All memes aside, will reading Hegel faciliate my understanding

skip the stirner and just read hegel.

>>9972510
skip the hegel and just read stirner

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Nah, you should be able to understand Stirner without Hegel, but it helps to skip the Marx before you read the Bauer and then read Stirner.

>>9972625
stirner the hegel and just skip read

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>>9972515
correct
>>9972625
incorrect
OP, after you read pic related you won't be as interested in plebs like Stirner anymore

>>9973250
Can you legitimately convince me that this isn't just extremely tryhard gibberish? Can you give reasons as to why you believe Schopenhauer's opinion of it was mistaken?

I have a basic knowledge on philoophy, should I try Hegel even if I can't absorb most of the book? The way people talk about the phenomenology makes me want to read and be seduced by it even if I can't understand fully

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XlwKK4jUkw

this song reminds me of stirner

>>9973250
wrong

>>9973312
hegel condenses many useful philosophical notions into difficult-to-decipher sentences. as for schopenpleb's "opinion" of it, it is very interesting as it laid the groundwork for future analytic dismissals of entire fields based on them being "preposterous" or "weird"

>>9973448
>hegel condenses many useful philosophical notions into difficult-to-decipher sentences

Now, see I wouldn't even deny this. Hegal does have many genuinely novel and significant insights and I wouldn't deny him that, but I have barely seen anything close to a properly systematic justification of his approach. Often he will throw out seemingly bizarre statements without justification, with nothing else but the bare implication that once you understand his work as a whole and how it contrasts with the kinds of thinking he deems inadequate, you'll comprehend why he has delineated his thought as such. His frequent unwillingness to declare why he is discussing a given line of thought beforehand makes reading so much of his works a chore.

>>9973421
Just watch Gregory Sadler's half hour Hegel videos on YouTube. He talks about every paragraph in the Phenomenology.

>>9973584
Will do

>>9973558
>nobody giving systematic justification

https://empyreantrail.wordpress.com/method-and-system/

Nobody you say?

Not counting:

R.D. Winfield—Hegel and the Future of Systematic Philosophy

Alan White—Absolute Knowledge: Hegel and the Problem of Metaphysics

Ardis B. Collins—Hegel's Phenomenology: The Dialectical Justification of Philosophy's First Principles

Really? Lazy.

>>9972785
Hegel the skip and Stirner the JUST

I ordered "The Unique and It's Property" yesterday, which should be here sometime next week. I was tempted to order "Lectures on the Philosophy of History" by Hegel as well, but I was put off by his needlessly obscure density of style. Makes Aristotle look like a poet.

It's not that Hegel's metaphysics are disheartening me – I consider myself fairly well versed in Neo-Platonism, from it's Pagans expression in Late Antiquity to the Christian revival of the Renaissance. Hegel did hold Eriugena in great esteem, so he's obviously quite symphatetic to the Neoplatonic tradition. I've also read snippets from "Hegel and the Hermetic Tradition" which has further solidified my initial suspicion of his mystical bent.

With that said, what would you consider the primary value of Hegel? He is obviously fairly well read, but does he manage to do anything profound with this knowledge?

>>9972510
Stirner does not have a working philosophy. faggot thinks we should collectively run the bakery, his world view is very small

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>>9972510
>stirner's """philosophy"""

DUDE DO WHATEVER U WANT LMAO
EVERYTHING IS A SPOOK

>>9972510
There is no use understanding what a stupid commie has to say.

>>9972510
yes
reading any philosophy will help with stirner but you're still capable of overall points with nothing at all. So yes and no.

>>9975419
Absolute knowing and absolute knowledge of the Absolute.

If knowing anything absolutely does not draw you in away from dogmatism and postmodern skeptical nihilism, idk what could.

>>9975469
Careful, as we speak a horde of pseuds and raging autists are now furiously typing up paragraphs to defend to their last Cheetos soaked breath the delusions of their adored Mr Ghostbuster.
Prepare yourself.

>>9975469
>>9976928
>when don't read or think about anything and base your conception of everything on fucking imageboard memes and contrarianism
Stirner rejects and ridicules philosophy and formal ideology. You're just meant to take and interpret whatever you want from his work, so I'd agree there is no "stirner's philosophy". One short book, half-filled with satire and possible intentional disingeniousness to throw people off, doesn't transmit a man's philosophy and the book on its own has no comprehensive philosophy.