Last thread turned to shit quick so let's try this again

>>9549158
This board is for right-wingers, sweety

>>9549167

>being an ideologist

get out

Can you contextualise the phrase?

>>9549189
Read this
https://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/walter-benjamin-messianism-revolution-theses-history/

>>9549189
>>9549192
https://www.sfu.ca/~andrewf/CONCEPT2.html

I like this translation better

>>9549158
Marxists view all of history as pre-history; homogeneous empty time is the time of life under power/capital, who have been the continuous victors throughout all of history.

debord agrees with this but his analysis is more related to everyday experience (which benjamin covered as well, in other places)

>>9549317
What gives time under capitalism homogeneity and emptiness?

>>9549317
Or, in Debord's language, what about pseudo-cyclical time renders thinga like day and night homologous?

>>9549158
This essay essentially led me to make the leap from Marxism to Christianity sever years ago.

>>9549158

Are we talking time without space, or space without time?

It didn't turn to shit, you're just a fucking numbskull, bro.

>>9549771
See above links for context. It's ambiguous

>>9549158
I gave you quite a lengthy answer last time you posed the same question (assuming you were the OP of last Benjamin thread on here), so I won't repeat myself.

In any case, homogenous empty time seems in places for Benjamin seems to mean time as a 'container' for the accumulation of linear progress. I would point you towards theses 17 in on the concept of history, as well as the Addendum for clarifying it a bit.

I do like the idea of coupling Benjamin with Debord's idea of commodification of time in everyday life under capitalism though, I think they jive well with each other.

But please, /lit/ really isn't the proper place for a serious discussion on Benjamin. As we saw last time, these threads get quickly infested.

>>9549158
Also, time as empty/homogenous is false for Benjamin because every moment is filled with a constellation of meaning.

'History is the object of a construction whose place is formed not in homogenous and empty time, but in that which is fulfilled by the here-and-now'.

From the Addendum.
'Historicism contents itself with establishing a causal nexus of various moments of history. But no state of affairs is, as a cause, already a historical one. It becomes this, posthumously, through eventualities which may be separated from it by millennia. The historian who starts from this, ceases to permit the consequences of eventualities to run through the fingers like the beads of a rosary. He records [erfasst] the constellation in which his own epoch comes into contact with that of an earlier one. He thereby establishes a concept of the present as that of the here-and-now, in which splinters of messianic time are shot through.'