Once upon a time in France, two jews argued about major and minor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtT3UyhibQ

>>9988891
what are these chills?

>>9988885
>nothing is higher than music
>let me explain it to you by writing about the problem in prose

>>9988925
Did prose ever make you cry?
Did prose ever give you the >>9988914

Gainsbourg was right because Gainsbourg is always right because Gainsbourg is a fucking legend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwBXCGAg_aA

>>9988885
This is all TV is these days: two jews arguing back and forth between two positions that are beneficial for jews. That's our fake left/right dichotomy in a nutshell.

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>>9988885
Of course you know all the great literature of the recent past, the highest examples of what we revere: Paradise Lost, The Inferno, Canterbury Tales, Blake, Proust, etc. They are merely the Netflix of their times, made by artists working within the only written medium they had. Even high poetry with its obscure or divine allusions is ultimately a communication created to entertain.

Music is altogether different. It can make you feel whether you understand the textual meaning or not. Of course there is such a thing as 'low' music as well. TayTay, Beyonce, Minaj & co are for imbeciles.

>>9988934
Yea King of the Castle made me cry pretty hard at the end. Also Homo Faber, even weeks afterwards in dreams or just randomly.

>>9989684
>nicki minaj
>bad
>pls. just wait until you read my forthcoming dissertation "pop music is good"

>>9989609
At least one person here is smart enough not to take these "arguments" seriously.

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>>9989808
Like I said: imbeciles.

>>9989684
Which musical pieces would you say compare to the works of Shakespeare or Tolstoy?

>>9989893
Not him but I've recently gotten very deep into classical music. Wagner, and the ring cycle especially, really took me to another level. John Field's nocturnes is also one I've been binging on lately, to name but a couple.

>>9989906
>"very deep into classical music"
>wagner
you are the problem

>>9989906
I agree with you, though. Music is an altogether different experience in that it is more universal and direct. Prose can rarely be as vividly appealing to our primordial emotions the was music can. After all, the ultimate art contest was a musical one between Pan and Apollo.

>>9989893
The works of Shakespeare and Tolstoy convey many moods, where musical pieces usually only contain one or two. The mediums cannot really be compared this way.

I would say Grieg would accompany Shakespeare very well, and has.

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>>9989924
Jew detected. These bitter little desert cretins, disgusting.

>>9989940
>musical pieces only contain one or two moods
>anon, the baroque era was four hundred years ago. pull yourself together.

>>9989940
>where musical pieces usually only contain one or two.
>the only composer he mentions is Grieg

When you don't know what you're talking about, just preface your post with sentences like "I'm somewhat clueless, but these are my2c", or "I have listened to some classical music, and as far as I can tell this is my current general impression". It's easy, you don't come off as a retard and no one gets angry at you. You also get valuable insights, and get to see if you're actual ideas can hold any scrutiny.

>>9989972
>>9989959
Tryhard anons who have contributed nothing to this thread but misunderstanding the capabilities and limitations of music and literature.

Go to bed, tomorrow is a school day.

>>9990034
your favorite piece of music is In The Hall of the Mountain King, isn't it?

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>>9989906
>Not him but I've recently gotten very deep into classical music. Wagner

>>9990044
Wrong, guess again. What's your favorite?

>>9990046
>keeps porn star gifs on computer
>pretends to be cultured
You only get to choose one.

>>9988891
white people should be genocided

>>9989947
Oh look, it's the anglo-protestant American stooge. Everyone here on /lit/ has already seen your fake "white" nationalism crash and burn so maybe you should take it to a different board?

>>9990068
Reminder to report all non-whites who stumble into this white culture board and then do 100 push-ups in preparation for their coming physical removal from our homelands.

>>9990078
I know you're a schizophrenic, but I'm just curious, when did white nationalism crash and burn?

>>9990097
"White" nationalism is a sociological VIRUS. It has no human belief system other than a single-minded command to SPREAD. Whites r grate and therefore they must replicate themselves as much as possible and consume as much as possible. No matter how much plastic gets shit into the ocean or wars started or oil belched into the atmosphere. The only goal is to spread and find another host.

>>9990151
Ethnic nationalism is as normal and natural as birds to flight. Humans are territorial animals that prefer to be around their own kind and will create war when third parties (like jews) move outsiders into their lands and give away their resources.

>>9990161
For every "normal" trait in animals you can name, I can name 10 other traits sported by the same animals that would be downright horrifying to us humans. The fact that barely sentient animals sre territorial tells me sbsolutely nothing sbout how to manage a nationa with tenths if not hudnreds of millions of citizens. You'll have to do better than that to justify your political system.

>>9990178
Social reality =/= political system and the onus is on you to prove why you stubbornly believe you can transcend nature.

>>9990161
Nations, like your fake "white" race, represent political groupings and are tools of elites to impose an elite supremacy onto a compliant population.

Meanwhile history has shown that humans naturally develop complex genetic imprints and ideologies from their interactions with neighbouring races and the challenges of geography. Races and cultures with the same outlook have always been more willing to bond with different races that developed the same outlook by living in a similar geographic or political context.

>>9990204
I'll repeat that you are clearly unstable, friend. Little or nothing in your post is true. People conquer other people or they get conquered. The latter is happening in white nations now because our leaders allowed jews into positions of power.

>>9990204
Like it was somewhat said by another anon in the previous thread, humans are just as likely to bond over shared ideas/religions as they are to bond over race. I identify as a catholic more with people from Mexico, Colombia and Spain than I do with many protestants of primarily British, Nordic or Germanic lineage who are generally uptight and deem you a savage if you do so much as laugh and get drunk at a dinner party.

>>9990188
My point is that we have control over our action, and unlike animals we can mediate to a certain extent our conduct.
I'm not being an absolutist either, I don't think that humans are blank slates, but to treat them as brute who rely solely on istincts and crude egoism would be a excessive reduction too.

>>9990227
Right, but that's what it will always break down to in conflicts over territory, resources, and mates. We've been lulled into pacifism due to an overabundance of resources but there are now growing numbers of foreign groups entering our nations to take those surplus resources.

>>9990241
Not him, but your view on immigration are somewhat skewed: if anything immigrants are a net positive for most societies. This is also why anti-immigration anons usually talk about culture, rather than economy, since that is at least a coherent problem which should be debated by all fronts.

>>9990241
Your totalitarian "white" nationalism is honestly more foreign to many european races than the viewpoints of many brown-skinned people immigrating to North America and Europe.

Why don't you just give up the ghost already and convert to salafism? Move to Saudi Arabia or Dubai, those drones seem to be more in sync with your ant-like thinking. You can get together with your fellow anti-degenerates and rant about Jewish conspiracies. As a bonus we'd trade you for a decent, liberal-minded secular sunni or sufi.

>>9990250
What? Have actually looked at the numbers that detail how enormously negative immigration has been on western economies? It's not even a question. They are net welfare recipients and the reason why wages haven't gone up since the 1970s. Look at the actual data. What you said is false.

>>9990269
Post said data, then.

>>9990275
He's probably going to say it's not his job to Google it for you.

Remember /lit/: a true humanist society must be defended against the constant aggression of the eternal protestant.

Always expose his atomistic, work-fetishizing cultural imperialism!

>>9990275
Not your personal researcher, bud, look it up yourself. Then smack yourself for ever thinking that importing millions upon millions of low IQ brown people whose own nations are in ruin would ever be a net benefit for western economies. Immigration policies have had a disastrous effect.

>>9990284
Well, since he is so sure I bet he has already selected and checked his sources, which could save other anons tenths of hours, and convert them to his stance. I'm just giving him an opportunity to be right and to change my mind.

>>9990296
I'm not that guy, I'm just interested in reading well sourced opinions. Why do you have to get so defensive? I've just asked you to tell us which documents are you quoting, so that me and other anons can have a clearer outlook on your political views. That would effectively promote your cause.

>>9990299
Looks like he passed up his chance though. Sad!

>>9990307
just read the culture of critique
by kevin mac donald

>>9990314
You mean the book that literally tries to apologize for nazi book burnings? Or am I confusing it with some other neonazi conspiracy theory?

>>9990320
*literally tries to write an apologia/justification for

>>9990320
I'm the guy who was asking for sources. >>9990314 is probably impersonating that other guy and bait him. Don't fall for it, maybe he is really writing a sourced post.

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>>9990307
I'm not getting defensive I'm just winding down, am on my phone, and don't really feel like looking that stuff up. But I think I might have a pic with all the stats but not sure how clear it'll come in.

>>9988934
Jesus, how pleb do you have to be not to get chills from prose? What are you reading, Stephen King? A Swedish bitch making weird throat noises isn't worth Proust's asparagus piss.

>>9988885
What the fuck hapenned in this thread?
Songs, i.e. voice music, is much stronger because it's such an old art form, our ancestors have been singing since the dawn of time. Prose is an extremely recent art form that concerns only a minority of ethnic groups that have a writing system, most wouldn't even have one if it wasn't for colonisation by writing people. Singing goes deep back, poetry is somewhere in between, prose is pretentious homo technologicus gibberish.

There isn't some single aesthetic state that various arts allow you to experience through different means. The power of songs is different from the power of literature. People don't necessarily read to feel moved, etc.

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>>9990064
>>pretends to be cultured
nigger, you were the one virtue signalling with wagner