She's here to stay, boys. No matter how much you cry about

>>9615924
I am actually happy for her, she makes it easier to spot plebeians

She already came and went, she's not "here to stay"
All she writes now are obnoxious tweets

>>9615939
>She already came and went
And yet her cultural impact still has a hufe influence on the world. Ask any person on the street about who Harry Potter is. Then ask them about DFW or Pynchon or whatever new age faggot you guys worship at the moment. Face it, a woman has BTFO'd this male dominated culture.

She needs to stop talking about politics.
I'm a big fan of the series though, to be honest. I read way too much HP fanfiction.

>>9615924
A lot of now-forgotten popular writers could have said the same in their day, except for the "changed literature forever" part, which is ridiculous.

>>9615986
How many fanfics does Harry Potter have? Compare it to the amount of fanfics of your favorite book and you'll know I'm right. People nowadays don't care about literature that doesn't speak to them, and rightfully so.

>>9615961
>[Political thing] is like Harry fighting Voldemort!
That's about three quarters of her tweets for the last two years

>>9615956
>her cultural impact still has a hufe influence on the world
That I can tell. Hufe indeed.

>>9615927
Is enjoying Harry Potter the literary equivalent of having a tattoo?

>>9616021
>When you don't have any argument whatsoever so you have to point out typos
Sad.

>>9615924
That's not literature.

>>9615924

What has Rowling changed, precisely?
Harry Potter is very well build, but in what way is that (or anything else she wrote) innovative?

She's the new Dickens. In 150 years the lit of 2167, the new pseuds,will claim that she's an incredible writer.

>>9616032
yes

>>9616128
Its a fucking kids book, it doesn't have to be innovative to be good. Its a good, poetic story and brings a lot of ancient concepts into a more modern setting. Its not that well written but as I say its a fucking kids book we don't exactly want intricate, complex prose.

>mfw someone quotes an anecdote out of Harry Potter like some Greek faggot in 400 BC referencing Homer
Harry Potter will build the foundation for the next generation of Western intellectualism.

>>9616032
I'd say they're more like having gauges

>>9616582

God, sometimes the answer on this board reach a level of retardation worthy of inbred rednecks...
I asked OP why she's innovative because he said Rowling changed the world of literature.
I agree with you that it's a kid book, and that it's not complex nor supposed to be to be deemed good. OP is the one saying that she changed the world of literature, I just asked why he thinks that.

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>>9615961
>Harry Potter
>Reads fan fiction
Get out, please

>>9616630
You are no less retarded for thinking that OP's somehow serious

>>9616114
>people who read, hate trump.
Wow what a find.

>>9616000
The internet is relatively new

>>9616582
Good prose doesn't have to be complex.

>>9616582
That doesn't mean you should write your books so badly, kids are not stupid, but you are making them more so. That's why all th HP fans are retarded

>>9615924
Meh, let the plebs have her. I don't understand them, they don't understand me, no harm no foul as long as they don't bother me.

I agree. I love her Harry Potter books. It is the ultimate kids' story. Magic, fun, good vs evil, romance, friendship, adventure, comfy settings, camaraderie. I still support Hitler and I don't want non-whites plaguing Western nations, but Harry Potter benefited me immensely.

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>>9616663
kek

>>9616733
Fucking kek

>>9615939

>she already came and went, she's not "here to stay"

As someone who likes Harry Potter, this is pretty much true. Rowling tried to branch out into other genres than YA fantasy, and nobody really cares about those books. The only "notable" things she's done since Deathly Hallows are approving someone else to write an awful fan-fiction tier play and writing the screenplay for Fantastic Beasts.

>>9615956

>Then ask them about DFW or Pynchon or whatever new age faggot you guys worship at the moment
>a woman has BTFO'd this male dominated culture

Ask a person on the street who Toni Morrison, Zadie Smith, or Joyce Carol Oates are. Face it, Stephen King has BTFO'd women writers of literary fiction.

>>9616719
What is actually bad about the writing anyway?

>>9617046

I dunno, I never actually read them. Actually i bet 95% of people in this thread never actually read the books either.

But she's seems a ridiculous person, so I'll continue bashing her and her writing.

>>9616630
Well, I'm sorry. I just assumed there was an accusation involved because I'm on this shithole. I will admit I get a little touchy about Harry Potter, I was absolutely enchanted by those books as a child.

>>9617056
>as a child
yeah

>>9617062
What's that even supposed to mean? Are you mocking a child's temperament? Because I don't know about your childhood but mine was one of the most magical periods of my life, so I will always respect that. My early childhood was at least; it all went down hill the more I came to understand what kind of world we live in. So let me have my hidden bliss because I fucking need it sometimes.

JK Rowling has really annoyed me with her tweets and stuff, but I can never give her too much crap because her book series got me into reading

>>9616733
im tempted to screencap this and send to her, feels lika good bait

>>9617085
>What's that even supposed to mean?
I think he was implying that you are still 'enchanted' with the books as an adult.

>>9616733
Top jej exact same feelings here.

>>9616114
Gotta love post-modernism

all the never-been-kissed (or published) pseuds gagging to stick their willies in that hot rich milf.

>kek

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>>9615924
She wrote a decent book series for children and teenagers which got turned into a decent movie series. Stop sucking her (feminine) dick. It's time to grow up and move on from low-brow pop culture to high-brow high culture.

And no. Trump is not like Lord Voldemort and the Republicans are not death eaters.

>>9617046
the fact that you haven't been answered tells a lot. /lit/ is full of arrogant snobs who like to bandwagon and shit on things they've never even read.

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>>9616114
Is she, dare I say it, /their girl/?

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jk rowling is a neoliberal Zionist cunt who needs to get deep dicked by a proper man and not some beta liberal, bet she loves s&m

She reminds me of a character from kurt vonnegut's player piano


>"Of all the people on the north side of the river, Anita was the only one whose contempt for those in Homestead was laced with active hatred... If Paul were ever moved to be extremely cruel to her, the cruelest thing he could do... would be to point out to her why she hated [Homesteaders] as she did: if he hadn't married her, this was where she'd be, what she'd be."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel)

>>9615924
Shes a talented pulp writer sure but I've lost all respect for her the second she started using her books to push her agenda

Oh, a fun thing to tell harry potter fans is that the ministry of magic is an apartheid government

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Trump is the muggle who kicked down the hogwarts door and gave all the nerds wedgies to remind them they're not really wizards.

If we want to make harry potter analogies than trump is a muggle who found out wizards exist, told everyone, everyone thought he was crazy, he reveals them, then leads a revolt against the mangerlist wizard class who lived in their secret hidden walled off communities, and wins.

Bernie the squib tried telling people the truth but the wizards stopped him
The last thing potter said before Donald the muggle shotguns his face is we did it for your own good to maintain the status quo, then harry realized malfoy was right, but it was too late.

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i'd make her my waifu and let her fantasise about her little speccy magic men as she succkked my black cock and took my length every which way.

Dear JK, if you want to know a real man, come to Kampala.

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>>9619154
I hate this board but I hate /pol/ even more.

>>9615924

SHes hot as f*ck damn

>>9616136

literally this

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The Final Redpill is that Voldemort is the good guy and the whole series is propaganda against He Who Must Not Be Named.

So basically

slytherin= bourgeoisie

Gryffindor and others = petit bourgeoisie

Muggles= proles

Also snape was a cuck beta provider, and james was an alpha male that fucked lilly

She's not even a bad writer. I couldn't stomach one HP page now, but I read it eagerly in pre-teens. It's fiction, it's for kids, but it still has to be well written to keep their interest. She knew what she was writing and she did it (I dare to say it) really well. I'll look at you in disgust if you're over 16 and still enjoy it tho.

>>9619159

Wisdom.

>>9619177

I nod respectfully towards you.

>>9619158
she would never fuck a nigger.
She is the neoliberal who wants every colored boy to become a star, just dont move in next door.

>>9616663

>reading harry potter past the age of 13

I'm sorry, but I can't take these people seriously. It's not even a particularly good book for children, nor is it especially original.

Liberals are capitalists that maintain a negative peace that affords them privileges over the lower class.

I bet in the event of a communist revolution she would take the side of the fascists.

>>9619126
>when you disagree with women you rape them
Definitely our girl.

>>9615956

You sound like a dumb old woman

dumbledores gay

can you handle that, bigots?

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>>9616001

>>9619050
kek. answering to yourself.
How did you discover 4chan? on some news site writing about ao /pol/ helped trump?

>>9619198
Its am immediate giveaway that they've never read anything else. It's a little pathetic, but at least they know it is, deep down.

>Blonde
>Billionaire
>Obsessive use of Twitter
>Feels the need to police the world on her views in political and global affairs despite not being officially educated or groomed in both

Does JK Rowling remind you of anyone?

havent you earned a house yet writing these bait threads?

>>9617085
If you read big-boy books adulthood could be just as enchanting. If you're any older than 14, you should have realized by now that it was only popular among children and brainlets for a reason.

>>9617046
Seriously? Even her dialogue tags make me cringe. I know it makes you feel better to try and call out people for not detailing for you just how and why they're shitty, but the fact is that they've been absolutely torn apart, critically, countless times. In fact, I've seen more valid criticisms than I have seen valid reasons for thinking they're good. All i get when I ask people to explain why, they immediately resort to "Butuh childhood and nostalgia!"

Harry Potter was fun and all, but I can name three female "genre fiction" authors who are far better than her, off the top of my head.

Ursula Le Guin, NK Jemisin, and Mary Shelley.

>>9619198
how would somebody at 13 even know what is original content and what is derivative? they are necessarily ignorant.

LOGIC something that you lack.

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>>9620550

>>9620575
prove it, or stfu

>>9620982

JK Rowling is literally Trump

>>9615986
There is no way someone who sold 400 million books will be forgotten anytime soon.

>>9616136
Pretty much.

>>9617046
It's on the nose sometimes ... as expected given the target audience. Obviously her characters are simplistic too. The twist from the first book is still one of the best ever though.

>>9619009
>Trump is not like Lord Voldemort
Where did that shit even come from? They won power with similar methods but they have completely different goals. Besides, Voldemort is portrayed as intelligent, even most Trump-cucks would never use the word to describe their leader.

>>9621119
It's as simplistic as "both evil dictators"

>>9615924
>shitty old books
>shitty
Nice bait anon

>>9616036
>having too much intellect to understand that your typo is indicative of cultural dumbening

Huge

>>9622007
What the FUCK

i like the harry potter books

>>9622054
>women still use virgin as an insult
>get mad when they get called a slut
lol

>>9615927
She's the literary equivalent of Koons and Hirst.

>>9622068
>liking sex isn't bad
>the fact that nobody wants to fuck you is
Whether it's correct or not, it's not incoherent.

>>9621024
Sorry you get butthurt about HP, man. You'll grow out of it.

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>tfw I actually thought this franchise would slowly become forgotten
>now we have magical beasts and where to find them until at least the next five years

>>9622054
Jesus christ, is she 12?

>>9622112
No, she's just used to writing things that young children can understand and relate to.

>>9616000
Fanfics are relatively new, so it's too early to measure their long-term impact. Of course people care about literature these days; if they didn't, what is Rowling supposed to have changed? And look at any PW or New York Times bestseller list from 20, 30, 40 years ago. They're full of once very popular book that have since fallen to the wayside.

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>>9622581
>Fanfics are relatively new
...um, no, try again sweetie

>>9621829
It's more like "they're both evil." I bet many, if not most, Trump haters would support a dictator if said dictator catered to their narrow political views.

>>9622857
Oh wow people act politically according to their own self interests gee whillikers really activated my almonds there buddy.

It's almost like Hitler and Mussolini and Stalin and Mao all won because they promised things that benefited their constituents.

>>9622866
I'm glad you're on my level.

>>9615924
don't forget the greeks (unironically

>>9622872
I'm just in awe at the fact that people have to be fucking told this in [[[CURRENT YEAR]]].

And even more retarded is that people still try to argue against populism with "yeah but OTHER PEOPLE" without establishing a reason why the populist should give a fuck, and then get all bitchy and morally strung out when the argument fails to convince.

>>9615924 (OP)
>changed literature forever

No she hasn't. She has changed consumerist imitation of literature for as long as her particular style of child's storytelling stays relevant.

>>9615956
HAHAHAHA! I can't feel your bitterness. It's pathetic. Grow up woman.

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>>9620925

Ok, I'm going to let you in on a secret. Children don't choose their own reading material. Their parents and teachers choose books for them. Young teenagers might go to Barnes&Noble alone and pick something out for themselves, but when the Harry Potter books first came out in the 1990s they were marketed towards literal children, not "young adults." The parents and teachers ought to have had better taste.

Most children introduced to reading by Harry Potter never moved on to books written for adults, and this is largely the fault of educators. Students in their final years of high school are still being assigned YA novels in so-called "literature" classes. The average secondary school required reading is written at a difficulty level appropriate for ninth graders, and there's something incredibly sad and banal about that.

I guess I shouldn't be so harsh on people who still read harry potter, given that in their formative years they had such incompetent ninnies for teachers.

>>9622923
Wrong.

I chose the overwhelming majority of my reading material as a child, although, it did have to be approved by my parents.

I never finished this series. Got through book 5 and stopped completely. I only really enjoyed 1-3.

>>9619154
Semi-quality b8 post

>>9616000
there are so many classics, so many myths, so many works of art that speak to the everyman, throughout the ages...which contain in them the essence of regular life, of the most fundamental human experience that anyone can relate to and even learn something in the meanwhile

the fact that harry potter speaks to people now more than those better works of art do only says that people are dumber and can't absorb anything that is not a watered down childish story

you will find more lines in shakespeare and dante that speak to you, than you will in harry potter no matter how archetypal harry potter is, but of course, shakespeare requires actual taste and appreciation of art

>>9622974

define what actual taste and appreciation of art is compared to fake taste and appreciation of art

>>9622993
do you really need us to draw you a picture of a fucking fedora?

>>9619126
>Not my daughter, you bitch!
>HURR DURR WHORE IS BADDD
What a joke.

>>9622993
/lit/ everyone

>>9619126
Sadly, she's probably right about the last bit.

That "every woman who has dared express an opinion publicly has endured this kind of abuse at least once."

I think anyone who has browsed 4chan for any real length of time wouldn't find it difficult to believe.

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J.K. Rowling is a sellout whore who channelled boys from reading to video games because she favors whopping checks to lifelong readership. If she has any appreciation for the written word, she will immediately rescind the rights of all non-literary endeavors of the Harry Potter franchise and begin apologizing to all of the potential readers turned internet/video game addicts.

Watching and reading Harry Potter in my formative years, I idolized Draco because he's the best looking male character in the first three movies. He influenced me through my fondness for his looks. I learned how to be scared and doubtful of myself which I've only recently overcome.

They tell me that it's good for me, working out almost every day and watching what I eat, but I don't even care. Elliot Rodger, a guy molded by feminist media driven by creators like Rowling, came to me in a dream and told me to waste her with a sledgehammer and pocketknife. My 3rd grade teacher told my 9 year old self that girls are better than boys - I blame her for my misogyny. She castrated me on the edge of manhood; never recovered, still a virgin. Fuck feminism, and fuck Rowling.

the real question is: is she doomed to be some kind of crazy cat lady (albeit rich) or is some guy gonna dip his wick in that magic poucci?

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>tfw Fanfic Anon with an image of Daniel Radcliffe wearing a hat hasn't posted in ages
Harry Potter threads just aren't the same.

>>9617054
Literally everyone born between 1985 and 1995 in the civilized world read Harry Potter.

>>9623681
tl;dr

>>9620550
Two faces of the same coin.

The GreenLeft youth party here in the Netherlands had a Harry Potter themed convention this year. Fuck this bitch for ruining politics.

>>9622826
I mean fanfics that don't stand on their own as literature.

>>9615924
hi Joanne, you sexy MILF

>>9615956
The Beatles had "huge influence", doesn't mean that influence was fucking good

People read Harry Potter for the story, not the writing.
They just want to know what happens to their favourite characters.

The books were basically just teasers for the films. They might as well be reading a raw script.

Rowling thought-up a great universe, but she certainly wasn't, and isn't, a great writer.

>>9622923
Don't worry public schools are debating removing literature from the english curriculum in favor of technical writing.

>>9615924
>Rowling has changed literature forever.
Not all change is good, anon

>>9616032
harry potter is like tribal tattoo tier

>>9626567

That sounds unspeakably boring.

>>9616032
It's not a valid comparison m8, I mean, what happens when you spot someone with a Harry Potter tattoo? Tattoos are obviously worse, they're mere vehicles through which you publicize to the world your shitty, messed up and faux identity

>>9626567
If this is true I'd like to just go on ahead and have Western civilization destroyed, thanks. No more gradual decline, let's blow it all up right now.

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What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Rowling. I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.

But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now read only J.K. Rowling, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Rowling was what it took to make them pick up a book, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. "Harry Potter" will not lead our children on to Kipling's "Just So Stories" or his "Jungle Book." It will not lead them to Thurber's "Thirteen Clocks" or Kenneth Grahame's "Wind in the Willows" or Lewis Carroll's "Alice."

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

Our society and our literature and our culture are being dumbed down, and the causes are very complex. I'm 73 years old. In a lifetime of teaching English, I've seen the study of literature debased. There's very little authentic study of the humanities remaining. My research assistant came to me two years ago saying she'd been in a seminar in which the teacher spent two hours saying that Walt Whitman was a racist. This isn't even good nonsense. It's insufferable.

>>9627189
>they're mere vehicles through which you publicize to the world your shitty, messed up and faux identity
And also make damn sure that everyone knows you make less than 20K per year.

Money itself is not a big deal. Looking as if no-one would even consider paying you a middle class wage is something else.

>>9622007
Why is this even an image macro

Rowling is Christopher Nolan of literature. People may praise her work at the moment, but in the next 10-20 years it'll wither away until it's completely fallen into obscurity.

>>9615924
she didnt change literature.
shes definatly had a huge impact on pop culture, but not on literature and actually writing.

her stories and characters were what got her attention, not her sub par prose.

>>9627811
there was me thinking it was her milfy attitude and well-crafted sob story about being a single mum on the dole coming up with this crap to put food on the table for her kids.

oh well. so much for being edumacated

>>9627816
Yes, teenagers can really relate to that and force themselves through over a thousand pages out of sheer sympathetic spite.