It's time for a Mechwarrior/Battletech thread /m/! Been

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>>13462547
Here's a superior machine.
Did you grab that version with all the mekpacks or whatever they're called?

>>13462632
Hunchy IIC is fun as shit. Used to tear it up in multiplayer with twin RAC20's and 2 medium pulses.

It's time for a Robotech thread /m/!

>>13462547
Is mechwarrior 2 win95 good version ?
Any fix for Mechwarrior 4 :mercanaries ?
Main menu is gliched !

>>13463053
If only that game had been made.

>>13462547
Where did you get MW4? I've been dying to play it again but it isn't on any online service.

>>13463159
Torrent sites should have the Mektek version

>>13463159
For some reason, Microsoft allowed it to become freeware, but I hear the installer may have some problems.

BTW, anybody else back the Harebrained Schemes BT game kickstarter?

>>13463162
Mektek? I thought that was the..no, I'm thinking of Megamech, what's Mektek?

>>13463167
I backed it. The creator of Battletech runs HBS and they have a pretty good track record with Shadowrun as I hear, so I've got a little faith in it.

I'll have to look into it. I remember looking a few months ago for MW4 and the expansions but couldn't find anything trustworthy on Google and didn't want to risk a torrent site at the time.

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>>13463053
What is it with Atlases being strangely stealthy?

>>13463257
Mektek did the MekPaks and Free Release for MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries that boosted the number of Mechs from the original 44 (including the IS/Clan packs) to 128, and introduced playable battle armor and infantry. They have since been working on Heavy Gear Assault as their first commercial product with Stompy Bot as the publisher.

>>13462926
If you have MW4:M installed with the shortcut on the desktop you might see if adding -gosnovideo to the target line after MW4Mercs.exe fixes up the menu.

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Make room for the chain smoking Lyran salary man

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>>13463266
Because its an assault mech that has a ECM and the pilots use it to their absolute advantage.

>>13465021
But does it have jump jets?
No really does it? I forget.

>>13465816
Not sure if there was a version or custom that had some.

>>13463257
http://www.moddb.com/games/mechwarrior-4-mercenaries/downloads/mxc-downloader
this is what I used to get the game, and I didn't have any problems with it

>>13465823
IIRC the "final boss" atlas of mechcommander 2 had jumpjets installed, which was absolutely insane and a steiner assault lance

>>13465899
*which was absolutely insane going up against him and a steiner assault lance

>>13465823
MW4 mekpak had a non canon variant, Warlord that had jumpjets.

MW4 mercs Solaris was easily one of the best tournament modes I've ever played, mostly cause the commentary made it actually sound like a real sport.

>>13463266
Steiner Recon

>>13466150
God bless Duncan Fisher.

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>>13465952
Something you don't want to see from this angle.

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>>13462632

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>>13468380

>>13467890
>>13466150
>duncan fisher in the new game
>duncan fisher commentating actual multiplayer games
This is going to be the best shit

>>13468617
Duncan Fisher reads from 50 Shades of Mech

https://soundcloud.com/cussingeorge/duncan-fisher-reads-from-50

>>13468705
Wow he's a great sport.

>>13465823
>>13465816

David Renard's Atlas custom had jump jets and dual gauss as its main arm

>>13468705
Oh wow, he's done quite a lot of BT stuff.

>>13463167
>>13463257
Yeah, I backed at the 275 dollar tier. I need a cool jacket and I originally wanted the muv-luv one, but it was only available at like 400 dollars, so I went with the BT one instead.

On that subject, I have to admit, Nov. 3, 2015 was a damn good day for /m/echa kickstarters. Both Muv-Luv and Battletech completely blew away all their stretch goals (Muv-Luv got over 1M with the top goal being 900k, Battletech 2.8M with the top goal at 2.5M) at pretty much the exact same time. I was quite impressed.

>>13468813
Hopefully it makes developers willing to look into mech games.

>>13465816
There's a variant of King Crab that has Jump Jets.

I once built a King Crab with Jump Jets, ECM and a Targeting Computer, shit would have been baller in an urban combat environment.

>>13462547
Glad that the game was funded.

>>13463266
Hiding in cities is surprisingly easy if you make it your business to absolutely ambush an opponent. Even a 3/5 can do it well enough. And the Atlas is no taller than a level 2 building, which is... 2 or 3 stories?

>>13469830
Depending on the source an Atlas is around 16 meters tall plus or minus a couple, and an elevation level in the tabletop is 6 meters high. There are a number of Mechs in lore taller than 12 meters but for game purposes Mechs are considered 2 levels tall when figuring cover by terrain, buildings, or water submersion.

into MWO recently out of boredom.

how i purchase Mech? all i play was trial mech & have no idea to get an actual mech yet.

I've been wanting to get into battletech for sometime, is the starter boxset the best place?

>>13470495
for doing it physically, yes

the overall best way to do it is through http://www.megamek.info/ because it's same game, but automated and free

try that out to see if you enjoy the gameplay

>>13470510

oh awesome, thanks!

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best Battlemech coming through.

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>>13470294
Need to get enough C-bills from playing to buy one you actually want to use. Assuming you don't want to waste real money on the game. And the fun part is that in order to unlock all the skill trees to boost your Mech's potential to the maximum, you need to buy and level up three variants of a Mech just to get one of them maxed out to elite level. Welcome to grinding hell and minimally viable gameplay.

>>13470294
Don't do it. By the time you've grinded enough to buy a mech you'll be sick of the game. Even after getting one the game really doesn't get any more fun, just a little less shitty.

>>13470523

noice

>>13465816
No. That's why you use a Victor. JUMPING AC-20 STRONK.

>>13470532
>Welcome to grinding hell
did play UCGO, War Thunder from the past where grinding hell keeps going on, i'm cool with it.

>>13470649
well, ok. things really confusing from the beginning & not to mention the controls.
gonna git gud soon & missile spam is pretty fun until ammo out.

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>>13463266

anyone have any idea about the premium time?
the functions of it?

>>13472692
It's pretty standard, you get a bit more cash from wins, I think that's about it.

>>13472509
If you wanna get a mech

Buy a Hunchback. Two variants are a must have: 4G and 4P. Third variant are up to you but the 4G and 4P are insanely fun and can punch way above their weight if kitted out properly.

use http://mwo.smurfy-net.de to special build it.

Hint: 4G should always stick with AC20s and the most fun builds for 4P always involve 9 small pulse lasers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDIm5Qpmx4 for 4P required viewing.

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>be 5
>go over to friend's house
>play game called mech warrior 2 for the first time that his dad just bought
>play through the clan wolf campaign
>play a level where I destroy a mech called the "rifleman"
>think it is the coolest shit ever because he has FOUR laser guns for arms
>as soon as I unlocked it I never tried any of the other mechs

And that is the story of my first mech crush.

>>13472979
Hah, I was just using a Rifleman in a game and cursing how shitty the base design is.

>>13472979
I had a custom Marauder IIc where I put the autocannon back on it, the Rifleman was and Kit Fox were my favorite to fight against because PPCs were a guarantee cockpit hit on Kit Foxes and I used to strip the arms off the Rifleman and let them wander around useless while I did my objectives.

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Shadowcat best girl.

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>>13463266
多分それは敵が1機だと思ったパイロットのミス、ATLASにリベンジを望むべきだろう

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>>13473183
Oh yes, of course.
What an interesting perspective you bring to the table, strange battletech-obsessed Jap.

Have another stealth Atlas.

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ゲームボードから考えて話した方が面白いんだが

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>>13473153
>Best girl.
>When this sexy motherfucker is around.

>>13473202

that poor marauder

>kurita

purge them from this world

>>13473250
get those filthy snakes out of here

>>13473250
Agreed.

>>13473262
Get that shit dezgra shit out of here.

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We macross now

>>13473294
You mad, quiaff

>>13473429
Aff, stravag.

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話だけならデカイ野生生物でも出てきそうだな

>>13472766
holy fuck anon, i start to like Hunchback 4P once it equipped nicely. 4G tried but kinda meh.

question, XL or standard engine? if any of my torso gone does that mean i'm a goner, as in XL engine?

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>>13473354
>now

>>13474621
With the clan mech laservomit meta right now I'm amazed a new player like you can have fun in a hunchie
For hunchies its probably best to go standard for maximum zombie. I don't remember if you can fit an XL on a 4G anyway, since ac20s are fuckhuge.

Reminder to go for one of the largest engines, upgrade to DHS yadda yadda. Might want to ask /gerg/ on /vg/ or check out metamechs

>>13474663
> clan mech laservomit meta
clan can go fuck themselves. Mercenaries for life.

i could go for XL engine in 4P, but not sure to get it or not.

>>13474707
Save your money, since engines are fucking expensive. Find a mech you like to play then kit it out. Also, as long as you don't elite a mech and fully kit every one of them out the mech feels like utter shit. Endo and DHS is pretty much essential on most mechs. Coupled with optimizing the engines and loadouts you're potentially looking at a couple million hidden costs on your first mechs

Also I have fun wrecking people in a JMS-DD
tri-uac5 for life

>>13474746
equipped with highest standard engine with DHS while self-learning in customize. it was really awesome in speed, compared to stock type.
it's max satisfaction when enemy's mech arms destroyed while moving & mowing in the greatest speed inside 4P. sold 4G as need cash & kinda meh when pilot it for the first time.

by 'go standard' you mean armor? can i go zombie overloaded in FF as it give more 12% protection than usual? or stick to standard & equip more ammo for AMS?

>>13474861
>literally wasting cBills
Never go FF, it doesnt increase armor, just squeezes out a litttle extra tonnage for more crit slots
AMS is a waste of time on the 4P
Go read a few guides and ask /gerg/ before you waste anymore cBills on buying and selling mechs, holy shit. Also the 4G is good, you just have to learn to use it.

>>13474662
That's when Macross became Battletech. Now Battletech has become Macross

Too bad that's not an official design though

>>13474887
the guide take some time to digest & it's not easy for beginners to master completely without any aid of self-learning as well.
get missile spammed every time when rolling out with 4P, no choice & purchase AMS to counter those annoying flying bees. will keep it for general purpose, since equip or not depends on my missile spammed frequency.
purchased 2 hunchback mech & sold 1 so far, currently stick to Hunchies 4P only, guess i'm good to save more cash while mastering it to the max.

btw Endo occupied few crit slot, does that meant i can't go total full zombie yet with 4P if i Use Endo, because filled crit slots leads to higher chances being crti?

or better to loose any item that take up crit slot to empty state, to prevent enemy gain higher crit chances, in general term?

>>13474621
Hunchbacks: Never use XL Engines because your torsos are insanely fuckhuge and easy to lose. Using Standard Engines are your best bet.

>>13475699
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=2&l=3d63297864e8dddcddafdb9bf4cbf8dd3a407c79

Use STD 275 engines for max possible speed for keks

>>13475657
Endo Steel internals and Ferro Fibrous armor shouldn't have any bearing on soaking up critical hits. They are basically just bulkier components that require less tonnage, but are not considered internal equipment.

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>>13475699

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>>13475736
WUBWUBWUBWUB

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>>13475851
What's going on with that Wraith's arm?

>>13476114
It's the artist's interpretation of IS Pulse lasers. You can spot two of them on the Falcon Hawk's arm.

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>>13476142
Huh, cool. Explains their increased weight pretty well too.
I thought it might have been a custom weapon from the SA BT AU.

>>13473045
>rifleman-3N
>shitty
git gud at riding the heat curve.

If Gray Norton can do it, so can you.

>>13476602
>riding the heat curve.
Oh yeah, the heat curve.
That's why the 3N sucks.
Not the whole 7.5 tons of armor thing. Or the 10 shots for each gun. Or the fact that falling on your ass is a complete death sentence.

I think I would actually rather have a Blackjack than a Rifleman.

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>>13473183

Macross II's Destroids were kinda fun. Hitoshi Fukuchi is one of my least favorite mecha designers, but he did okay on these.

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>>13477203

Photoshop is fun.

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>>13477223

Something from the GunHED video game... but it makes a nice Destroid... which makes it a super-nice Battlemech.

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>>13477223
Because I could.

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SD Atlas a cute

> use 4P for battle with EMS equipped
> SP lasers to the cockpit
> BOOM down the enemy goes
> FUCK YEAH, bail out. fucking missiles coming out of nowhere
> BRRRRTT EMS out of ammo
> shattered by Missiles, again.

.. at least i get a kills & few assist. & need a ton of EMS ammo again.

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>>13477274

>>13477274
I don't get it.

皿を用意する前に料理する材料を洗いながらかじって作る前に無くならないか?

>>13479333
I statted that shit out in Battletech.

Although I had to flub the missile tube number a bit.

about the clan things in MWO, is it really something special that caused clan mech laservomit meta situation?

i'm interested about getting 2 slot DHS instead of normal 3 slot DHS, & seems it was clan related stuff.
so any ideas & comments?

>>13477203
conversions:

Tomahawk II
For some reason, I get the idea of a Warhammer-style design where the team's boss suddenly said "Put a pair of turret-mounted Gauss Rifles on it" That put the mass up to Assault Levels, and they had to strip out some extra systems they had planned and downgrade the PPCs to Lights, but they got it to work.

Defender II:
I got sixty-five tons, with two Light Gauss Rifles, two Medium Lasers and an SRM-6 for backup, and a targeting computer. I might see if I can do PPCs and Thunderbolts later,

Phalanx II: Quad LRM-15s with Artemis, what else? Same size and profile as the Defender, but I had to make the iOS SRM-2s Streaks.

>>13479670
There isn't mixtech available so if you want Clan equipment like the smaller double heat sinks you would need to choose a Clan Mech. At the moment they are all OmniMechs which means fixed engines/armor/structure that can't be removed however.

>>13480525
I will never get tired of how hilariously stupid it is that omnis get less customization options.

>>13480676
It's to keep Clantech from being even more horrifically OP. As if it isn't already.

>>13479341
>皿を用意する前に料理する材料を洗いながらかじって作る前に無くならないか?

...--->

>"Do not go away before making the biting while washing the material to cook before you prepare a dish?"

...Right.

>>13480987
No you retard, that clearly translates as
>"Do not it disappear before it makes it biting while washing the material cooked before the plate is prepared?"

>>13480525
just checked out part by part, apparently clan tech seems not flexible in mods. tried few mods in clan trial mech & the option pretty limited.

>>13479748
>Tomahawk II
That already exists though.
It's just a Daishi with endo-composite internals

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>>13468385

I loved playing MechWarrior 3 on aol dial up back in the late 90s.

Just load up a heavy mech with a lot of medium multi missile launchers. Link all their fire. Shoot dozens and dozens of missiles at a target before you over heat.

>>13483420
>MMLs
Wait, those were in MW3?

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>>13470523
>>13472051

>>13479748
What about the Glaug?

>>13485008
Two PPCs, two mediums, an AC/5 with a ton of ammo, 15 heat sinks, 75 tons, 300 standard engine, and 11.5 tons of armor.

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>>13480676
Probably because the MechWarrior games use construction rules that treat the player like a Mech factory rather than customization and refit rules that take into account things like the actual cost and time and difficulty to alter stock Mechs. If it was the latter OmniMechs would be far more cost effective and easier to swap weapons and parts due to their modular nature, over ripping out hardwired and embedded equipment on a standard BattleMech.

They way it'll probably turn out in MWO is that when the Clan IIC Mechs are available that are supposed to be second line garrison units, is that they will have the advantages of Clan equipment along with beaing able to swap the internals/armor/engine, making them more flexible if not outright better than the front line Clan OmniMechs.

>>13485368
Man, the stock Hunchback IIC is gonna suck so bad.

anyone able to crank up max heat sink, either DHS or NHS for any mech, while balance in armor, weight & weapon so far?

currently i'm intrigued about heat sinks & rapid cool stuff, especially in energy weapons.

>>13486635
>Swayback IICs, Swayback IICs everywere

And even the stock one should end up coming out on top in terms of how much BRRT it can put downrage in comparison with the tabletop.

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>>13489202
The maximum heat sinks that you can carry are going to be based on the engine size as well as available tonnage and crit space. To maximize heat sinks you need to have an engine rating of at least 250 in order to get the 10 default heat sinks to all be in the engine and not distributed within the internal structure taking up space. Default heat sinks will be chassis mounted and taking up critical space, one for every 25 rating below 250.

Larger engines can hold more heat sinks without taking up critical space at a conversion of one heat sink per 25 engine rating. So a 275 rating can hold 11 heat sinks, 300 (12), 325 (13), 350 (14), 375 (15) and 400 engine can hold 16 heat sinks. Any number of heat sinks beyond those for the engine rating will be chassis mounted and taking up critical space.

Also if using double heat sinks, since they are 3 crits for the Inner Sphere variety they can't be placed in the feet or center torso, which limits them to the arms and side torsos. Clan double heat sinks are 2 crits and can potentially be center torso and feet mounted if those slots are not taken up by fixed equipment, armor or structure slots. Mechs without lower arm or hand actuators will have a bit more space available as well.

>>13486635
>2 CULTRA-20s
>bad
m8, the thing has firepower on par with a King Crab and it moves decently fast. It's meant to be a DIE GLORIOUSLY sort of mech, and it should do that.

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>>13489528
did try stuff in http://mwo.smurfy-net.de & seems like armor have to strip for max heat sink, for research purpose.

& the most disappointing was cooling efficiency difficult to reach 50% or above for hunchies. not sure for others yet.
guess it's really tied up with Thermodynamics 101 stuff:
THERE'S NO 100% EFFICIENCY RUN ENGINE. MOST OF THEM will have 40% OR 60% OR ETC BECAUSE BLA BLA BLA WTFBBQ SHITFUCKWUT.....

sometimes when you grow up & learn deeper stuff, you tend to sink deeper with feels & despair, as reality do crush your hopes & dreams. ;_;

>>13489899

The Hunchback IIC. For when you absolutely, positively MUST demand to be reborn shiny and chrome in Valhalla.

Accept no substitutes.

Not officially endorsed by Immortan Joe. Results may vary.

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Why does such a shit faction get such good-looking mechs?

>>13490092

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W23LKD9Z1hw

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> use XP to upgrade basic mech efficiency
> base tier efficiency completed upgrade
> Elite efficiency tier: unlock all basic mech efficiency for 3 variant of said chasis mech
> have to purchase more hunchies variant to get the tree skill up.

the fuck? UCGO & War Thunder was pretty ok for grinding hell but this was just... hell overloaded.

fine, i'll stick up to my Hunchies.

>>13492855
Because Piggy wants you to spend hundreds of dollars on their shitty cash grab. Easiest way to do that is to give people a choice: be shut out out of 50% of the game unless you A) pay. Or B) grind it out for months on end

>>13492855
Welcome to the grind.

Why even play MWO, though.
Honestly

>>13493858
> Why even play MWO, though.
because... it's a game?

>>13472597
lewd

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>>13490092
because they wouldve gotten there shit kicked in if they're mechs weren't hot shit

>>13495305
>>13468705

>>13472597
oh man, I remember screenshotting that

Tukayyid was a fucking amazing sourcebook. ComGuard a best, Clanners go home.

So is Solaris in 4merc pretty much free grinding? It doesn't look like missions are time based.

>>13498582
Yeah. You get bonus rewards per kill, and some of the AIs are a pain to deal with (I'm talking to you, fucker in a Vulture with two AIVs.) though.

>>13472813

Whelp...there goes that pair of pants.

>>13498582
Yep. Go in with some LBX-ACs and SRMs and get mad dosh from loadsa' kills.

just asking, what was the faction function again?
is it fun or just average things to be join?

>>13495328
I sure wish they were not portrayed as N, Korea with KGB.
Chinese - Russian - Scotland/Ireland combination is worth more.

>>13502105
m8, by Dark Age they're CHINKS IN SPACE, complete with people undergoing plastic surgery to look more Han Chinese.

>>13502190
>Dark Age
It doesn't matter. Even Jihad barely matters.

>>13502105
They were The Soviet Bloc ruled by Ming the Merciless.

& in the mean time, is it worth to purchase any consumable item, like cool shot, artillery or air strike?

>>13505012
No. You need the C-bills.

battlebump

>>13507410
but the amount of C-bills needed seems.. acceptable.

so it's better to get it through MC rather than C-bill, if given any option?

>>13514466
Don't even consider MC. Don't feed the pig

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何やら変な機体を見つけたんだが?

>>13514466
>buying MC
>ever

don't pay the Spheroid Jew.

>>13514611
Wut

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スタッフに言っておくなら、俺は模型戦士ガンプラブルダーズビギニングGで中ボス扱いでしたがBATTLETECHでも中ボス扱いで出てくるのでしょうか?機体は良い出来だが、日本の童話ヒーロー金太郎は斧を持っているのにこれには付いていません、せめて腕にブレードチョップができる装備ぐらいほしかった

>>13516923
he's our favorite japanese person that doesn't speak english and only posts in battletech threads for some reason??

>>13516923
>>13517565
Google translate says that he thinks the Kintaro should have an axe, or something like that.

>>13517665
Dracs hate axes though.

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彼らは楽しい事を全力でする事はあっても、困っている人を助ける事は絶対に無い

>>13517680
The dracs pretty much hate everything that isn't a light mech with an ERPPC and SHS.

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憎んでも改善はしないんだね、だからループするんだよ、ゲームで悩んでるんじゃなくてPCで悩んでいるからね、悪党対戦じゃねえよホント

>>13518222
Or 6/9 60 tonners with thin armor and ass guns.
Or the worst dual-gauss battlemechs in the game.
Or MRMs and SHS.
Or worse C3 masters AND HPPC carriers than the Warlord.

>>13518337
>Or the worst dual-gauss battlemechs in the game.
Which ones?

>>13519216
Gunslinger and Cerberus.

>>13519637
>cerberus
>bad
m8

M8

Cerberus is a fast twin-gauss with good close-in weapons. How the fuck is it bad?

>>13519659
>11 tons FF armor
>95 tonner
>19 points of armor on the legs and arms
>explosive CT
>ass guns
It's cheap, I will give it that much.

> patch update
> faction play
> quick play

... so, how good was faction play so far?
or it's just a quick play, but with faction?

Is there a better tutorial/teacher character out there other than Deadeye from MW2: Mercenaries? Because I don't think so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prjZ5UBMAzk

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まず、日本でATLASと言ったらこれなんだ、せっかくだから画像貼ったら?

>>13522406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wliQQ5fnvOY

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>>13485368

>>13462926

I forgot which version is the good Mechwarrior 2 for PC. This should help. http://www.mech2.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=281

any /m/ groupies around for mwo?

it might be awesome if we have multi-board vs in mwo.

>>13527029
Most of /gerg/ barely play the game anymore, so a bunch of /m/ trial mech shitters would probably stand a more than decent chance.

>>13527029
The video game general for MWO is barely alive and frequently is dead for +48 hours or hovering on Page 10.

It's a dead game with its only redeeming value being the IP.

>>13462547
i mainly hang out in /vg/gerg/ good too see yall representing the timeless classic that is battletech. MWO has its flaws but its the best thing weve gotten for a while, as long as they keep improving ill keep playing.

>>13463266
CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!

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>>13533353
ya called?

>>13522406
I remember the first time when I played the tutorial. The Panther at the last part headcapped him in within fractions of a second as combat began. I was so fucking confused.

battlebump

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>>13465816
now it does.

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/tg/ here, bumping.

WAYNE WACO DID NOTHING WRONG

> HBK 4P(C) as trial mech & can purchase through MC as well
> technically same as HBK-4P with less 1 energy weapon

... seriously, do they need to go that far?
& what makes mech a hero or legendary? or it's just a name slapped onto it?

>>13548320
The hardpoints are the same. Stop playing MWO.

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Hi 4chan people.
I Though I love to use the "advanced BattleMechs to be discover from the ruins" when it played in the 3025 year, When this "discover BattleMechs" advanced equipment with the fails, where I should I re-get it? And whether no choice but to go to the arena of Solaris 7?
At the same, I say if me found in where the personnel to be able to maintain the advanced equipment?

こんにちは4chan民。
俺は3025年で遊ぶ時に「遺跡から発掘された先進的なバトルメック」を使うのが好きなんだけど、この「発掘バトルメック」の先進的な装備が壊れてしまったらどうやって最入手すればいいんだい? ソラリス7の闘技場にでも行くしかないかな?
それと、先進的な装備を整備できる人材をどこで見つければいい?