Where do I start with German fascist and conservative intellectuals?

you start by taking a shit first and then getting a spoon and start eating it.

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>>9950232
You start and finish with BASED Hitler

We shall make him proud again

>>9950232
Italian nationalism and fascism really has better unification and distribution arguments. You can easily transplant those ideas, like the Germans did.

>>9950385
fpbp

I'm sticking with Schmitt and Junger. There is little else worthwhile as far as I know. Oh and those two triggered out tards above me need to chill out. Also the shitlerfag needs to back out too.

>>9950406
So what do you say to read?

>>9950232
Nazism is shit-teir fascism, read Evola

>>9951415
Evola liked Nazism better than regular fascism, retard.

>>9950483
Nolte

>>9950483
Junger is amazing. Storm of steel is a necessary introduction to his work, but On Pain, the Forest Passage, and Eumeswil are excellent. Unfortunately I don't read German, so I'm stuck with what I can find in English. Junger wrote another book, "Approaches," about his experiences in later life dropping acid with Albert Hoffman, and his experimentation with other substances, which I would love to read, but have yet to see a translation

>>9951498
Also, Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera's collected writings are well worth your time. Pair them with Mein Kampf if you ever get there, and are looking for discretely political texts, rather than more esoteric fashy stuff like Junger

>>9951435
that doesn't mean his works are nazism, chud

>>9951714
That it doesn't. But with that in mind the sentence "Nazism is shit-teir fascism, read Evola" makes no sense and is a glaring red flag the poster has not read Evola as according to Evola Nazism is top-tier fascism.

>>9950232
>Le Intellectual Nazi meme
Here we go again

>>9951505
I don't read beaners or sandniggers

>>9952325
I can't speak of Carl Schitt but Ernst Junger was never a Nazi. He declined to cooperate with them, though he did not resist them either.
Heidegger from all I've read was an actual Nazi, and somehow we are free to discuss them.
>>9951505
Mein Kampf is not worth my time at all. When I was a teenager I gave it a shot. I might look at de Rivera.

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Junger wasn't a big Nazi, despite having a figurehead position in National Socialism. He got to live in Paris during the war and acted as a censor but didn't do his job properly (he didn't report people) because he developed an increasing dislike for Nazism as early as 1939 (see On the Marble Cliffs). His WWII journals mention a genocide going down in Ukraine.

He had influence in the conservative revolutionary circles of Weimar Germany but his world view moves toward an anarcho-botannist aristocratic detachment from politics (Eumeswil being the culmination of this detachment).

Junger is a truly great writer but if you're reading him for Nazism, fascism, /pol/ memes you'll be pretty disappointed.

Carl Schmitt is arguably more tied to Nazism but we need to remember his Weimar era writings were both anti-liberal and anti-Nazi. Maybe his joining the Nazi party was opportunism, maybe he just wanted to keep teaching and not have problems. But he was a rigorous thinker useful today to both the left and the right. You could compare Schmitt with Gramsci, who, interestingly, was Pinochet's favorite writer (pic related).

>>9950232
Concept of the Political is probably the best place to start but I don't think it matters too much. He's a dense thinker but straight-forward. Balakrishnan's The Enemy is a nice overview of almost all of his work. I'd recommend it because it traces his works in the context of his life.

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>>9952980
And I forgot to mention Junger got kicked out of the Nazi party and almost received the death penalty for his association with the people involved in the attempted assassination of Hitler.

Junger wasn't involved and had an alibi. IIRC he felt that an assassination at that point was too late to make a difference. But he probably just wanted to live innawoods at that point.

His novels are great but I think he's best as a diary writer. Look for his WWII diaries and his post-WWII diaries.

Ernst Jünger thought Hitler was a pretentious asshole, the Nazi party a bunch of assassins and fascism a dead ideology who blinds people and turns them into mindless slaves, but you've got to read his books from start to finish to understand what he understood through the years he lived.

>>9952980
This.

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>>9952980
>You could compare Schmitt with Gramsci, who, interestingly, was Pinochet's favorite writer
Well, that's a lie, you can find why the smirk on his face on pic related

>>9953147
This is a good image. Any chance the book was translated?

>>9953147
If you're saying Pinochet liked to read Gramsci ironically, it still doesn't take away from my point that Pinochet liked to read Gramsci and that there are certain political thinkers who have relevance to both sides of the political spectrum.

>>9951306
"mussolini". most of the stuff published under his name is ghostwritten by other people like gentile and d'annunzio. and marinetti might also appeal to your sensibilities.
you should look at garibaldi et al for nationalism, because the fascists kind of rise on the back of that, since you need a nation before you have national socialism.

>>9953990
Can I get a quick rundown on Gentile? I listened to a lecture about him and I didn't get it. Actualizing idealism? I failed to see what he provided that Hegel did not.

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Take a look at the Conservative Revolutionary writers that included Junger, they defied neat categorisation even if they could be described as part of the radical right alongside Fascism.

Disregard Germany and start with Giovanni Gentile

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>>9950232
Spengler, Junger, Rosenberg, and Jung. In that order. Not all of them approved of Nazism mind you but they were the intellectuals of Germany at the time. If you want to start with fascism, read De maistre and Georges Sorel first.

>>9953980
Just read the book man, I'm not gonna chew it to you. Just a spoiler: maybe Pinochet didn't read much at all
>>9953599
No translation afaik

>>9954043
> You're wrong, just read this untranslated text, I won't tell you what it's about. Spoiler: contentious argument

post disregarded

gramsci is still read by many on the right, regardless of what sudaca LIFE magazine has to say

>>9952400
Primo de Rivera is an excellent read. He writes more regarding the basic underpinnings of fascism and dictatorships in general, the failure of democracy, things like that. I mentioned Mein Kampf as well because it's a necessary read if you want to understand the national socialist mindset. It's not something you read for pleasure, or for high minded intellectual political theory, it's a ground level political treatise explaining the national socialist ideology.

>>9954567
Primo de Rivera seems awesome, I'll have to read his work.