What book will help me stop watching porn? If I get on my laptop

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>>9511922

>>9511922
If you understand why you want to avoid it, you will. But if you cannot internalize why you want to avoid it, your efforts are futile.

>>9511922

Heh, let me tell ya something, kid:

You ain't seen shit yet. You think I'm out? I'll show you I wasn't even down. I'm a one man army, and I refuse to die.

>>9511954
Yeah I understand why I want to avoid it, to not waste time on it and gain the ability to hold an erection with in real life 3D women
I wish I could just throw my notebook and smartphone from my window but I need this garbage to be communicated and functional

>>9511962
What?

smoke heroin

>>9511982
I'm actually about to shoot up some, what should I read before it kicks?

>>9511967
If you really cared about not wasting time and women, you wouldn't.
Tell me why you would.

>>9512009
Why I would what?
And I never said I care about women, I want to be able to enjoy sex if I ever get the chance
I get where you are going, yeah, I actually don't care, but I don't feel like that's a good thing and want to change, somehow
Is like trying to climb up a mountain made of nothing

>>9512023
Why would you watch porn is what I meant.

Well, you've outlined your proposition. Why climb the mountain?

>>9512028
>Why would you watch porn is what I meant.
Because my body asks me to, I get into savage mode, can't control my dick
>Why climb the mountain?
To get to the top and enjoy the view I guess

>>9512038
What use is the top view if your current view is just fine?

>>9512048
It could be better, I've seen better views, but because of bad choices I'm kind off stuck now

>>9512028
>Why climb the mountain?
Read You Must Change your Life by Peter Sloterdijk.

>>9512052
The noncommittal tone reveals your lack of investment.
Either care so much that the thought is revolting, or just work on other activities. Porn is there as a sinkhole, a sinkhole we want to be in.

>>9512076
>The noncommittal tone reveals your lack of investment.
We already knew that, remember when I told you I don't actually care?
>Either care so much that the thought is revolting, or just work on other activities. Porn is there as a sinkhole, a sinkhole we want to be in.
Care to be more clear, doc?

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>>9511922

I dunno man, I'm struggling too, I haven't shot it in three weeks but every other day I look at something pornographic.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

I swear to you, as an anonymous stranger on the internet, on the other side of the world, I really do feel more energetic, confident and don't want to go back.

You do your own thing but don't be a faggot and join some support group.

>>9512104
Have you read the book? Is it any good?

My problem with resisting jerking off is twofold:

1: Masturbation is one of my only day-to-day moments of pleasure. I don't mean that I deeply enjoy it or anything, in fact the main reason I want to stop fapping is that I fucking hate it and it's depressing and dissatisfying.

But I have chronic depression, and every day is like an endless gray expanse of nothing. Even if it sucks, even if the consequences are worse than the payoff, I still crave an escape from the nothing. I need something visceral (sex, drugs, or fapping) to make me feel anything other than grayness. Drugs are life-destroying, sex is impossible for me, and so, there's fapping.

Resisting this means being okay with the grayness, basically. Not only the grayness, but the constant knowledge that there's a "At Least Feel Something for 15 minutes" button, always waiting to be pushed.

2: It physically hurts not to fap. It's not just a psychological urge. My balls hurt 24/7 if I don't fap. Does this go away after a while?

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>>9512009
IF YOU REALLY CARED THEN YOU WOULD

This is an argument I always hear from those with stable minds, healthy bodies, and good work ethic. It is a classic instance of the just world fallacy. I'm not saying it's not important to be disciplined (it is) or that it's not important to cultivate good habit (it is) or that it's not important to take responsibility (it is). I'm just saying that it's less about caring, and more about the sum of a person's internal and external resources.

>>9511922
Delta of Venus

>>9512140
>Does this go away after a while?
Are you stimulating and exposing yourself to sexual thoughts or images? I don't get blue balls at all

>>9512175
It's fucking impossible not to. I woke up from a dream about girls with morning wood, and then even if I resisted thinking about women with an iron will, the thought "Don't think about tits" ITSELF involved a brief brush against the concept "Tits" and I couldn't get rid of the morning wood for 20 minutes.

>>9512186
Note: The girls didn't have morning wood, I did

Though..

>>9512186
I know the feel about dreaming, I get sexual dreams if I am sleep deprived, drink alcohol or am exposed and think sexual things or whatever
It's hard but it is possible, you just have to disconnect from anything that stimulates your willy
Find ways to calm down, do other activities and put your sexual energy into something else

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Jerk off until you feel sick. Cum buckets, store them, increase your threshold to ever increasing standards of industry and production, find the most generic women, the most impersonal penetration and imagine yourself the guy in action. It's a dog eat dog world and it's us guys to see who has the biggest stick for them. Fuck yourself into a desert and then jack your way out of it, strangle your dick like the Roddy Pipers fight scene from They Live so it blisters and in your disgust and torment you'll fall into a trance from where you can actually just talk to attractive women without caring. Then smoke weed contrive a self-perception so twisted you'll only feel torment every time you try to watch porn again. The problem is myopia and whatever the solution may be it's not a quick fix, that's the whole point! Nothing is so simple and that's what masturbation institutes. Sounds like too much work? What's the matter, are your parents going to knock on the door? Unlearn that and you'll graduate to dkye pussy and drag queens then on.

move to somewhere shitty that you have a ton of roommates, i'm practically on some nofap shit cuz there's always somebody around, i get one, maybe two nuts a week if i'm lucky, which is actually a good amount, more than starts to have negative effects on your psychology, less than that and you become a walking horndog

Imagine everyone you know walking in on you simultaneously and laughing to each other, palms on face and arms crossed not sure whether to lecture you part-way petrified, part-way ambivalent because they've given up and turning in circles just slightly too mortified to leave you and your mom and dad are both there, all your ex-gfs are not asking them about what's going on in a racket like this and make sure to nut to a picture of yourself then the demons will leave.

Get a chastity cage and throw away the key.

>>9512246
Shut the fuck up you degenerate

Go on /soc/ and find a guy in his 30s totally fucked by now with his own sex dungeon, exchange emails, get to know his favorite models and send each other zips of your porn collections and share stories about women who've crossed you and find an irc of like minded guys like this, have them delegate to you a simple task like alphabetizing and get to know the ins and outs of the life and ask yourself if this is the logical extreme why not get out now and realize because you won't this will be what happen and consider it an opportunity to get to know yourself and in that spiritual quest itself break the resolve to break free.

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>>9512311
thanks for giving me the plot of my novel

>>9512000
>shoot up
>before it kicks
okay it's time to stop larping, faggot

>>9512425
you got me, only done oxi, doing real heroin is retarded

>>9511922
Big red son. This didnt work for me immediately but it has over time. I can now watch porn platonically once a week or even once every two weeks, when before hand I would pretty think about it all day long and pretty much lived for it. If you can just see how strange and unappealing it actually is just once, it'll be ruined for good. And don't say you already have because you wouldn't still be addicted if you did. Someone mentioned following this path to its next logical step. I do also suggest this because once I realized I wanted a jobud and was actively searching for one I realized how pathetic it was and was quickly cured thereafter.

>>9512460
i've wacked it to a lot of porn in my day but never got the "jack off bud" thing, i always thought they were just gay guys who where hoping the jacking off would turn into sucking etc. but maybe they're just dudes who start to see porn as a hobby and want to share with a bro? you're supposed to see porn like sex and want to share sex with a women, not get a bro to jack off to porn with, i think porn does fuck up people's minds man

>>9512460
>Big red son
holyshit didn't know this existed, narrated by the madman himself lmao

>>9512506
oh wait big red son is that shitty story about going to some porno convention? god that sucked

>>9512467
It does. It literally made me gay. I haven't had a gay thought since quitting. Weird shit.

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>jaking it

kek

>>9511922
Read or watch

Welcome to the NHK

>>9512157

>on totally redundant parallel development of the same basic technology

If one firm had a monopoly on a certain technology they would have no incentive to improve their product. The consumer is better served when there is more competition: they get better products at lower prices.

Look up hackbookeasypeasy. The book describes a PMO user perfectly.

>>9511943

>admitting you read a self-help book, even on an anonymous image board.

>>9513001
There is some absolute garbage out there, but they categorically aren't that bad. When you parse out all the platitudes about free will and truth, you can find some kernels of modern psychology + stoic philosophy that have helpful pragmatic applications, like making cognitive behavioral adjustments that could help you quit porn. Aurelius, Lao Tzu, and the Buddha have helped me better myself in ways I never thought possible, but those dudes also never had to face the ubiquitous access to millions of hours of HD fucking that you can enhance with weed, adderall, or your poison of choice.

>>9512460
>>9512311
I've been addicted and trying to quit for awhile, and I've been at the jo bud / chat channel phase for a few months. Just getting to this stage has really helped me quit. If you're actually an addict, take the behavior to its logical end like these anons said. Pudgy guys in their 30s, accelerating death in their computer chairs, pushing a dopamine button like rats in a cage. Really fucking sad man.