?
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Was AGE really that bad? I never bothered and wasn't keeping up with /m/ when it aired.
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>>13483068
Neither is Mika, he probably doesn't even know what Japan is. He's less Japanese than Setsuna was.
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NOBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT PURUS
POOR PURUS ARE KILLED AND RAPED BY A SENILE OLD MAN
STOP IT, JAPAN
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>>13483084
>Was AGE really that bad?
Get comfy. You're going to get a lot of mixed reviews
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>>13482941
Media watchdogs exist in any country with parents that give a shit about the well being of their children.

>>13482959
>comparing a movie to a tv show

moron
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>>13483087
Purus are designed to suffer.
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>>13483087
>>13483092
It's sad but true
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>>13483063
機動戦士ガンダム 鉄血のオルフェンズ

"Kidou Senshi Gundam Tekketsu no Orphan"

Tekketsu means Iron and blood.
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>>13483082

>[citation needed]
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>>13483076
>>13483085
IBO still has some of the most Japanese-sounding names of any Gundam series.
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>>13483084
I'd give it a 7/10. It didn't really bore me at any point, and it was pretty enjoyable, although some parts made me actually cringe.

7/10 would put it about on par with Victory or Destiny in my book, though, so take it as you will.
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>>13482931
I honestly thought the scene when they killed the old leader was darker
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>>13482931
>just as keikakulued
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Can I get the Gundam Chronological Complet Series info pic thing? I lost track of where I was after Wing.
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>>13483084
It's writing goes to shit towards the end, the pacing is bad, way to many characters never get any development, but its greatest flaw is really just that it is overall very dull.
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>>13483098
Maybe if you weren't a worthless NEET and had gone to university I wouldn't have to spoon feed you such a universally accepted fact. Besides, why should I waste time linking to a book when you provided no source of your own to back your point? Clearly the facts are irrelevant to you to begin with.
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>>13483102
Where he got vaporized you mean?
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>>13483082
Wrong. I got fucked in the ass when I was four and I turned out alright.
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>>13483108
Writing went to shit when they decided Asemu needed to whine about how he wasn't an X-Rounder.

Nothing Kio's Arc did was as bad as the X-Rounder Helmet arc.

Griard Spriggan was a masterpiece in comparison.
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>>13483004
>More Age
NO
MORE G-RECO

I DEMAND MORE G-RECO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>13483092
>>13483094
WE GONNA TAKE MORE ISLANDS IF THEY WILL NOT GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER BY 2020
RETCON ALL DEATHS
TWO BOMBS WEREN'T ENOUGH
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>>13483111
There's that pic again.
That guy is a hypocritical example of what he's talking about, even.
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What's IBO's timeslot anyway?
I though G-Reco got a late night slot that Tomino was pretty butthurt about. Seems like they should've done that for this.
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Am I the only one that thinks this is deliberate publicity stunt to stir up audience numbers? It's like SEED's sex scene all over again.
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>>13483097
>Tekketsu means Iron and blood.
You clearly can't understand that things are differet in different languages and cultures.
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>>13483122
Sundays at 5:30PM JST
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>>13483118
>Retcon their deaths when three of them were on-screen
They're gone, anon. I know the pain, I feel it like you, but you must move on
You can't bring them back, Anon
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>>13483125
Tekketsu does not imply anything kid friendly in Japanese language or culture.
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They forgot to put the prisoners in their robots, THEN gun them down. Should've done it like Jesus Yamato.
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>>13483124
No way, Anonymous.

Companies would never pay people to cause up a stink so that they can give their products more exposure.

You just go out there and enjoy your Pepsi.

Or Cola.

Whichever you prefer.

Don't have to start a WAR over it, you know.
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>>13483082
Yes, animu sex pandering is shit. I mean at least they don't say watching erotical content can harm people in any way but blood and gore is OK somehow.
>it has been proven that early exposure to sex fucks with a child's development
Ha-ha.
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>>13483147
>there will never be an actual Pepsi-Coke War
God dammit.
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>>13483043
I don't
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>>13483124
>read ANN comments
>"Oh really. Now I REALLY gotta watch this series."
Looks like it's working.
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>>13483147
>You just go out there and enjoy your Pepsi.
>Or Cola.
>Whichever you prefer.
>Don't have to start a WAR over it, you know.

Fuck soda altogether. Milk is the way to go.
>It's delicious
>It's full of vitamins
>Rich in calcium and protein
>Can be used in baking
>Can mix things into it to make it even more delicious
>Doesn't dehydrate you like soda does
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>>13483146
No no, Jesus would put them in robots, then have them RUN INTO the bullets/beams/swords.
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>>13483111
>universally accepted fact
It isn't *universally* accepted though. Also are you from USA? It was universally accepted there that niggers can't piss in the same toilets as whites not so long ago. Kids are naturally interested in sex, only ignorant and hypocritical people will mix this and what everyone do when they play hospital with rape and sexual abuse.
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>>13483186
>>13483146
You're both wrong, you put them in the ships.
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>>13483176
>Doesn't dehydrate you like soda does
That's a myth. What isn't a myth is that adult stomachs aren't intended to still be consuming milk.
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The problem isn't that there's bad shit happening, they're talking specifically just about the young protagonist--and therefore someone the kids will unconsciously take as a role model--committing war crimes.

Whatever gritty stuff happens doesn't matter so much as long as it's not the main character doing it.

Still kind of laughable for a variety of reasons, one that while kids are impressionable they're also capable of thinking for themselves.
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>>13483199
I don't see any people there.
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>>13483202
Fuck me, Tommy.

Where'd you learn all of that?
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>>13483199
>Kira doesn't kill
Where did this meme comes from? He always kills.
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>>13483203
>kids will unconsciously take as a role model--committing war crimes
War crimes are made because of orders actually. Also Ninking joke.
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>>13483208
I know a guy.
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>>13483202
>adult stomachs aren't intended to still be consuming milk
Still most people drink it and feel great.
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>>13483202
But soy and almond milk taste fucking terrible.
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>>13483202
>adult stomachs aren't intended to still be consuming milk.
I'm drinking a cup of hot cocoa and I feel great. I beg to differ
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>>13483219
Soy milk tastes great you fucking freak.
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>>13483221
>Soy milk
>Great
Not the Anon but that's incredibly wrong
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>>13483223
Bull fucking shit, I drink it everyday, and it's tasty as fuck.
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>>13483220
He's probably black and can't experience the joy of milk. .
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>>13483232
But I love milk
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>>13483230
Who the heck drinks milk everyday? That soy milk must be messing with your brain
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>/m/ - milk

I can't say I'm not enjoying this dietary derail.
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>>13483232
I'm not even black, you dumb shit. And I drink milk all the time, both cow and soy.

>>13483235
Fuck you nigga, you're talkin' bitch-ass talk!
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>>13483249
>I'm not even black
>Fuck you nigga, you're talkin' bitch-ass talk!
Ladies and gentlemen of the Spacenoid jury, I give you Soymilk drinkers
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>>13482931
G-Reco didn't have this problem, that's how you know it did good.
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>>13483257
Shut up white boy!
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>>13483258
G-Reco didn't receive any viewer complaints because it didn't have any viewers in the first place.
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>>13483262
I wish i drank soy milk and was angry all the time
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>>13483271
I watched it.
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>>13483271
Actually, it had strong ratings for a late night anime with a rating around 2%.
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>>13483284
Yeah, and IBO probably has somewhere around 80%.
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>>13483288
citation needed
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>>13483288
Yeah, well Giant Robo had like 1000% viewership and everyone who watched it GOT LAID THE SAME DAY

>can IBO even hope to achieve such greatness?
>no.
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>>13483289
>probably

>>13483298
Those were special circumstances, it would be foolish to expect another show to get those results.
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>>13483302
If your show isn't even capable of 999% viewership

don't even talk to me

don't even talk about it

it's best not to mention it lest you suffer absolute defeat at my hands.
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>>13483298
Old man don't lie, only half of them got laid.

IBO will get maybe two, three people laid, at most, though.
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>>13483306
Man, you seem like a real master debater.
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>>13483308
I got laid and that's all that matters.

I went absolutely nasty.

An absolute orgasm inducing monster.

My cunnilingus game is rated at danger level "dragon" by a certain organization.
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>>13483320
>danger level "dragon"
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>>13483320
Your mother isn't an organization.
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>>13483084

It is possibly the worst Gundam series I've seen, in laziness and poor scripting. More, it's very ugly-looking. I would argue that Destiny is worse, but I like Destiny's designs better (marginally) until all the recycled footage.

I also liked the war in Destiny marginally better, too.
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>>13483347
GodDAMN shit is happening in here
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>>13483347
G'damn
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>>13483288
Last time I checked IBO was in 3% for the first 3 episodes.
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>>13483402
Close enough.
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>>13483374
>it's not the one that loops perfectly
Sempai, pls.
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>>13483006
>>13482960

Japan wasn't a nazi nation, and the boy scouts was founded for the same reason as the hitler youth group, they are exactly like american and german kids in that they were pulled into a war by circumstances and propaganda.
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>>13483084
I liked AGE better then G-RECO. its just that Vegans were such poor villians and really story wasn't meant to be over 3 generations long. But Flit was awesome and Asemu was cool before he became a gay pirate, even kio was alright until he became kira.
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>>13483006
Did he like to play the piano?
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>>13483451
>I liked AGE better then G-RECO.

Holy shit that taste...sasuga tripfag
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>>13483199
That ship is completely hollow
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>>13483497
at least i could tell were they were going with this shit and not just a old mans confusing mess of a message.
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>>13483147
Exactly.

Now let's join my Neutral 3rd party of A&WEUG so we can bring peace to the land.
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>>13483437
I was just referring to "the other side".

>>13483490
He a counrty boy so prolly no.
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>>13483320
I bet the ladies all call you the One Shot Man.
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>>13483506
Why did it explode then?
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>>13483106

I got you.
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>>13483512
>at least i could tell were they were going
I mean if the only place to go is down, sure, Ruri.
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>>13483512
Maybe you should try paying attention to things

Just a thought
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>>13482941
Yes and they're extremely powerful in terms of influence. Even toy companies tiptoe around them. Or maybe it's because toy companies are big they tiptoe.
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>>13482942
Pretty sure it's the "Gundam".

Thank Build Fighters
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>>13483549
sempai notcied me,
but really kato, a destination is better than no goal at all ant watching reco gives you that feeling. Do you really think reco is good though? Just asking...
>>13483558
Reco bakas always say this but the truth is the fault lies with writer if he isn't making things easy to follow, especially if his intended target is kids. AGE does a better job at being a Kids show
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>>13483122
G Reco aired the episodes again at a reasonable hour the next day I think. No idea why it got such a late timeslot for the new episodes though.
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>Marika, Ruri, and Old Man VF all in the same thread
itt: 2012
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>>13483627
Eh, it was better than AGE.
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>>13483641
Yeah, i was just less offended by AGE cause there was low expectations. I don't hate reco but i hate the defense force that puts it up like its avant garde.
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>>13483122
>Tomino was pretty butthurt about

Do you just make shit up?
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>>13483217
People snort coke and feel great, too.Your point?
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Did people forgotten with how Gundam 00 started during the beginning of the first episode, cause that started out with war orphans? Did they make a big deal after that?
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>>13483512
>confusing mess of a message.

What's so confusing about WAR IS BAD, WAR MONGERS ARE BAD, and LEARNING WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM

That's fucking it. How stupid are you??
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>>13483694
Except war orphans' actions are potrayed as negative and Setsuna wants to make up for it, while IBO shows Mika's actions in a positive light
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>>13483700
yeah but the war was stupid, everything was stupid and weird. that's where he failed.
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>>13483705
So you didn't pay attention?

I thin IBO is perfect for you, where a Term like Taiwez is explained in detail moments after it's brought up
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>>13483715
I knew why they were fighting. i just didn't think they were very competent outside of the megafauna who were really just carried by Bell and his OP gself packs. the spacenoids just had no business being there. its would have better to have been ameria vs gowandan. or rolled but venus and towasgawa into one. its messy, thats all. and messy=not good
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>>13483715
>Terms should never, ever be explained
OH MY SU-CORD
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Is there no IBO general at the moment? Oh well. Instead of making a new thread, I'm just gonna post this here...

Anyway. It might be based on the fact that he's blonde, and that his bad attitude makes me think he might defect Tekkadan eventually... But what if Eugene becomes our Char?

I dunno. Maybe he's not smart enough, or a good enough pilot. But I've just got a wild hunch.
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>>13483735
We already have a Char, an Angelo, and a Bushido.
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>>13483728
>People are too stupid to pick stuff up from context
>Need to explain the same term every single episode in case they forgot

Did you know that the Calamity War was 300 years ago? Did you also know that the Alaya-Vijnana system is a really old and dangerous implant to increase pilot performance with mobile suits?

Oh doesn't matter, let me remind you again. Every single episode.
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>>13483738
Yeah, it would be much better to bring them up once and then never mention them again or explain them at any point.
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>>13483735
>what if Eugene becomes our Char?

No way. He comes off as one of those undying loyalty type of characters
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>>13483735
Nah, if anything, he's our Kai.
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>>13483106
>>13483539
Latest one.
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>>13482931
>If you look at the title, one would immediately think of this as a children's show and that many children would be watching."
I thought we passed the point where just because it has "Gundam" in it doesn't mean it's for kids only

wait, let me rephrase that
THIS IS NO KIDS SHOW BOY! NO KIDS SHOW

although in the protestor's defence it does air at 5pm sunday, a time slot usually reserved for more family friendly shows, so the network does have some responsibility there
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>>13483741
I just feel like one way or another, he's going to get tired of Orga's shit and leave.
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>>13483746
Here's an improved version.
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>>13483756
>Improved
>Destiny isn't considered the worst entry in the franchise

Yeah no
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>>13483765
>"Nah Destiny's definitely the worst entry in the franchise guys."
>"Sure, ZZ, F91, Wing, G-Saviour, AGE, Build Fighters Try, and G-Reco exist, but nah, Destiny's the worst. Not one of the worst, but the absolute worst. Trust me."

No thanks.
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gundam is kiddyshit deal with it nerds.
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>>13483756
Stop that. For all its faults AGE never reached the disappointment that was Destiny's original airing (i.e. unremastered).
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>>13483775
Wing is far worse as an overall work, and G-Reco was worse to watch while it was airing.
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>All Kudelia and Atra do on the ship is cook and teach.

Kek.
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>Iron blooded babbys mad that parents don't want their kids to grow up to be edgelords like them
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>>13483084
First ten episodes are garbage, after they get the Titus things pick up, and stay up until the last half of Kios arc. Then everything goes downhill fast.

Pretty great ride up until then, worth a watch. Woolf best CO, Asemu most supa piroto.
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>>13483770
>Build Fighters Try
>Better than vanilla Build Fighters

BUILD KNUCKLE
I ATTUNED MY BLADE TO THE FREQUENCY OF THE PARTICLES
BUUUUILDOOOOOKNUCKERUUUUUU
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>>13482931
Not surprised but it won't effect shit especially Mika's development will most likely take him down the killing is badong path

Also would IBOfags please stop spaming threads.
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>>13483746
thanks bro!
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They shouldn't have made Mika an edgelord if they're trying to appeal to kids and manlets.
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>>13483756
Why remove turn A's "considered one of the best"?
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>>13483770
I would put all of those aside from Wing and G-Savior above Seed Destiny easily.
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>>13483772
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>>13483770
>ZZ
Major tonal issues, some unlikeable characters (and Bright and Yazan getting treated like shit), not too important to UC and (wave) rides off of Zeta's success while taking too long to close up the loose ends from Zeta. Weakest of original 3 but brought some great designs, fights and more.
>F91
Beautiful animation, fights are well-done, mecha designs are great and continues UC without ridiculous power level shit. Plot feels a little wonky due to pacing and characters are bland but nothing out of the ordinary. Better than CCA and everyone would agree if it weren't for Nu and Beyond the Time, you know it's true.
>Wing
Can't really defend this as much but I wouldn't compare it with Destiny. Does a lot of things I don't agree with but nothing horribly offensive.
>G-Saviour
You only have to sit through an hour or two of shitty animation. Still better than GSD.
>AGE
I'd say slightly less shit than Wing because the battles were interesting but the story was more of a mess. At some point I gave up and watched the pretty colors move while putting minimal investment in anything else. From a more objective standpoint it sits below Wing but still above GSD. Getting closer, however.
>Build Fighters Try
It's what everybody expected GBF S1 to be. It is lifeless and bland for the most part. However, it's also a show about Gunpla, not Gundams. It's a show about a game. Doesn't mean it gets a free pass but with half the team on G-Reco and combined with jack-all preparation and more likely than not some corporate influence, what do you expect? It's your average shounen. Biggest insult was the really, really bad fights. Luckily it ended quickly so everybody could move on. Probably around AGE level.
>G-Reco
Great designs, interesting addition to UC, likeable characters. Suffers from moderate Tomino (but some would say that adds to its charm) and really could have served to be a liiiiitle more deliberate with the overarching message.
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>>13483886
Gundam SEED Destiny
Takes one of the most lackluster, shit-looking entries to the entire franchise and adds 52 episodes on to it. Not surprisingly, everything gets worse. Re-used animation on already-awful early digital technology shows age worse than 0079. The characters are thoroughly unlikeable with teen drama added to attract more viewers. Plot elements and designs are "borrowed" from UC like never before or since. I hate the fact that I wasted my life watching it just so I could reply to arguments on 4chan.
Looks: Shit
Sounds: Decent
Characters: Shit
Mecha: Shit with few exceptions
Plot: Shit
Enjoyment: None

Overall rating: WHY
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>>13483886
I liked after war x, I feel like it could of been part of the Uc timeline.
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>>13483059
>nearly

PTAs are a joke nowadays. Politicians cut their funds down to the point where they can hold meetings maybe.
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>>13483886
I kinda like Bright in ZZ as it is him realising "these random newtypes I find seem to do best when they find their own way, so fuck it." The series had slowly lead him up to believing in newtypes more and he is one of the few characters to learn that you can't abuse the power but let the new evolution lead
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>>13483895
I understand but he's a captain of a ship, they're teenagers. Half the time it wasn't even Jewdough pulling shit, the other kids caused just as much trouble. It was enough that he let them on the ship when they're planning on stealing the Gundam and shit but once they're there he has to keep them from going crazy. Anyway, I'm more mad about the chickens than Bask Ohm slugging him is what I'm saying.
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>>13483895
>>13483907
I think the early Uc series was about bright. He is the only recurring character.
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>>13483907
He could have done with hitting them a few times but it wasn't completely out of character seeing how he changed over time. I really liked the scene where he is just talking with the kids (mainly that Judau sticks to stuff once he started) and floating around the hanger, it feels like he gets them

>>13483915
He's a driving force at least
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Heero does the same thing yet doesn't get any complains
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>>13482960
It has a fucking "Gundam" in the title, for fuck sake. Why is everyone so fucking stupid?
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>>13483756
>>13483746
>>13483539
Wow guys that's not even the latest version
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>>13483672
If you don't realize that 90% of all discussion about G Reco is just shitposting on all sides you're more retarded than most tripfags
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>>13483124
Nah BPO gets complaints all the time. The dumbest one was anime with satirical message about Japanese censorship getting complains that it's too obscene. In Japan everything is a taboo from offensive satire like South Park to underage drinking and smoking or calling sexual organ with its actual name.
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>>13483691
You can enjoy cocaine in moderation. Just like tobacco, alcohol, and all the other shit people say is bad for you.
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I enjoyed AGE.
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>>13483025
>not Oliver Twist
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>>13483701
>shows Mika's actions in a positive light
In the same way that people think that Char being a dick is cool. Can't stop people from missing the point.
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>>13483288
Kek, this guy for real?
IBO rating is lower than friggin Age.
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>>13483512
>More like i can't understand basic story structure of show, not tell because i am a filthy gaijins who loved to be spoonfed.
>Now watch my agony as I insults the director to make me feel good about my incompetency and defects.
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>>13482941

>being this new

You just think everything goes unregulated in Japan?
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>>13483627
Tomino quoted and praised Miyazaki works where Miyazaki put adult stuff in his works.
You are pathetic if you can't even tell why Tomino purposely misleading the audiences.
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>>13483288
Sorry but no TV anime ever will get almost entire Japan to watch it. You can't do that even with national emergency news. Nevertheless IBO had really bad start but it's rising.
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I mean hey, it's getting better than AGE.
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>>13482991

>"Iron Blooded Orphans" sounds like a children's show
>they censor penises
>during the flood, entire media strains of movies, video games, etc.. had to censor or change themselves in order not to offend anyone (some didn't bother getting released)
>constantly complaining about violence or how bullying presents itself in a show

>non-twisted logic
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>>13482994
Basically, the PTA saw Bo7 and co. comically beating/abusing each other as something that the kids would wind up imitating. Never mind that comedies involve slapstick in the first place. If they ever read the manga (which has blood), they'd have heart attacks.

>>13484149
Or Nobody's Boy, for that matter.

>>13483004
Get Hino as far away from the production as possible, and then we'll talk.
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>>13483886
>Great designs, interesting addition to UC, likeable characters. Suffers from moderate Tomino (but some would say that adds to its charm)

Only a troll or a brain-dead grecobaby would say that exacerbating Tomino's usual flaws to such a degree adds "charm" to a series.
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>>13483144
>Tekketsu/Iron Blooded = Not child friendly
>Nekketsu/Hot Blooded = Child friendly

Some standards you have.
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People are actually suggesting Wing is worse than AGE or Destiny? The fuck happened to /m/? AGE, the show that never had time to develop anything due to switching main characters every 15 episodes and turned into the biggest understanding fest in the franchise? Destiny? The show that used so much stock footage that suits transformed into other suits? Destiny? The show that assassinated every character from the original series? Destiny? The show that created rehashed suits like IJ, Strike Freedom and Legend so that they can use stock footage for the fights?
Anyone suggesting any show in the franchise below Destiny is trolling or has fucked up priorities.
Wing is one of the better entries in the series and at least has a cohesive plot unlike the objectively bad entries.
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>>13484393
I'm suggesting Kudelia is just as terrible a character as the female characters from AGE
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>>13484261
>More like i can't understand basic story structure of show, not tell because i am a filthy gaijins who loved to be spoonfed.
G-reco's problem was literally that it was "tell,not show".
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>>13484343
Found the retard
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>>13483091
>Media watchdogs exist in any country with parents that give a shit about the well being of their children.
Not in mine.
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>>13484393
>Wing is one of the better entries in the series and at least has a cohesive plot unlike the objectively bad entries.
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Can't you tripfags take your inside jokes elsewhere, you have the entire internet to build up your rep
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>>13484262
Except katanas. You can carry a loly but you can't usheathe your katana in public.
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>Controversy is good publicity
>sales figures of IBO jump
As expected of the mistress
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>>13484426
>Good villains
>Great MS designs
>Amazing music
>Decent main cast
>Understandable plot that is relevant even today
>Only really flaws are a few under developed characters and stock footage
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>>13484389
If you put "Ape" on the title of a movie, chances are its for kids.
If you put "Rape" though
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>>13484514
Teens study Crime and Punishment in school when they're 16 years old. I guess, it's the same age category as late night anime.
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>>13484420
>G-reco's problem was literally that it was "tell,not show".
>wah I don't understand anything why isn't the show explaining it to me waaah!!!
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Why do people act like G-Reco is the most nonsensical series and has these weird characters when Unicorn exists? Just finished it and all I could say at the end was "What"
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>>13483144
No, but it's timeslot does.
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Will Sunrise ever achieve the level of maximum overrustle they did with Cross Ange again?
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>>13484582
>maximum overrustle
Nips don't care about whito piggu, just themselves
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>>13483038
>spoiler
I saw it coming a mile away, and yet I still have the biggest grin on my face. I love you, VF-kun.
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>>13484582
Is Cross Ange any good? I saw some of the robot designs and they looked cool, how about the show?
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>>13484633
Turn your brain off->watch Fukuda throwing shit at the wall for 24 episodes
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>>13484633
Hilarious in parts.

Depends on your enjoyment of trash
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>>13484633

The show is absolutely fucking retarded, if you treat it as an absurdist comedy it's pretty good. If you're expecting any kind of serious story, forget about it.
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>>13484582
It's why I loved it.
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>>13484633
>Is Cross Ange any good?
FUCK NO.
> I saw some of the robot designs and they looked cool
I see you're a simpleton
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>>13484506
>Good villains
Stopped reading there
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>>13484651
>I see you're a simpleton
You're on the board for toy commercials, you have no right to a moral high ground.
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>>13484633
>Is Cross Ange any good?
Yes, but you have to slosh through like seven bad eps first.
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>>13484659
>but you have to slosh through like seven bad eps first.
Those episodes are better than the rest of the series.
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>>13484633
I liked it because it managed to one up itself every episode. Like it'd do something absolutely fucking ridiculous then you'd think "Well fuck, that's it huh?" then next week they'd just do something even more stupid.

Whether it was good or not is debatable, but I at least had fun watching it.
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>>13484633
Even as a trashy mecha anime its shit. And I hope you love shitty CG stock footage because you're going to get a lot of it.
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>>13484421
bait.
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>>13483833
You're retarded.

>>13483857
Because that isn't there for Zeta, Wing, SEED, 00, or Unicorn, which are far more popular and thus have more people thinking they're the best. It's just the creator's personal opinion, and it's completely useless information.
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>>13484261
>>More like i can't understand basic story structure of show
>g-rectum
>following a basic story structure
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>>13484690
It has a basic story structure, you just didn't follow it.
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>>13484661
>Those episodes are better than the rest of the series.
They really aren't, granted ep 5 wasn't bad.
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>>13484709
They really were unless you;re retarded enough to think the Dragon arc was worth watching.
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>>13484720
It was though. Anon, be honest, island prison episodes sucked ass through a straw.
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>>13484709
First half had a generally original WOMAN IN PRISON with mechs vibe which was the whole reason anyone gave the show the time of day and then it turned to a generic shitty mecha plot.

>>13484726
Not even the stupid fans of this shit defend the Dragon arc, you are a first.
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>>13484737
>First half had a generally original WOMAN IN PRISON
Which sucked
>then it turned to a generic shitty mecha plot.
Which was well done
>>13484737
>Not even the stupid fans of this shit defend the Dragon arc, you are a first.
You're new to /m/, I can tell.
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>>13484759
>Which sucked
Well sure it just sucked less than the rest of the show
>Which was well done
No aspect of this show is well-done
>You're new to /m/, I can tell.
Most of them hates it because of Fukuda, its only relevance is showing that GSD was his fault since both shows have the exact same problems in them.
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>>13484667
>>13484659
>>13484641
>it's fun cuz it's le trainwreck and ridiculous, guize!
Fuck off, /a/.
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>>13483076
They still have mostly Japanese names

Almost as if they mean to imply the Japanese race isn't in danger of dying out
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>>13484802
>Well sure it just sucked less than the rest of the show
Except it did not.
>No aspect of this show is well-done
World building, character development, action, music (the first OP and ED were horrid).
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>>13484825
Gotta keep up expectations, anon. Rather ironic in the show considering when Kudelia is teaching Mika and co. how to read and write, they are doing so in english characters.
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>>13484829
>Except it did not.
Except it did
>World building, character development, action, music
Well this is a lone of shit
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>>13484872
>Except it did
Nope
>Well this is a lone of shit
Also nope
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You guys stop bickering and have a Beargguy
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>the modern anime fan
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IBO confirmed for most dangerous.
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>>13483202
Around 30% of adults cannot digest milk because they de-evolved themselves thanks to overabundance of food that's easier to digest.

Back in the beginning of human society, when famine struck, you either digested milk (because grass was still there and so were the cows that ate it), or you died. If you couldn't digest milk and died, you did not have children, so only genes of those who could digest milk were passed on. But in today's societies children who don't like milk are not forced to drink it, and milk's nutrition is replaced by pills and cheetos, so what we evolved ourselves to do is now regressing. We are forfeiting the grand achievement that cost humanity billions of lives. If you don't drink milk you're literally subhuman.
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>>13485230
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>>13485230
Not even that anon, and I don't care about whatever you're arguing, but holy shit, this is the hottest pile of garbage I've ever read on this site. Firstly,

>de-evolved
is not a thing.

>beginning of human society
the introduction of lactose persistence is a small nucleotide polymorphism at C-13910 (that is, upstream 13910 bases of the lactase/LCT gene) that has been definitively linked to widespread human populations in Europe only within the last 10,000 years*. Human society had not only been quite complicated and formed by this point, but things like cities and states and written symbolic logic had all been introduced (remember, the neolithic revolution occurred 12,500 years ago).

In other words, you're entire premise is incorrect and backwards: babies are tolerant to mother's milk, but lose this tolerance because prior to the domestication of cows and goats, it would be extremely poor for the continuation of a species if an adult were to drink a mother's milk that would otherwise go to the child.

However, sometime after the introduction of agriculture and the domestication of a number of animals, we see an increase in the prevalence of double copies of lactase gene in adults. This indicates that being able to drink milk gave a distinct advantage to survival. However, this ability to digest milk did not appreciably spread outside of Northern Europe until the early 20th century, and even today, the majority of the world's population remain lactose intolerant.

It is NOT the case that people "de-evolve"; the nominal populace does not have double copies of the gene into adulthood, and without the same natural selection pressures the mean population will never.

*Source: >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15114531
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>>13485179
>3485179▶
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Reminds me of this scene

https://youtu.be/sHGlia8_qMg?t=4m45s
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>>13483016
Perfectly okay for them to do that because they are adults and the children are victims.
NOT okay for the children to judge the evil adults and kill them in a way that is remisicent of the unjust actions taken on them.
They are weaponizing the violence in a way that makes sense instead of just being the innocent victims of it who lament that violence and hope for a violence and hate free future, and become easily swayed sheep that can be manipulated.
Only way to shut those faggots up is to bring in the innocent eyed youth and have them fight on the side of the angels and eternally bitch about how fucked it all is.
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>>13485260
>Actually has knowledge of what he is discussing.
>Cites source
High quality /m/ilk post.
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>>13485260
Amazing
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>>13483082
>Besides, it has been proven that early exposure to sex fucks with a child's development where as violence, unless it's gore, has zero negative effect.
Behold, the kind of American dumbfuck that protests sex-ed classes.
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>>13485260
Are people with lactase genes newtypes?
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>>13485260
Oh, come on, I was just dramatising a bit.
Still, if you're lactose intolerant you're subhuman. Or maybe tose that keep lactase into adulthood are ubermensch? One of those.
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>>13485338
People protest sex-ed classes?
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>>13485338
Good chunk of the people who protest it are porn shillers as well.
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>>13485370
have you been to America?
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>>13485260
Actually, primary lactase deficiency (the one that 60% of adults suffer from) is genetic.
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>>13485319
They can't have the new generation thinking they can challenge the old order.
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>>13485369
>Seventy-five percent of all African American, Jewish, Mexican American, and Native American adults are lactose intolerant.

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>>13485370
Muh babies.
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>>13483091
>well being.

I don't know about you, but i'm a well-adjusted member of society with a job and a loving wife, and all i had for entertainment was ultra gore and ultra violence.
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>>13485370
You don't know much about the US, do you?

Sex education for the majority of the US is "abstinence-only".
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>>13483685
No, faggot. Check TE's twitter. It was with the bath of tweets about the compilation movies.

Good fucking god, the GR defense force takes offense at fucking everything
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>>13485425

Now you know why I hate them.
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>>13484016
If you honestly think that majority of them don't actually think that now then YOU'RE retarded.

Remember, it's like ponies on /co/. If you shitpost extreme opinions enough, extremists will flock in thinking they've found companions of like mind.
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>>13485432

There's a few shitposters who are actually shitposters. In fact I'm pretty sure at this point that it's one dedicated faggot who spreads himself out across this whole board pretending to be G-Reco fans and detractors, shitting /m/ up with his faggotry.

But the majority of these autismal G-Reco posts are actually from G-Reco fans. They're fucking terrible. I've never seen a fanbase on /m/ that gets this fucking mad over nothing and manages to miss the point so hard every single time.

They've actually lowered my opinion of the show.
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>>13485425
I don't even remember it being this bad until the show ended. That's when the already existing shitposting had almost tripled in intensity.
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>>13484545
That was the fucking problem in the first place, dumbass.

Both greco and tekketsu were just massive info and exposition dumps.

Hey did you know this technology you're familiar with that we've been working with our whole lives is very important to us spacefarers? - Guy to his superior, g-tek ep 1.

fucking hell man. Sometimes exposition is a good thing, but not when you dump the entire mechanics without leaving room for the viewer to fill the pieces in.

Look at how nen was introduced and explained in hxh. The main characters, since the first couple of episodes were always aware of certain people being freakishly strong and having a strange quality about them. And when they did finally learn what it was, they were only told the essentials and left the rest to be figured out by the viewer and themselves.

You need a mysterious aspect in your show to keep things interesting. And introduce the mechanics as the show goes on. Have the mechanics work since the first episode but keep the viewers ignorant from them. The first gundam did this, and zz expanded upon with newtypes. If you just dump everything in the first episode there's nothing to look forward to.

Both g-tekketsu and greco are weak shows.
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>>13485451
>hxh
I don't think that's the sort of thing most /m/ goers would watch, anon.
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>>13485451
I love HxH but nen's introduction was a straight exposition dump, even going as far as Wing pulling a lot of shit out of his ass before coming around and actually explaining what nen was and how it worked. HxH's strength is that once once the exposition is done even the craziest stunts pulled by characters can be explained as logical consequences of the nen essentials, but that doesn't change the fact that when Gon and company are learning about it the audience is treated to a lot of tell, not show.
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>>13485451
>Both greco and tekketsu were just massive info and exposition dumps.

The difference being that tekketsu is less boring.
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>>13483068
Guessing it's a context thing.

In IBO, it's seen as kind of fine since the guys in question were assholes. In 00, Setsuna is STILL fucked up and traumatized from having taken part in that.
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>nude loli are ok but no gunning downs prisoners

Kek japan.
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>>13485474
More like how ki works in DBZ correct?
That's much better.
People naturally figuring it out or being treated to simple explanations and demonstrations then seeing new stuff is how you pull them into the world.
Telling them how it is is much easier but also horribly inorganic. Being able to make them understand what is going on with a few words and showing them what's going on and the consequences and results?
That's how you build a world.
Even better, that's how you make the viewers talk about and become interested in the world.

And don't confuse that for keeping things open ended because they are lazy and so they can put a bunch of dumb shit in there and write themselves out of a corner.
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>>13485554
>implying it isn't superior
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>>13485554
The same group complained about a show (Pri Para , I think?) that had it's cast (made up of lolis) in swimsuits during the ED
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>>13485554
Don't worry, Olympics will clean up all the lolis.
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>>13485389
EARTH IS FOR HUMANS

IT IS HUMAN TO BE LACTOSE INTOLERANT

ERADICATE THE LACTOS!
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>>13485607
Fucking PLD plebs. Earth has always belonged to those who adapt, and those who can 1-up others. If you do not surrender the globe to us, lactase-types, as we deserve, we will eradicate all your non-milk food production, and your entire "civilisation" will drown in diarrheas.
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>>13485591

Yeah, PriPara ED 4. They said it was pedo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdWwsm2zF8k
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>>13485622
Too late for that,lacto scum.

We have begun eradicating your powersource, the cow!

Soon you will have nothing,but inferior goat milk. Out victory is assured,mutant scum!

Long live the Lactose Intolerant Federation!

Long live the LIF!
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>>13485624
That's what happens when you use the same character designs for both Sunday morning kid's shows and hardcore pornography.
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>>13485607
But the lactose intolerant are the minority on Earth.
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>>13485642
Then you leave us no choice, primitive. We will drop a giant glass of milk from orbit onto, say, Australia. Sieg Milkon!
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>>13485370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0jQz6jqQS0
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>>13485389
>tfw nonwhite
>can drink milk
This makes me feel special.
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>>13483024
^This.
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>>13485543
>tekketsu is less boring.
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>>13485451
>greco
>massive info and exposition dumps.
No you're just stupid
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>>13485260
so i drink about 10 pints of milk a day

will this give me superpowers?
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>>13483029
Oh man, did you see three boobs too?
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>>13484393
Wing literally put me to sleep. It is the only show I have ever fallen asleep during my first viewing of.
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>>13484506
>Good villains
>Understandable plot that is relevant even today
>Only really flaws are a few under developed characters and stock footage
Those are just wrong though.
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>>13484633
'Good' is a meaningless way to answer when it comes to whether you might like a work.

Do you like those B grade movies with slight hint of old sexploitation flicks? Then yes, you might find it good. If not, then no you won't find it good.

The OSTs are worth listening though.
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>>13484659
This
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>>13483521
they call him "the white devil"
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>>13484823
You must really enjoy MST3K.
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>>13485744
shoo shoo slimey limey
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>>13486002
That title would be more fitting for the milkposting chain.
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>>13485744
>It's fun putting condoms on produce
This guy seems okay.
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>checks the comments
>someone literally said SD Force was better than Turn A
>no irony

I've seen it all.
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>>13486846
It's like it /m/ anons were a bunch of chaos space marine warbands and our representative was the Sons of Malice.
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>>13483724
Almost as if inexperienced and ignorant forces going to war for flimsy reasons being bad was one of the themes behind the series, almost as if Tomino was making connections to present day politics
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>>13483740
Here's your reply
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>>13484641
>Not this version
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>>13483004
No, stop.
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