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Plebeian confessions thread. This is the time where you repent

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Plebeian confessions thread. This is the time where you repent for being so shit and everyone else recoils in horror because of it all. C'mon, it's fun.
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bob dylan deserved the nobel prize for literature.

translations of poetry are good depending on the translator. you still get the image and depending on the translator also the rhythm of the original poem. just because it's not in italian it's not full of swirley whirley pizza mama mia.

books on writing are fine as long as it's not blatant self-help clickbait-esque trash like "YOUR NOVEL SUCKS 1001 REASONS WHY" etc.

Joseph Campbell is one dry guy, need a tall glass of water to read a quarter of his book

anyone writing screenplays and/or plays in microsoft word should just give up trying. nobody takes it seriously if you don't use finaldraft or celtx.
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I have never read a greek, roman, russian or french piece of literature.

My main source of literature is as follows: was there a movie adaptation? Yes? I'll see the movie and then read that book.
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>>9599216
this is me t b h
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Cracking the spine is fine.
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I really like the A Song of Ice and Fire series. I have a collector's and a pocket edition of every book, and I hope that fat lazy asshole don't die before finishing the sixth and seventh books.
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After reading Aristotle and Kant, I find Plato overwhelmingly childish and simple
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>>9599320
Agreed

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>>9599241
Just leave, what are you even doing here?
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>>9599341
He's making so much from royalties and book sales, he's so rich that all the money would probably give him a reason not to finish his next books. What's the point of motivating yourself to finish it when you're already set for life financially?
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>>9599216
I thought that the Iliad was about the siege of Troy, but. Only after I actually read the Iliad I realised the city is called Ilium and the region Troy.
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>>9599320
I don't intend to do it but a few of my books certainly are cracked. It's tough to avoid it when the book is as long as Don Quixote too.
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I didn't realise the Pequod was a ship until it sank. No regrets.
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>>9599364
Yeah, I know, that's probably why the Winds of Winter is still "in writing". Fucking lazy asshole.
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>>9599367
Other way round my man, the region is Ilium and the city is Troy.

Just like Spartans come from Lacedaemon, with Sparta being the civic centre. Which is why Spartans had the letter lambda, λ, on their shields.
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>>9599241
>>9599243
>>9599320
>>9599373
This place is filthy.
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Blood Meridian was hot garbage.
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>>9599373
What did you think it was?
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I've read Melville, Faulkner and James but Steinbeck is still my favourite American author.
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>>9599216
i feel extremely embarrassed reading in public

until now i've never found a book that i could really connect to and then read it many times and say its my favorite

if i read 5 poems of an author and they're bad, i completely discard him as a poet
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Apart from the obvious working related stuff (science and engineering) I can't stand anything that's not an Epic Fantasy series.
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Regular poetry (Epic Poems don't count) are useless and obsolete.

Poetry is only justified when you're trying to court a female.
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>>9599405
t b h they're all deserving of love and are a good reminder of why i love american literature so much.
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>>9599399
What makes you say that, anon?
>>9599428
I don't know, Shakespeare's sonnets are a great example of how expressive English can be. They're pretty inspiring really.
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>>9599436
>how expressive English can be

Too bad you'll never see how deep the rabbit hole really is.
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I can't discuss books in any meaningful way.
I don't know English grammar and I'm finding it difficult to learn.
I've only read 202 books.
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>>9599474
> only 202 books

More than most of us here, anon.
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>>9599447
oh ok
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I like these threads because they force me to confront the pack of retards who I'm actually writing towards when I make posts on /lit/, and it encourages me to leave this website for good.

90% of you need to either kill yourselves or start doing the work
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>>9599243
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I'll post a thread and if people don't respond quickly enough to it I'll end up doctoring a few of the first replies and then some of the replies to those replies.

At this point you can't confirm whether or not I'm one of the only people in this place.
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>>9599399
*moves closer to the mic*

"wrong"
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I don't think I'm able to really critically examine books. I enjoy reading, and I like to read about other people's opinions or analysis of them, but if you asked me what I thought, Id have to shrug and just say that I enjoyed it or I didn't.

Books are no different than tv/movies.video games for me. Fun escapism. I still read literary works, but I don't think I'm learning anything.
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I actually like the classic literature from school...

I can't seem to find a modern author that isn't cringy, self absorbed, or just willfully ignorant about thier subject.
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>>9599560
High school-core lit is actually pretty good and accessible too. It's why they teach it to attempt in engaging children to read more.
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>>9599373
What the fuck else could it be?
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I read Gene Wolfe, Philip K Dick, Arthur C Clarke, Isaac Asimov and Harlan Ellison but only when the Interstellar soundtrack is playing
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>>9599373
this one genuinely annoys me
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>>9599595
i genuinely know this feel
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>>9599216
I didn't realize that Ivan and Alyosha were brothers until 60% through.
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>>9599545
That's ok, anon. Not everyone has to be a scholar, literature can be entertainment.
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>>9599373
This is blasphemy.
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>>9599243
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I like Toni Morrison.
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>>9599560
when you say modern do you mean contemporary?
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>>9599660
cats are the fucking worst. i unironically believe anyone who likes cats is a fucking creep and they probably smell like piss
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>>9599664
Any recommendations, anon?
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>>9599671
they are good to combat rodents, but having them live inside with you is animal abuse desu
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>>9599532
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>>9599681
Beloved and Song of Solomon are her best.
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>>9599373
i don't understand how this can be possible
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>>9599705
Thanks, will check them out.
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Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Catch-22 and A Scanner Darkly are among my favorite books.
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I enjoy Stephen King and Neil Gayman novels
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>>9599343
You should check out David Krell's essay "Reading Plato after Nietzsche and Co."
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John Dies At The End was a good pulpy book.

So was Metro 2033.
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>>9599241
This sounds good.
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I once threw up in a book and shut it really tight and put it beside the bookshelf not sure what to do with it

it's been 7 weeks and i don't know if i should open it again, help
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>>9599660
the cat no like the banana
angery
cat no banana
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>>9599737
Which book is it?
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>>9599405
Steinbeck is very comfy
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>>9599772
Rupi Kaur's Milk & Honey
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>>9599216
In terms of depth and maybe even prose, The Stranger is GOAT.
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Are there even more drastic books that Peter Sotos ? Where youn girls are slowly tortured, raped and killed and/or gutted or left to rot in abandoned stations ? anyone ?
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>>9599216
Philosopher here. Just here to say, YOU DO NOT NEED TO START WITH THE GREEKS. The are not remotely relevant. Pure waste of time.
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tfw spend more time on 4chan than reading
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>>9599818
Where should I start?
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>>9599855
New living translation of the bible. get a firm grasp on religion. And then go straight to Hegel.
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>>9599560
Start with Franzen, you'll probably like him, anon.
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>>9599216
I dropped la commedia half way
The only classic I've read is Don Quixote
No greeks aside from a few plato dialogues
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>>9599855
Begin with the Byzantines
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>>9599866
>New living translation of the bible
What the fuck
I've read the KJV already, I think I'll stick to the Greeks after this shitty recommendation.
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>>9599818
BAIT OR PSEUD TARD?
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>>9599560
>I can't seem to find a modern author that isn't cringy, self absorbed, or just willfully ignorant about thier subject.

i can relate but check out Thomas Ligotti and Nick Land, they're the only modern writers who are really great.
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I thought Heart of a Dog was good, but not great. Will M&M be better?
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>>9599884
Worst advice i've ever read on /lit/
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>>9599668
Yes, my mistake
>>9599884
Thanks I'll check it out
>>9600025
Thanks, I'll check them out
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>>9599955
You should realize that you're reading an antiquated version. By all means, pollute your brain with an archaic language cluttered in purple prose.
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>>9599975
>BAIT OR PSEUD TARD?
Don't make me laugh pleb. I'll bet you can't give me 5 solid reasons that the Greeks are still relevant.
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I consider Dostoevsky to be a genuine slog to get through and I only read him for his themes. I can't stand his dialogue
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>>9600088
That's because you're a pleb who doesn't speak Russian. BTW, nice dubs, anon.
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>>9600080
only 1 need reason. literally everything coming out now is just a watered-down or re-imagined version of what they already did. But you're probably too fucking stupid to notice that you tryhard pseud.
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>>9600118
Typical regurgitated trashy meme response. "The Greeks already thought of it!" With that pathetic attitude, why even bother to continue on beyond the Greeks...Your mentality is inherently anti-intellectual.
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>>9600133
>why even bother to continue on beyond the Greeks
good question. mainly because people like to read the same shit over and over but just with a new skin on it. yes even you, son. you're not as smart or insightful as you think and neither are any of your favorite authors. so fuck off pseud
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atm i mainly read self help books and the stuff that was new and stuck has really made a difference, so i will continue reading them.
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>>9600046
You didn't like The Corrections?
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>>9600142
>mainly because people like to read the same shit over and over but just with a new skin on it.
In other words, you haven't read past the Greeks. Or perhaps, you haven't read the Greeks, nor their successors.
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Violent fantasies have ruined my life, and what hurts me most is the fact that I couldn't see it.

Maybe I'm autistic or something.
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>>9599233
>anyone writing screenplays and/or plays in microsoft word should just give up trying. nobody takes it seriously if you don't use finaldraft or celtx.
nice joke, except it's not funny
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I love the works of Bret Easton Ellis
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>>9600259
Hes not wrong m8
Though celtix is also microsoft word tier
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I have been reading Bram Stoker's Dracula for two months, still got a hundred pages left
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>>9600319
why should you use those programs if you've been used to microsoft word since childhood? I see no reason at all
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>>9599664
Me too.

And Ngugi wa thiong'o.
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>>9600334
Because final draft
A.) Automatically formats everything perfectly
B.) Is the industry standard,not just for writing,but for the sharing of .fdx documents for collaborative worn
C.) Every version of word post-2011 is trash (srry pure opinion on this one)

I work on House of Cards (nothing coll,not bragging I am the office bitch) and talk to the lower level writing department people all the time. They echo my sentiments. Its like trying to be an editor and not knowing how to use Avid.
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>>9600088
Terrible post
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>>9600259
It's true, mate. Save up for Final Draft. This is coming from a screenwriter who just sold his newest script for £20k.
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>>9600351
>>9599664
Not much of a confession when they're good authors.
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>I haven't finished the Iliad.
>I think of myself as someone who reads, but I play Diablo 2 instead of reading
>"I love writing" has been the cornerstone of my self-image since i was 11 (25 now), but I do it so rarely I probably don't actually love it. I refuse to deal with this because I don't really have any other hobbies and my life is empty enough as it is
>my not writing is a disappointment to my older brother. He doesn't say it, but I can tell. And I love my older brother
>I have spent the last six years getting a degree in history, but I don't actually know shit about history. I only did the bare minimum to get a passing degree, sometimes not even that. I have my final examination on Thursday and I've yet to open the books. I'm gonna pass anyway because of the shit system that lets people through
>I've got what, 30 000 euros worth of debt that I accumulated to indulge the notion of myself as intellectual when I've constantly been under-achieving since entering uni
>my only redeeming quality is that I'm pretty good at German in a country where not enough people speak German
>I haven't read even a fraction of my country's canon
>I didn't finish Anna Karenina
>I think The Idiot is utter shit, written only for the money

At least I grew out of Artemis Fowl pretty fast.
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>>9599818
t. analytic
Reminder that you could have avoided that whole justified true belief fiasco if you would have read Plato
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>>9599243
Oh god I'm the same way, fuck my life
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>>9599216
I prefer to read novels (especially horror novels) rather than classic literature. Most of the time the classics read so sluggishly and I lose interest.
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>>9599216
I unironically enjoyed The Hunger Games
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>>9599320
Sure, if you're 12. I'm an adult and worked to afford my nice new books, and I intend them to be nice still when I give them to my children.
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>write something halfway decent
>get over confident - writing goes to shit
>go through a period of self loathing
>write more and try to improve
>write something halfway decent
and the cycle goes on and on. If 1% of what I write is decent i'd be happy.
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>>9600899
Everyone has their pulp. As long as you're not one of those people who argue your pulp's merit against literary masters (people do this with King regularly), you're fine.
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>>9599216
I think causality and accountability are the greatest of all spooks. Shit literally happens.
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>>9600878
I actually love the Greeks. I was just shitposting earlier. Cheers, anon.
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>>9600932
fugg
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>>9600925
Jesus Christ, I can't stand Stephen King. Especially after he threw a hissy fit at the fact that Kubrick's Shining has infinitely superior writing to his own.
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>>9600943
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>>9600328
Do you even remember the beginning of the book?
>>9600713
I feel like you have greater problems than not liking an book that /lit/ likes, anon.
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>>9600925
Am I the only one who doesn't read any pulp at all? People always say they need pulp to relax between more demanding texts but I just can't stand the low quality
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I tell everyone that my main hobby is reading, and when they ask what I like to read, I tell them classic literature. The truth is, I don't understand half the shit I read. I am an absolute pleb at comprehension.
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>>9600328
Don't feel bad anon, I take a long time to finish books too. I have been reading The House On The Borderland for about a month now and Im only halfway through it, whats worse is that its a 150-page novella.
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I don't feel like I comprehend most difficult works that i read, at least not totally, but I come up with my own tenuous interpretations to act as though I do.
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>>9600968
Nah, recently I haven't been able to read anything pulpy, but there are books from my past that I still have a soft spot for (but won't revisit, since they're probably shit) and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to read some trashy shit. Still, I agree with you, I jump from dense tome to dense tome, and I can't take a "break" because, on comparison to what I've just put down, I won't be able to put up with it.
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>>9600977
Same, just don't be super pretentious and pretend that you're a literary genius and you'll be fine. Read because you love to read and for no other reason.
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>>9600968
Try to read some Neil Gaiman, he's pulpy as fuck but he is also super fucking talented when it comes to writing style.
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I only read classics I've been told to read because they'll supposedly make me smarter and weird fiction
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>>9601039
are you me
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>>9601044
I love the super descriptive style that weird fic authors use. Ligotti is my favorite author
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>>9601071
oh fuck I have been meaning to read his stuff, where should I start?
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>>9600994
I honestly don't like anything by Gaiman except his comics. I appreciate the effort to make a recommendation though
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>>9599243
I hate you.
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>>9599414
Martial says you can't make a good collection of poems without some bad.
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>>9600360
House of cards is terrible. Absolutely irredeemably bad. No merit whatsoever. You should be embarrassed to admit to any affiliation with that corrupt, artistically bankrupt cancer. Now get the fuck out.
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>>9601289
I mean its not Ibsen but there is far worse stuff masquerading as 'prestige drama' these days
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>>9599405
Why does nobody ever talk about Steinbeck, anyway?
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>>9599532
I check how many posters there are and figure out you're samefagging if you do it early.
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>>9601100
His comics are pretty great but how can anyone hate Coraline or American Gods?
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>>9600160
Not in the slightest.
Obviously not as bad as genre shit, but it was just so mediocre, which could be argued as being worse.
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>>9599320
Bad to worse, you're speaking in verse.
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>>9600968
you'll die one day. Don't read garbage unless you really want to. But fortunately there are plenty of relaxing novels that are also good/great
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>>9600313
No shame in this imo. You should check out Jay McInerney if you haven't yet.
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>>9599216
My Liberal arts degree has totally ruined me on reading for fun. Four years of shitty poetry about the plight of various minorities has made reading feel like a chore. Despite training to become an English teacher I doubt I'll ever fully recover.
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>>9600968
You're not alone in this - I have a friend who pretty much reads nothing but philosophy and the Russian masters. He's not pretentious about it, he just seems incapable of enjoying or finding interest in other things. That's to say that he's no poseur.

Personally, my go-to pulpy author is George MacDonald Fraser (especially the "Flashman" series). I'd be the first to admit his work isn't literature (shit, *he'd* agree with that), but it's damn good fun.
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>>9599216
I consider Ayn Rand's works poorly written, but logically sound, and worth reading.
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>>9600968
I know what you mean, anon. The closest to "pulp" I get to is Hemingway since it's a nice, easy and enjoyable read when I'm innawoods camping.
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>>9601863
>That description of Alfred getting lost in the woods as he can't seem to keep track of things in his mind while Enid is upstairs waiting for a response in the opening book.
>"mediocre" writing
Perhaps something by George R.R. Martin is more your style, anon. I've heard he's got "really gud stories!"
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I pretend to know about middle english poetry because I had to write a paper on that. It was mediocre and I barely passed. But I still talk about Langland, Chaucer, Pearl poet etc as if I'd read them. I can't even explain the iambic pentameter anymore.
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>>9599233
>translations of poetry are good depending on the translator. you still get the image and depending on the translator also the rhythm of the original poem. jus
Only when translated by other poets imo
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>>9599802
He isn't even that bad. He's made a name for himself with all that shock value stuff, but it's not like he invented being edgy.
If you've read Sotos you probably already know about Bataille, de Sade, Jim Goad, Masoch, Ballard, Gira, etc. Have you tried getting into Whitehouse's music? Pasolini, Terayama, Oshima, Urs Allemann, Shawn Wunjo are some names that come to mind, but that's robably not exactly what you're looking for, if you want graphic erotica I'd recommend looking into ASSTR rather than "real" literature, but if you want art, harsh noise and Japanese cinema are the way to go.
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>>9599721
I enjoyed John Dies at the End and sequel This Book is Full of Spiders. Both were fun.
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>>9599343
Looks like you Kant get no satisfaction
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>>9600713
Mach was Handwerkliches. Du bist offensichtlich kein Theoretiker.
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>>9599241
>My main source of literature is as follows: was there a movie adaptation? Yes? I'll see the movie and then read that book.
patirican tactic
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>>9600133
only liberals think that being intellectual is good
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>>9602441
Carlos!
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>>9599320
I read War and Peace in a paperback borrowed from the library, and I fucked it up. I feel really guilty for that.
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>>9599320
There is literally nothing wrong with this
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>>9600713
>>I haven't finished the Iliad.
>>I think of myself as someone who reads, but I play Diablo 2 instead of reading

>not listening to the audiobook while you grind
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I don't read books.
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>>9599216
>Plebeian confessions...
Everyone hates my writing. All my unpublished novels, novelettes, short stories are carefully edited just to gather dust, unread by human eyes (though NSA still reads it).

I eventually gave up and nowadays I write shitposts. It seems I'm very good at it. I get lots of response and suggestions on what to do with my life. Feels great!
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>>9599903
>The only classic I've read is Don Quixote.

More than enough.
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>>9600088
Not even Porfiri Petrovich?
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>>9602403
This guy is spot on. Listening to Merzbow and watching Funeral Parade of Roses, this shit goes hand in hand.
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>>9601289
It rakes in the cash and it's solid screenwriting structure. Blast it out of your ass.
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>>9600713
t b h Diablo 2 is fucking great. You can balance that with reading though.
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> tfw a writer
> live from home because not earning enough to buy my own place (t-thanks tory government)
> earn enough to buy things for the house, been published and won a few awards
> the only person in my family who supports it is my mother, everyone else thinks i'm just sitting at the computer for hours because i have nothing else to do and "when is he going to get a job, when is he going to get work experience, etc
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>>9599216
Poetry is dying only because poems has no function today.
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>>9602403
yeah thanks. I'm already into noise music stuff. Nicole 12 or Grunt are also great.Too bad Peter was fired from Whitehouse.
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>>9602918
No, average people never appreciated poetry. It was enjoyed by intellectuals exclusively, much like ballet is enjoyed by the pretentious and those who are genuinely passionate.

If you want to succeed as an artist, whether it be poetry or some other artform, you have to cater to the stupid masses and the genuinely passionate, and you do this by intertwining basic concepts and higher concepts together. The basic appeals to the masses and the higher appeals to the genuinely passionate.
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I read sci fi and general fantasy for pleasure, I slog through "classics" of "literature"
I tend to find myself looking at the page number as it goes by hoping I can finally finish a book instead of actually enjoying reading it
I read books so I can say I read them and not to read them
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>>9599216
Greek literature reads like the classical equivalent of superhero comics.
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>>9599320
I have only just learned that people get butthurt about this.
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>>9603004
You sound clueless m8. Homer was never appreciated? And what are about the troubadours? Have you seen their vidas? They were the pop singers of their time.
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>>9599721
>John Dies At The End was a good pulpy book.
I don't even consider that controversial.
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>>9603044
They're not technically poetry. Poetry is read on it's own, sometimes performed, if you mix it with other art-forms like music or drama then you have something totally different.

Maybe your initial statement would be more accurate if you said that plays were dying.
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>>9603134
Local Autist Redefines Poetry in Order to Win Internet Argument.
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>>9603146
Poetry - Literary work in which special intensity is given to the expression of feelings and ideas by the use of distinctive style and rhythm; poems collectively or as a genre of literature.

So where does live performance come into this?

And if we take poetry in its pure, literal sense then has it ever been popular among crowds other than intellectuals? You'll find the answer is no.
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>>9603156
>So where does live performance come into this?
Exactly. It doesn't. Live performance of poetry does not stop it being poetry.
This should be obvious, given poetry is literally older than writing itself.
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>>9603169
It doesn't stop it being poetry but it makes it a mixed art-form and therefore cannot just be named: poetry.

You don't have to agree, and if you don't agree you have contradicted yourself anyway in saying poetry is dead because by your definition poetry is live and well and more popular than it ever has been since almost every musical composition utilises poetry in both impressive and mundane ways.
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>>9603183
Oh yeh, I wasn't the guy who said that. You're still working with a different definition of poetry from the rest of society.
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I worked in a bookstore last year and once sold Finnegans Wake. The only time.

It was a girl in her early 20's, probably attending Berkeley.

After she bought and had her book, I told her it was impressive that she was reading that and best of luck to her.

She looked me in the eyes with no emotion, said it was not difficult at all, and walked out.
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>>9603199
She's a filthy liar. Is she one of us?
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>>9603192
The burden of proof is on you. Go ahead and prove to me pure poetry is anything but itself without any additional art-form.

That's like saying coffee and cola is still coffee. Its not, it's coffee-cola.
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>>9599719
Not Op, but where can I download said essay?
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I shitpost in every spiclit thread possible. I don't even have anything against their lit but by god they are huge faggots.
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>>9603210
> coffee-cola

is this even a thing or are you some cave person
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>>9603256
Your descent into AD-Hominems is a clear enough indicator you have nothing to say.
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>>9603020
I used to do this. Honestly you'd be better off just reading a synopsis online and pretending you read them. So long as you don't bring it up often, you shouldn't run into any problems.
Read for fun. Read for concepts and ideas that interest you. Don't read to fit in or look good.
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>>9603256
It's a thing. I tried it in France. Not as terrible as you might think.
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>>9603296
Is it a genuine flavour of coca-cola or is it something that hipster coffee shops have concocted? I'd be up for trying it as I like coffee and I like coca-cola but mixing the two sounds initially very absurd.
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>>9599216
I sometimes write contrived smut about self insert characters dominating or being dominated by women that are themselves stand-ins for women in my life. Predominantly co-workers a friends that have expressed even the barest interest in me. I then sell some of it online.
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>>9603307
It's an actual flavour. The French have all sorts of mad flavours I've never seen before. Orange, Coffee, Peach, Strawberry and few more I can't remember.
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>>9603324
That's actually pretty cool.
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>>9603210
Poetry is and has always been commonly sung and/or performed. You're using a seemingly ideosyncratic interpretation of what does and doesn't count as poetry that the rest of society doesn't use.
I mean, if you want to keep using your own private definitions of words, then go ahead. But using them to try to win arguments seems pointless to me.
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>>9603314
How much do you make selling erotica online? Is it through epublishing on Amazon? It seems to be one of the few ways you can really make money through online publishing.
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>>9603329
*idiosyncratic
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>>9603330
Yeah I do it through Amazon. I write them in word, convert them through calibre and then go through the normal process.
Across 70 stories, over 2 years, I've made around €3000. Mostly between 7-13 thousand words. By no means am I a big-timer. Those guys have hundreds of books and niches. My stuff goes all over the place, but is fairly tame. All consensual, non-magical, mostly in working situations. A quickie in the supply room. 2 people staying late to clean down a kitchen. The closest thing I have to a common factor or fetish is that the one of the characters is often already in a relationship.
If you want to make money in online erotica you have to pick a fetish, refine it and become "the [insert specific fetish] guy". And even then you can get screwed over because Amazon are always changing what they think S acceptable. So your fetish could get blacklisted if its decided that it treads too close to illegal sexual acts.
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>>9599621
This is bait.
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>>9603329
A poem sung or performed is still a poem, I never denied that. What I denied was the times that poetry takes the form of a dramatic play, or more relevant in today's time: as a song performed with music; we don't call that poetry we call it a dramatic play or a song, don't we?

That's hardly an idiosyncratic view, it is the view that is held by the entire world, to suggest that we primarily refer to songs and dramatic plays as poems is absurd.

What do you have to say for yourself?
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>>9603499
That's exactly the original post meant anon. Those things aren't poems anymore, but what exactly is a poem if not an amorphous thing? Expression of feelings and ideas? But that's with every medium, not only poetry!
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>>9603645
*exactly what
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>>9599216
i cant read books with no sex on int
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I will only read posts with images attached.
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>>9599373
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>>9603324
peach and strawberry cola sounds amazing

why don't they sell it over here
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Making plans to wander the coastline and read poetry with this girl all perfectly innocent but I just realised the idea was giving me half a chub.
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read 3/5 of Resurrection (Tolstoy), wrote all over a 117 year old print I can't be arsed to finish.

Couldn't finish Infinite Jest because I wanted to know every word. Might go back to it, the reading wasn't too hard, but my reading method at the time was deplorable.

I write partisan hack shit and emotional rants instead of scholastic-quality analysis and publish it as a 'zine so it's okay.

Thought I was retarded because it took me months at a time to get through philosophical texts, but every time I read science fiction I fucking fly through it at 100 pages + a day, in addition to writing.

I need a job that allows me to read and write exclusively, but I work a shit customer service job and only read/write when I have energy.

Keep thinking about applying to get a masters somewhere, but can't decide which one I want, so I'm wasting away at 26.
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>>9599560

Saunders
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