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Should free speech be defended even for those who advocate it's abolition? for those who abuse it to spread hate and encourage violence against minorities?

what are some books about the philosophical principle of free speech?
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>defending niggers
>doesn't understand what white nationalists even stand for

You're retarded. More so that you want to argue about free speech
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>>9978626
>instant hostility
>jumping to unwarranted conclusions
>doesn't understand what white nationalists even stand for right back at ya

Quality discourse, anon.
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>>9978618
That's the hard questions aren't they OP? It's a very difficult situation. I heard somewhere "you have the right to say what you want, but you don't have the right to absolve yourself from the consequences" I think that's good. People SHOULD be able to say what they want, but the problem is that people are stupid. If someone gets up on stage and starts spewing hate speech, he's going to incite hate crimes, and that's a public danger. I think it's fair (and important) to regulate that kind of thing. It's no longer about personal opinion at that point. I'm not talking about asshole behavior though, I mean actual dangerous speeches- and that's good for the public, but it also leaves a lot of room for that kind of thing to be abused by people who want to police the way people think, and that's the problem.
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Read John Locke
>False and doubtful positions, relied upon as unquestionable maxims, keep those who build on them in the dark from truth. Such are usually the prejudices imbibed from education, party, reverence, fashion, interest, et cetera
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>>9978689
Kind of hard to decide what constitutes a public danger when your public is divided into hundreds of feuding factions and sub-factions. But yeah Burgerstand, diversity is strength. Sail that course right to the bottom of the ocean. China will make for an infinitely superior global hegemon.
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Charlottesville proves the American "Left" are fucking clowns. Something resembling a "Nazi" rally finally happened and they were all like TIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKITIKI. All concern for the Political context was superseded by a meaningless aesthetic formality. It wouldn't have even been on the news otherwise.
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>>9978689
what if i think you are saying something dangerous and hateful to me, and i get a bunch of my friends and we all vote to kill you

thats democratic, right?

well, im glad that was so simple
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>>9978689
No, hate speech is free speech whether you like it or not. Unless you are explicitly telling people to go out and hurt others or infringe on their rights, you are (and should be) protected in your speech. This goes both ways of course. Nazis, communists, feminists, fascists, etc are all entitled to speak their mind without legal repercussions.
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why are teens so mad that 4chan has a literature board, did their dads beat them up with books
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>>9978733
gotta admit made in china walmart tiki torches were kinda lazy and inauthentic
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>>9978618
I don't take seriously people who use the term "hate-speech" unironically.
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yes
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>>9978618
>the kkk has had to reach out to suburbanite hipsters for new factions
i think it's telling that they left jews join a couple years before these home depot card holders.
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>>9978766
they gave that guy a year in prison for dropped a bacon sandwich on the street?
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>>9978618
the speech that should be punished with violence is the suggestion that we should limit free speech

by suggesting removing free speech you are threatening to hold a gun to my head. i dont react to that by chooaing to ignore it.

if you suggest i chooae to ignore your threat, i suggest i will hold a gun to your head but that you cannot react to defend yourself until i pull the trigger, because until the trigger pull i have not committed violence
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>>9978783
bacon's valuable, son
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>>9978783
welcome to the UK
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why are teens so mad that 4chan has a literature board, did their dads beat them up with books
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Don't forget that whole march was organized by a guy who 18 months ago was a liberal. It was all a setup to discredit Trump, and the alt-right. And it worked, but Dems still gonna lose in 2020 because they still don't get it. Tranny rights and tax cuts for Goldman Sachs are not a platform that is gonna get any votes.
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>>9978669
this desu
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>>9978750
i lobbed a dictionary at a guy who told me sticks and stones could break his bones but words would never hurt him. only bruised him, so neither here nor there on verifying that adage.
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>>9978786
>hoppean
>implying your sort isn't autistic enough to hold a gun to head of people you don't like anyway
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>>9978800
>it's all a false flag!
>they were merely pretending to be expressing the political views we silly /pol/sters unironically believe in! don't worry about it it was all a hoax! we wouldn't actually take to the streets and say the dumb shit we say 24/7 on chinese cartoon boards!

for all the irony /pol/ deals in they can't quite process it themselves
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>>9978814
it wasn't a "false flag", it was a way to pin the neonazi tag on trump, and it worked since i'm sure you unironically believe trump is both a nazi and a russian agent, kys
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>>9978810
communists explicitly threaten to kill people who dont support revolution in theor core doctrine

why should we give them a chance to try it?
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>>9978800
This. The libs ran a classic 'false flag' op against the right by voicing some of the right's opinions.
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>le meme magic, praise kek threads everywhere
>the autists latching onto this come out irl
>NO NO THATS NOT US YOU FUCKING REDDITOR NEWFAG
what did /pol/ mean by this
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reminder to report off-topic threads
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>>9978835
yes, anyone who votes for the republican party is clearly a neonazi fascist who pepeposts on 4chan! the only non-fascist option going forward is to vote for the democratic party, anything else is a hate crime.
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>>9978838
You're the only one injecting politics into the argument you stupid reddit fuck
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>>9978821
yes I'm sure every single one of them were paid to go out there to discredit trump, they weren't actually expressing their beliefs as emboldened by trump and I'm sure none of those groups (even if they hypothetically weren't there to be paid by soros to discredit trump, which they definitely were) felt emboldened by him or even scrambled to their websites to say that trump approved of what they did after he failed to denounce them
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>>9978842
So you do support the left destroying history and southern heritage?
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Urgh, discussion is instantly poisoned by /pol/ scum.
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>>9978838
yes, clearly the unite the right rally represents the 150 million or so members of the republican party and not couple dozen nazis from the deep south, they're totally the same, anyone who votes republic is literally worse than hitler and basically /pol/
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>>9978851
you mean all the monuments that were erected in the 60s and 70s as a symbolic pushback to blacks wanting to be able to drink from the same water fountain as white people?
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>>9978851
>southern heritage

Wow, spooky.
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>>9978859
Yeah
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>>9978786
This. It begins with controlling what is said, then with controlling what is thought -- or taught -- then controlling what is done. This is the logical sequence of things, the subterfuge of speech politics known to all who can read the writing on the wall.
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>>9978618
>Should free speech be defended even for those who advocate it's abolition?
You mean Muslims and socialists?
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>>9978850
man, you are fucking stupid, the people at the rally unironically believed their own bullshit, but the trick was getting fools like you to think that represents trump's base, man manipulating plebs is too fucking easy, see you at the next cop bashing rally to remove ulysses s. grant statues, right before the next election that you lose again, idiot
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>>9978766
Meanwhile in Rotterham
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>>9978866
You're too late. A bunch of other geniuses already used that brilliant >lolumeentheleft "joke".
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