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>to smart to understand philosophical idealism I just don't

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>to smart to understand philosophical idealism

I just don't get it. No matter how many idealist thinkers I read I simply either

- don't get it, or
- can only understand it if rationalize it through a materialist framework.

e.g. When I [tried to] read Hegel what I got out of it didn't sound much different from Marx's materialist dialectics. Another example is Schophenhauer whose WWR just reads like a proto-version of Dawkins Selfish Gene theory.
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Idealism is materialism because it uses language which is material.
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>>9702293
If you'd like a starting point for idealism, read Berkeley's Principles of Human Knowledge. It's really readable, and the form of idealism he espouses is pretty clear and plain-spoken.

If Berkeley still seems hard to get, it may help to steep yourself in early modern epistemology via the Meditations and Locke's Essay, both of which I think can be read pretty much as an entry point.
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>>9702303
language is not material, it's made of waves
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>>9702350
Everything is made of waves, so what is your point?
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>>9702358
waves are spooky and not material
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>>9702293
Start with the Holy Qur'an.
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>>9702293
start with the mental experience
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>>9702407
This sounds materialist to me.
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>materialism
There's your problem right there
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What the fuck even is materialism? Have you ever seen a material? No bitch, you only see colors, hence material is a spook
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>>9702303
More thought than language, honestly.
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>>9702293
Just because you don't understand something it doesn't mean you're stupid. It could be very well the case that what you are reading doesn't actually make sense or make any point at all, and hides it behind big boy words.
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>>9702614
But ultimately language is used to express that thought.
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>>9702614
What is a thought?
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