How do stirnerites reconcile with the fact that people are completely helpless the first 10-15 years of their lives, and rely on selfless love and help of their parents and society to survive into adult years? How can they possibly choose egoism over philanthropy?
>>9859939
My parents abused me, you narrow-minded fuck.
I'm not 10-15 years old anymore, not my problem.
but to give a non-meme answer, I think Stirner would consider that kind of care for one's child egoistic.
>>9859939
They get rewarded through hormons and retirement safety. There is no true altruism.
>>9859953
This, we have children for our own selfish reasons
>>9859939
Selfless love is selfish goofie. Stirner himself wanted the union of egoists to live with another, that would mean love and hate, etc.
Have none of you fucks actually read his work? It is literally one short book.
Caring about your family is in your own self-interest, because you love your family.
Stirner never said to be a selfish prick. He said to not put an abstract idea above yourself.
>>9859960
>Do you actually think your parents raised you to have a future investment?
It's subconscious, just like love. It's human nature and we humans have just decorated our urges. Just because a woman will feel an inner deep and unspecific urge torwards children at her peak fertility it doesn't mean that she thinks about a nice retirement while doing so. Our body works in hormones, making us want something for a higher goal like "love" or in other aspects "religious enlightment", we can push ourself further towards it as if compared to just making the subconscious think the goal.
Everything you do is to your own selfish goal, in the end to preserve your "selfish genes". Even something like sacrificing yourself for a loved one will profit you (as your genes) as your loved onces probably are genetically near yourself if not even you pregnant wife/ kids, in which case killing yourself will preserve them).
That's just how humans work, doesn't mean you have to be a prick to accept it.
>>9859962
>having children for selfish reasons
I am inclined to agree; the reason being the either conscious or subconscious desire to escape existential pressure. To clarify with an example: ask any parent what their purpose is - "My child(ren), of course". I would like to make one more trivial point - selfish in this context does by no means imply anything negative.
>>9859962
My mom even admits she had my younger sister so that she has someone when she's older, because I'll be away kek
>>9860005
My mother got me to get her own flat with her husband.
>tfw she divorced him quickly and raised me with the hate for her ex-husband which she had to see daily in my face
>>9860071
Complete disregard for the feelings of other people. She's probably a narcist, so I'm not surprised. She even kicked my underage sibling out because he didn't fit in her new family with another man.
Probably the same biological urges which feral animals like lions have towards the young of the ex alpha. So we should consider us lucky to just have been redpilled instead of made into a snack.
Stirner is not Ayn Rand. You should read him instead of just memeing him.
>>9859971
Thanks.