Do I really have to "start with the Greeks?" What if

Dude you've gotta read the Greeks first

>>9551339
Daily reminder that the majority of senpais on here didn't start with the greeks.

just rewind time and then start with the greeks u dumbass

>>9551444
>just rewind time
I can't. Any other options? Anything I can read to undo this mistake?

>>9551339
I mean no one starts reading the greeks at like age 10 when they are building their base knowledge in actual literature

It's more of like "start OVER with the Greeks," meaning when you're ready, you read Greek literature and build more off of that

>>9551523
Destroy all your memory with electroshock therapy and start again. Just don't forget to start with the Greeks.

>>9551704
>I mean no one starts reading the greeks at like age 10
You'd be surprised. Some start earlier.
That's part of the reason I'm a little confused. I don't even know how to pick a Greek to "start" with or which "direction" to go in.

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>>9551762
Oh, please

Very few 10 year olds are reading Homer and fully comprehending it. I think this chart is helpful for finding a place to start

>>9551773
Okay, but do the "Greeks" literally "stop" with Aristotle? If I wanted to "start" with the "last" of them, who would that be?

>>9551804
Probably Aristotle, but don't start with him, you won't have any context. The "start with the Greeks" thing is misunderstood and taken too literally by a lot of people. The idea isn’t to become a scholar of obscure Greek drama -- you really just need to understand what was influential. Like, if you read Homer, Plato, and Sophocles that's probably a good enough point to jump off from.

I'm just skimming through them desu, I'm reading the Illiad right now and I'm barely paying attention to it since I know what happens anyways.

>>9551840

dont overlook ovid, he is more important to literature than those others, plato is philosophy, aristotle is law

>>9551523
Unread everything you've ever read then start with the Greeks. Not that hard senpai.

>>9551875
>plato is philosophy, aristotle is law
Then what is Socrates?

>>9551875
Ovid was Roman

>>9551339
No. Starting with the greeks is a fucking meme. Drink a dozen 5-hour energy shots and read the dresden files backwards.

>>9551948

a literary device

>>9551804
once you finish that some would say "continue with the romans" and then with the bible and then branch off from there

>>9552007
And who devised it?

>>9552019
Yeah, but what would (You) say? Hypothetically.

>>9552038
Platon.

>>9552038
I would say that (You) should stop worrying so much about this shit and just read what (You) want

>>9552100
What did he devise?

>>9552114
Okay, but what I want is to "start" with the Greeks. Should I just pick "the best Greek" and "start" with "him?"
And why are we dancing like this around the question of whether "Socrates" was a "him" or an "it?"

>>9552160

in a society as conservative as athens, attributing his ideas to socrates allowed him to continue life without being endangering his family or career. plato was upper class rich nigga and socrates was some old dead pal he could deflect onto.

>>9551773
Is Fagles the trusted version of Homer?

Start with the greeks is a meme. It's a stupid answer to a stupid question.

>>9552308

hes the most modern and dramatic

>tfw I can't read anything good because I have to read Homer's dumb shit before anything else

>>9552334
and sophocles, and aeschylus, and ovid, and plutarch, and virgil, and...

>tfw spent 37 years studying history, but I didn't start with Herodotus, so I have to start over.

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>>9552019
don't know if you are still in this thread anon but do you have any "resume with the romans chart"? And if not, do you know if this one is legit?

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>>9553085
Not him, but here's some more recommendations. Also yeah I'd read more Cicero than that chart would have me, but altogether it's pretty solid.
The Jewish Wars might be optional depending on your interest though

>>9553403
thank you, do you think "The deeds of the divine augustus" is worth or can skip it? i only found one book that goes by that name on amazon (there isn't any in bookdepository) and only had 30 pages.

>>9551339
No one starts with the greeks unless prior to 'starting reading' they literally come here first and follow the meme.

Work Your Way Back to the Greeks

>>9551339
The real secret is to STOP with the Greeks. Modernity was a mistake.

the Greeks are always worth reading

>>9553441
I mostly agree with this, but the Christian canon is important as well. New Testament, Augustine, Dante, Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton. throw in Ovid so that you understand Shakespeare.

>>9551773
Bullshit chart, there's no reason to read any supplementary literature aside from Lattimore's introductions (this is true even if you aren't reading his translation - he was an insightful man).

>>9551804
Nope. There's still tons of Greek to be read after Aristotle. This is a good reference chart for both Greek and Latin authors: http://www.hup.harvard.edu/features/loeb/timeline.html