/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

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So, when I was a teen I read:
>2001: A Space Odyssey
>2010: Odyssey Two
>Rendezvous with Rama
and
>Childhood's End
I'm planning on rereading these sometime soon, and my question is: what else by Arthur C. Clarke should I read afterwards?

>>9895798
Fountains of Paradise

>>9895714
>picks a book title out of a hat without looking into what it is
>blames author for not putting in any effort

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SHITE

>>9895885
With a cover like that.

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This book was super comfy.
>tfw no dragon to become best friends with

>>9895917
Any books about having sex with dragons?

>>9895784
>God herself
>herself
Get out

>>9895885
And you guys shit on night angel trilogy.

>>9896192
An anon in outer lit was promising that he was working on one years ago. Haven't seen talk about it in months.

>>9896440
why would you care about this.

>>9896445
And?

a spot on the back of my head has been hurting some days and doesn't other days for the last 2'ish weeks. today has been especially bad and I started crying a few times with absolutely no control or emotional catalyst, like tears were being pushed out of me.
Am I going to die?

>>9895258

The second Legends of the Drenai has a were-panther as the main character's partner IIRC.

>>9896453
Because you're from a place that likes to state that "it's the current year".

>>9896467
>/sffg/
>medical advice
Go see a doctor senpai.

>>9896467
Probably got got infected by VALIS. Call your nearest religious centre immediately!

>>9896473
No I'm from a place that doesn't give a single shit.

>>9896467
Talk to a doctor, you may have something putting pressure on your brain. That's very serious.

When I say "talk to a doctor" I mean, IMMEDIATELY, by the way. Like, go to the emergency room right now.

>>9896476
I'd feel like a retard if it's just nothing

>>9896510
If it's not nothing you'll soon be a literal retard. If not dead.

>>9896510
Well, you'll be a healthy retard.

>>9896547
>even gods can be slain
No shit. Have you read your greek?

>>9896547
i'm the person wearing a kimono in the middle of the tundra

>>9896579
They haven't even read the Bible, God getting slain is kinda a big part.

>>9896605
Yeah, but it doesn't count of God can rez himself.
I call h4x.

>>9896539
>>9896526
>>9896507
I called a doctor and he said it isn't physiological and I'm just depressed and wants me to go down to the mental ward because he thinks I'll kill myself. baka guys.

>>9896659
Just go to A&E
It's what they're trained for you numpty

>>9896659
don't kill yourself anon

think of all the great books you'll be robbing yourself of reading

>>9896547
>Let me preface this review: I wanted to love this book. I wanted to see well developed Asian lesbians that has been my dream for so long. To see queer representation that looks like me. I was so excited to read the first four chapters released early by Tor.

>And I cannot express how absolutely disappointed and disgusted I am at this singular example of everything it is to experience racism as a Japanese woman.

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>>9896659

Geographically huge non-interstellar settings?

>>9895798
The city and the stars. It's the only not shitty novel I've read him.

>>9896815
What kinda person do you have to be too need such super specific pandering?

>>9896815
Suddenly I want to read this.

>>9896880
I think the angle is that it's racist against Japanese.

>>9896547
>Arse-naut

>>9896901
So? The Japanese are racist against everybody else. Fair's fair.

>>9896901
Yeah. And my point is, why would you need a good representation of japanese and lesbian simultaneously? They're not inherently linked in any way

>>9896941
They are if you're a Japanese lesbian. It's a hard concept to understand if you're a straight white male and the majority of characters you've ever read have been the same.

>>9896961
If your needs are so specific, why not write your own novel?

>>9896966
Because if you haven't noticed, these kinds of people cannot create, only destroy.

>>9896973
I really enjoyed Bakker's work for the degenerate piece it was and I can't talk to anyone about it because it's so degenerate.

>>9897075
Is Bakker that degenerate? I read a little of his first book. There's a lot of rapey background noise, but most of the onscreen action seemed pretty standard fantasy to me.

>>9896941
nigga look at the sad puppies and shit (dudes melting down cause sf/f has become 80% male&white instead of like 95%) and you'll understand that representation in media is important to people

>>9896473
No you're just an insecure faggot

>>9895192
>Riyra or however it's spelled was awesome.
couldn't get throught the first book, literal trash-tier writing and I enjoyed a couple of John Ringo books

>>9897098
Keeps getting more convoluted.

It's a keystone of the /sffg/ seal of degenerate gay rape incest cucking approval approved (remind me if I forgot any)

Taking biblical/magic/technobabble themes and philosophical elements on human activity were the main appeals from a basic fantasy standpoint. I don't really have the vocabulary to describe the writing style. Lets say your average fantasy is a "good dream, a vivid story, fantastical but certain comfortable elements and ponderings.

Bakker's Prince of Nothing and all the accompanying books are like that except with the subtle feeling of wrongness like something horrible is going to happen at any time. And then it does.

>>9897098
I gets rapier. Bakker EARNED his certified GRI badge.
The most recent book is basically about an army of gay rapists lead by a gay rapist fucking and eating another army of gay rapists on the way to fuck and rape a third army of gay rapists lead by gay rapist aliens. Also there's incest, cucking, and mindrape.

>>9897260
No one remains uncucked or unraped.

>>9897281
>cultural marxist
lmao that anyone can type that shit with a straight face

>>9897285
ditto

>>9897288
There's no insecurity that the warm blanket of a mind-virus like religion can't cure.

>>9897281
>trying to fight the cultural marxist hegemony that has taken over the awards
keep telling yourself that

>I don't see what's wrong about American literature, film and so on being predominantly white when that reflects the population
yeah, but that's not what happened. it's one thing to say "well, yeah, there's more of us so there will be more of us in writing and film etc" and it's another thing to do what the puppies did which is basically bitching because they're predominant but not as predominant as before. and when the leader of these ubermensch calls jemisin an "ignorant half-savage" it becomes pretty clear what's going on.

>>9897318
Regressive is a more popular term.

>>9897354
It's a good term for "back in the good old days" type folks.

>>9897281
Actually the sad puppies are about not being able to judge books by their covers.

>A few decades ago, if you saw a lovely spaceship on a book cover, with a gorgeous planet in the background, you could be pretty sure you were going to get a rousing space adventure featuring starships and distant, amazing worlds. If you saw a barbarian swinging an axe? You were going to get a rousing fantasy epic with broad-chested heroes who slay monsters, and run off with beautiful women. Battle-armored interstellar jump troops shooting up alien invaders? Yup. A gritty military SF war story, where the humans defeat the odds and save the Earth. And so on, and so forth.

>These days, you can’t be sure.

>The book has a spaceship on the cover, but is it really going to be a story about space exploration and pioneering derring-do? Or is the story merely about racial prejudice and exploitation, with interplanetary or interstellar trappings?

>There’s a sword-swinger on the cover, but is it really about knights battling dragons? Or are the dragons suddenly the good guys, and the sword-swingers are the oppressive colonizers of Dragon Land?

>A planet, framed by a galactic backdrop. Could it be an actual bona fide space opera? Heroes and princesses and laser blasters? No, wait. It’s about sexism and the oppression of women.

>Finally, a book with a painting of a person wearing a mechanized suit of armor! Holding a rifle! War story ahoy! Nope, wait. It’s actually about gay and transgender issues.

>Or it could be about the evils of capitalism and the despotism of the wealthy.

>>9897281
>watches Sargon of Akkad once

>/sffg/ - /pol/ edition

Have you guys read the Forever War?

Can you guys describe it?

>>9897398
Granted I don't read much contemporary genre fiction, but I have a hard time believing there's such a glut of progressive propaganda being smuggled behind familiar book covers.

>>9897443
Man leaves home to fight war
comes back and everyone is mixed race homos
goes back to war to get away from them
entire platoon is mixed-race homos now
lots of homos die, war ends
homos de-gayed and unhomogenized because it was a stupid idea

>>9897398
>>These days, you can’t be sure.
Why don't you just read the blurb?

>>9897398
...and they're not wrong. I bought a book with a spaceship on the cover, and it was about some guy trying to find his gay lover in New York. At the end you find out that he left in a spaceship because he wasn't exclusive or something.

>>9897457
are you lying to me

>>9897480
He's exaggerating, but technically correct I guess.

>>9897458
>read

Pretty sure they don't actually read the books, just buy them so they can virtue signal to their buddies about how they're triggering SJWs or whatever.

>>9897460
>He wasn't wrong though.
thanks for playing /pol/
all you had to do was hold it in for a couple more posts but chimping out is in your nature I guess

>>9897471
ok, that's just hilarious

>>9897495
See: >>9897508

>>9897480
The homo stuff was a way to show a soldier returning to find his country's culture so changed that he couldn't reintegrate. I think it worked, the book was good.

>>9897490
Hasn't scifi been adopting contemporary social issues for several decades, though?

I mean, I get it. If you're someone who doesn't find the issues important, it's annoying. I only have a small stake in the erosion of traditional gender roles, since I think the media promoted images of masculinity and femininity are harmful stereotypes.

But, yeah, the idea of centering a fantasy or scifi story around gender politics is pretty silly to me.

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>>9897452
Don't most publishers just have a stable of artists who produce generic scifi/fantasy/surrealist works to be randomly used for covers anyways? You don't really start seeing specific "art for the book" stuff unless a author is famous (eg, Discworld, Pern) or it's after the mid 80s where Baen and other publishers started offering more "customized" publishing services.

>>9897530
>harmful stereotypes
How are they harmful?

>>9897550
Because not everyone fits easily into one of two categories? And the attempt to pigeon hole one's self generates more anxiety and negative personality traits than not.

>>9895758
Books like OP's pic?

>>9897550
Women get raped in fantasy books all the time and then promptly depart the story despite rape being the writer's tragedy.

Women are usually pretty subservient to their male counterparts sexually and hierarchically. Even on a person to person basis, women bending to male will is the norm. This bending of the knee is rarely born of any character growth and the like, but rather of necessity and assumption by the writer.

How is this harmful? The first is pretty clear I believe. The second is more a matter of teaching our girls that, against hardship, a man is the one to fix it. I think that sets the pretense for unbalanced relationships.

Only way to really fix it is female SF&F writers. Good female SF&F writers.

>>9897591
Never go full retard, anon.

>>9897576
>"gobbledygook"
>I checked out with K19 on Aldabaran III, and stepped out through the crummalite hatch on my 22 Model Sirus Hardtop. I cocked the timejector in secondary and waded through the bright blue manda grass. My breath froze into pink pretzels. I flicked on the heat bars and the Brylls ran swiftly on five legs using their other two to send out crylon vibrations. The pressure was almost unbearable, but I caught the range on my wrist computer through the transparent cysicites. I pressed the trigger. The thin violet glow was icecold against the rust-colored mountains. The Brylls shrank to half an inch long and I worked fast stepping on them with the poltex. But it wasn't enough. The sudden brightness swung me around and the Fourth Moon had already risen. I had exactly four seconds to hot up the disintegrator and Google had told me it wasn't enough. He was right.

>>9897576
>>9897587
Fair enough. It's strange to me that writers like Ursula Le Guin didn't set a better precedent for these kinds of stories. I mean, hell, even GRRM touched on gender politics in Dying of the Light.

I think what people are up in arms over is the loss of entertainment value. These stories are social commentary first, escapism second. My opinion is that if an author feels strongly enough about their platform, they should be writing nonfiction, not smuggling ideas through the backdoor at Tor.

>>9897591
>Only way to really fix it is female SF&F writers. Good female SF&F writers.

We had them, they got ostracized for slowly becoming (more) conservative after the 80's.

>>9897591
>Only way to really fix it is female SF&F writers. Good female SF&F writers.
You mean like Bujold?

>>9897623
This is unironically how much of the revolving cast at Clarkesworld writes. Fresh young faces, same old nonsense.

>>9897643
>>9897635

More the better.

>>9897648
Of course. Loyalty to another isn't a bad thing. It's just sometimes it feels a bit like a porn script.

I want an army of Ayn Rand clones to write sffg novels.

>>9897648
I think most ideals are harmful. Human beings are complex animals. We have the potential to become such a diverse cast of individuals, but for some reason decide to limit our potential with what amounts to modern idolatry.

>>9897680
>diverse cast of individuals
Playing within your role is how you get depth. Every attempt to make characters more "diverse" and "unique" just reduces them to piles of labels and issues. Ironically, in their desperate attempts to gain an identity, they've thrown their own away and become dull, easily replaceable cogs.

>>9897693
Yeah, probably. Both roads likely lead to ruin. My personal take is that humans are fundamentally insane. Sometimes I succumb to my own illness and take a stance on an issue that doesn't matter.

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Foster's Catechist trilogy. Unflappable herdsman travels the world so he can fulfill a vow given to a dying stranger. A few companions are gained (including lion/cheetah hybrid :3) and many strange locales are crossed. Plot is fairly minimal, 95% is descriptions of odd and occasionally surreal places with interesting properties that are overcome. When things get dire, the MC whips out solution from bag of tricks. 3/5 Coffee sipping krakens

>>9897707
Oh no doubt, there's no such thing as "sanity". Most things, maybe all of them, are illusions that we pretend are solid and real. It's very unnerving when you start noticing they're fake but still can't help but pretend anyway. Why am I talking about this with you? I honestly don't know. It's just a thing I do, maybe there's no reason.

>>9897627
>Ursula Le Guin didn't set a better precedent
Le Guin didn't set a better precedent because she's a diversity quota pick, even most people that recommend her stuff haven't actually read anything past the first Earthsea novel. She has less ratings than McCaffrey on Goodreads.

>>9897708
Sounds pretty neat, man. I like atmospheric fantasy that's more about the journey than the destination.

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>>9897680
I think ideals are about achieving as much as you can according to your nature, or at least they used to be before modernity corrupted them. Ideals are something to strive towards.
>>9897693
Yeah, in literature people are defined by their archetypes, their essence. If you start to blurr the lines too much it becomes very bland.

>>9897726
That's a shame. I'm reading her Earthsea cycle right now and loving it. It's interesting how drastically her style changes from book to book. A Wizard of Earthsea reads like an oral tradition, whereas Tombs of Atuan reads very postmodern, for instance.

Who was more cucked in the end, Proyas or Akka?

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The Vorrh does a good job of addressing cultural appropriation and race relations without losing the story, I think.

>>9897591
>Womameme writers
>Ever being good
uh huh

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>>9897724
>there's no such thing as "sanity
This is your brain on autistic atheism.

>>9897739
>le reddit bogeyman
Sad!
Grow up.

I recently read Lathe of Heaven and that was some solid classic science fiction. Another one of those that has the world suffering from overpopulation with (only) 7 billion people.

>>9897780
This was pretty convoluted and made little sense. My main takeaway is that you seem to be condemning a culture you help promote? And you're doing this from a position of superiority somehow?

>>9897791
I didn't make the comic edit but I dislike the cultural wasteland, it's not surprising that you'd soon find your grasp on sanity slipping after being immersed in it. Up is down and down is up in progressland.

I do like traditional fantasy and Gene Wolfe though, which is why I'm here. And I'm not being condescending from a position of superiority but I'm reaching down my hand to pull you out of the muck.

>>9897828
you come across as a wanker

How does Cordwainer Smith compare to Philip K. Dick? My local used bookstore didn't have any PKD so I picked up a 'best of' collection for Cordwainer Smith instead.

>>9897727
It's certainly that. There are also few chapters mixed in that are written from the perspective of a being native to the location and reacting to the travelers. Those were fun.

>>9897867
And you as a twat but I don't judge you for it.

>>9897627
>My opinion is that if an author feels strongly enough about their platform, they should be writing nonfiction, not smuggling ideas through the backdoor at Tor.

How is that different from authors in the past using science fiction/fantasy to promote their ideas? The idea of apolitical, opinionless science fiction especially is something you only see after the rise of Hollywood blockbusters like Star Wars that rely on inoffensive action and adventure to reach wider audiences of people who can't handle traditional SF. You might as well just go read Clive Cussler books and pretend Dirk Pitt is using a laser gun and driving a hover car.

also lol you seem pretty triggered about a specific publisher.

>>9895798
His collected short stories.

>>9897987
Star Wars was a throwback to the days of sc-fi BEFORE it went all horribly political.

>>9897987
>apolitical, opinionless science fiction
>Star Wars
it's about a revolutionary trying to bring down an evil empire, that sound skind apolitical
I think the thing with the "it's political" complaints is that the problem isn't in the presence of politics but in the flavor of politics presented
people don't want media cleansed of politics they want media cleansed of politics they don't agree with, which I can understand but at least be honest about it

>>9897987
I too enjoy Terry Goodkind very much, especially the later SoT books.

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>>9898046
If you're talking about "western with space ships instead of horses" maybe.

>And before we judge them [the Martians] too harshly, we must remember what ruthless and utter destruction our own species has wrought, not only upon animals, such as the vanished Bison and the Dodo, but upon its own inferior races. The Tasmanians, in spite of their human likeness, were entirely swept out of existence in a war of extermination waged by European immigrants, in the space of fifty years. Are we such apostles of mercy as to complain if the Martians warred in the same spirit?

>>9898061
You should change your writing style when responding to yourself fyi.

>>9898046
Star wars isn't a throwback to anything but western stories. It has nothing in common with early scifi writers like Shelley, Verne, Wells or Stapledon. And if you're gonna claim Golden Age scifi was apolitical, wew lad. Your ignorance of the genre is obvious.

>>9898059
lol you do understand that terry goodkind's problem is that hsiw riting is hamfisted shit and not that he's a nutjob libertarian
if he was a gifted writer he could glide those ideas in and be a-ok
but he's an edgelord who thinks up evil fucking chickens

>>9897726
Actually the problem is that Le Guin wrote several good novels, then read a book on feminist theory and never wrote anything worthwhile again.

>>9898069
>>9898076
Star Wars was a throwback to the days of sci-fi before nihilistic leftshits took over and made everything dreary and depressing.

>>9898090
>Star Wars was a throwback to the days of sci-fi before nihilistic leftshits took over and made everything dreary and depressing.
like all golden ages conservatives pine for this one never existed either

>>9898090
>Repeats incorrect phrases after refuting evidence is given
>Uses words he doesn't understand
We're done here.

>>9898098
>>9898106
Except it's all true.

>>9898090
>he thinks the good sci-fi is fantasy with spaceships

>>9898077
My post wasn't sarcastic, I really do enjoy him and I think he's a great writer. You just don't like his politics it would seem.

>>9898047
>revolutionary
reactionary, the Jedi order were religious fanatics who wanted to install a theocracy.

>evil empire
Democratically elected social unionists.

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>>9898135
Well, it kind of is, isn't it?

>>9898061
>meanwhile, Vox Day is pushing Alien Stripper Boned From Behind By The T-Rex by Stix Hiscock
Kek

>>9898076
Possibly the closest connection to real Science Fiction that Star Wars has is the Lensman series, which shares many of the same ideas (ie, the Lensmen have magical power bracelets that give them Jedi-style powers), advocates eugenics and obliquely implies B/S incest to produce a super race of posthumans, and IIRC one of the early stories have a villain working for the evil aliens who runs for office on a nationalist platform and uses a bunch of antisemetic dogwhistles. ("Monied Powers" is the main one I remember)

>>9898090
lmao are you copying these posts from voat or something?

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>>9898157
and probably getting smoked in sales by any chuck tingle book

Any sff featuring futanari?

>>9898168
Chart anon should add this to his recommendations.

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>>9898157
It's actually pretty good.

>>9898168
???
Vox Day just published two books that are sitting on both #1 and #2 best sellers in their respected genres.

Fuckibg readbivdsighr

>>9898212
you're gonna have to be more specific - as in, gimme a link to that list

>>9897987
>also lol you seem pretty triggered about a specific publisher.

http://www.tor.com/2016/10/06/tor-com-publishing-opening-to-fantasy-novellas-on-october-12th/

>>9898236
Fucking Blindsight

>>9898257
>If you have a novella you want to submit that doesn’t fit these parameters, don’t give up hope. Our plan is to rotate which genre we’re soliciting periodically, so check back here and on our submissions guideline page regularly. Once we’ve worked our way through these submissions, we’ll re-open for a different genre.

man this is white genocide

>>9898161
>real Science Fiction
Oof never go full retard.

>>9898135
>M-MUH HARD SCI-FI
kek fuck off, faggot.

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>>9898046
>>9898076
The keystone of Star Wars is Edgar Rice Burroughs and his John Carter tales, as well as Burroughs disciples like C.L. Moore and Leigh Brackett (worked on the ESB script.) The western influence also comes from Burroughs, whose aliens are like indians. The films are bastardised planetary romances/sword and sorcery. Leia = Dejah Thoris. Han Solo = Northwest Smith. Luke Skywalker is a mix of Robert Howard's Conan, Paul from Dune, or an early Robert Heinlein protag.

>>9898312
>Now, to wrinkle your raisin, how would you react to a publishing house that clearly stated "submissions not written by niggers preferred" when looking for new stuff? Because that's pretty much what TOR is doing here.
it's almost like this is different because one group is predominant in society and has been heavily privileged while the other isn't and wasn't
it's almost like a company spending a 3 month period in THIRTY SEVEN YEARS of existence looking for writers with different viewpoints isn't a nefarious plan to wipe out the white race
it's almost like your "i'm looking for true equality" is a purely rhetorical shtick that you use to cover up your white supremacism
it's almost like I haven't got any intention of discussing this shit with you since I believe it's completely useless - you don't give a fuck about debate

>>9898331
That's kinda proving the conservative anon correct though, Burroughs was a borderline fascist.

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The 'grimdark' label scares me, but I'm seeing multiple comparisons to Conan and Yojimbo so I can't pass this up.

>>9898346
It's an interesting hodge podge - it never quite goes full Edgar Rice Burroughs, and the New Wave element creeps in via Frank Herbert and Dune. A fan of both pulp and new wave can have a lot of fun spotting its constituent conventions and subversions.

>>9898372
>epic grimdark
>title is literally Brutal
aw fuck this might be terrible

>>9898394
I think it's going to be more along of the lines of REH and Karl Edward Wagner rather than the grimderpness of Abercrombie.

>>9898339
>isn't a nefarious plan to wipe out the white race
What's this obsession with wiping out whites of yours? You keep brining it up our of the blue, it's almost like you think about it a lot or something.

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>>9898398
>How about people are judged by the same standards and play by the same rules?

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>>9898339
Just report him. The mods will clean him up soon enough.

>>9898440
It's fitting that picture be posted in the sci-fi and FANTASY thread since that's exactly what it is: a fantasy.

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>>9898440
That's a nice liberal fantasy I suppose.

>>9898442
It's not about politics though, it's about sffg publishing, which happens to have strong political motivations in TOR's case, but that's irrelevant. It's funny because it's apparent by the way the nu-left tries to silence its critics that they cannot justify their shit at all, they have been to long inside their echo chambers.

>>9898473
You were spewing the n word outside of pol or b. That is bannable.
If I could get banned for mentioning that R and T place, you will get banned for breaking their rules. It's a blue board after all.

>>9898490
>white guilt is retarded.
yes it is. we agree on that. the thing is that "white guilt" to people like you is any attempt to make a more just society as well as the "woke" morons on twitter buying safety pins. you put all of these in the same bag and then put the nice little label on it and your job is done, it's all the same.

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>>9895758

I have bittersweet memories listening to 'Together Forever' because I moved around a lot as a kid and I'd listen to this (like a faggot) knowing that I'd never have the kind of life-long friends they had in the show.

Where the hell is the mod?
This is getting out of hand now. >>9898490 >>9898440

>>9898473
>It's not about politics though, it's about sffg publishing, which happens to have strong political motivations in TOR's case, but that's irrelevant.
take it to the publishing thread
we are here to discuss books not the publishing industry
you and your friend(s) are just fucking the thread up
want to talk about sff books with racism? go ahead
want to talk about "supposed racism" in the publishing industry? take it to pol or make a thread about it

>>9898517
Just report the posts that break the rules. That's what the report button is for. Do you think that moderators are psychic?

>>9898530
Nice job baiting you fucking samefag.

>>9898252
Probably theses two https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/271590011/

>Publisher: Castalia House

>>9898517
>supposed racism
Is it supposed if they admit to discriminating?

Another thread dies to offtopic polshit

>>9898555
Just report

>>9898530
You really need to take a step back and evaluate how you spend your energy.
>>9898549
It's not racism, it's the invisible hand of the free market. Tor wants to sell more books to untapped demographics, and this is what their team came up with. A truly great white male writer isn't going to get replaced being published, some shitty nobody will, and future potential writers might be found due to picking up a book they might not have before due to some blogger's recommendation.

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>tfw now /pol/ has been active in the thread we'll have to suffer from /lgbt/ again until the thread goes back to one post every 6 hours because the regulars leave for discord again
I still miss you dinoposter.

>>9898576
Let's just discuss light novels.

>>9898584
Kumo Desu Ga is good.

>>9898592
That cover art style is one of the ones I've been trying to emulate.

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Has anyone read "The Phoenix and the Mirror" by Avram Davidson?

I'm about 50 pages in and not sure what to think. I'm not drawn in yet, I feel like I'm missing lots of the classical references. Basically reading this because Gene Wolfe said Davidson was a "fine, fine writer" but hmm

>>9898568
>It's not racism
Yes it is, doesn't really matter if it's racism driven by greed or hate.

Lets all just agree to gas the jews and get back to reading about pedophile wizards sucking their own dicks. In unrelated news I'm about 3/4 of the way through Elric of Melnibone, it's pretty okay so far but nothing to write home about. Anyone read the rest of the series?

>alien invasion series, but with a twist: the planet they invaded is a FANTASY PLANET!
Any stuff like this?

>>9898786
Bakker's second apocalypse is practically about that.
Although it's not immediate obvious in the plot.

>>9898855
I was thinking of something more along the lines of pulp. Like the aliens have blasters, mechs, typical advanced tech and the defenders using typical fantasy fare like swords, sorcery, dragons and such.

>>9897627
People have been using art as a "platform" for expressing their ideas and opinions since the beginning of time. It's supposed to reflect the times and environments they lived in. You tell me any fiction and I will tell you how it's an author's expression of their ideas

>>9898576
Are you under the impression that /lgbt/ = not /pol/? They're the most similar boards in political leaning of the ones I frequent

Geographically huge fantasy settings?

>>9897900
Some of his short stories have a dreamlike quality similar to some of PKD's and he occasionally deals in existential terror, but overall he's not too similar. Cordwainer Smith is good though, definitely worth a read.

>>9899132
Neat, thanks! I'll check him out.

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This was fucking phenominal.

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>>9897245

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One thing I like about the second Dying Earth book, The Eyes Of The Overworld, is any chapter can be reread in isolation, because each one is a little self contained episode of Cugel arriving at a strange place, getting into trouble with the locals, and leaving a trail of destruction and acrimony. The wry prose, irony, and witty dialogue improve with experience,and there is always picturesque scenery. Now, for all it's grandeur, I can't enjoy Wolfe's Book Of The New Sun in the same piecemeal way.

Can anyone recommend shit where the vibe is "we don't know what we're fucking with," something with the sublime spookiness or loneliness of being completely dwarfed by something completely alien

Or maybe the loneliness of being lost in a dying/dead world, I love that shit. It was my favorite thing about LOTR and I love it about Wolfe too.

>>9899384
The Night Land

>>9899384
Rendezvous with Rama

Which novel makes the best intro to science fiction?

>>9898786
Out of the dark by Weber
High tech aliens with gravity manipulating vehicles comes to earth and . mets Dracula

>>9899349
Both Cugel books are entertaining series of episodes without much continuity. Their respective titles (Eyes of the Overworld, Skybreak Spatterlight) are only mcguffins that serve as a start to his misadventures. 10/10 pulp

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About to read this

>>9899558
It's YA but I remember it being good

>>9897245
>>9897098
Anyone have The knife of many hands short story by Bakker? Can't find it anywhere. Seen it around a few months back.

>>9899410
Seconding this

>>9898046
Star Wars was just a ripoff of some comic.

>>9899558
>>9899574
It and the sequel were so damn good for a children's book.

>>9899228
I read this a couple of years ago, really enjoyed it. Everything written by Stroud is great tbqh.

How do you feel about Silmarillion?

Geographically huge fantasy settings?
Something like ringworld without spaceships

>>9897574
Senlin Ascends

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Science fiction or fantasy with greater sexual dimorphism than real life plz

>>9900289
Legends of the First Empire
females >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> males

>>9900296
This is the opposite of what I wanted

>>9898440
Except in the real world, the people participating in the racial struggle today are not the same people who participated in the struggle back then. Just because the slavers and racists had the same color as me, doesn't mean that I owe anything to people who have the same skin color as those who were enslaved and discriminated. Why would I feel guilt for something that happened before I was even alive? Are you saying that today's young Germans should be beholden to going to Israel and shooting Palestinians just because other Germans were shooting Jews 70 years ago?

>>9899448
It depends on what kind of "science fiction" you're looking for:

Dune (science fantasy: the Chosen One leads the Space Jihad and usurps the Emperor's throne)
Foundation (middle sf: what would it be like if someone could use math to predict the future with high accuracy?)
Rendezvous with Rama (hard sf: what is the atmospheric pressure at the centerline of a cylinder of radius 8km with standard conditions at...)

>>9899575
Here https://pastebin.com/wATYu5GC
not going to help though

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Is it just me or is the quality of a scifi/fantasy book directly correlated with how much GRI is in it?

>>9899575
If you followed my chart the first part is on MAM

>>9897284
>No one remains uncucked or unraped.
Serwe is pure.

>>9898882
The Cuno-Inchoroi wars in the background of the Second Apocalypse stuff are a bunch of transhumanist aliens employing nukes and particle beams against fantasy emo elves with flying chariots and mages and fire swords.

>>9899998
Feanor did nothing wrong.

>>9896440
I once had a dream I met god while the world ended. The whole earth was flooded except for one tiny cafe at the top of the world. She was in an old pink chanel skirt suit, looking harried and writing in her matching pink organizer while a slice of untouched strawberry cake sat at her elbow. She looked about forty, and had sandy blond hair in bob. I didn't talk to her, because she looked pretty stressed out, since the whole world was ending and all, and I didn't want to bother her.

>>9900289
Second Apocalypse :^) but seriously, Dunyain Men are Aryan ubermensch. Dunyain women are huge immobile breeders with a distended abdomen like a naked mole rat queen.

>>9895917
Glad to see it here. I love Novak.

>>9896192
Pern. Kinda. When the dragons have sex, the riders have telepathic sex at the same time.

>>9898491
>the n word
why are you censoring yourself? why are you triggered by a simple word that comes from the latin word for black?

>>9900303
How? Sexual dimorphism goes both ways

>>9898491
Could Americans explain to me why some people censor "nigger" when talking about the racist word itself? I mean, I understand censoring someone in the following situation:
>You fuckin' n****r, go back to the fuckin' plantations
But I cannot understand why would you censor it when discussing the word itself. You're not calling anyone "nigger", nor are you in any other way being racist when you simply use the word to refer to the word. Why censor it then?

>>9900436
Would you recommend the pern series?

>>9900588
They are ungood words and should not be used

>>9900588
It's a really bad word. Same goes for the c-word, k-word, and r-word.

>>9900588
They have voice activated mines in their skulls that will detonate if they "trigger" them with offensive language.

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>>9900588
This is a Christian board.

>>9900591
very much so. I love the books. The Dragonriders of Pern is the first three books in one.

>>9900596
r-word? You mean reddit?

Where can I get audiobooks other than from audiobookbay? for free

>>9900616
Like in my diagram, the major ones places are ABB (Public) and MAM (private). Mobilism if you don't mind shit tier download speeds. If you have extensive overdrive access from your local library, most libraries include it, you can also use that.

>>9900632
And IRC is vastly unhelpful due to the slow transmission speed but you can also check that.

>>9900616
Probably slsk.

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>>9900616
Give me your email, i can invite you on anonamouse

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>>9896659
>>9896467
For headache diagnosis the most important symptoms you'd have to describe are the location, the type of main, any symptoms alongside it, when the headaches happen, what drugs and over the counter shit you are taking, how old you are, your gender, your cultural background, if the headache is sudden or slow, if it is getting worse, any vision changes, illnesses etc

Then a vital signs check, feel of the entire head, looking up your ears, nose, throat, a neuro exam and having people looking at your eyes just in case.

The most worrying headaches are the ones that get worse (suggesting mass phenomenon of a tumour) and 'thunderclap' (aka the worse headache of your life) which suggests a subarachnoid haemorrhage which is a medical emergency.

>>9900616
>>9900680
If you are going to give out invites make sure you do it privately via pm. Hop onto the /sffg/ discord or something just in case there are those really autistic private tracker staff members or trolls who will report your email.

>>9900687
>the type of main
I mean the time of the day sorry.

I've recently started to read the Lord of the Rings. I've seen the movies and know a good deal about the lore already, I find the book engaging and enjoy the time I spend reading it.

Here's the issue, though. It's taken me 5+ hours in total to read the "Concerning Hobbits" chapter, chapter 1, and chapter 2. I'm not even 100 pages into the book yet and I've already spent what feels like a massive amount of time on it.

This has always been a roadblock I've had when I try to get back into reading. It just takes me forever to get through anything if I want to comprehend and remember it. If I go any faster, my eyes will see and recognize the words, but I won't absorb anything.

I feel like I could enjoy reading a lot more if it wasn't so time consuming. Is there some kind of way to learn how to read faster? I've read a modest amount of books in my life already, so simply reading more has not been that helpful.

>>9900779
audiobooks

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>>9899998
I wish there was more books like it.

>>9896467
You gonna get Berryconed.

>>9900835
Lovely pic

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>>9900422

>>9900558
Because you get banned for it outside of pol or b if the mods are feeling feisty that day?
Because I don't feel like have a week - month ban?

>>9900588
The word itself is a taboo. Generations have been conditioned to be strongly averse to its use in any context.

>>9900588
>Could Americans explain to me why some people censor "ni
Because it's bannable on 4chan. You're some edgy kid that was never banned huh? You don't know of withdrawals? You do everything in your power to not get banned again.

Are there any good slasher-horror novels?

>Friday 13th
>Nightmare on Elm Street
>Halloween
Etc.

Aside from Stephen King, that is?

>>9897708
Sounds like dark is the sun.

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>>9900972
I like her art a lot, she manages to capture Tolkien's writing quite close to how I imagined it while reading.

What are you guys reading?
Anyone got stone sky and shadow of things to come?

>>9900588
It's to preserve the power of the word, should it ever be needed. Bastard used to have power, it has a much grander history of oppression and marginalisation than nigger. But people wasted ot, and no one even thinks twice about it now. Words have power and we have learned to use that power sparingly. I once saw a grand wizard kill a black man using just taboo words

Thoughts on my reading list? Just getting into sci-fi so i want to start with some shorter things:

The Invention of Morel by Adolfo Bioy Casares
Last and First Men by Olaf Stapledon
Burning Chrome by William Gibson
Mirrorshades by Bruce Sterling
Ribofunk by Paul Di Filippo
Pixel Juice by Jeff Noon

>>9901500
I'm also planning on getting The Ballad of Halo Jones, do you guys know of any other good sci-fi comics/graphic novels?

>>9901329
>What are you guys reading?
Dying Earth, or I'm about to start.

So I have been writing short stories from the perspective of a human ambassador to an alien race. He is part of the first team sent to work with this newly discovered race and is having to essentially rewrite the entire book on negotiating to try and cater to this new species.

I had a friend read one of the rough drafts for a short story, where the ambassador eats a meal with one of the creatures and he remarks several things about their specie's gender politics within their media (they had invented mass media and he viewed some of it with the creature).

My friend thought it would make a lot of people angry, basically 'piss of tumblr folks' was his thoughts. Should I be worried about poking the bear?

For reference the species in question has four distinct sexes:
Donor (2)
Carrier
Infertile

There are two varieties of donor who each give DNA to a carrier who give birth to the children. Infertile members of the species do not participate except in a subservient role. It was the Infertile portion of the species that he said would piss people off. The ambassador remarks about the infertile folks and draws parallels between human servants/slaves, but is rebuffed upon further investigation. The human civil rights movement fell apart in analogue when he realized the Infertile members of the species have very little self motivation or ability to make decisions for themselves, and are quite literally mentally impaired.

What's sffg's recommended reading order of Sword of Truth?

>>9899124
The Book of All Hours

Anyone here read Andrew Rowe - Sufficiently Advanced Magic Arcane Ascension, Book 1

How is it?

>>9901500
>>9901512
pls respond

Any enjoyable books about Mechs/Space battles?
After Starship trooper (than was cool but not that much action) and the lost fleet I only found flawed if enjoyable books in mil sci fi. Gettin on the Hammer slammers and it's my jam, but Tanks don't make me as hard as space ships and power armors.

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>>9901884
Read this right now.

>>9899574
>>9899641
Shit, it won 14 awards so I'd certainly hope so. I must say though that I just finished the first part of the book and it is very enjoyable.

>>9901898
Would do.

>>9901919
It's by far the most immersive military sci fi novel around. You'll get second-hand bug war PTSD.

I'd also recommend the "Ember War Saga" series if you want something fast paced that lacks depth but is very pleasant to read (the audiobook version is also beyond excellent)

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So I'm reading Sword of the Lictor right now and a friend accidentally spoiled me on there being multiple timelines and multiple Severians

Is it even worth finishing now? I've lost all drive to continue reading even though I was REALLY enjoying it before

>>9901750
this isn't /tg/ so we don't care sorry mate

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What makes you guys shrug something off as 'generic' sci-fi/fantasy?

Fantasy
>Tolkien fantasy
>Steam & Magic
>Mythological monsters

Sci-Fi
>No whacky shit

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Ok I just finished Citadel of the Autarch

It was okay, not really a fantasy dude and there weren't as many scifi aspects as I was expecting but heyo

Should I just move onto Urth right away? + Is there anything cool I can be told about now I've officially finished BotNS? Think I could a good grasp of what occurred but I am a dumbo so who knows

>>9901963
>What makes you guys shrug something off as 'generic' sci-fi/fantasy?
Bad prose. Archetypal shallow characters.

>>9901963
>Not liking monsters, specially folk based ones.
Pleb.

>>9901945
Started it already, and has some interesting tidbits already like the sexually integrated warrior class.
About audiobooks, English isn't my first mother language so I have difficulties hearing it, so I prefer on print or digital. And I love pulpy shit, heck I liked the revelation cycle, and the first books is about a brony fatty than it's left as heritage a merc company (a bankrupt one tough).

>>9901500
Read Dune, if u liked the wacky shit do Hyperion if u liked the more series houses etc Foundation Trilogy
After that just read Blindsight you pussy

>>9901864
unironically the worst book I've read this year and possibly the worst book I've ever read

>>9901500
I never heard of any of those.
I would go for classics if you didn't already, what do you like about sci fi?

>>9902004
The Hyperion series fucking sucks, I do not understand why you guys like it so much.

Admittedly, the first book is pretty damn good. It set up a very interesting world and story and cucks you with a perfect cliffhanger at the end. But after that it all goes to shit. Everything introduced in the second book was just plain bad, and having everything solved by deus ex machinas was outright insulting to my intelligence.

Fuck Hyperion, and fuck the author too

>>9902033
what's wrong with Fall of Hyperion?
I know it's very tonally different from H but it does a good job of concisely wrapping up the stories from it's predecessor. What's the Deus Ex machina? If you didn't see it coming you're a dumbo

>>9902019
You serious? How could it be that bad

>>9902047
it reads like bad fan fiction -- the actual prose is atrocious, the plot is nonsensical in patches and the author repeatedly keeps telling you about the power levels of the characters in a more blatant way than most anime/video games

>>9901963
>Tolkien fantasy
I'm not even sure what this even means at this point. Tolkien a best and his work is completely unique. What are some Tolkien fantasy books according to you?

Hissing, hackles lifting, the chicken's head rose.

Kahlan pulled back.

Its claws digging into stiff dead flesh, the chicken slowly turned to face her. It cocked its head, making its comb flop, its wattles sway.

"Shoo," Kahlan heard herself whisper.

There wasn't enough light, and besides, the side of its beak was covered with gore, so she couldn't tell if it had the dark spot. But she didn't need to see it.

"Dear spirits, help me," she prayed under her breath.

The bird let out a slow chicken cackle. It sounded like a chicken, but in her heart she knew it wasn't. In that instant, she completely understood the concept of a chicken that was not a chicken. This looked like a chicken, like most of the Mud People's chickens. But this was no chicken.

This was evil manifest.

>>9902098
I forgot the esque.

But essentially using his races and monsters.

>>9902098
Shannara

>>9902046
Unsatisfying conclusions to interesting plot threads (the impaler tree, shrike origins, tombs moving backwards through time cross parasite, etc.)

Cheesiest ending to a sci-fi novel ever (she defeats the shrike with the power of love, or because she believes hard enough? What the fuck is that?)

And the worst offender was the introduction of the awful Gary Stu protagonist that nobody gave a shit about. You can't just constantly drag focus away from what you spent an entire book building up and expect the readers to like this character. Every time I started a new chapter and it went back to him I lost all motivation to read. It really just feels like the author needed him to pad out the book because the encounter at the time tombs wasn't long enough for a whole book

>>9902072
I've never read any LitRPG before and kinda wanted to give it a try

>>9901953
Someone pls answer me

I want to know if Im wasting my time reading this if I already know the big twist

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>>9901963
Anything with dwarfs and elves that isn't being ironic. Although I've no problem with mythical figures like cyclops, undines, sylphs, gnomes, gorgons, lycanthropes, vampires, lizard-men, chimeras, witches, golems, incubi and succubi, shadow-men and demons, so maybe I'm being inconsistent. Elves and dwarves feel corny and lazy.

>>9902103
Holy... I want more

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>>9902139
I'm >>9901967
I don't think it'll harm your reading of it. There's a lot of nonetheless interesting twists and turns to the plot without that major spoiler.
I might not explain this very well but what you've said is such a BIG spoiler it's almost too large to impact the small page-to-page plot.

>>9902004
>>9902024
None of that stuff sounds interesting at the moment but i will probably pick them up in the future, i picked most of the stuff in my post because i was interested in cyberpunk

>>9902122
hey I'm just one guy on the internet, if it's not costing you money you may as well check it out for yourself

for whatever it's worth the only other people I've seen in /sffg/ post about have been negative, but a lot of people on goodreads and r/fantasy did seem to like it so I suppose it must have something going for it even if I didn't see what it was

>>9902141
it's possible to do dwarves / elves well, but mostly i agree. although i part ways in also dropping for werewolves and vampires. zombies too. those have been thoroughly ruined, and i don't trust authors to rehabilitate them.

>>9902151
Fuck... I was going to finish the book anyways but I'm so pissed off that I got spoiled. I hate spoilers so much. It's like my friend robbed me of this weird air of mystery the book exudes. It always felt like there was something strange and fishy going on beyond the scenes but now that mystery is kind of gone

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>>9902141
>maybe I'm being inconsistent
You are. I think it depends on how you use them, any mythological creatures can feel cheap in the hands of a hack.

>>9902178
Trust me there's enough going on without that theory
Which it is, not a fact

>>9901963
>Young man/woman sets out on an adventure
>The chosen/most special person of which the prophecy speaks
>Having stock fantasy creatures with different goofy names means I'm not aping Tolkien
>It's a sixteen part trilogy

>>9902213
>>Young man/woman sets out on an adventure
Oh fuck off. This is so vague as to apply to everything.

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>>9902174
Yes it's a problem of overcoming cliches and I might have included zombies in things I avoid. If I was a writer I would consider drawing on modern folklore and crypto-zoology to avoid the weight of history and convention: el chupacabra, dogman (admittedly lycanthropes under a new name), grinning man, black eyed children, skunk apes, etc.

>>9902281
Not really but I could be more specific. It's the hero's journey and bildungsroman shenanigans that are so prevalent, especially at the start.

>>9902311
For beasts I'd go with prehistoric megafauna under new names. Megatherium, terrorbirds, entelodonts etc

>>9902311
I'm a biologist and man some of the interactions at the smaller scale are fascinating. Reimagine the relationships of spiders, ants and millipedes at the macro scale with mammalian reskins of the arthropods and that's already a fascinating experiment.

I also recommend evolutionary history. What if whales never went back to the sea? What if birds lost flight for brains? Get creative with it.

>>9902147
Her power, her magic, was also a weapon of defense. But it would only work on people. It would not work on a chicken. And it would not work on wickedness incarnate.
Her gaze flicked toward the door, checking the distance. The chicken took a single hop toward her. Claws gripping Juni's upper arm, it leaned her way. Her leg muscles tightened till they trembled.
The chicken backed up a step, tensed, and spurted feces onto Juni's face.
It let out the cackle that sounded like a laugh.
She dearly wished she could tell herself she was being silly. Imagining things.
But she knew better.

Kahlan frantically tried to think as the chicken bawk-bawk-bawked.

"Mother," the chicken croaked.
Kahlan flinched with a cry.

[Kahlan knocks over a candle by mistake, plunging the barn into darkness]
In the dark, the chicken thing let out a low chicken cackle laugh.
It hadn't come from whre she expected the chicken to be. It was behind her.
"Please, I mean no harm," she called into the darkness. "I mean no disrespect. I will leave you to your business now, if that's all right with you."
She took another shuffling step toward the door. She moved carefully, slowly, in case the chicken thing was in the way. She didn't want to bump into it and make it angry. She mustn't underestimate it.
Kahlan had on any number of occasions thrown herself with ferocity against seemingly invincible foes. She knew well the value of a resolute violent attack. But she also somehow knew beyond doubt that this adversary could, if it wanted, kill her as easily as she could wring a real chicken's neck. If she forced a fight, this was one she would lose.

The chicken thing let out a whispering cackle.

>>9902479
[she's trying to find the door, she's crying and panicking, she stubs her toe and falls down.]
With the next flash of lightning, she saw chicken feet standing between her and the crack under the door. The thing wasn't more than a foot from her face.

The beak pinched the vein on the back of her hand over her eyes. The chicken tugged, as if trying to pull a worm from the ground.
It was a command. It wanted her hand away from her eyes.
The beak gave a sharp tug on her skin. There was no mistaking the meaning in that insistent yank. Move the hand, now, it was saying, or you'll be sorry.
If she made it angry, there was no telling what it was capable of doing to her. Juni lay dead above her as a reminder of the possibilities.
She told herself that if it pecked at her eyes, she would have to grab it and try to wring its neck. If she was quick, it could only get in one peck. She would have one eye left. She would have to fight it then. But only if it went for her eyes.
Her instincts screamed that such action would be the most foolish, dangerous thing she could do. Both the Bird Man and Richard said this was not a chicken. She no longer doubted them. But she might have no choice.
If she started, it would be a fight to the death. She held no illusion as to her chances. Nonetheless, she might be forced to fight it. With her last breath, if need be, as her father had taught her.
The chicken snatched a bigger beakful of her skin along with the vein and twisted. Last warning.
Kahlan carefully moved her trembling hand away. The chicken-thing cackled softly with satisfaction.

>>9902477
If you haven't already done so, you should read Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon, a writer equally beloved by Virginia Woolf and Lovecraft. He presents imagined chronicles of the rise and fall of various alien civilisations who evolved into intelligent life from fish/insect/birds, as well as symbiotic beings, from the floating POV of an astral traveler after an argument with his wife.

>>9902544
That sounds really intriguing, almost like David Bowman in 2001 transcending human consciousness and being able to freely travel the Cosmos

>>9902554
Well, the atral traveling bit isn't formally identified as such, but it so obviously is that. As for Kubrick and his films, I keep hearing how he is a covert occultist and how his films are dense with esoteric analogies and symbols. It's one area I've been meaning to look into. Occultists tend to work by indirect means of metaphor and allusion; and some others in SFFG may recall my fanciful speculation about HP Lovecraft as an unwitting vessel/devotee of transmitted esoteric knowledge.

>>9902583
Have you seen Eyes Wide Shut? If not I recommend it.

>>9902587
>Leelee Sobieski as frisky jailbait
>Nicole's booty
I heartily approve of this movie.

>>9902587
No but I am familiar with the outline/plot. I'm surprised he could make a hollywood movie about secret societies of elite hedonists - presented as an erotic thriller, sure, but it would seem to shine a light on the mere existence of cabals. I found 2001 boring, but I don't like Arthur C Clark much either.

>>9901884
Undying Mercenaries
Galaxy's Edge
The Revelations Cycle

>>9902619
Didn't he die shortly after finishing the movie? Hm...

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>>9901963
If it's just a setting and doesn't explore themes which are only possible through situations that the genre is able to offer.

>>9901956
I'm confused, why would /tg/ care?

>>9902919
they have worldbuilding generals where people talk about their creations etc
there's a little oc discussion here but main we just like to talk about the published works of the genre

>>9902932
I tried posting there and was told to fuck off because I mentioned gender politics.

>>9903084
It doesn't matter which side your on, /tg/ suffers from worse than /leftypol/ or /pol/, they have a very large resident population of tumblrinas who unironically get triggered by even the slightest of western values.

>>9902141
>that pic
Is that a literal Semen Demon looking for a chubby to sit on?

Interested in humans fighting aliens such as Tyranids, Zerg, or Xenomorphs, what can you recommend /sffg/?

two questions

>where does the line between deconstruction and parody begin?
>are escapist genre parodies always shit?

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>>9903205
It's probably open to interpretation, but the torso is a woman's. It's by 17thC Italian artist Salvatore Rosa, who Lovecraft namechecks in a few stories, having seen his paintings. He is better known for foreboding landscapes but he was also fond of witches.

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>>9903310
Pic related is the kind of picture he iis more commonly known for.

>>9902932
The Worldbuilding threads are terrible and should be renamed "50 excuses why guns don't exist in my power fantasy setting".

>>9902122
Consider trying a home castration instead of reading LitRPG, it'll be more fun.

>>9895917
loved reading that whole series, the initial book or two where's he's super fucking tsundere is great

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Has anyone read the Expeditionary Force books?
Worth reading?

Has anyone in this thread ever succeeded in quitting a story entirely? I don't mean stopping writing, but managing to stop yourself from thinking about it, caring about it, even fondly remembering it

Any communist or syndicalist recs?

>>9902800
>one of the characters is murdered by the occultists
>Whole scene about how it's just a "coincidence" she died, there's no possible way she was murdered! You're just crazy, it's just a conspiracy theory, ignore it and move one! Nothing to see here.
>Director dies immediately after the movie comes out
>"WHAT A COINCIDENCE!"
If that shit's not real I'll eat my hat.

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>>9903849
It's easy. You just need some more rejection letters to solidify the reality that you are trash and no one wants to read your drivel.

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anything good released in the past year? talking about fantasy, sci fi or horror. good, not middling.

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