How the fuck am I supposed to buy into the idea that pessimism and anti-natalism is anything more than a bitter ideology pushed by men who can't get laid?
I mean if Chad pushed these ideas I might but them, but look at the type of males who are pushing it hardest:
>Thomas Ligotti
>Michel Houellebecq
>Leopardi
>Schopenhauer
They are all ugly fucking dudes. Why should I take them seriously?
Honestly what an answer here.
>>9787158
Cioran is where ligotti steals from, and he was decent looking. Not handsome but he got laid for sure
>>9787158
Schopenhauer and Houellebecq got truckloads of pussy.
Not sure about the other two.
>>9787166
Schopenhauer didn't, remember the grape story?
Houellebecq boasts about visiting brothels etc, and sure he's had a wife and girlfriends, but 99% of guys who look like him are jerking their wieners in their mother's chateau right now.
>>9787158
Mitchell Heisman
This Guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_3Yn55_H4
Some guy you may have heard of called SCHOPENHAUER
The list goes on
>>9787174
Mitchell Heisman was NOT an anti-natalist.
His own suicide was, as he admitted, an experiment in existential nihilism. Nothing less or more.
>>9787178
Still he said everything humanity accomplished was stupid
>>9787158
Houellebecq is an antinatalist tho?
>>9787158
Shouldn't there ugliness reinforce the argument? Optimism might be easier if people weren't born ugly, born mentally/physically disabled, or just born dead.
Why would an author's good lucks increase the logic behind the argument for pessimism about reality?
>>9787211
Yes
"How curious to procreate when one doesn't even enjoy life"
From one of his books.
Sure is Friday in here.
>>9787158
you don't
i unironically choose my books depending on how aesthetic the authors are
the exception is for philosophy, because they are actually working on stuff instead of expressing feels
>>9787171
The grape story was when Schops was an old man. When he was young he got plenty, even had a secret baby mama.
Houellebecq might look like a goblin but he's also a public intellectual/artist which will get you plenty.
>>9787289
I think you'll have to do better than one brief musing. All we know is he's reflecting on only the apparent absurdity of it, not that he's come to the conclusion its a moral duty not to do so. I much suspect he's too nihilistic to espouse that position.