Western societies jail fools, while older societies acknowledged

I hate all those episodes. Worst season of the Addams Family.

>>9984837
If this is the case, then how to we determine which are superior cultures or systems of knowledge? Foucault stated that Western cultures were no better than 'older', say, Eastern societies, but neither did he consider the latter superior.

>>9984909
Just go with our gut rele m8

>>9984909
We're working in a Nietzchean framework here. Values are a human invention rather than having any indepndant existence. The culture with more power ends up defining these values and placing itself ontop.

>>9984837
>Liberal democratic societies are not any less oppressive than totalitarian regimes

so disgusting that anyone could ever believe this. Just a sickening detachment from reality. French "philosophy" is a joke

>>9986277
This.

I generally agree with the top paragraph. Prisons are cruel and unusual punishments.

>>9986675
what do you propose we do with criminals? tell them not to be criminals and ask if they want to fuck your wife?

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>all these triggered /pol/ cucks

>>9984837
>how could I both defend my support for the USSR and my pozzed fagginess?
>I KNOW!
Mind blowing

>>9984837
>We "know" the world through the theories we believe in
Spengler opened this one up for me.

>>9984837
Foucault as Humpty Dumpty

Let us now turn to Foucault’s theory identifying truth and power. Here is an example of
the exciting ground lying within the Bailey:

>In societies like ours, the “political economy” of truth is characterised by five important traits. Truth is centred on the form of scientific discourse and the institutions which produce it; it is subject to constant economic and political incitement.

>The essential political problem for the intellectual is not to criticise the ideological contents supposedly linked to science, or to ensure that his own scientific practice is accompanied by a correct ideology, but that of ascertaining the possibility of constituting a new politics of truth. The problem is not changing people’s consciousnesses – or what’s in their heads.

>It’s not a matter of emancipating truth from every system of power (which would be a chimera, for truth is already power) but of detaching the power of truth from the forms of hegemony, social, economic and cultural, within which it operates at the present time – but the political, economic, institutional regime of the production of truth....


And here is Foucault’s Humpty Dumptying by which the Motte may be constructed from the material in the Bailey

>“Truth” is to be understood as a system of ordered procedures for the production, regulation, distribution, circulation and operation of statements

Well if
that
is how truth is to be understood, all those exciting statements about truth lose
their glamour — they are true but mundane. Just go through the passage, crossing out truth and substituting “a system of ordered procedures for the production... of statements” and you can see the boring Motte to which Foucault may retreat.

Suddenly the glamour of paradoxical profundities such as “[the] regime of truth... is not merely ideological... it was a condition of the ...development of capitalism” evaporates and we are left with rather mundane observations about social institutions without gaining any insight into why some social institutions might be more truth conducive than others.
The upshot of this Humpty-Dumptying is a puerile and pernicious scepticism about the possibility of knowledge.

>>9986277
Foucault never said that aids didn't exist.

>>9986433
Read Carl Schmitt, you leftist cuck.

>>9986681
Firing squads

>>9988154
He probably wouldn't have liked that modern France is full of Muslims to be honest. You do know that Foucault is compatible with right wing views?

>>9988154
>>9988185
Islam is pretty right wing so I'd imagine he would oppose it

>>9988202
True, but I think Foucault is very relevant to the right-wing. I'm a literal holocaust denying National Socialist and I get a lot out of reading him. The problem with these dumbass /pol/ white nationalists isn't their views themselves, it's just that they're close minded and they've come to their views through reading internet posts online rather than actual scholarship.

>>9986720
All of this is what his critics attribute to him as his 'epistemology', when really it's something he borrows directly from Nietzsche as a starting point for his work as a historian.

It's the starting point of his work, and admittedly sounds like a tired truism when you see it flaunted by every person that's read anything about him and their mother, but the real interesting stuff in his work comes in the alternative historical narratives he uncovers. The quality of his writing varies here too because he doesn't rely on empirical study as much as we would like him to in this day and age (episteme), but specifically focused books like Discipline and Punish or the history of sexuality are incredibly well written and interesting.

Another thing to consider is that late in his career he confessed that the point in his work was in order to lay a specific framework for understanding history inspired by Nietsche's Genealogy. I think some cool stuff can come out of that, with people investigating things in daily life that everyone takes for granted.


I might be guilty of the very fallacy you're talking about, but I find the real worth of his work in understanding him as bracketing the questions of epistemology and real truth value. For me, his work is best understood as showing how truth works as a signifier in social discourse, not in determining or even considering objective noumenal truth. This is a flaw in his work, but also what makes it worth reading imo.

>>9988273
How so?

>>9988256
>>9988273
>finally get rid of /pol/ retards
>they've already been replaced by stormfaggots and frogmen

>>9988273
>>9988335
Ludwig Klages, a Nietzsche pupil and Jew loather might also be worth in that regard. B^)

>>9986810
Ok, which book in particular addresses my false ideas?

Don't forget the part where Western societies make Michel Foucault a professor.

>>9984837
Why is he so happy looking?

>>9984837
I'm an autistical know-it-all, am I powerfull?

>>9988649
Because he is experiencing undeserved power for the first time

>>9988544
Carl Schmitt's critique of liberalism and the Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy.

>>9988544
Also there is a pretty ok thread about him right here >>>9978986

>>9988649
Lots and lots of Chomsky hash.

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>>9984837
Felt the need to

Isn't this the guy who started the entire 94 genders thing?

>>9988649
thinkin bout boipussi

>>9991645
Nah, but stupid college students twisted his ideas some and did do that.