Actually good conservative literature that isn't /po/-tier?

>>9649086
Pic unrelated

>>9649086
The Waste Land

Graham Greene

>>9649086

Chesterton

Hobbes Leviathan

>>9649086
Russell Kirk

ivan bunin - cursed days

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Bastiat, Burke, Carlyle, Hayek, Schmidt, Scruton, Weber

>>9649448
i feel like such a nerd for getting most of these

>>9649448
Hayek and Weber weren't conservatives.

>>9649086
Flannery O'Connor
Gene Wolfe
Graham Greene
Dostoevsky
Chesterton
Hilaire Belloc
Aleksandr Solzenytsin
Vladimir Sorokin
R. A. Lafferty
Dante

>>9649454
xD

Ideas Have Consequences by Richard m weaver is a good one.

By what standards? Modern? nearly everybody before the 19th century.

>>9649475
what does xd stand for

>>9649454
Honestly I love each and every picture. Especially Frege and Hayek.

>>9649457
They bring an interesting, nuanced perspective that will expand your conservatism from the outside. I think Adorno's stances on the culture industry and on moral degeneracy are also valuable too.

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>>9649291
For further-right-than-conservative poetry check out Baudelaire and Ezra Pound, although you've probably already read them if you've browsed /lit/ for more than a day.

>>9649516
How was Baudelaire "further-right-than-conservative"
He had orgies and died of syphilis

>>9649552
That's a incredibly narrow lens you view politics through.

>>9649563
Seeing as how his poems aren't explicitly (or even implicitly) political I don't see how else you can judge a poet's political views

>>9649552
Speaking of which, why is it that almost all recent intellectuals are (to take a term from /pol/) degenerates? Why do they feel the compulsive need to suck dicks?

>muh sexual freedom
>muh don't need no morals
Literally causing the destruction of civilization.

>>9649552
Thats like saying Mishima wasn't right wing because he fucked dudes.

>>9649569
>his poems aren't explicitly (or even implicitly) political
Stop posting.

>>9649581
I've read Les Fleurs du Mal in french and couldn't find anything relating to an ideology

Seeing as how confident you are you obviously have irrefutable evidence don't you?

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>>9649574
>degenerate
>a term taken from /pol/

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What exactly are you looking for?

>>9649574
I have a theory that most the artistic geniuses we remember today are those who did things that others at the time didn't dare, thus challenging the status quo.
Those who did that had a complete disregard for the standards of the time, so their works were often scandalous and censored.
These same people would also not care for social norms so would also be "degenerates" like you said. However I think this only applies to certain artists.

>>9649574
High genetic intelligence comes with side effects, homosexuality, OCD, autism etc are just the most common because they share some genes or something.

>>9649482
Even most things in the 20th century would be considered conservative, especially if you follow any liberal propaganda.

>good
>isn't /pol/-tier
>Rand.jpg

Pick one

>>9649086
Hans Hermann-Hoppe.

I would recommend Mário Ferreira dos Santos, but his work wasn't translated to English, and it's hard to find even in Portuguese.
He is simply the greatest philosopher of the 20th century. His work is astonishingly large and rich, he has read and written about just every single philosopher and theme of philosophy EVER. And he was specialized in Scolastic philosophy, i.e. medieval philosophy. He is just fucking great.

>>9649086
>Ayn Rand
>conservative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpp5EXZZrgA

>>9649719
Similarly Pierre Boutang, It's simply unbelievable how read the guy was, he challenged people to arm wrestling while quoting Plato, Dante or Pound.

Plus he destroyed Deleuze and Guattari; even to this day "Apocalypse du désir" haunts the French post-structuralist scene.

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>>9649611
I'm not that anon but in La Fanfarlo he mentions how the poet (and main character of the story) became a socialist and shits on him briefly.
I don't think he was a right winger though, most of his scenes come from the realization of the abrupt difference between rich people and poor people, and I believe he's criticizing just by acknowledging.
I'm an ESL, so forgive me for my bad english.

>>9649777
>I don't think he was a right winger though
That isn't really up for debate, the guy was a reactionary.

>>9649788
How come? He's the very first modern poet, you can't go less reactionary than that.

Jefferson, Mises, and sprinkle in some Buckley

novels in general are conservative - its such a gentle, reflective medium

>>9649788
Don't make statements like without at least backing it up with some sort of arguement

>>9649777
I dont remember that poem, although it wouldn't surprise me that he does shit on a socialist.
He was a man who suffered a lot of hardship but was also very "degenerate" in a lot of ways, which I think left him with a disdain for a lot of things, especially politics.

I think he was more apolitical than anything else, frankly calling him a reactionary is idiotic.

>>9649611
>>9649777
Elliot wrote a small essay about how Baudelaire was basically the French Dante.

>>9649762
Mário Ferreira was just fucking great.
Without being Nietzchean, he was the first man to translate Nietzche to Portuguese. He made several translations from German, French, Latin, Greek, and since all the academy of philosophy in Brazil is marxist, they supressed his value and his works are barely published.

There is a story about him that is like this:
He was going to debate with a communist. Before the debate started, the communist made a presentation of his points, and his main ideas.
Then Mário said: I think Marxism has much stronger arguments than those you said. And then he talked like a true Marxist. All his students in the room thought he had became a communist, and everyone freaked.
When he finished, he refuted everything he had said.

>>9649833
>Don't make statements like without at least backing it up with some sort of arguement
He literally calls de Maistre his mentor.

Seriously you guys need to read more than just Flowers of Evil, try "My heart laid bare" from Intimate Journals, they reveal the spiritual and misogynist underpinnings of his work

>>9649864
Link because it can actually be hard to find on google if you dont know what your searching for: http://xtf.lib.virginia.edu/xtf/view?docId=2005_Q3_1/uvaBook/tei/z000000101.xml;chunk.id=d6;toc.depth=1;toc.id=;brand=default

>>9649833
>I dont remember that poem
Is not a poem of Fleurs du Mal, it's a short story by him. Look it up, it's a great read.

>>9649086

>ayn rand
>conservative

she hated conservatives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpp5EXZZrgA

the moon is a harsh mistress.

>>9649864
What's the title in french

>>9649086
>/po/-tier
>he doesn't like paper craft
PSEUD

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>>9649431
This is honestly the only real answer if you want to know classical conservatism and the traditionalist variety of it.

Russell Kirk compiled some books with essays from conservative thinkers from Burke to the 20th century, in addition to writing his own essays.

"A Conservative Mind" is what he's known for, and it traces the Anglo-American brand of conservatism from Burke onward.

I own pic related which features some of the thinkers from A Conservative Mind, it's worth reading if you want to get to know the foundations of conservative thought.

Nozick, Hayek, Friedman

Thomas Carlyle
Samuel Johnson
Edmund Burke
HL Mencken

>>9649086
Anything by Waugh

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>leftist philosophy is propaganda

The best book you could read on this topic is The Conscious of a Conservative by Barry Goldwater. It is short, concise, and brilliantly lays out the foundation of what today's modern conservative political movement is all about.

>>9649086
>Rand
>conservative
Pick one.

>>9649448
>Bastiat
>conservative
Pick one.

>Weber
>conservative
Pick one.

>>9649574
>I can't get laid
>therefore I take it out on the world

>>9649731
My morian!

>>9649864
What is style?

>>9649663

This, it's really astonishing how incredibly liberal the West has become in such a short time. Virtually any thinker in 1950 or before would be considered "far-right" today, even those who often advocated for socialist ideas like workers owning the means of production.

This idea that we should accept all immigrants, and that we shouldn't discriminate based on origin, is a radically new idea that would have been inconceivable a very short time ago. In 2017, you are a "centrist" if you believe that countries should not be able to preserve their demographics. How crazy is that?

I would argue we don't even have genuine politics anymore, because "politics" nowadays is mostly just about demographics; either trying to prevent other demographics from becoming too prevalent, or trying to get non-native/minority demographics to vote for your party.

>>9650719
>Virtually any thinker in 1950 or before would be considered "far-right" today
No, they would be considered a communist.

Looking more closely, everything is the same.
Sure the cars of today looks different and our politicians got a new haircut, but the way they try and manipulate groups through emotions, is pretty much identical. That the words are different, and the labels are claimed to mean different things doesn't change the fact that if you shuffle the spelling and syntax around, you pretty much end up with identical rhetorics.

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>>9649614
>/pol/ didn't white the dictionary

>>9649086
>Actually good conservative literature that isn't /po/-tier?
Nice loaded question/request already. This already shows that you aren't exactly willfully.

>>9650737
exactly honest in your request*

wtf I did sperg lel

>>9649086
Why would you ever want to be a conservative?
What is there to conserve?

>>9650771
>What is there to conserve?
Maybe he's a native American trying to conserve his reservation?

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Go forth my son

>>9650790
If someone who has never read anything political picks up schmitt the only thing he's going to get out of it is a headache.

>>9650792
>>If someone who has never read anything political
Good thing the list has Schmitt towards the end of it. Besides, Concept of Political (EE with Strauss commentary) isn't obscure, obfuscated, hard to get.

>>9650785
>>9650783
I'm thinking about unironically following this. Good idea?

>>9651089
Reading is always good and the pollacks journey is a half-decent chart. Just remember to read every book instead of picking a path at 2nd image.

What's wrong with Ayn Rand?

>>9651151
too alpha philosophy for socialists, nu-males and other beta specimen cuckolds of 4chan.

>>9651162
half of those words don't mean anything

>>9651162
t. beta

>>9649448
Liebniz should be Montaigne. Liebniz pic should be Spongebob and Patrick being happy while the city burns (best of all possible worlds).

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>>9650783
>not being a reactionary libertarian socialist
That's why /pol/ will always fail.

>>9651464
>reactionary libertarian socialist
>not Monarchist libertarian socialist

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>>9651470
Monarchism is a subset of reactionary thought. A reactionary polity can be monarchic but you can have a republic organised on reactionary principles as well.

But crude political order must be secondary for a reactionary. We need to dissolve the state into the Church (t. Dostoevsky).

>>9651483
>what if dolphins had lasers and could fly? wouldn't they enslave us all? #killalldolphins

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>>9651488
>implying the Russian Revolution didn't prove Dostoevsky right
Also nice digits, Kamerad.

>>9649852
fellow brazillian here
can you tell me more about this mario ferreira ? seems like a nice fella to look up to

>>9650719
James Kalb in The Tyranny of Liberalism and in Against Inclusiveness talks about this.Would recommend.

Also would recommend Christopher Lasch works who transitioned from a member of the Old Left to a conservative in his later works.He is a really unique thinker.

>>9649086

the Greeks, the Romans, Evola, Eliade, Guenon, Junger, Pound, Mishima, and absolutely NOT ayn rand

>>9649574
>>muh sexual freedom
>>muh don't need no morals
>Literally causing the destruction of civilization.

Consenting adults fucking isn't going to destroy whatever you think civilisation is.

Nikolai Berdyaev

>>9652262
The concept of individuals voluntarily engaging with each other as the sole basis for society is the death knell for civilization.

>>9649086

I'm seconding Herman-Hoppe from some guy above. Also, not right wing, but Piketty has mildly interesting views on the current state of capitalism. Nissim Taleb with his Antifragile stuff would also fit the right wing scheme I guess.

But honestly? There is no hope anymore for right wing thinking as far as "countering" left wing thinking goes. The Left has appropriated all dialectic and all forms of synthesis. They believe in both a thing and its negation with no weight in their conscience and have no qualms about calling you out for committing 'heresies' (e.g racism) whenever you deviate from their agenda. Go into this stuff knowing you will never be able to talk to anyone on the other side.

>>9649762
don't make me laugh

>>9652315
Maybe you faggots should stop thinking and start acting, you know? Being a little defeatist cunt is nice and all but I think it's time we thought about a more violent approach.

>>9649086

Conservative:
** Confucius Analects
*** Plato The Republic
** Aquinas Summa Theologica (Part II)
*** Burke Reflections on the Revolution in France
*** Hegel Philosophy of Right
** Schmitt The Concept of the Political
** Oakeshott On Being Conservative, On Human Conduct

Classical Liberal (aka Libertarian):
*** Locke Two Treatises of Government
*** Hobbes Leviathan
** Montesquieu The Spirit of the Laws (abridged)
** Kant Theory and Practise, Perpetual Peace
** Mill On Liberty, Utilitarianism
** Hayek The Constitution of Liberty
** Nozick Anarchy, State, and Utopia

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>>9649086
i have a hard time knowing what the word "conservative" even means anymore. is libertarian conservative? or is it wanting a king?

i guess they are all unified by not wanting marxism, especially not cultural marxism. does conservative just mean "anti-marixist? what is especially confusing to me is that "honor" and "duty" are considered conservative virtues but that seems to imply subjugation to some higher authority, which certainly seems at odds with libertarianism.

charts like >>9650783 only seem to reinforce my belief that conservative is a very vague term.

>>9649448
Someone please show off and explain the pics to a retard like me.

>>9653132
Frankly (as someone who has studied 17/20), I think the pictures speak for themselves.

Hoppe

Mises

Rothbard

Steven Pinker <-----Yes THIS GUY, destroys leftist social constructionist fallacies from an evolutionary psychology and neuroscience point of view.


Also, Ayn Rand was a cunt

>>9650283
>>leftist philosophy is propaganda
it literally is

>>9653145
Good for you. Please do go on. I'll just sit here listening.

Why do leftists still exist?

When will they all go away?

not everything is a social/economic construct
holy fuck

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reminder that it's a scientific fact that black people have on average smaller brains than white/asian people

what now lefties?

>>9653155
I disagree. I think that humans lack the ability to ever see reality as it is, we only see it through our limited senses and experiences. Therefore, literally everything is a construct. It doesn't make you a leftist to take this position.

>>9653163
You do realize that human intelligence has never been shown to correlate with brain size right?

>>9653180
Big brain = big smarts.
Its common sense you stupid cuck.

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>>9653200
Pretty sure this is just trolling now, but for all the people who earnestly believe this:

>>9653180

A Squirrels brain is smaller than a humans brain. Humans are smarter than squirrels. Apparently I'm breaking new ground since no correlation between brain size and intelligence has ever been made before now.

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>>9653163
>>9653200
>>9653217

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>>9649489
xtra dorky

What's wrong with Ayn Rand?

>>9653259

Nothing at all. Leftists hate her because they're misogynistic.

>>9649086
eric voegelin

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>>9653180
>You do realize that human intelligence has never been shown to correlate with brain size right?
AHAHHAHAHAHA

holy fuck

>>9653209
>>9653180
different animal brains are totally different
when speaking of human brains(which are much more similar and operate in the same way) the size of the brain has a lot to do with intelligence and behavior

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3415820/Animals-a.html

also: science has already proven that smaller brain size correlates with intelligence in humans

>>9653259
her philosophy made no sense

her economics was good though

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Be sure to check out the book section at your local home depot as well.

>>9653312
With incredulity like this, who needs arguments?

>>9653329
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcephaly

>>9650283
After Marx said that the purpose of philosophy wasn't to understand the world, but to change it, how can one read left-wing philosophy as anything but propaganda?

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>>9653350
Im about to lay some shit on you boi
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalencephaly

>>9653359
>After Marx said that the purpose of philosophy wasn't to understand the world, but to change it, how can one read left-wing philosophy as anything but propaganda?
this

marxism is the biggest cult in the world outside of organized religion

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>>9653146

>>9653359
Marx didnt hijack philosophy.
He hijacked politics,

Philosophy has alway been about striving to ask concise questions.

The answers objective or not are just the product of philosophy at work.

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>>9653363
>however, studies have shown that autism is the most prevalent association with the malformation of MEG
>people with really big brains are autistic savants and really intelligent
really makes you think

>>9653364
luckily stalin was no constantine and the slave revolt in morals didn't a succeed a second time

>>9653369
>he fell for the aspies are really secret geniuses meme
That's not what your mom meant when she said you were special, anon.

>>9653363
>>9653329
>>9653180
Why can't leftists just accept facts?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016028960200137X

Blacks have on average less grey matter and smaller brains than us.

Yes I realize there are exceptions like intellectuals like Thomas Sowell, that's why there is a bell curve.

It's really strange that leftists believe black violence worldwide is entirely cultural/social when countless other races don't do violent bullshit like this.

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>>9653373
>>he fell for the aspies are really secret geniuses meme
How is it a meme when it's true?

>>9653369
Why dont you read further where theres marked speech and motor deficiencies.
Not to mention the rate of epilepsy.

And savants are really fucking uncommon in the autistic community.

The just put savants up on a pedestal so autistic kids have an ideal to strive for and a purpose to pursue their interests.

For a person who claims alot of superficial correlation you know dick and shit about the anatomy and physiology of the head.

>>9653379
>when countless other races don't do violent bullshit like this
wtf are you even talking about
literally every single race on earth has committed horrific atrocities

>>9653382
>Why dont you read further where theres marked speech and motor deficiencies.
>Not to mention the rate of epilepsy.

Why do you people enjoy being trolled so hard?
Did you see the image I posted?
god damn

>>9653383
anywhere you have blacks you have sky high murder rate and aids rate, clearly they have a problem with impulse control

>>9653379
You are fucking stupid if you want to take bitch ass surveys as solid fact.

The words "average" is such a loaded fucking term in research and im so fucking sorry you havent realized it by now.

Please anon. Hold yourself to more rigirious standards of scientific candor.

>>9653383
>literally every single race on earth has committed horrific atrocities
yes but for those races, social pressure had enough of an effect to change epigentic factors to make them much more peaceful

black people on the other hand have probably had the largest experiments in "socially engineering to be civilized" and they have all failed miserably
look at detroit and baltimore etc

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>>9649473
good list

>>9653388
the white people who ate all of the harvest as soon as it was reaped starved to death in the winter, after thousands of years you start to learn to control yourself, meanwhile blacks still go nuts buying sugary diabetes food as soon as their ebt card refills

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>>9653388

>>9653390
>bitch ass surveys

>bitch ass

man are you a wigger or something?

>The words "average" is such a loaded fucking term in research
No, it's based on simple mathematics.
Why is this so complicated for you?

>Hold yourself to more rigirious standards of scientific candor.
Like Steven J Gould who got caught falsifying data for the leftist cause?

>>9653146
>>9653155
>>9653163
Stop shitting up my thread, /pol/. Thanks.

>>9649448
I really didn't get the Kant one.

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Scientists have discovered they can RELIABLY determine the race of an individual simply by doing an MRI on said person and looking at a scan on their brain
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00671-5

races are very different

we should embrace our uniqueness, not ignore it

>>9649086
>isn't /po/-tier?
>making a thousand cranes out of rand
genius

>>9653391
That just means that they have been the most oppressed people.
You're still making them do shit, but in manipulative ways.

Your ancestors condoned the buying and selling of humans becuase they saw opportunity.
Once things tuned violent they got rid of that opportunity.
And now with marketing and advertising and drugs
You still only look at them like an opportunity
An opportunity to make some dumb cash
An oppoutunity to oppress
An opportunity to ignore
An opportunity to see them as something other than human beings.
I weep at your stoic hypocracy.

A Deepness In the Sky
Starship Troopers
Dune
Foundation

>>9653419
>That just means that they have been the most oppressed people.
bullshit
why do other races in western countries who have been strongly oppressed eventually rise up over generations to be even MORE successful than whites?
look at asians and indians

blacks in america are given loads of welfare and shit, they do nothing with it

it's genetic, personality traits are mostly genetic/neuroscientific

fuck off idiot

>>9653419
>hypocracy

>>9653413
damn, science is fucking racist

>>9653430
>neuroscientific
Is that really the word you meant to use?

>>9653400
Its based on simple mathematics
And not simple phenomenology.
Considering we dont like to be treated like tally marks and theres so much other ways to understand data than through just the "average" which is a poor and decieving indicator of human nature anyways.

I like you how love to use loaded terms
Deflect from your short comings
And trust so much in numbers

I hope you can live where everything is just a robot.

Your candor continues to be whack ass shit.

I mean im really sorry if you idenify so much with your IQ score, your mbti, your chomosomes, but theres more to life than just those things.
Would make sense to try to examine things in more than just those terms.
But you are free to choose how you beliwve, who am i to stop you.

>>9653430
You are cherry picking
indians and asians have their "sub human" examples just as much as blacks.

You fuck off with all your bloody cognitive biases.

>>9653462
THEY DIDNT FUCKING MEASURE BRAIN SIZES YOU DOLT THEY MEASURED SKULL CIRCUMFERENCE.

Jesus fucking christ all goddam mighty please show these fuckers the truth.

>>9653400
>Like Steven J Gould who got caught falsifying data for the leftist cause?

>Dr. Lewis, the lead author, said that on checking the references for some of Dr. Gould’s accusations he found that Morton had not made the errors attributed to him. “Those elements of Gould’s work were surprising,” he said. “I can’t say if they were deliberate.”

>“I just didn’t trust Gould,” he said. “I had the feeling that his ideological stance was supreme. When the 1996 version of ‘The Mismeasure of Man’ came and he never even bothered to mention Michael’s study, I just felt he was a charlatan.”

damn /pol/ is right again

All you fuckers spouting old school phrenology seriously needs you to learn some A&P.
And i mean modern A&P not the shit that phrenology bases itself off of.

>>9653477
>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/14/science/14skull.html

read it and weep, blackie

>>9653477
>>9653484
>But now physical anthropologists at the University of Pennsylvania, which owns Morton’s collection, have remeasured the skulls, and in an article that does little to burnish Dr. Gould’s reputation as a scholar, they conclude that almost every detail of his analysis is wrong.

Waugh.

>>9653475
>>9653475
I know you are trolling.
But pol isnt right
They are right wing.

You guys need to quit looking at science through the lens of ideology.
You need to look at and engage with science.

This is all just a fluff piece.

External syrface area of the skull doesnt correlate with the size of the brain.
Genetics and environment detetmine skull shape
The rain is a fat sack of lard covered in a shit ton of veins floating in water covered in a casing with more vasculature which is then protected by the skull.

You take just a warm brain out of a skull it will just be an amorphous pile of fatty tissue.


Go make cherry cobbler with all this cherry picking at least itll taste better than this utter bullshit you guys are serving up currently.

>>9653413
You can also use MRI to reliably tell the emotions of a dead fish because MRI is bullshit.

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>>9653507
Right is Right

>>9653507
>http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00671-5

and what's your communist talking point for that one my dude? wouldn't want u to accidentally "cherry pick" what to reply to

>>9653484
while check new york times website notice ANOTHER TRUCK OF PEACE IN LONDON holy shit lol

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>>9653513
>everyone who disagrees with me is a communist!
you're like a cartoon character

>>9653484
Said that there is no link between intelligence and brain size

But i can post links too

https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_size#Cranial_capacity

>>9653527
oh cool didn't have an answer for that one yet? i'm sure your (((comrades))) will tell u what to think in their next newsletter/blogpost/whatever

>>9653551
silly goyim, we do everything by mind-link now

>>9653529
>https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter

you should try actually reading the shit u post my colored buddy

>The emergence of magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) has made it possible to compare brain sizes of living humans, and in the ongoing hunt for a physical metric of intelligence, several researchers eagerly sought to correlate MRI measures of brain volume with IQ. Ten years ago, a meta-analysis that examined the results from 26 imaging studies concluded that the correlation between IQ and brain volume is consistently in the 0.3-0.4 range. More recently, a genome-wide association study which included 20,000 human subjects was widely reported by the media to have discovered an “IQ gene.” According to their results, certain variations in the HMGA2 gene, which codes for a protein that helps regulate DNA transcription and cell growth, are correlated with increased intracranial volume as well as enhanced IQ.

>correlated with increased intracranial volume as well as enhanced IQ.

read it and weep

>>9653513
> , we reconstructed the cortical surfaces from all individuals’ T1-weighted scans

The key word here is "weighted"

> The variances explained by the models are 66% for ancestry in YRI, 55% for ancestry in CEU, 49% for ancestry in EA, and 47% for ancestry in NA

So its a good predictor if it works half the time. Gotcha


I mean have you read this article?
I mean i do doubt you have the scientific candor to understand this article, but you atleast read it right?

You didnt just copy paste the first link when googling scientific articles.

Or am i just trying to do your homework?

>>9653570
>You didnt just copy paste the first link when googling scientific articles.

no that was you when you floated this gem

>https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter

definitely gotta save that one for /pol/ good stuff bro thanks praise kek shadilary and all that

>>9653563
> Whales and elephants have much bigger brains than humans, and we have about the same brain-to-body mass ratio as mice. Since it would be against human nature to admit defeat, scientists have crafted a third measure of brain size called the encephalization quotient, which is the ratio of actual brain mass relative to the predicted brain mass for an animal’s size (based off the assumption that larger animals require slightly less brain matter relative to their size compared to very small animals). By this metric, at least, humans come out on top, with an EQ of 7.5 far surpassing the dolphin’s 5.3 and the mouse’s measly 0.5.

> , a closer look at the results of the gene-association study reveal that most of the relationship the authors found between HMGA2 gene variations and cranial size could be accounted for by the fact that the gene is also correlated with human height. Correlational studies have only established a weak to moderate linear relationship between brain size an intelligence, which is enough fuel to ensure that the brain size and intelligence hypothesis doesn’t burn out, but does little to explain the true basis of human cognitive capacity

>>9653575
If thats the only thing you can counter in my post you deserve to go back to pol.

Thats were everyone likes to be right.

>>9653592
>Crania of African ancestry tended to have a narrower cranial base, and those of Northern European ancestry had elongated occipital and frontal regions. Crania of East Asian ancestry had a high cranial vault, and crania of Native American ancestry were flatter.

the point is, different races have different brains, stop trying to erase our diversity, instead embrace it my friend!

>>9649448
>Adorno

holy kek

>>9653599
That each person has their own distinct organs that individuate ourselves, and we have our own unique "minds" sure.

But to say there is any predictive use for these things is dangerous in that can establish a self fullfilling prophecy like a bad idea placebo, and wrong ethically to a person who has more humanistic ideals.

>>9650146

leave lit please

>>9652279
That's not homosexuality, that's liberalism/rationalism.

>>9653707
>liberalism/rationalism
Those words aren't interchangeable.

>>9652279
I cant tell if you dumb or trolling.
Probably both.

Nicolas Gomez Davila.A Colombian Catholic Reactionary.Wrote only Aphorisms.

>>9653730
This. I bet that stupid commie doesn't even realize that faggots will bring about the apocalypse.

>>9651464
>being libertard
>ever

>>9653740
Communitarian =! Communist
The Greeks were communitarian. Their "selves" were socially embodied. American-style "right-wing" conservatism with muh freedums and muh capital is a historical distortion that is premised upon a liberal view of the self. Isn't the point of the right a reassertion of hierarchy and authority itself? Won't this necessarily impinge upon individual freedom?

>>9653730
I'm not trolling. Voluntary association is for relationships between civilizations, not within them. Maybe a plurality of civilizations is a good thing, so you get competition instead of stagnancy.

>>9653968
I don't think American conservatism has anything to do with a liberal view of the self, nor does it pretend to. Emancipation from corporate identity is not uniquely a liberal idea; liberalism and individualism are not the same, and individualism can be reconciled with traditionalism. Read Scruton, or better yet Hayek (yes, an economic liberal)

>>9654028
>>9653968
Disregard I'm a retard

>>9654028
No, liberalism and individualism are not the same. But liberalism is premised upon the concept of the individual. And yes you can "reconcile" individualism with traditionalism but you can't have Hobbes without Locke, Mill, and Rousseau. Because all of them reason from more or less the same premises. Whether man is a tabula rasa or violent by nature are minor quibbles. They view man as against man (or mediating their desires through social contracts or whatever) rather than society having a hierarchy for man where each knows their place. If a set of premises are widely accepted by society you will get guys arguing for the ramifications of it on either side.

>>9653612
Structure determines function my dude. Every other characteristic follows this deterministic logic. Why would mental properties, i.e. intelligence, be any different?

>>9649457
they are considered so now overton windows has moved leftward my dude

>>9653612
>But to say there is any predictive use for these things is dangerous in that can establish a self fullfilling prophecy like a bad idea placebo
This is true. But that different races may have different cognitive capacities is also true, disregarding this possibility because of "humanistic ideals" would be just stupid. While predictive potential of such statements would most certainly be negligible on individual level, it may come into play on societal level.

>>9650283
>Implying Foucalt wasn't a mentally ill AIDS addled faggot who wanted to undermine Western society at every turn

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>>9653509
>MRI is bullshit.
leftists just outright admit they hate science
it's hilarious

what a cult

>>9653509
>MRI is bullshit.
w-what?

Are you honestly saying this?
I guess when you get cancer and when doctors say you need an MRI you can tell them to fuck off because you're somehow magically smarter than them.

LOL

>>9649448
I'm stupid but the Spengler one looks like it's about /pol/'s loose interpretation (boundless space means white people are awesome!) of him than his actual writing.

bump :^)

>>9649086
The Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes will make sure you won't be a brainlet

>>9657435
Hobbes is essentially at his core liberalist.

>>9649833
Christ you're an uninformed imbecile. Please stop posting you pseud.

>>9652183
Mário Ferreira não é exatamente entry level. Você pode até ler as obras dele e conseguir extrair algo bom e até extraordinário, mas o certo mesmo seria ter ao menos um panorama geral da filosofia antes de ler o Mário. Leia Filosofia e Cosmovisão. Lógica e Dialética também é acessível.

>>9649516
Sorry but I dont actually read books.

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>>9653388
Makes me crave my brain waves desu

>>9653419
This is b8

>its another /leftypol/ gets anally devastated when they leave their hugbox thread

>>9649621
I really need to read this again. Such a good book. Any more good catholic sci-fi?

>>9658626
I love these threads.

>>9649501
>They bring an interesting, nuanced perspective that will expand your conservatism from the outside.
Bullshit! This is pure co-opting. Conservatism got its theory of society from liberalism.

>I think Adorno's stances on the culture industry and on moral degeneracy are also valuable too.
Are you studying cellular decay in a microscope? No? The shut the fuck up about degeneracy!

>>9649552
>How was Baudelaire "further-right-than-conservative"
>He had orgies and died of syphilis
Oh, that can be written off with the cuckholistic dualism "the spirit is strong but the flesh is weak" and vice versa.

>>9649614
Yes, that term is constantly shilled by /pol/yps.

>>9650734
>Simpsons
McKillYourself, bitte!

>>9650783
>redpill
Don't ruin it...

>>9651162
And to vehemently anti-collectivistic for the /pol/cucks. (Protip: He considered racism to be the worst form of collectivism.)

>>9651488
Or what if horses had opposable hooves and made us their sex slaves?

>>9658364
You say that but you've probably only read his poems in english

>>9659647
Stop, you're getting me all hot and bothered.

start with the greeks

>>9659634
>he

Ayn Rand is the best

t. Has a girlfriend

>hurr muh books I read must be ideological hugboxes and suck off my shallow identity
kys

bvumpyt

>>9649086
Ernst Junger
Eumeswil is the final redpill

>>9653364
>>9653359
>>9653150
>>9654375
So happy /lit/ isn't a marxist shit hole

>>9654375
>wanted to undermine Western society

maybe he wanted to bring back greek style homosex out from under the yoke of semitic desert spooks

>>9661708
so deep!

>>9649086
>Ayn Rand
>conservative
She's a liberal.


Most advice here has been shit.

Start with Joseph De Maistre and Edmund Burke.