Is there any point in reading ancient philosophers today, given

>>9976931
Yes because the concepts and themes they brought to the table are still relevant and will always be, at least until we all get nuked or something like that, which will probably happen pretty soon

>>9976945
You can get that out of a history book.

>>9976931
They weren't wrong about everything, so they will always be relevant

they were wrong about everything

but they were right about every THING

>try reading plato
>dude the body is controlled by the soul
>implying souls exist
>what is a brain? idunnolol
>by zeus!
>frog.png

Well, people still read the Bible nowadays so yes.

>>9976931
>>9976950
You're not getting the process that led to the conclusions. Also you're supposed to be actively engaged with the dialogues and interacting with it so you can have your own conclusions. You're led to the questions that arise in the dialogues and the answers have to be your own. You won't be able to search for something if you think you know it. Socrates helps to move you from someone that doesn't know but thinks they know to someone that knows that he doesn't know.

Remember that if Plato doesn't give an answer it doesn't mean he didn't have one. He just doesn't want to hand it on a plate.

Also, the questions that arise from the ancients have been grappled with for centuries. Just because someone came after Plato, like Aristotle, doesn't mean they were better.

>>9976931
Plato and Aristotle is literally all you need.

Why read anything today, given it'll probably be wrong in the future?

>Knowing they were wrong about everything
>Not reading their arguments
>When a shitton of the modern philosophical tradition is based on their arguments.

>>9977039
Some of the pre-socratics are cool, I found the atomists intriguing, but so many of them just came up with the most DUDE WEED theories about the universe which were completely fucking wrong.

>>9976931
Fuck off, Orpheus.

>>9977039
>Not Parmenides
How does it feel BEING a pleb?

>>9976931
>implying contemporary philosophers aren't wrong about virtually everything

>>9976931
Yes.
Read to shape your intellect into something superior (treat all of it as thought exercises if you like). Also, reading it informs you of how human thought has progressed, human though that has informed our cultures and decisions, our perceptions and language. It's like breaking down your high-level assumptions into the baser concepts, it gives depth and context.

Cynicism is incredibly relevant today.

>>9977412
>Implying Plato and Aristotle didn't integrate everything of value from Parmenides into their own writings
Go chase turtles or something.

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>>9976931

Are ISIS followers of Plato?

>>9976931

What exactly were they wrong about?

Plato's dialogues aren't primarily about the subjects they discuss - the way they are discussed is what really matters. Taken altogether they form, among other things, a cohesive epistemological methodology.

Clearly you only have elementary reading skills, and everything above surface level is entirely lost on you.

>>9979847
That's hilarious, anon. Top Kek.

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>>9976931
Philosophical ideas are timeless, it's just the language that carries them that sometimes becomes outdated or less effective.

Also, this >>9977042

apparantly some anon said only things relevant are in public domain, so yeh there is a point to to reading those dead pedos.

>>9976931

If you feel wrong about feminism, gender ideologies and minorities, then yeah, they are very important.

>Inb4 pol

>>9976931
>he assumes the greeks were 'wrong' just because their work is older

>he thinks the moderns are right just because they are modern thinkers


Have fun following the cucked thinking and relativism of the moderns anon, you'll fit right in with 90% of the academic community while you're secretly laughed at by the ones who read the greeks properly and understand that they were more accurate than the moderns.