Have you ever come across a realization in philosophy that you

>>9688319
Schopenhauer's view on women
Hitler's view on Jews
McDonald's view on cultural marxism
Peterson's views on trannies
Weininger's view on sexuality
The Bell Curve on inherent superiority

All contributed to making me redpilled

>>9688327
is this the new "my diary desu"?

Being a free producer is the human Gattungswesen.
Human behaviour is largely determined by the production relations.

>Schopenhauer
Happiness is a negative while suffering is a positive mode of existence

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>>9688331
No it's just one dedicated /pol/ dancer

>>9688344
>just one
>conveniently failing to acknowledge that we elected Trump, almost got Le Pen elected, forced Brexit and are now surging as a movement for the emancipation of the nation of Kekistan
Nice try

>>9688351

Right, because everyone who voted for those two to be in power has read all that.

Nationalism is for pussies assimilating their identity and existence for the absence of becoming self-actualized.

>>9688351
>we got trump elected
No Hillary did that
>almost Le Pen
Did you almost lose your virginity?
>brexit
The socialist Jeremy Corbyn did more for that than /pol/

>>9688319
That is the only proper way to learn philosophy. Everything else is monkey bussiness

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>>9688351
I just want you to know that if you weren't LARPing as a kekistani that I would.

>>9688319
Parmenides's ontology and his sayings on being and non-being provided me with the only sensible answer to the "how does something come from nothing" question and I am now convinced of the incoherence of any notion of Nothing.

Plato's discussion on the truth value of opinions. It's obvious to anyone who thinks about it, I know, but so many people don't understand the relationship between knowledge and opinion that it feels revelatory.

Aristotle's principle of non-contradiction and his inductive arguments for it convinced me that everything Heraclitus and Protagoras said are wrong. I cannot seriously entertain any ontological relativism after this.

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Process philosophy, pragmaticism, language-games, Heidegger on onto-theology and hermeneutics, the huge mess that are the Linguistic Turn & semiology, Girard & Agamben on the sacred and the origin of kings, the state of exception, Debord & Baudrillard on media and terrorism, the sign-value, Foucault on biopolitics and discussing what power actually might be at long last, Andy Clark's extended mind theory, etc.

>>9688409
Can you expand on these three ideas?

>>9688319
Plato's view and description of democracy.

>>9688319
Pic related on the eternal recurrence as an existential concept

>>9689127
isn't it a psychological concept? or is that what you mean

>>9688899
Parmenides's ontology can be summed up as nothing comes from nothing. So the consequence of this is that there was always something, that change is impossible, and that since there is no becoming from nothing to something, generation and destruction from and to no longer existing things is impossible. Non-being cannot be conceptualized nor can it be articulated through language, which is why we run into so much trouble when trying to discuss "Nothing". The only way you may be able to skirt this is through a Platonic understanding of Nothing as "what is different from x". Upon some reflection this strikes me as the best, if somewhat counter-intuitive, way to understand Nothing and problems of becoming.

Plato goes into a kind of thought experiment in Meno in which he brings up a case where a group is traveling down a road to some settlement and upon coming to a fork in the road must decide which direction is the proper way to the settlement. Nobody has any knowledge of the correct direction, but if someone picks out the right fork, it is still truth without the accompanying knowledge. Opinions have truth values and occupy a middle ground between knowledge and ignorance, which is something all too readily glossed over in pop culture when you get memed with "it's just ur opinion maaan".

Aristotle seeks to save rational discourse from the jaws of relativists by rightly pointing out that something cannot host contradictory properties or essential natures at the same time. Protagoras errs in saying that "man is the measure of all things" because one could just as easily assert the opposite and, by his philosophy, be correct. This completely ruins any attempt to engage in a science of rational discourse or dialectics. Similarly, Heraclitus's ontology of a world in pure becoming, which does not allow men to make unqualified judgements that extend beyond the demonstration of deductive truths. Non-contradiction can thus be justified inductively. Yes, it's an appeal to the sensible faculties of man, but it is also an appeal to man's reason and his ability to discern and differentiate truth and falsity.

>>9689226
I like your post.

>>9689194
It's actually logical; if the mathematical possibility of the universe recreating in a Self same state is greater than zero then it will do so an infinite number of times hence eternal recurrence. This was a Newtonian idea I think.

>>9690762
>it's a 15 yo undergrad has faith in math realism episode

time to kill your self

>>9689226
>>Aristotle seeks to save rational discourse from the jaws of relativists by rightly pointing out that something cannot host contradictory properties or essential natures at the same time
yes humans crave their little fantasy of non-contradiction tacked onto what they experience through the 5 senses, as if they saw at least one contradiction or one negation in their life through the 5 senses....

hahahhahahahahahahaha

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>>9689226
>Parmenides's ontology can be summed up as nothing comes from nothing. So the consequence of this is that there was always something, that change is impossible

I don't understand how you get to the conclusion that change is therefore impossible.

If you concede that nothing comes from nothing so therefore there always must have been something surely you can still say that something can turn into something else?

Can we not have being AND becoming, like the Aristotelian notion of the unmoved mover?

>>9688327
>Schopenhauer's view on women
Correct for the most part. There is more to women, though- especially if they are submissive.
>Hitler's view on Jews
Jews are worse than that. I've never heard of Hitler speaking about Blood Libel.
>McDonald's view on cultural marxism
Pretty good.
>Peterson's views on trannies
His views on identity.
>Weininger's view on sexuality
Haven't read.
>The Bell Curve on inherent superiority
Compare masses, good goy. Jews pick a select group from amongst themselves and put that on the bell curve to showcase supremacy.
I think that Swiss bankers (non-jewish) are the only group that can represent 'white people', all else is rubbish.
Remove the casteless, remove the favela, remove the hasidic jew, you get a different mass.

As for this thread, Michael E Jones has the perfect view on the Jewish question.
Stick with Logos, fellow goyim.

>>9688327
>Weininger's views on sexuality

He says that everyone is sexually amorphous though, and he's just describing Platonic types. That means that you have a part in you that is a woman, and she has a part that is male:

>We assign sex to human beings from their birth on one character only, and so come to add contradictory ideas to our conceptions. Such a course is illogical.

>There is a pitiful monotony in the fashion according to which, on such occasions, “men” and “women” have been treated as if, like red and white balls, they were alike in all respects save colour. In no case has the discussion been confined to an individual case, and as everyone had different individuals in their mind, a real agreement was impossible. As people meant different things by the same words, there was a complete disharmony between language and ideas.

Sounds a lot like something an SJW would say

>>9690885
You're supposed to get to this conclusion by recognizing that what occurs in becoming (generation/destruction) is the destruction of what-is and then generation from that-which-is-not, which takes us right back to a cosmogony in which something emerges from nothing. Eliminating becoming and imposing static unchanging Being on the world solves this.

>>9690802
Demonstration does not begin with demonstration, which is why the principle has to be justified inductively. It's a metaphysical claim, but I find it no less egregious than anything the pluralists said. You cannot even begin to meaningfully discuss any philosophy or any subject at all without accepting the principle. I'd say it's even more fundamental than "cogito ergo sum"

>>9688319
Nihilism has fucked up everything in my life desu
So that

>>9688319
I find stoic and aristotelic thought fitting real life. What's the point of philosophy if not taking it seriously?

>>9691133
Then get right with the Lord then faggot.

>>9688409
>>9689226
You need to read Heidegger's essay "What is Metaphysics?"

The Nothing is necessary for the existence of Being.

>>9691263
or just intro to Hegel's logic or spirit.
or some ancient greek jerker who Hegel cites for his idea.

>>9691263
>The Nothing is necessary for the existence of Being.

Being is necessary for the existence of being.

>>9688319
At most I would find a philosophy practical and helpful in some kind of way.

The most convincing 'truths' are my personal ones. Like, 'I feel bad', or 'I feel good'. Or even 'I think I feel good.'

I can't find much to oppose those statements, because there are subjective.

>>9688319
I never read Karl Popper: The post

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>>9688319
Life has negative value

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>>9688319
my pre med classes, especially orgo chem, really cemented my belief in determinism

>>9691133
>letting a concept mess with your head that much
You aren't a nihilist at heart.

>>9688319
Your choice is the only thing that's real. You exist to manage your will. Nothing else exists. The capacity to make good decisions is intrinsic to the decision itself. You don't even need to know what the box of numbers is. There is literally nothing else on this planet. There's no other position that can actually free you. It's quite relieving, really, and its reality could give less of a fuck abut your adherence for all times.

>>9693877
top red pill tbth

>>9688371
You a dumb pussy nigga, nationalism is about being part of something much bigger than yourself and being proud of where you're from.

>>9688319
Procreation is immoral.
Ontic structural realism.

>>9693396
learning biopsychology did that for me

>>9688458
Continental scum

>>9693914
Rofl that's some immortality project you've got going there

>>9689226
>Aristotle seeks to save rational discourse from the jaws of relativists by rightly pointing out that something cannot host contradictory properties or essential natures at the same time.
Why not? What about the catuskoti?

>Protagoras errs in saying that "man is the measure of all things" because one could just as easily assert the opposite and, by his philosophy, be correct.
So? At such extremes there really wouldn't be a distinction.

>>9691036
Lol mate read some Heidegger. You're stuck in metaphysics.

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>>9688319
This desu

>>9693914
>being part of something much bigger than yourself
So you find more allegiance to imaginary borders than humanity in general? Public School really did a number on you.

>being proud of where you're from.
Ah yes, I am so proud that the cosmic dice chose to squirt me out here and now instead of any other time and place. Fuck everyone else who isn't from where I am from.

>>9688319
That it is fundamentally unknowable if you are the only cognisant being and no amount of science or philosophy can resolve this question. When I realised this I finally understood "Cogito, ergo sum" and Wittgenstein's assertion that all philosophy is semantics.

>>9695193
Doesn't matter, if everything is the same then nothing really repeats itself, it's just one moment constantly existing.
That being said, I already despair at the thought that my life is eternal and death is an illusion, so I guess I would gnash my teeth.

>>9695954
>everything is the same

That's not what Nietzsche is saying though. If you wouldn't want to live your life in an eternal recurrence, you have to make it so that you would. He's taking eternity from Christianity and Plato and relocating it to actual, bodily existence, so that we live for now and not for some promise awaiting us after death. This is the "Greatest Weight," which we all bear.

>>9695987
Exactly, we live for right now, and eternal recurrence means you relive the same life over and over again, which when you look at it is the same as only living once. If death is non-existence, then death cannot be experienced. You can experience the process of dying, but as soon as you are dead there is no more to experience. So in this sense the subjective experience of the time passing between your birth and death is an eternity to your subjective experience. It repeats indefinitely while not actually repeating at all.

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Have you ever come across a work of art that you would say has been actualy, unironically completely beautiful, that has been incorporated fully into the way you view the world, and that hasn't been just another fun little painting to make the world seem more interesting for the time being? what was it? or have they all just been fun little artworks that you don't actually take all that seriously? "beauty is subjective" doesn't count

>>9696016
You're not getting it. We can follow the logic to its conclusion and see what emerges, but it's not a cosmological theory. The question itself is supposed to bear down on your actions so that you may rethink how you want to live your life.

>>9696028
I know what the theory means, but I can't take it seriously because it's bullshit.

>>9690791
>TFW this was me before receiving math degree

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>>9691263
>

>>9688327
>The Bell Curve
>What is the flynn effect?

>>9694988
>Lol mate read some Heidegger
>You're stuck in metaphysics.
lol heidegger is the swamp of metaphysics

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>>9696034
It's bullshit because you're a sour positivist desu

>>9696094
You've never read Heidegger

>>9694344
>Why not? What about the catuskoti?

Logic is not necessarily ontology, but it must be grounded in some assumptions to proceed. I can come up with any inane logic that would be valid under my own system, but that doesn't make it sound.

>So? At such extremes there really wouldn't be a distinction.

The problem is it negates itself through its being the case, a contradiction that, if it were true, would pose insurmountable problems for our ability to communicate about anything at all. The dispute you raise isn't meaningful, nor is my reply, because not only is there no real fact of the matter, but any attempt at establishing a fact is inconceivable. How do you make a judgement, under a pluralist scheme, as to whether Protagoras or Heraclitus is correct if they defeat themselves?

>>9688339
This. It haunts me every day. My existence is very positive.

>>9696028
>rethink how you want to live your life

I participate in life but I do not own life. If I would own it I would forbid it to allow pain, suffering, illness, aging, insanity etc. This is why I never would want to relive life because it neves has been my own.

>>9695987
>>9696016
>being this autistic

>>9696177
What does this pic mean

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>>9696083
>What is the flynn effect?

>>9693851
Is not like I read what it means and then went "omg everything sucks now"
I mean it in the sense that I don't find a good reason to do anything but wake up and just getting up to shit and eat
I still go and try to do the most productive thing possible, being at this moment stuying to get at college but I really don't see the point, there is no objective, I need something that shines so much that it makes me blind so I can't see and feel all the horrible and painful and disgusting things in life while trying to reach it, but I just can't find it. It seems like it is more of "letting it find you" situation. When I was younger I used to feel that way about art in general, specially music, but now is not the same. Is like when someone shows you the trick of a magician, there is no magic anymore.
>>9691256
lol

>>9688319
I just want to say that Hegel was an idiot, that's all

>>9698349
t. brainlet

>>9696034
Im glad im not the only one who saw through the bullshit and saw the what youre talking about.
Nothing terrifies me more than death being an illusion. Basically all reincarnation, eternal recurance and materialism boils down to the same ontological conclusion.

>>9691036
It might be 'that-which-is-not' in this world but it might be 'what-is' of another world...

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>>9693914
>>You a dumb pussy nigga, nationalism is about being part of something much bigger than yourself and being proud of where you're from.
yeah this is what liberals claim, you know the liberals who created nations

>>9696016
>>Exactly, we live for right now, and eternal recurrence means you relive the same life over and over again, which when you look at it is the same as only living once.
this is false, the point is too live the exact same life over and over and knowing it which makes you sad then bored

I know Kant has been called a murderer of philosophy, but I think even if in terms that were too technical and often misunderstood he did a lot of things right.

I think he was able to clearly say what we already felt, the existence of the Noumenon and Phenomena, and how the mind will always try to go over his limits and wander into the unknown and maybe never find answers and that's okay.

>>9698447
>stirnerfag calling people liberals

>>9696513
Oh, you want to avoid suffering... Yeah, Fritz isn't for you buddy.

>>9688319
Berkeley's metaphysics and argument for God.

https://youtu.be/KfAdFKJfHZ4

>>9700017
He's the one to entertain the masses.

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tiqqun

>>9700074
>to be is to be perceived or to perceive
>but my plant died when I was on vacation
>oh right God was watching it
nice proof

>>9688327
Wow so this is the power of communists humor, damn...

>>9696444
>would pose insurmountable problems for our ability to communicate about anything at all.
What problems? Why would it be a problem?

>The dispute you raise isn't meaningful, nor is my reply
Meaningful how, to whom? What do you mean by "meaning"?

Popper's falsifiability and its implications for what constitutes real knowledge

>>9701364
except to see me on the next notch the spiral :~)

>>9698349
I've not seen a single serious argument as to the case otherwise.

All of them resemble this. >>9698366

>>9688327

my nigga

>>9688319
Cogito ergo sum seems like a tenable supposition.

>>9701657
>What problems? What would be the problem?

Give me one example of something in nature that is self-identical and undivided yet is in two contrary states at once. You can't because it's not possible.

>Meaningful how, to whom? What do you mean by "meaning"?

It is meaningful to anyone trying to give an account of the world. In Aristotelian terms, it is a pre-suppository principle than allows us to discern between truth and falsehood, or even to come within measure of these things (as they must exist in order to approach them). Without this, any statement about how the world is or about objects in the world or the truth value of anything at all is vacuous, for the reasons stated above.

>>9701364
You misunderstand.

My plant was neither dead nor alive when I was on holiday because nothing exists independent of perception.

But Berkeley's argument is more to do with the question of stability of perception.

>>9688339
surely you could free yourself from this if you desired nothing?

>>9702213
Maybe for a scientific account. The principle of non-contradiction is one of the worst metaphysical assumptions you can buy. Contradiction is actually the mark of truth mate.

>>9702734
>Contradiction is actually the mark of truth mate.

Care to explain why you think so? What is so wrong about acknowledging that actualities are prior to and give rise to potentialities?

>>9693914
actually nationalism is 1) taking credit for things you had no part in and 2) means of controlling people by insisting they're part of something bigger

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that nothing exists in itself.

>>9688327
>Weininger's view on sexuality
Just read the wikipedia on this guy. Wow. Probably an interesting read. Not sure I can agree with the idea that intelligence is universal. Yes, truly intelligent people can succeed in whatever field they want, but they will be more economical with their will power in one field or another

Nietzsche's slave morality idea was exactly how I perceived Christianity when I read it.
I also entirely agree with the idea of the ubermensch and strive to be it.

Mark Twain believed that men could not act without the ego first being satisfied - I agree with that. Greed is inherent and unavoidable. When you give a homeless person a coin its to help your own mind to be happy first, not the homeless guy.

Camus' detachment from morality and emotional causation is extremely attractive. When something goes wrong now - i no longer fret as quickly or severely as I used to. I simply accept the situation and move to correct it.

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>>9704057
> actually nationalism is
> 1) taking credit for things you had no part in
No. True nationalism is being truly grateful for the gifts your ancestors have left you. Not everyone is so fortunate. Man starts with nothing, so there is no need to lament others having more than you. In a different time, your people had nothing at all.
> 2) means of controlling people by insisting they're part of something bigger
Yes. Thats the point. Its useful. Would you rather their allegiance be to religion? A particular ideology? When a person is dedicated to their country, he understands the gifts it has given and he opts to pay them back.

Jung's archetypes
Stirner (to some extent)
Mishima's aesthetique
>>9701836
It's not like you gave any serious argument on your side either tho

deleuze's book on spinoza fucked me up in a way that still fucks with me each day. also some sections of 1000 plateaus, but i wont pretend to understand D&G's collaborations in their full complexity

>>9704124
>True nationalism is being truly grateful for the gifts your ancestors have left you.

that's not even related to nationalism because your "ancestors" aren't tied to a nation

if anything that's just being proud of what humanity has achieved

>Would you rather their allegiance be to religion?

nationalism is like modern religion in the sense that they both center around greater meaning, but nationalism has an additional dimension, ie this:

>1) taking credit for things you had no part in

people should to be tied to their ambitions and priorities in life

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>>9696017
I was once moved to tears by an abstract painting when I was in a museum around age 17.
I cannot remember the painter's name, but it was a show based out of an exhibit in LA.

The painting itself was a black background covered in white scratches, some of them straight, some of them curved.
There were even 2 others of the same make, so it was a series of 3.

Somehow only one of them really got to me. It just made me feel such genuine sadness I had to hide in the bathroom.

“Why should I fear death?
If I am, then death is not.
If Death is, then I am not.
Why should I fear that which can only exist when I do not?"

This quote by Epicurus had quite an impact on me and served as a mantra to repeat and reassure myself. Unfortunately (or is it?) this is no longer true. I don't want to stop being.

>>9688319

Dialectics.

>>9688409

how does it feel to have done a lot of thinking to agree with plebes

>>9698489

the noumenon is an abstraction of human reason, is utterly empty of content, and is completely comprehensible as such

>>9688319
Schopenhauer on Suffering.

kek

I remember being seven and laying by the pool. I would press my fingers against my closed eyes until I saw those weird lights we see when we do that. Then I came to the realization that was to my young self DUDE WOAH: "when we die we feel the same as we did before we were born".

>>9704011
Not really sure what you're trying to say as I just jumped into the discussion. But I would ask you instead: how do you conceive of truth? You speak of truth and falsehood as two absolutes, but is there not plenty of room in between them?

Truth, or aletheia, is a phenomenon, something that occurs and unfolds itself; it is an unconcealment, but as Heraclitus tells us, every unconcealment is also a concealment. This is where we find the contradictory and chiastic quality of truth: it both reveals something to us and hides something from us.

>>9705442
>You speak of truth and falsehood as two absolutes, but is there not plenty of room in between them?

There is. It's called opinion, of which there can be both true or false, depending on the proposition and its relation to states of affairs as they actually are. Ambiguity is allowed, such as in the case where someone might call a man "not-man". But this is in name, while we are talking of fact.

>Truth, or aletheia, is a phenomenon, something that occurs and unfolds itself; it is an unconcealment, but as Heraclitus tells us, every unconcealment is also a concealment. This is where we find the contradictory and chiastic quality of truth: it both reveals something to us and hides something from us.

Sounds like an almost mythic conception of truth, one that I find to be completely wrongheaded. To assert that it is possible for the same thing to be and not to be is to assert the impossible. If all contradictories are true of the same subject at the same time, then all things are one. If it is possible to affirm and deny anything of anything, then a ship and a horse are the same. Every affirmation and negation can be predicated of a subject indifferently. Without truth and falsehood as absolutes, you will spiral into an endless morass of contradictions that you cannot escape.

>>9688340
I like this image, can I save it?

ITT: cognitive relativism.

>>9695209
The cosmic dice may have placed you, but your parents and ancestors collective efforts received you and shaped both your experiences and opportunities. It's not a matter of bragging over fortune, but instead seeking to preserve the circumstances you were born into if you considered them favorable.

That said, you should learn to separate "love of self" from "hatred of other."

>>9690929
no he describes a sexuality spectrum and places people within that spectrum (and then discusses where there ideal mate exists on that spectrum)

he also talks at length about the immutable differences between man (even the most womanly man) and woman (even the most manly woman)

have you read weininger? hes a sod

>>9695193
that awful imessage bubble and 9th grade essay questions tacked to the bottom....

jesus there has to be a better image with the quote right? even the FN is low res and poorly "magic wanded" from his original background

great quote tho

>>9705506
>muh metaphysics

Got anything else to say other than the tired bunk that has plagued philosophy for centuries?

What if I've got $3 in my pocket and I callyself poor? Is that statement untrue, or incorrect? Metaphysics has understood truth as veritas, correct representation: if something doesn't appear to be the case it cannot be so. Aletheia was the way that the ancient Greeks understood truth, literally against forgetting--likewise as "unconcealment." There's nothing "mythic" about it really, for what does science do but reveal the possibilities of nature? We have been to and seen the surface of the moon, but who now looks up at night and wonders what it is? If I were to say to you that it were divine, you would laugh at me, for it couldn't be verified, but only because that kind of truth is inaccessible to you. Don't forget that "mythos" once meant truth.

>>9706665
Haha, I meant: what if I call myself wealthy?

>>9706665
>>9707576
>what if I call myself wealthy?

Depends on the facts. Truth corresponds to things as they actually are. Does your statement encompass only the three dollars in your pocket or your financial situation as a whole? You could find recourse in a Sorites paradox and say that we can't know what the boundary between wealth and not-wealth is. I would argue that there is a fact of the matter as to whether you are or are not wealthy.

>If I were to say to you that it were divine, you would laugh at me, for it couldn't be verified, but only because that kind of truth is inaccessible to you. Don't forget that "mythos" once meant truth.

I am not a verificationist. I think we can speak about things we do not have empirical access to. You are either right or wrong and I am hard pressed to find where and in what manner exactly you disagree with me.

>>9704149
which one, anon?

>>9695193
But wouldn't it be better to just be a chronic masturbator and do heroin until you die if your life repeated itself endlessly?

>>9695954
>I already despair at the thought that my life is eternal and death is an illusion

I just wanted to try to give you a bit of hope and courage, anon. If life is as such, we are going to deal with it fine. What's the worst that could happen? One can only suffer for so long.

>>9688458
not that guy, but what's wrong with continental philosophy apart from most PoMo professors being annoying SJW types

>>9688376
tbf /pol/ is pretty popular nowadays.

>>9688319
>The falseness of a judgment is for us not necessarily an objection to a judgment; in this respect our new language may sound strangest. The question is to what extent it is life-promoting, life-serving, species-preserving, perhaps even species-cultivating, and we are fundamentally inclined to claim that the falsest judgments (which include the synthetic judgments a priori) are the most indispensable for us, that without accepting the fictions of logic, without measuring reality against the purely invented world of the unconditional and self-identical, without a constant falsification of the world by means of numbers, man could not live—that renouncing false judgments would mean renouncing life and a denial of life. To recognize untruth as a condition of life: that certainly means resisting accustomed value feelings in a dangerous way; and a philosophy that risks this would by that token alone place itself beyond good and evil.

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>>9688351
>we elected Trump, almost got Le Pen elected, forced Brexit

>>9688319
Jung's concept of archetypes changed my view of life completely, like 100%. I realize now that a lot of it came from plato's theory of forms, but still, it's essentially the base language of life, human and animal, below that of spoken words.

>>9709558
>t. peterson fanboi

>>9709522
Christ Nietzsche was retarded. Is that the drivel that Peterson goes on and on about with truth needing to be married to the good, or useful?

Trash.

>>9709512
No it isnt

Its a board on 4chan

Your scope is all fucked up

>>9709564
I only found out who peterson was long after I read Jung. He doesn't really give justice to the idea. Never heard him mention anima/animus

>>9709629
>Never heard him mention anima/animus

that's because it would go against his general transbashing shtick which is main appeal to the people who follow him

>>9693396
hurrrrrrrrrrr. Newfag so can't tell if this is some sort of meme, but seriously amazing how many onotological retards exist in academia, believing in primitive shit like determinism.

>>9709641
just because it's possible to identify with both the anima and the animus doesn't mean it's healthy to do so. Like I said, he's not the best, and certainly not someone I would call a "philosopher" by any extent, but he's definitely right to call out abhorrent garbage like postmodernism and acceptance of transsexuals

>>9709641
jung iirc specifically discusses homosexuality as an unhealthy identification with the opposite anima/animus identifier.

>>9709582
I interpret it more as a rejection of despair. Even if human existence is tragic and pointless (Schopenhauer), it's impossible to live with that belief.