Why does this nigga right here not make an sense to me? I don't

>>9755734
its just post-lutheran german justifications of war mongering, whats not to get?

>>9755741
Yeah but is this "Diotima" he speaks of just some camwhore slut?

Faust II is on a completely different level than Faust I - when he wrote I Goethe was relatively young. He wrote II for the rest of his life and made it as dense as possible with as many references as possible. There's a reason German highschool usually only reads Faust I.

Are you reading Holderlin in translation?

>>9755755
Yeah, in English. The probllem I have is understanding shit like this:

"With my own kind I lived and could grow for a day that was fleeting,
One by one they depart, gone from me into their sleep,
Yet you sleepers within me are wakeful, and in related
Soul an image of each, fugitive, lingers and rests.
And more living there you live on where the god-given spirit's
Joy rejuvenates all, all who have aged and the dead."

Maybe I'm just not familiar enough with reading poetry. It just sounds so ambiguous and aethereal and metaphorical (but then Heidegger argues against such "metaphysical" interpretation of poetry, using Holderlin as an example). At least Rimbaud, Goethe, or Lermontov I can understand.

>>9755753
Probably the 5th century BC philosopher..

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>>9755741
>Hölderlin
>justifications of war mongering
That simplification made me cringe.

>>9755783
I don't know the context and have never read him before but it seems fairly straightforward

>>9755734
read his Hyperion his ideas are pretty much all there (Diotima is a girl from the book, pretty much the incarnation of beauty/love), and he is realy not that hard to get (only ever read him in german tho)
most of his themes are
>disenchantment of the world/nature - death of the gods/the divine that gave nature it's soul
>conflict between solitude/nature and societ/social life
>Fate (in the greek sense)
>Home/Fatherland romantic