Has anyone here even read "Das Nibelungenlied". It

>>9738695
I've read it. My mother-tongue is Dutch and I can speak German, so reading the original isn't difficult. (e.g. 'Do wuohs in Niderlanden... eins edlen küniges kint, de vater der hiez Sigemunt, sîn mouter Sigelint' can easily be understood be any native speaker).

I agree that it's a fundamental text in the Germanic literary culture, but let's not overstate its significance.

>>9738695
Well I listen to Wagner I guess.

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>>9738695
Yes, I did some years ago. It's awesome but at least for me the end "Trial" being humans when a lot of awesome shit has been going on it's disappointing. Also the defeating of the gods just by breaking the spear. I know there is a philosophical message in there and mythological reasons but it didn't felt right.

>>9738710
You should propably know the tale before being able to appreaciate and listen to Der Ring der Nibelungen perhaps.
>>9738709
It is from the 12th century. While the old version is understandable it is also difficult at times.
Reading a modern version should be totally acceptable.
>>9738717
>I know there is a philosophical message
It is littered with meaning.

>>9738695
Sounds like someone just rolled Siegfried in the gacha lmao

>>9738734
Bitch I've been listening and appreciating the Ring for years.
Unfortunately although I'm familiar enough with Wagner's librettos to understand his drama, my german is not good enough to read something like the Nibelungenlied. I should learn german, really.

>>9738786
>I should learn german, really.
translation?
>inb4

>>9738695
haven't read it, but i've read The Volsung Saga.

>>9739012
>The Volsung Saga
If I ever get into Icelandic literature I might pick it up but till then...

I read it last month. It was awesome.

>>9738695
It was boring. Even Goethe thought it was mediocre.

>>9738786
>>9738813
>translation?
They're all translations since it's written in Middle High German. Not widely spoken in present day Germany.

>>9739795
Well Goethe was a Pseud then.

Can I read it without having read anything specific before? It's been on my to read list for ages and every time I go to the bookstore I play with the thought of buying it. I have a shit ton to read anyway, I'm currently still busy with the Greeks and want to transition into continuing with the Romans. Should I wait until I arrive at the medieval period or just read it already?

My German is pretty poor and is restricted to extremely proper and simple sentences. Reading a translation of poetry is never a good idea, also.
I understand >>9738709 but that is just too easy. I can understand simple sentences in Anglo-Saxon too, but reading a whole text is a different story.

I know the essential story however through my Dutch grandparents, and it was refreshed in my memory by Der Ring der Nibelungen, and genre fiction.
>>9741177
I suppose it's sort of like reading the Theogony. A bit of background would help, but because it's a fundamental text, it's far from necessary.

>>9738709
>Da war in Netherlanden... eines edlen koeniges Kind, des Vater der hiess Sigmund, sein Mutter Siglind.
>In the low lands there was a noble [and] royal child, the father of Sigmund, his mother Siglind.
How bad are my translations?

It's pretty epic.

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I picked it up from the library once based on the cover without knowing what it was; i read a little part of the beginning and the introduction and decided it wasn't worth continuing.

>>9738717
>Yes, I did some years ago. It's awesome but at least for me the end "Trial" being humans when a lot of awesome shit has been going on it's disappointing. Also the defeating of the gods just by breaking the spear. I know there is a philosophical message in there and mythological reasons but it didn't felt right.
what the fuck, this wasn't in what I read

Brunhilde...