Is there any notable literature by a black author that doesn't

Amos Tutuola, Alexander Pushkin, Machado de Assis, etc.

>>9820023
Giovanni's Room
Sci-fi Black Lady's stuff
Dhalgren and Denaly's other stuff
Famished Road
Invisible Man uses race as an existential narrative device, if you count that

>>9820029
Please continue, I am genuinely interested to hear them, I haven't been exposed to anything outside of relatively recent American literature, I didn't mean this in a /pol/ bait way.

My diary desu

>>9820073
Scan it and let me download senpai

>>9820052
>Invisible Man uses race as an existential narrative device, if you count that

HG Wells was not black, you idiot.

>>9820060
I'm not that anon but you should really looking Machado de Assis, he's a brilliant Brazilian author.
Pushkin is the Shakespeare of Russia, all of Russia's greats cite him in almost all of their works. He's of African descent but to definitively state that he is black is a stretch.
Idk about Tutuola

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>>9820080
i hope you're enjoying your summer vacation you retarded faggot

You can find that out by reading Black Authors instad of just jerking off to preconcieved notions.

>>9820099
Like who? Maya Angelou? Richard Wright?

>>9820099
You should read the OPs posts before commenting keyboard warrior.

>>9820107
I did. It got the response it warranted.

>>9820105
Obviously not, those authors are trash.
Why don't you start with the ones actually mentioned in the thread

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>>9820060
The Fishermen - Obioma
Petals of Blood, Devil on the Cross, and Wizard of the Crow - Thiongo
Half of a Yellow Sun - Adichie

Honest question how is Toni Morrison and who can she be compared to? I don't care if her work has to do with race. If I want white books I'll read John Franzen

"William Shakespeare"

>>9820118
I have heard alot on /lit/ through the years that for "people like us" song of solomon is a lot more palatable than beloved or the rest of her corpus

>>9820118
If I tell you Pynchon I'll get jumped on by nerds so I'll just say that if you read Morrison and Pynchon in close proximity you will note enough similarities to reach your own informed opinion. Also there are several academic papers associating the two with one another in varying degrees.
Read Song of Solomon.

>>9820114
What "preconcieved notions" are you talking about?
I haven't talked about my politics or race, all I said was I happen to be uninformed about literature from a segment of society.
Go take your politics to /pol/ i'm asking this question out of genuine curiousity.

>>9820023
Langston Hughes

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>>9820140
>If I tell you Pynchon I'll get jumped on by nerds so I'll just say [Pynchon]
I'ma not jump on you because I haven't read Morrison but watch it

>>9820151
>Is there any notable literature by a black author that doesn't have to do with race?

I think anyone who can read notices the implicit assumption there. Just take better care in how you word things lol.

>>9820151
The funniest novel I've read in a few years, The Sellout, is fucking reeking with racial critque. The Afro American literary scene has some real problems being original when it comes to allegory and underlying worldview. It is far easier to read post-colonial authors who can look back and be like, yeah, the whites were jerks, but man do we have problems now.

>>9820165
His implicit assumption is true, because Afro-American writers are probably 95% racialists.

>>9820165
For someone so passionately anti-prejudice you sure do assume a lot.

>>9820023
I dunno can you name any literature by white people that doesn't have to do with white people?

>>9820179
>because Afro-American writers are probably 95% racialists.

Because that was a signficant part of their history and many of them grew up in a time where systematic racism was still a thing?

People write about signficant events in their lives, how fucking shocking.

But anyway, American Blacks dont make up all of "Black literature" as alrady discussed in the thread there's more than enough African authors with their own thing going on.

>>9820186
The majority of white literature isn't about racial struggle.

>>9820212
With whites it's class struggle.

>>9820170
>The funniest novel I've read in a few years, The Sellout, is fucking reeking with racial critque.
The book is literally written as a racial critique
That's why I think books like Invisible Man and Go Tell it on the Mountain are superior novels by being both broader in scope and deeper in insight

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>>9820192
>Because that was a signficant part of their history etc
No excuse, pic related

When Marlon James comes out with his fantasy trilogy in 2018 about vikings fighting in Mali I will be thrilled, because he is actually an original author of genius, not another Colson Whitehead that subtly triggers the literary milieu with more slavery fan fiction.

>>9820186
I read alot of contemporary literature, and most "white" literature is at least required to use original themes and plot lines, not the huge fucking crutch of nominal and illusory systemic oppression as a backdrop to every popular work. Of course I mostly blame the publishing world of white publishers and leftist critics virtue signalling, I myself am NOT a racialist, so I am certain that other authors like James are being left in the dust because the narrative doesnt fit the stereotype of the black author writing panegyrics against "the man"

>>9820230
>segregation will heal the black race!
>white flight creates segregation around the country
>property values and schools collapse

It was nearly utopian, but at least he was sincere in his disgust with black culture. And his writings on a return to agriculture and community were at least against the grain.

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what's even worse than african racial "literature" is when whites and half breeds buy into it and prostrate themselves for racial penance
ooga booga kill whitey

>>9820229
A more important and consequential subject.

>>9820241
Personally, I dont care much for the "muh race, bad whitey" shit either, but whenever I hear someone just make the face value assumption that Black literature only centers around race that then it just comes off as mind-bogglingly stupid.

I can understand being ignorant, but why carry that headfirst when your only real experience is some American Black fiction, and at a distance? Just look up books from various authors you think would be interesting without all the hurr durr.

>>9820269
Two hundred years ago maybe. These days the idea of class, like race, is just another vehicle for victim culture.

>>9820241
That's a valid point, but you have to realize that it's a personal narrative with a shared setting.
Author D isn't going to keep his or her mouth shut about their experience just because authors A B and C already wrote something similar. They aren't telling stories to entertain a readership, they're personal narratives they have on their hearts. They can't just "write about something else" for the sake of literature.
In fact, a lot of black authors of that time, Baldwin, Ellison, and I think Zora got a lot of backlash from the black community because their books weren't "black enough" and the community felt they were underrepresented for the sake of literature. Thats why Baldwin moved to France. There is a very substantial pressure on black authors to write a certain way, same as the expectation for black musicians to play a certain way, but at this present point in time it probably is more American liberalism than it is black community inner pressures pushing for that narrative

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>>9820272
Because most people here are exposed to black literature in american, german and british highschools, and that means bigger thomas and implications. It probably also at different times meant frederick douglas, Olaudah Equiano, Beloved, etc, and never black authors writing black lit. Where is the black Thomas Hardy who is concerned about a man and a woman and suffering and only suffering?

However, in my defense I must say that I am a way bigger fan of African and West Indian /lit/. it just requires more research to find what is good. Actually, reading contemporary literature and non-american non-racial black literature is very similar, in that you dont have this impartial consideration of the centuries to guide you like muh classics

>>9820294
Neet meme

>>9820269
Class struggle and racial struggle are one in the same

T×b×h I would like to see a unified platform and struggle rather than the feudal fiefdoms that intersectionality has created

>>9820034
I wouldn't call Dumas black, although he has black ancestry. Ditto for Pushkin.

>>9820325
racial struggled shattered the class based left. Instead of unified movements for labour and life improvements, you have a million different identities that say "yeah mandatory minimum income is great but what about xes? We have been oppressed by the Ys for years, we should get more"

>>9820339
Well yeah that's what I'm getting at. Insisted of working to genuinely erase class and recognizing racial/sectarian/geographic differences as the divide-and-conquer tools porky has always used to rule the underclasses, we get identitarian groups hijacking leftist discourse to entrench these differences in return for a handful of band-aids that don't heal much

There's other things though that contributed to left sectarianism tho so personally I try to do less navel gazing over it and more actual talking to alienated people

>>9820140
Post these supposed "academic" papers you have seen.

>>9820486
Aigt here u go bruv
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>>9820080
Kek

Alexandre Dumas.

Looks like the definition of negritude (also known as niggerosity) is being stretched by the inclusion of quadroons like Pushkin and the like so why not throw in Montecristo for good measure too?

>>9820241
Would you say the Classics are beating a dead horse cause all they wrote about was stories about their Gods? Fuggin dummie

>>9820118
Apparently, she's a black lady Faulkner.

>>9820797
accurate

>>9820186
Most 'white literature' isn't about keeping a brother down, while too much 'black literature' is about the other part of the 'narrative'. Fucking awful word, I know.

>>9820029
>Pushkin
>black

Can you faggots stop doing this?

Someone being 1/8 black is not the same as being black. Africans are black. American's of African descent are actually almost all mixed. Literally something like 70% of the African American population has European admixture.

And something like 30% of them have over a quarter Euro admixture.

Even Obama isn't black. He's mulatto.

>>9820831
yeah if you go on youtube and watch black people doing those genetic tests it's almost always 20% scottish/irish ancestry

>>9820476
>porky
go back to leftypol

>>9820192
Opening your reply to a fairly reasonable post with a rhetorical question about "systematic racism"? You're insufferable.

>>9820927
Did you actually read the post or shit yourself over your trigger word?

>>9820337
>black ancestry
>not black
Hmmmm

>>9820831

Imagine being this dense.

>>9820789
are you pretending to be stupid?

>>9820337
don't whitewash dude. his grandma was black, he's black.

>>9820117
a brief history of seven killings is a great book but if you think it's got nothing to do with race you haven't read it

>>9820927
Systematic racism is real though

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>>9820337
>>9820831

>>9821806
The book is about the men who killed bob marley in general, the rise to power of josey wales in particular, with a setting of political strife in jamaica. when whites are portrayed in the novel they are CIA operatives or reporters who are obviously neo-colonialist, but not obviously racialist. And the lighter skin blacks in jamaica are obviously better class wise, but that is a minor point as bob marley is the hero and he is light as fuck.

race is incidental to the novel

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>>9820023

>>9820023

Well your question literally divides authors by their race so I'm not sure what kind of answer you're looking for here.

>>9820337
>I wouldn't call Dumas black, although he has black ancestry.
and dark skin and a fro. at least for pushkin you can argue that some artists only gave him the fro, but dumas lived into the age of photography ffs anon.

>>9820029
>>9820089
Pretty nice seeing Machado de Assis being recommended on this board, I get the impression he's not that famous worldwide.

>>9820831
>mulatto
Can you faggots stop doing this?

Mulatto is a term used to describe hybrid animals, and is considered degrading when applied to humans. Calling a person mulatto isn't the same thing as calling an animal mulatto. The offspring of a mule and a donkey is mulatto. The proper term for negroes of mixed race is "bi-" or "multiracial."

And something like 100% of negroes are offended by being called animals.

Even Obama isn't mulatto. He's multi-racial.

>>9822358
Us blacks just say "mixed", anything else is autistm

>>9821847
>to power of josey wales in particular, with a setting of political strife in jamaica. when whites are portrayed in the novel they are CIA operatives or reporters who are obviously neo-colonialist, but not obvious
What? You know Bob Marley survived the attempt on his life and went on to die of cancer because Rastas don't believe in amputation or some shit, right?

>>9822358
Shut up, nigger

>>9822363
I usually say "nignog" or "hey boy," anything else is SJW. But for the purpose of my post I had to fudge the facts.

>>9822370
Just dont clog up anymore college parking lots.

>>9822363
quadroon or octoroon acceptable?

>>9822375
>implying black people go to college to study, not to burn up those gibmedats and chill wit da homies (?)
They have a separate lot for professors to park, don't worry.

>>9822406
if you want to sound like some faggot playing an MMO sure

>>9822358
What's wrong with calling them by their caste? They're mulattos. Neither white nor black.

>>9822414
>caste

pajeet detected

>>9821836
Obv not

>>9820170
>is far easier to read post-colonial authors who can look back and be like, yeah, the whites were jerks, but man do we have problems now.
Examples?

>>9820476
>The individual classes are concrete forms and as such are unmoving
Wew lad...

>>9822366
you are right, and I know that, i just was spazzing.
"attempted to assassinate". I actually watched the marley doc on netflix after i read it which was great.

>>9822460
see
>>9820117

>>9820117
Is it worth reading if I don't care about rasta meme music Man?

>>9822492
Ok good I was worried for a moment. I thought it was the James Earl Jones Effect in action! Also, no idea how the greentext got in there. That happens all the time to me when I have neither copied nor pasted a thing.

>>9821806
There is a lot of race in it but I don't consider it annoying. It's fair.

>>9822586
Bob's not really even in the book and never mentioned by name

call of cthulhu

>>9820023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machado_de_Assis

>>9822595
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>>9820029
Well yeah Pushkin's great-grandpa was african but the man himself had pretty white-looking ass