I believe Nietzsche was correct about Judaism, Christianity and

there's nothing to reconcile, slave morality is for the slaves, master morality is for the ruling class, it's perfectly normal and natural to have both

>>9651624
"master morality" is a code word for being a little bitch that doesn't want to play by the rules. Nietzsche was huge faggot in that regard. He was a weak willed man with no redeeming qualities. Somebody so autistic he resented the fact that he was a German and the son of a priest. I mean he ate so much fruit he shat himself and went mad over looking at a fucking horse.

>>9651640
>>9651640
>"master morality" is a code word for being a little bitch that doesn't want to play by the rules.

you're a pleb and that's exactly what plebs are supposed to say...oh it's not fair, trump didn't play by the rules, he went outside of the standard political system, oh clinton is so corrupt it's not fair, oh bill gates he's so mean to linux it's not fair, oh steve jobs he's such a dick he like stole the idea of the mouse from some suits at xerox, not fair at all!!!!1one

stay mad, nerd

>>9651624
This.
Nietzsche already did the reconciling: "as though a woman without piety would not be something perfectly obnoxious or ludicrous to a profound and godless man". Slave morality is fine for slaves. Religion is only a problem when it extends to the point of preventing the emergence of masters.

>>9651611
>Is there any reconciling these two views?
Nietzsche himself saw both sides of the story. It wasn't just entirely criticism of the church. He lauded the church and priests for cultivating the sensibilities of Europe etc. Keep reading more Nietzsche, he knew exactly what you are seeing right now. It's just that the popular view we have of Nietzsche has just fallen out of balance that we think he didn't realize the benefits of it. It's all there in his works. Keep reading.

>>9651640
>It is not surprising that the lambs should bear a grudge against the great birds of prey, but that is no reason for blaming the great birds of prey for taking the little lambs. And when the lambs say among themselves, "These birds of prey are evil, and he who least resembles a bird of prey, who is rather its opposite, a lamb,—should he not be good?" then there is nothing to carp with in this ideal's establishment, though the birds of prey may regard it a little mockingly, and maybe say to themselves, "We bear no grudge against them, these good lambs, we even love them: nothing is tastier than a tender lamb

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>>9651654
I've honestly thought about joining the church, because I feel in the modern world it would be the best place to go for people who want more from their life than netflix and sofa and seek more fulfillment.

Lacking money and aristocratic circles, is this the best I can hope for? I can't help but think of N-man's critique, though. But then, on the other hand, there were many christians who would be classed as those with aristocratic souls.

>>9651676
>implying the church pew isn't just the antique version of netflix and sofa

the fact that you post cartoon avatars shows what a worthless piece of shit you are so what you do with your life is completely irrelevant to anyone

>>9651676
>to go for people who want more from their life than netflix and sofa and seek more fulfillment.
well those people make children or try to alleviate ''suffering'' by trying to be nice to people and ''caring'' for minorities

>>9651611
>Is there any reconciling these two views?
I'm pretty sure that was the whole point and you should read Hegel and dialectics maybe.

>>9651692
Make children you say?

>>9651663
All that anthropomorphic drivel. I am shocked by Nietzsche's enduring popularity.

>>9651711
>brought down the Roman Empire
>gave rise to the HRE, the ascendency of all European nations, etc.
Unless you're Italian your nationalism cannot be reconciled with your neopaganism. Europe would be like Afghanistan without the Christian church. The Christian church basically turned all the undermenschen into a fighting force for the aristocracy. Anyway today it is pretty much worthless but revisionist history is petty anon come on.

>>9651714
yes, that was actually just furry fanfic about lambs and eagles, there was no other point

>>9651723
Tribal Europe was best europe, the fact is that ancient pre-historic europeans had larger brains and stronger skeletons

>>9651734
The point is he projects all of that crap onto the natural world which completely undermines his whole point. Nature is a good teacher but not if you are incapable as he was of listening, comprehending and most importantly knowing of which you cannot speak, you must not.

>>9651743
that's because they interbred with neanderthals

>>9651743
>larger brains
This has no real correlation to intelligence the brain of a blue whale is yuge
>stronger skeletons
This I believe because their diet was probably more healthy

Honestly I think you might be right. The sad truth is that history is written by the colonizers and all the great knowledge of tribal Europe is pretty much lost.

>>9651746
woah holy shit are you actually that stupid that you think he is literally talking about actual lambs and eagles? fucking kill yourself my dude, god damn

>>9651748
It did weaken the average man that is true and civilization in general is geared towards weakening the individual. You are correct that Christianity is the perfect slave morality. However, there is ok alternate history to compare this too and the ones who were taken in by this ruse were weak and gullible enough to be. And they are our ancestors.

>>9651748
>I believe some people gather regularly to report on their progress of their quest of making me feel miserable about what I experience. I call them the jews.

conspiracies are always cringey

>>9651760
I don't think he is but he is using them metaphorically and that is still anthropomorphism and it is still idiotic if he is trying to make nature the model for a new set of values and then he goes on to project human emotion onto animals in order to make nature more relatable he is thereby completely undermining his original intent. Hell if you think reading a book makes you stronger you are already lost.

>>9651758
>This has no real correlation to intelligence the brain of a blue whale is yuge
Brain size most definitely has a high correlation to intelligence, especially within species. Its a fact.

And they didnt have slightly larger brains, but significantly larger brains.
>>9651751
the non-neanderthals had larger brains too

>>9651767
There is no*

>>9651772
Yes, strawmaned conspiracies are cringey

>>9651779
damn dude u r truly stupid, go back to /v/ /pol/ or /b/ or where ever the fuck u came from

>>9651782
Why aren't blue whales writing hamlet?

>>9651758
>This I believe because their diet was probably more healthy

their bones were stronger because they had more muscle mass, which is still evident in europeans today as all the strongest people are from northern and central europe

>>9651790
it's the ratio of brain to body mass, fuck head

>>9651790
>somebody identifies a general trend
>HAHAHAH BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION!??! STATISTICS BTFO!

people like you need to be lined up and shot

>>9651797
Okay well even that would have to take into account the individual brain to the individual body mass unless you think that whites are a seperate species and in any case the difference between the white species and other Homo sapiens would be negligible. My point is your oversimplifying
>>9651791
Why do all the black kids I see playing basketball seemed jacked as hell even at like ten years old then?

>>9651801
>he draws conclusions from general trends
I would say kys but I don't think you could manage to figure out how.

>>9651807
Anyone who uses the phrase "that's a simple fact" is a charlatan or a fool.

>>9651810
>Why do all the black kids I see playing basketball seemed jacked as hell even at like ten years old then?
Because blacks develop faster and because they're muscles are weaker than asians/whites

Even asians do better at weight lifting than blacks

>white species and other Homo sapiens
Europeans: 1,441 cm3
Africans: 1,338 cm3

>>9651653
You can play that game with Nietzsche aswell

>It's not fair, why is slave morality prevalent in Europe? Why can't aristocratic values reign like in the days of the Romans? Stupid plebs! ;_;

>>9651823
Are you saying that you are inherently smarter than an African with a higher IQ than yours? And okay maybe we are better at lifting weights hell if l know..what does that prove and what does it say about us if we are so easily fooled by the Jews as you claim? Are the Jews the master race then?

>>9651653
Unlike all these people, Nietzsche has nothing to show for it. He wants master morality for himself but actually he is a little bitch who should just be happy about having slave morality.

>>9651827
Facts are meaningless out of the context of logical space. A fact is not an argument anyway. Besides that "people conspire" is just folksy anecdotal bullshit.

>>9651663
>Nietzsche thought he was a great bird of prey
Lmao, Nietzsche was a lamb.

>>9651831
>Are you saying that you are inherently smarter than an African with a higher IQ than yours?
No? I never even suggested that
>>9651831
> Are the Jews the master race then?

Jews are not a master race because master races as they have been historically known were openly acknowledged as superior and had "aristocratic" traits.

Arabs could be considered a master race, not Jews though, at least not in the traditional sesne.

>what does that prove and what does it say about us if we are so easily fooled by the Jews as you claim?
Whites werent "fooled" by Jews, until the post 1945 indoctrination everybody knew the ways of the Jews. Whites were to lazy and comfort obsessed to stop the Jews, they were not fooled though.

>>9651748
t. Weak man without Christianity. How has it served you, this age of abandonment?
Why aren't atheists Masters of morality? Why is the west so weak now compared to the Christian times?

>>9651856
Most atheists are morally christian

>>9651845
So if these parasites as you say bring us down the nature has dictated a different path to humanity. We are not in a position to argue it. I don't think you guys realize how marginal the "red pill" is. Anyway personally as a white Eurocentric type my plan is to move to a colder climate and simply develop a k-strategy type survival for my lineage. R-strategists are doomed to failure. Also I am a nazi sort of but more like a Thule group nazi than a hitlerite. I just don't believe in mass politics.

>>9651857
Strong independent thinkers, eh?
Oh well. What about you?

>>9651866
What about me?

>>9651869
How has it served you, this change?

>>9651874
>Christianity is exactly what led to the current state of the west
Christianity had failed to produce the current year for two millenia?

>>9651874
>his own people
Germans*, killed by the master morality.

Nietzsche criticism of Christianity actually brings down the rest of his philosophy, it reveals nothing more than he was theologically illiterate and rather unread compared to his peers.

>>9651883
I'm saying the idea of outbreeding the third world is impractical, that this is known as r-strategy in terms of survival which is what rats and roaches do; that it is also unrealistic to expect a better outcome than what happened in Germany in the 40's from political solutions if it were tried again today and they on the contrary I pursue a path where I have few children, enrich them financially, morally and intellectually so that they can compete and become dominant over others. My genetic lineage is all I will take responsibility for and I do not fill kinship with the masses of Europe any more than masses of detroit. Also refusing to call yourself something because of the negative ideas that have been a fixed to it is top cuck or taqqiya either way it's cowardly. If the Jews made an epithet for aryanism then all the better to use it--unless you are into mass politics and social acceptance in which case why bother fighting for anything.

>>9651908
That* feel* fucking autocorrect

>>9651908
Onces the system collapses, It will be practical to outbreed them like it was before.

Our more K selected ancestors has more than just a "few" kids.

All race conscious whites must pay minimal taxes and stop buying from large corporations, if we did that we'd win easily.

>>9651921
I agree and honestly things like this are happening they just aren't happening on twitter etc. I come on /lit/ in stead of /pol/ because I like discussing literature since literature is one of the gifts of European culture (and this is distinct from other parts of the world) but anyway, k selection today is augmented by the fact that competition is much greater and we aren't for the most part farmers.

>>9651921
>All race conscious whites must pay minimal taxes and stop buying from large corporations

how does not buying from large corporations help anything? should i buy everything from some korean owned grocer instead? is that helping the cause? if it is why are black neighborhoods so shitty then?

>>9651944
/pol/ is crap, a whole bunch of race mixing porn watching wannabe nazis

>k selection today is augmented by the fact that competition is much greater and we aren't for the most part farmers.
There is little competition for the good things in life, and whats wrong with being a farmer? All whites should become self sufficient and stop feeding the beast that wants to end us.

>>9651897
>Jewish Christianity
Anti-christian Christianity did what? You have to redefine Jewish for that to make sense.
>sent the west spiraling into the dark ages
Read a book.

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>>9651921
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>>9651767
Newfag to /lit/ here. You guys seem to be pretty Vargpilled. A breath of fresh air from all the Christcucks bashing him. Do you follow his videos and what do you think of his worldview?
Is living a simple and traditional life the only practical answer to the many problems we see in the West?

>>9651948
major corporations are part of the problem, they are an extension of our anti-white governments and are in bed with them. Most openly support "white genocide"/globalism/degeneracy with their ads, donations, products, etc. Even the very best corporations still pay massive taxes which go to our anti-white governments.

The ideal is to make most of what you need yourself and get the rest from other whites that you know personally by trading (no taxes on trading). Every white family CAN grow all their own food if they wanted to, they also COULD stop buying at least 75% of the corporate products that they buy. If they did just that we'd be half way towards victory.

Black neighborhoods are shitty because they're filled with blacks lol

>>9651967
>Is living a simple and traditional life the only practical answer to the many problems we see in the West?
Its the easiest and most obvious way to stop the problems... stop supporting the system.

You dont need to be "vargpilled" you just need to be a non-retard and to actually believe in the cause.

All "white nationalists" know that the corporations and governments want to destroy us, but so few actually take the steps to stop supporting them. Why? because they are either brain dead or they dont really care

>>9651979
so basically you're advocating white people turn themselves into subsistence farmers like some kind of fags in africa? are (((you))) sure you're really white? seems like you might be trying to trick me into impoverishing my family, no thanks

>>9651954
Nothing is wrong with being a farmer but one of the major strategies of control is to make farming too expensive and unlucrative for the average person. And by average I don't even mean poor i mean relatively well to do people. I make a decent salary and I am going to buy land but my farming will be mostly for supplementing my subsistence and I will definitely have to do some kind of skilled work to make ends meet (I am a Survey tech going to school for GIS engineering). I want my kids to be able to do the same so instead of making them do the labor intensive work of a farmer's sons I will give them plenty of free time to study and get some kind of skills that will help them succeed. Honestly I wish I could be a farmer but it's just not practical with Monsanto.
>>9651957
I just don't see most white people as being any different from most other races these days and in some ways they are worse because they are so self destructive and against life. Our relative prosperity has made us sodden with the comforts of life. I try to remember that the population of Europe has many times dwindled to very small numbers and revived. but what is the Jewish endgame? Any world they build on degeneracy and sub humans will descend into chaos and destroy them. Look at Brazil or Venezuela for example. Time is vast, it is in fact timeless and I believe the aristocratic view of time, of maintaining what is truly Human in us vs. descending to the level of beasts in order to triumph is best. I'm not making much sense and I plan on writing it all out soon. I wish there were books for this feeling but there are so few.

Fred is turbo fedora tipper, I can't believe people actually take him seriously.

He was a beta cuck incarnate; probably had a small penis too. His whole oeuvre is just a post-facto rationalization of him being a beta. If he wasn't autistic and had a big dick, his work wouldn't have existed.

>>9651991
I, too, wish to be free of porn and the surrounding manufactured opinions and world views.
Varg and the brainlets associated with him need to go. It's merely the denial of guilt altogether since post Imperial Europe, guilt has been the way to manipulate people.
>Oy vey muh holocaust
>muh crusades
>muh colonialism
One sided history doesn't work.

>>9651967
I actually really like Varg; he is not like the angsty bitter altright who rage against society just like their sjw counterparts; he has a sense of humor about him which I think is truly nietzschean. I also like his early music and some of his later stuff. Wish he would write a book.

>>9652007
>Yes, Goy, unless you pay thousands in taxes and buy our corporate products you are impoverished! Let us continue to genocide you by distracting you with meaningless comforts!

>>9652008
By farming I just mean enough for your own family. If you farm/raise your own food and already own your property how much money would you actually need? I cant imagine it being more than 1-2k a month.

>>9652024
>Wish he would write a book.
He wrote several

>>9652024
He is bitter, listening to any video of his shows this. I don't think he has dealt with Viking raids or his own crimes. I don't think he wants to. It's easier to blame 'others'.

>>9652029
what a retard

>>9652036
You wrote this post to make yourself feel better

>>9652029
Oh yeah it can be done and I think more people should do it. The only thing that fucks with me is that you and all your children will always have to pay tax on the land and the property on the land its crazy how much federalism fucked this country up. I detest slavery as an institution but in all other ways I wish the south would have won.

>>9652005
Varg doesn't have anything on Richard Spencer who a lot of people assume is a double agent.

>>9652041
you do realize christianity is a farmer's religion, which is why the urban jews didn't bother to convert? if you want to battle the jews turning yourself into a peasant hill billy isn't going to work, but then again i think (((you))) already know that

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>>9652024
He already has, pic related.
I'm waiting on the English translation of his wife's Le Secret De L'Ourse (The Secret of the She-Bear) which covers the very old European bear cult which has its origins in Neanderthal rituals - something like this probably has metaphysical importance in regards to European spirituality.

>>9652033
Hm I didn't realize that he's not widely distributed I suppose.
>>9652034
I don't think he is bitter at all he obviously trolls the hell out of his viewers and then he says something so interesting (like how Celtic Christianity was so different than mainline Christianity) and I become a little more knowledgeable. I think you're just jealous.

>>9651611

>What christian philosophers would provide a good foil to Nietzsche's criticism?

>lets talk about the jews

lmao has /pol/ ever been more transparent?

>>9652051
Ha okay just become a rootless cosmopolitan that will really make (((them))) mad lol if you don't realize that owning land is the major thing separating an aristocrat from a peasant you are brain dead. Or more likely in denial.

>>9652051
>christianity is a farmer's religion
Do you even know what "pagan" means? Cities have always been hotbeds of degeneracy, both 1000 yeas ago and today.

Trannies and niggers are rare in rural areas. White heaven.

>>9652051
>t. A brave keyboard warrior battling the Jews by paying them rent and working in their usurer economy

>>9652055
>I think you're just jealous
Of what?
One of his latest videos tells how he has no hope for the future. He refuses discussion. He ignores most of human and western history for his victimhood narrative.

>>9652076
Jealous that people listen to him and not you.

>>9652062
>owning land

yeah, if u have a bunch of peasants to work it for u, idiot

>>9651640
>>9651838
>>9652011
>>9651833
It consistently amuses me when people try to criticize Nietzsche with the own framework he glorified of strength and weakness. It's because they know it's too ridiculous to say "He's evil!", because obviously he's very purposeful about subverting morality and glorifying what people think of as evil.

So, failing that, they attack his strength of character and even physical strength, calling him weak, not realizing that they're using the same master morality he glorified.

Nietzsche corrupts even his haters and enemies.

>>9652073
This is the average "white nationalist".

>Work at Goldstienberg's company as wageslave
>Pay thousands in ((taxes))
>Watch porn produced by Schlomo Bigdigracemixterstienberger
>refuses to date white women cuz of muh mgtow
>shitpost on /pol/ about muh jews

First we hang the non-whites and race traitors, then we hang the poltards

>>9652052
I've heard rumours Varg's expertise on certain aspects of Scandinavia are actually in wide request in some academic/media circles, which is how he makes most of his money.

>>9652073

Never understood this. How can you attribute "rent" and and entire economy to one single ethnicity, especially in the context of something as subjective as rent? You do realize that there are whites, blacks, asians, indians, natives that ALL hold greedy sentiments? No one is exempt and there are people of all different ethnicity that will try and fuck you over because they want to make money off of you. This is not exclusive to a single group. If you cannot understand this, you will. Stop calling trash people "jews" and you might get somewhere with your points about the overarching actual problems that you're trying to address before stumbling over your own fucking stupidity into "hurr durr jews", which in the public eye makes you immediately disregarded.

>>9652091
This is why I don't go in for mass politics and the opinion economy.

>>9652084
I happen to hate lies and half truths. Has to do with my superhuman autism probably. Kek.

>>9652073
well then unplug the internet and head off to your Appalachian cabin buddy, you and your inbred family won't be missed

>>9652104
Whatever you say, I'm not even concerned with arguing I enjoy talking with like minded people in a relaxed setting and my life strategy is my own regardless of what others think. I don't really care about your opinion.

>>9652073
anti-semitism is the socialism of fools

>>9652122
>inbred
Needless ad hominem my gf and I are from distinct European haplogroups actually.

Also
>unplug the internet
y-you too

>>9652104
>"hurr durr jews", which in the public eye makes you immediately disregarded.
Only in the last 70 years. Before that the Jewish problem was widely discussed.

The Jewish problem is a big problem that europe faces, if you want to learn more please read about it its a very complicated subject and if you read shitposts about it online it might look crazy.

That being said, the BIGGEST problem for whites is the prioritization of wealth and comfort over blood and honor.

>>9652128
I'm not actually anti-Semitic I am anti-Judaic. Druze, Manichaeans,

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>>9652128
OY VEY IT'S NO USE THE GOYIM KNOW, SHUT IT DOWN!

>>9652141
Christians, etc are okay.

>>9652128
Geographical removal of jews is the sane thing to do. Doesn't mean that others are all good or dindu nuffins. It simply means that there is nothing good growing from the fig tree.

>>9652144
the point is you're basically a marxist but instead of whining about capitalism like a commie u blame it all on "da jooz" like if you replace "jews" with "capitalists" you might as well be writing a bunch of marxist crap

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>>9652166
Kek literally read any book made before WW2 mate. Jews have been a subversive group within European societies ever since Charlemagne decided to start taking usurous loans from them.

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>>9652185
Long before that. NT tells us of pharisees who proselytized in Rome, synagogues in Greece, buying Roman citizenship (not sold by jews) and them being the spawn of Satan, enemies of all mankind and Christianity. OT is likewise very anti-judaic.

Jews were always trouble, but they became a threat only after Napoleon.

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>>9652211
t.

>>9652216
Christianity is a weapon, if you are not willing to use it you can die like the samurai.

>>9652216
>can confirm everything stated
>must ignore it for narrative

>>9652086
You're begging the question. He clearly didn't live up to his system of philosophy. He didn't practice what he preached. How can you take somebody like this seriously?

>>9652250
For this reason I tend to take the analysis of these philosophers seriously, but not the conclusions.
Stirner is another one. To make a spook of spooks, to 'own everything' yet still sell it...

>>9652250
>He didn't practice what he preached.
Yes, he did.

>>9652265
I'm not convinced.

>>9652265
Hugging the horse invalidated his entire life's work.

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>>9651640
>I mean he ate so much fruit he shat himself and went mad over looking at a fucking horse.
Fucking bait if I have ever seen it. Good show old sport.

>>9652250
>He clearly didn't live up to his system of philosophy
You're naive. What does "living up to his system of philosophy" even mean to you?

Everyone has their own fashion of goodness and talent. The Overman is not any particular fashion, it is a particular spirit. Nietzsche also never claims to be the Overman. Instead, he is Zarathustra, the prophet of the Overman.

>>9652288
No, you have a retarded and superficial understanding of Nietzsche
>>9652283
nobody cares

>>9652394
He is not Zarathustra anymore than Homer was Achilles

>>9652288
Not only does that make no sense, since there is no reason why protecting the horse would be incompatible with his philosophy, but:

>On January 3, 1889, Nietzsche collapsed in a piazza in Turin. It is oft repeated that he saw a coach-driver beating his horse, threw his arms around the horse in tears, and collapsed; however, this is but another apocryphal legend that cannot be corroborated with absolute verity. Italian Nietzsche scholar Verrecchia investigated and disputed this tale, which was originally published in an Italian newspaper somewhat akin to the Daily News called Nuova Antologia. It was written on September 16, 1900, nearly one month after Nietzsche's death, which means eleven years after the supposed incident occurred, making the account rather dubious (Verrechia, A. ?Nietzsche's breakdown in Turin? in Harrison, T, ed. Nietzsche in Italy. (Saratoga: Stanford University Press, 1988), pp. 105-112). The journalist who wrote the article did not sign his name to it. It was an anonymous article.

>>9652551
Homer was not a philosopher, and in Nietzsche's books after writing Zarathustra he more or less just expands on what is said by Zarathustra. I don't recall him ever claiming to be Zarathustra either, but we can relate him more closely to him than to the Overman.

>>9651611
Why are you taking Nietzsche seriously? His philosophy is mostly just some explication of trendy thought stemming from primitive ideas on progress. Maybe if he lived longer he would have gotten more nuanced, but there's not a lot of value in his work as is.

>>9651611
>but I appreciate the church's aesthetic and the provision of a moral backbone and guidance for the people.
It hasn't done this in centuries.

>>9652104
The first thing to realize is that all of this shit boils down to teenagers congratulating themselves for being white. They're not interested in actually thinking.

>>9651748
You are absolutely right. The inbred, lead poisoned, assassination happy, massively corrupt, drunken degenerates known as the Roman Emperors were destroyed by a conspiracy of people proclaiming that "God wants us to be nice to each other."

>>9652652
>The inbred, lead poisoned, assassination happy, massively corrupt, drunken degenerates known as the Roman Emperors

Christian propaganda

>>9652128
Other way around.

>>9652563
It didn't happen that is a anecdote from Crime and Punishment.

>>9651611
Nietzsche's interpretation of abrahamic religions is pure undiluted autism fampai.

>>9651611
nigga this is in nietzsche's criticism what the fuck,
religion is wrong but you keep it so that the masses don't lose their shit.
like
have you read a complete work of his?

>>9652800
it did happen, the c+p image is of a horse being whipped to death while a father and his son watch, it's a dream segment.

the nietzsche thing is just a really poetic coincidence

since you guys are talking about Judaism I have a request.
are there any books on how to into subversion/deception/subterfuge

>Christianity is slave morality
>Christianity, even at the time of his writing, was divided into theologically and morally contradicting branches

His arguments that Christianity is a slave morality are actually very poor. To the point that it makes me think he never really read any Christian theology, and was just ripping on the surface of what was in his immediate vicinity. I mean, read catechism, and then tell me exactly how an ideology centered around prudence, self control, and self mastery is a fucking slave morality. I really do not get it.

>>9653623
>I really do not get it.

well then you're not that smart

>>9653632
Wonderfully insightful.

>I believe Nietzsche was correct about Judaism, Christianity and the slave morality, but I appreciate the church's aesthetic and the provision of a moral backbone and guidance for the people. Is there any reconciling these two views? What christian philosophers would provide a good foil to Nietzsche's criticism?

why are you reading nietsche without reading hegel. youre looking for hegel.

I love how white nationalist pseuds spout fascist bullshit and call it Nitzchean, he would both laugh at you and vomit at the same time.

Fascism is QUINTESSENTIAL slave morality, it's reactive to a perceived status quo, resents the powerful i.e. imaginary "anti-white" governments/corporations, borrows heavily from christian morality and eschatology i.e. purity/impurity dichotomy, and overall only mediocre people follow it, as it rewards shit people for completely accidental features like race i.e. UNTERMENSCH.

Bask in your mediocrity.

>>9652250
Hypocrisy doesn't make you wrong.

>>9653623
He was talking about core biblical teachings such as turning the other cheek, loving your neighbor as yourself, prayer, striving towards the good of the people, and the concept of faith, when he called it slave morality.